Conference 7.286::sports_91

Very please about seeing more of Gwen.  This should be good.

Tommy has quickly grown to be one of my favorites.  He has that
rough and gritty, yet knowledgable style that is so *him*....

And that elevator missed a beat again.  Who's going for ride *this*
time????


Bob, GREAT job on the summary.  Love the topic, love the title, and I 
like the way you worked in the SPORTS stuff.  I'd say you're Chevrolet's
Player of the Game....

'Saw

    That new associate (I think his name is Mike?) is pretty cute.  Of
    course, it's gonna be tough to fill Victor's shoes...
    

Thanks for the summary Bob - truely outstanding.  Did you really enter it at
2 AM ? - now that's dedication.

I agree that Gwen will become a favorite.  The one thing that did surprise me 
was that they did nothing with the Arnie-Roxy relationship.  I was rolling
lasted season when they fell through the ceiling.

=Bob=

    
    Lemme git this striaght: You geeks sat there watching some stoopid
    yuppie lawyer-worship soap opera instead a watching young Steve
    Avery's commanding pitching performance last night, right?
    
    And, if they cain shut down the "Just Ask RaKe" note for not being
    sports-related why is this one allowed?
    
    MrT

    > Lemme git this striaght: You geeks sat there watching some stoopid
    > yuppie lawyer-worship soap opera instead a watching young Steve
    > Avery's commanding pitching performance last night, right?
    
    Not me, compadre.  Priorites...
    
    Besides, I read in the paper that last night's episode was lame and to
    wait for next week's...  ;-)
    
    glenn
    

    	Hey MorT for once you and I agree.  Maybe somebody should tell
    those suits and ties who think a minimum of 15 runs per game is
    necessary to create excitement that a 1-0 game can be just as exciting
    as a slugfest marathon, or maybe even more so.
    
    				/Don

Slasher,

Whatta you think of the Tar Heels baseball team's chances? 

TTom

    I think by season's end, you'll see Ann and the new "guy" nanny giving
    the bed springs a workout. You heard it here 1st!
    
    

    I'm guessing child molester...

    Stuart and the new nanny.  
    
    ack 8^P

    Gwen and Benny
    
    REK

    Benny and
    Leland!!!
    
    JaKe
    

No,

    Benny and


	That big bohunka "waistline-challenged" lady lawyer.


    Gwen will be doin' the Wild-Thang with that GQ style geeky lawyer
    who represented the King of Porn....    

    
    Dan'l and all the women on the show.
    
    I gots my reputation to uphold (or is that hold up).
    
    	--dan'l

    --dan'l,
    
    You keep up at the pace you're going, you ain't going to have anything
    "up"!!
    
    (8^\/*
    
    JaKe
    

    Bennie and ...
    
    
    the Jets!

    
    re .18
    
    Hahaha!  I was thinking the same thing!
    
    

    Sooo... what happened last night?
    
    REK

 This will have to be a shorter "highlights" type of report rather than a
 fully detailed recap ... 
 
 Grace and Tommy continued with the Elsa Chandler murder case.   Tommy was
 very upset with Grace after she abandoned the insanity defense and chose
 to go with self-defense all the way.    Grace told him to take a hike and
 he did.   Leland talked him into rejoining Grace and they managed to put
 aside their differences and continue the case ... Grace's way.
 
 Elsa Chandler testified and there was some pretty brutal stuff that she
 recalled.   Her dead husband had forced her to play Russian Roulette and
 had sodomized her in her sleep.    The jury acquitted her and Grace won.  
 Tommy told her later that she had taken a huge risk and Grace admitted as
 such.    Something is still bothering her, though.
 
 Jonathan had a really interesting case.   Two brothers were in dispute
 over the deceased mother's estate.    Their mother had left her estate to
 her MIA husband, the boys' dad.   He had been shot down in Vietnam and
 years later declared KIA by the government.   The mother never believed it
 and kept pressing the government for more information.
 
 Jonathan defended the son who stood by the late mother.   The other son
 believed that the father was long since dead and that the estate should be
 split between the two of them.    Jonathan had a South Vietnamese refugee
 on the stand who testified that he had seen the boys' dad as late as 1986.  
 The judge ruled in Jonathan's client's favor and the estate went into a
 trust fund to help finance the continued search for their missing father.
 
 Susan Bloom offers Arnie a really wild opportunity.   One of her clients
 is a television news producer and they need a substitute lawyer to fill in
 on a special legal segment the local news broadcast.   Arnie weakly
 pretends not to be interested but Susan Bloom tells him he'll be great
 because the women will love him.   Arnie's weak protests fade away after
 he hears that.
 
 Later on, he's in the sack with Roxanne for a lunch time quickie and he
 insists again that he doesn't want to do the show.  Rox ain't buying it,
 though.
 
 Later on, Arnie does the show and flubs it badly.   Can't read his lines
 at the right pace, his earplug falls out, and he mistakenly tells a
 call-in listener that his insurance is worthless or something like that.  
 But he recovers when the female anchor feeds him some flirt lines on the
 air and he turns on all the famous Arnie charm.   Rox was doing the slow
 burn back at the office watching him, though.
 
 The producer wants him back, though, because about 200 women called in the
 station after Arnie's spot.   Looks like we'll see this angle repeated.
 
 This was mostly a courtroom show.   Lotsa issues out on the table.  The
 MIA case was very interesting.   Second week in a row that CJ was MIA,
 though.   I did see Amanda Donahoe on Arsenio the other night and she
 dropped hints that her character might be exploring some of the legal
 angles behind her sexual preferences, i.e., her bisexual feelings.   
 Here's hoping she isn't kept under wraps for too much longer.
 
 Douglas, Ann, Stuart, Leland, and the two new guys, Castroverti and
 Kittredge, were no-shows for the most part.  Susan Bloom has a solid lead
 in early Rookie Of The Year polls.   
 
 MVP is Grace right now but only because she's had the most screen time.  
 She's never been able to sustain an MVP pace over a full season before so
 I don't expect to see her keep it up this year, either.
 
 Bob Hunt
 
 P.S.   And, yes, I watched most of the Braves-Pirates Game 7, too.

    
 >>Later on, Arnie does the show and flubs it badly.   Can't read his lines
 >> at the right pace, his earplug falls out, and he mistakenly tells a
 >>call-in listener that his insurance is worthless or something like that.  
    
    Sort of reminds me of the "Victor Ehrlich" beginning as the medical
    "advisor" for the news on the old series, "St. Elsewhere".
    
 >>P.S.   And, yes, I watched most of the Braves-Pirates Game 7, too.
    
    I must admit, I got so disgusted with the lame performance the Pirates
    were putting in that I switched betwixt the NLCS and "Cheers" and later
    betwixt the NLCS and "LA LAW", returning to the NLCS only when the
    hapless Bucs were at bat.
    
    JaKe
    

I for one am glad Gwen is a regular.  I could watch her all night.

The best scene, for me, was the final scene between Grace and Tommy.
There was so much going on there you could cut it with a knife.

There's Tommy, who in one short seen was portrayed as a gutty, hardnosed,
rough-edged, lawyer, who was probably one of the very best the craft
has ever seen.

And then there was Grace.  Smart, proper, brilliant, but down-trodden
over her personal life.

I loved Tommy's line where he lists all the things she's good at, and
when he finishes he says "But it's not enough, is it?"

Heavy duty scene.



Arnie looks like he's gonna be his old self soon, but how will they
ever work it after he (inevitably) trashes Roxanne....


'Saw

Wasteline challeged, great!!

	Bob 

    How can Arnie do Rox?  8^P ech!
    
    They oughta bring back the Laker Girl Kusak was seeing.

>    They oughta bring back the Laker Girl Kusak was seeing.


Courtney Thorne-Smith....

Makes me tingle just to think about it.....

'Saw

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>>    They oughta bring back the Laker Girl Kusak was seeing.


>Courtney Thorne-Smith....

>Makes me tingle in my pants just to think about it.....

>'Saw


HAHAHAHAHA!!tm


 Sorry Saw, I just had to do it! 


REK

I said "Tingle" as in LoinalFire(tm),

NOT, tinkle, as in putting the loinalfire out.....


8^)

    
   >><<< Note 203.27 by CSC32::J_HERNANDEZ "So, you gonna keep me guessing?" >>>

   >> How can Arnie do Rox?  8^P ech!
    
    Maybe she took lessons from Honeysuckle Devine!!!
    
    
    (8^)*
    
    JaKe
    

    How can Rox do Arnie?
    

>    How can Rox do Arnie?

    Ick.  I was thinkin' the same thing.  But you gotta love his character...

    

    Anybody else getting real tired of the incessant unpleasantness of
    both Grace and Ann?   Geez, the two never crack a smile.  Neither
    does Tommy for that matter.  The show's really turning into a
    grim-fest.
    
    Pete

>
>    Anybody else getting real tired of the incessant unpleasantness of
>    both Grace and Ann?   Geez, the two never crack a smile.  Neither
>    does Tommy for that matter.  The show's really turning into a
>    grim-fest.
    
Tommy smiles.  In fact, he's one of my favorite characters in the show.

Meanwhile, Grace needs a laxative, and Ann, well, Ann needs to take a long
romantic vacation in the Carribean with Stuart, in a suite that has
a ceiling fan, a Stanley Garage Door Opener, a Gel Bed, a Love Tub, and
a other assorted accoutrements....


JMHO,
'Saw


PS  Watch for Tommy to have some steamy scenes with his ex Zoe....

 Good point, Pete.   That's one of the reasons I've been disappointed in
 CJ's absence so far.   It is still very early in the season but she's
 gotta get up to bat soon.   She was the brightest character on the entire
 show lasted season.
 
 One bright "non-grim" spot so far this year has been Susan Bloom.   Great
 character.  She has an early lead on Rookie Of The Year.   Another couple
 of great scenes and she just might lock it up.
 
 Grace is in a real sour mood and there's an air of mystery about the
 cause.   That'll have to be cleared up fairly soon.   Otherwise, she'll
 fade away into an afterthought after a while.
 
 Ann is digging herself deeper and deeper into the "neurotic wife and
 mommy" hole every time we see her.    She hasn't been the same since
 Stuart's coronary early lasted year.    She needs a vacation.
 
 Tommy was lasted year's runner-up in the Rookie Of The Year race and he
 still shows a lot of promise.   But he needs another hot case with
 "serious juice" like the wild "Hangin' Bitch" one he assisted Kuzak with
 late lasted year.  Otherwise, you're right ... he's just a grim idle suit.
 
 Bob Hunt

     	`Saw......  I gotta know....  Whats the Garage Door Opener for !?!
    
    		Big Game

       'Saw, you forgot the mirror on the ceiling so Stuart cain...
    Shave in bed.
                                  Denny

    
    >> 	`Saw......  I gotta know....  Whats the Garage Door Opener for !?!
    
    >>		Big Game
    
    I'm just taking a stab at it but I think it has something to do with a
    variation on the old "Chinese Basket Trick"!!!
    
    JaKe
    

You guys ever see "9 to 5"?

Use yer imaginations.....

    
    I don't know if this has been mentioned, or if anyone cares  8-), but
    the women who plays Zoe (sp?) is the daughter of DEC's Marty Hoffman,
    VP and General Council.  
    
    I thought it was kinda ironic that he's a lawyer, but she plays one on
    TV....
    
    
    Cath
    
    

    
>>You guys ever see "9 to 5"?
    
    Yeah, also saw a porno once titled "69 at 5".  Sorta take off like
    "Romancing the Bone" was to "Romancing the Stone".
    
    JaKe
    

    What the heck does this have to do with the Socal legal industry ?
    
    Big Game

 C'mon, Big Game, you cain't get very far complaining about junk in a
 junk note, now cain you ???
 
 For the record, the observation was made that Ann Kelsey has been looking
 a bit ragged lately and behaving even worse for that matter.   'Saw and I
 both agreed that she needs a vacation.
 
 'Saw described what kind of a vacation she needs ... one that would
 include a garage door opener ... which is an oblique reference to the
 movie "9 to 5" wherein Jane Fonda, Lily Tomlin and Dolly Parton strung up
 Dabney Coleman in a leather harness and steel chain gizmo attached to a
 garage door opener.
 
 It don't get much deeper than that, now does it ???
 
 Bob Hunt

Well, I for one was EXTREMELY disappointed last night.

I came home from a hellacious rugby practice, peeled off my sweaty clothes,
took a NICE HOT shower, and sat down on the couch to watch LA LAW.

Imagine my chagrin when I saw The Queen of Wrinkles and Spent Women
herself, Mary Tyler Moore, for some stupid show about women in comedy.

In utter, utter disgust I flipped the channel to HBO and caught a 
portion of the Kevin Meaney Comedy Special.   I was in hysterics.
The show was VERY bizarre, and I have to catch it from the beginning.
But above all it was funny.


Oh well.... Hope I get my LA LAW fix nexted week.....


'saw

    SPENT WOMEN.. NO WAY SAW,Mary tyler moore is one hell of strong women,
    great house wife to rob too :)
    
    
    hth
    
    dinz
    
    
    

    'Saw,
    
    As the game clearly showed itself to be onesided (bases loaded walks
    excepted), I flipped over to the Discovery channel.  They had a show 
    about all the neat tourist places to visit in Colorado.  Now normally
    I won't waste my time with shows like that BUT when the lady
    commentator mentioned that she was in LEDVILLE, I was glued......
    
    So there I was, sitting in the recliner, Keystone in hand and a bag of
    Ruffles in my lap looking at a gorgeous view from the cog railroad up
    Pikes Peak when the scene switched back to Ledville.  At that moment
    my wife entered the room, heard the word "Ledville" and said
    "Ledville???  Where the heck is that and why are you watching this
    show?"  There began a 20 minute explaination to her of some guy
    named Sid and his wife Gail and their "little adventure."
    
    "Oh" was her reply..... 
    
    So I'm waiting for them to do a little diddly on the Ledville 100
    
    and waiting.....
    
    and waiting.....
    
    BTW, I'm STILL waiting    :*(
    
    
    
    Oh yeah, Quiz Time:
    
    What is the name of the highest altitude Incorporated City in the
    United States?
    
    Sid, I dunno if you'l read this note but I gots to say, the State
    of Colorado has some of the most beautiful scenery I have ever seen in
    my life!  I'm jealous.
    
    Kev
    

America Coast to Coast.

I saw the title banner on my way by for HBO.


If you guys get a chance to catch this Kevin Meaney fellow, make sure
you're wearing your Depends......



'Saw

    
    >>Sid, I dunno if you'l read this note but I gots to say, the State
    >>of Colorado has some of the most beautiful scenery I have ever seen in
    >>my life!  I'm jealous.
    
    >>Kev
    
    Kev, I gots to agree with ya.  I just got back lasted Saturday from 4
    weeks in Colorado Springs.  Put tons of miles on the rental on the
    weekends "sightseeing".  Gots tons of BEEEEEEEEyutifull pictures, some
    of the enlarge and put on the wall quality.  Awesome place, just
    awesome.
    
    Re LA LAW, I'm sorta relieved to come in and read that it weren't on
    lasted night.  I was driving home from work at a little after midnight
    thinking of what I was going to watch when I got home, and it suddenly
    hit me that it had been Thursday and I forgot to set up the VCR to
    record my 2 fav-o-rite shows, Cheers and LA Law!!!  Got real pissed off
    and everything, then figured I could catch the Cheers on the reruns,
    and the LA Law report in here.
    
    Gotta get the brain back on regular track and start setting up the VCR
    Thursday nights.
    
    
    JaKe
    

    re: a few back
    
    Dinz-
    
    Why would you want to rob a housewife like MTM??
    
    Bruce

Well, Bob didn't put in his synopsis of the show, but I watched it.

The neatest part about the whole show for me was I noticed a name in the
guest star credit, Charles Levin, that was familiar to me.  

In 1976, at the Yale Rep theatre, I saw him play Thersites in the
production of Troilus and Cressida.  

I watched the show, and it turns out that the defense lawyer for the
tree-spiker was him.  

Kind of neat....

 I missed the first 15 minutes of lasted night's show so I don't have
 the entire picture ...
 
 From what I could gather ...
 
 Tommy and Zoe still own a piece of land together and they're trying
 to decide what to do with it.   At the end, Tommy walks into Zoe's
 place and discovers her there with Jonathan ...
 
 Ann really blew it in her tree-spiking case ... little by little
 through the trial she started to see the spiker's point of view and
 when it came time to deliver her closing arguments, she just about
 conceded that the logger she was defending was wrong but shouldn't be
 punished for it ... the jury put her out of her misery.    She's
 losing it big time.   This ain't the first time she's put her own
 feelings in front of her client's.
 
 I didn't pick up the CJ and her dad thing ... apparently he's an old
 out-of-work actor and booze hound and he's on her nerves.   She
 tossed him outta her house and he tried to apologize with a big
 flower arrangement the nexted day.
 
 Anybody else catch anything else ???
 
 Bob Hunt

    
>    Ol' Sourpuss Anne did give one heck of a closing arguement though. 
>    Didn't expect a jury to not give the poor guy any money however.  The
>    tree-spiker was quite the a___ole, wasn't he?
     
    Hawk, one thing you gotta understand about this show is that the
    jury will almost *always* do the irrational thing.  It's supposed
    to outrage the viewer about our legal system or something, I guess...
    
    glenn
    

	The only other story line started with Douglas in the hospital,
	and the police detective coming in and saying it was about time
	they had someone who could identify one of these gay-bashers.
	Douglas had been meeting with another lawyer, who was gay, in
	a gay bar when he was beaten up.  Douglas at first didn't want
	to testify because of the damage to his professional reputation
	if it were thought he was gay (Leland implied he thought it was
	a possibility), but in the end he decided to go through and testify
	at the preliminary hearing.

>  Was the ending what was supposed to be the big shocker?  It kind of
>    was, but then I said to myself, "So what?"  Hey, they're divorced
>    anyway, right?  BFD...
>    
>    Hawk.


But Hawk...this is (gasp) an interracial relationship. LA law i strying anything
to stir people up this season. They must realize that things are pretty down 
since the big 2 hunks left.

The story lines haven't been that great and the cases aren't much to get excited
about....Although I agree with what the Tree spikers are trying to do there has
to be a better way to accomplish it. If you ever want to see a total rape of
forest land just fly over Western washington....all you see are logging roads 
up the sides of the mountains and acres upon acres of clear cuts. 
It's disgusting...There isn't much the environmentalists can do about the 
mismanagement of the private forests (Weyrhauser owns millions of acres out here)
but hopefully they can stop the ravaging of the federally owned forests.....

It's disgusting how much raw wood we ship out of here to Japan. We are treating
ourselves like a 3rd world country to be exploited for our natural resources.   

I'll get off my soapbox now,

  Metz

    	Metz, have you turned into a granola eating environmental terrorist
    since you moved to the land of nuts and honey?  Say it ain't so...
    
    				/Don

>  Metz?  He thinks Northern Exposure is a good show...

It's the best show on Tv right now...Actually It's a close tie with the Simpsons.
Just ask BOSS, he'll tell ya...

>  	Metz, have you turned into a granola eating environmental terrorist
>    since you moved to the land of nuts and honey?  Say it ain't so...

I've always been a booster for the environmental causes. Heck I've got more
Sierra club, Save the xxxxx and other t-shirts than I know what to do with from
giving money or purchasing products from various environmental causes. This was
before I moved to the land of rain and nature....

 As far as the Granola goes...ugh..Nothing tastes better than a batch of trail
mix during a hike but you can keep the granola snacks as a supplement to your
work out video /Don....Isn't that how most of these Diet Centers make most of
their money? You have to buy their processed,packaged, dehydrated food at $10
per meal?

/Don's Diet Center with workout video....has a nice ring to it, eh?

Metz    

    
    	Yeah Walt, us Southerners sho is a bunch of idjits ain't we?
    
    	Claybroon

    
>>					If you ever want to see a total rape of
>>forest land just fly over Western washington....all you see are logging roads 
>>up the sides of the mountains and acres upon acres of clear cuts. 
    
    You'd probably get the same view that an insect gets flying over my
    head and viewing the massive solar panel.  Talk about "clear cuts"!!!
    
    (8^)*
    
    JaKe
    

    So what happened? I missded the last 20 minutes.

 This episode was entitled "'Spleen It To Her, Lucy" and had lots of
 interesting scenes and plot threads ...
 
 The new guy, Castroverti, got his first case.  He represented a woman
 who's spleen was removed by a doctor several years back.   The doctor, in
 the course of his research, discovered that her spleen had some special
 cells that he could use in a genetic engineering experiment to come up
 with some new cancer drugs.   The doc made a pile ($5 million) and the
 woman wants some of it.
 
 Castroverti won the case because he brought out in testimony that the doc
 had subjected the patient to unnecessary follow-on tests after his early
 research results started ringing his cash register bells.  The jury
 awarded her about half a million but she cut a deal with the doc for a
 $100 K less if he would agree to co-name the drug after both of them.  
 Interesting issue ... Genetic engineering is bold new frontier.
 
 Zoey, who is a much better Assistant DA than Grace ever was, has a really
 tough one.  She has to represent the state in its efforts to carry out an
 execution of a convicted psycho killer {qu'est-ce que ce ??? Fa-fa-fa-fa-}
 who has to be heavily drugged to keep from hurting himself or others.  The
 issue here is that a prisoner can not be executed if he does not fully
 understand his fate.    Under the drug, he doesn't have a clue.   Off the
 dope and he's a raving lunatic.   Zoey wins the case after we see the con
 give his dope-free but maddening testimony.   But she's real troubled by
 it ... capital punishment causes her a lot of anxiety.
 
 Also, Tommy came by to apologize to her for interrupting her and Jonathan
 at her place last week.  They both said "I love you" and looked very
 troubled by recent events.   You know, lasted year, Tommy was the new kid
 and they showed his cutthroat tactics ... this year, they've added a real
 human touch to him ... he's a good character ... a shark with a heart.
 
 Jonathan and Zoey are still seeing each other but this capital case ate
 her up so there's some tension there.  She mistakenly called him "Tommy"
 during one piece of a conversation.   Methinks she and Tommy are aiming
 towards a reunion.   They're one of those "star-crossed lovers" couples
 who are probably all wrong for each other but ... dammit ... nobody else
 even exists.
 
 Roxanne and Susan Bloom crossed swords.   Susan has been anything but a
 quiet little sublet tenant.   She's done all kinds of wild things like
 held high-profile star-studded press conferences, hogged the copy machine,
 filled the halls with cigarette smoke and so on.  
 
 Rox lays the law on her, Susan pretends to fall on her sword, but then
 regains control by baiting Rox with compliments on her upward climb from
 secretary to office mananger and then hooks her with a promise that
 they'll get together and look at her employment deal with the firm and see
 what she could do to improve it for her.   Rox is silent but you could see
 the wheels turning.
 
 Later on, Susan does it again but renting out the firm for a movie shoot. 
 Rox goes nuclear and lays the law down to the film crew.   Then, after
 Susan returns from a trip to Vancouver, blasts her again.   Susan
 responded with perhaps the speech of the year so far as she basically
 kicked butt back by telling Rox how she got to where she is by *not*
 playing by the rules ... at the end, with Rox silent but still correctly
 defiant, Susan agrees to "be a good girl" and once again says they have to
 get together to talk.   The seed here is that these two are going to forge
 a friendship by smoothing over each other's ruffled feathers.   Look for
 Rox to march into Douglas' office later this year demanding a new
 contract and look for Susan to continue her delightful antics.   She's far
 and away the best Rookie Of The Year candidate so far.
 
 Frank Kittredge, Bloom's tag-along associate, commits a major faux pas by
 reaming poor Benny for some lost or delayed documents.   Gwen, his No. 1
 enemy from the 1st episode, steps in between and rescues Benny.   Gwen
 really gives it to him later after Kittredge, the GQ coverboy, peevishly
 wonders out loud if she might not be attracted to him.    She responds
 with a nasty pledge to remain celibate if fate should happen to make him
 the last man on earth.   But coverboy gets the last word when he points
 out that he didn't ask her to sleep with him.   Gwen loses again and slams
 the desktop.   They'll be in the sack before March sweeps, you just wait.
 
 No real sign of Grace, Leland, Arnie, Douglas, or Stuart and Ann (thank
 God) ...
 
 Good episode ... Susan Bloom stole it.  A night for the New Kids all
 around.
 
 Bob Hunt

    
    	Bob,
    
    	Have you ever considered writing for the soaps?  Good stuff! :*)
    
    B.A.
    

Sorry, guys and dolls, I missed the lasted 15 minutes of the show lasted 
night ... I can run down all the little plot threads but someone else will 
have to fill in the blanks, okay ???   Actually, the eyelids came back up 
for the lasted minute or two so I just missed the verdicts and the other 
ending stuff ...

Anyway, Grace is debating whether or not to take a tough case ... A young 
mother with a bad past history of crack use and abuse towards her children 
had been given a sentencing option by a previous judge in an earlier 
criminal case ... the judge back then had allowed her to stay out of jail 
on parole if she agreed to a medical operation to insert one of those 
under-the-skin contraceptives to keep her from having any more children she 
might abuse.

This is a clear violation of her right to reproduce but it sure does 
prevent her from hurting any more kids so Grace is pretty confused by the 
choice.   Ann talks to her and convinces her to take it because they have 
to defend the law regardless of its possible effects.   So Grace takes it 
and there is a hearing in front of a judicial panel to decide whether or 
not the sentence should be revoked and a new one inserted instead.

Tommy has an interesting case, too.   An inner-city "project" had been a 
real war zone with all kinds of random shootings and armed violence.  But 
the Housing Authority confiscated all the guns and the death and injury 
rates went way down.   But one of the tenants wants his gun back and a 
spokesman for an NRA-like organization is bankrolling his legal fight to 
restore his right to bear arms.

Tommy's client is a woman who lost her daughter to a stray bullet and her 
testimony is pretty intense.   Tommy also has an Hispanic HUD 
representative on the stand who testifies that the violent crime rate is 
down in the project but the petty crimes are still going on.

The guy who wants his gun back is claiming that his rights are being 
violated because he's black and the NRA-type guy is right beside him the 
whole time.

Leland is the arbitrator between a soon-to-be-divorced couple who together 
train a movie star chimpanzee.  Leland takes temporary "custody" of the 
chimp while the two go off and fight it out.  So, of course, we see Leland 
in all kinds of comic interludes with Gerry the chimp.   Predictable chimp 
antics but he did scare the crap outta Benny by the copy machine.

Arnie and Rox are considering moving in with each other.   Rox pours out 
her confusions to Douglas who basically shrugs his shoulders and tells her 
to go for it if she wants to.   Arnie is seeing his shrink again and the 
shrink convinces Arnie that he has a fear of "permanence" since he's neve 
owned property before.   So, at the end, they're going to move in and Arnie 
tells her he loves her and they're doing the lip locking thang as the 
credits roll.

I dunno ... Arnie is in a slump.  I have nothing against Rox (that is, when 
she's not whining about something) but Arnie just isn't Arnold Becker 
unless he's on the prowl.   Maybe they're trying to tone down the 
blatantly promiscuous stuff but, to me, Arnie becomes just another divorce 
lawyer with a lotta problems unless he's wheelin' and dealin' 'neath the 
sheets.   When he's shakin' and bakin', he's on top of his game.

No real sign of CJ ... Disappointing.   Unless we see a real turnaround 
sometime soon, I'd say the sophomore slump has hit her.   Bummer.   No such 
worries for Tommy ... he's cracklin' right now.

If anyone could fill in the lasted 15 minutes of detail, I'd be grateful.

Bob Hunt 

    The "ex-druggie" won her case on being allowed to pro-create.
    
    The guy who sued the housing authority won his case on grounds that the
    housing auythority didn't get HUD's permission(or whoever they needed)
    before banning the firearms.  One twist though, the guy who sued to
    keep his gun stopped at a light whilst headed for court, bagan
    taunting(or being taunted by) some gang members, pulled his gun and one
    of the gang members shot him dead, so though he won, he lost his life.
    
    Was it me or did the whole episode lasted night seem weak?????
    
    JaKe
    

Since I only caught the lasted 15 minutes...(late night soccer game..outside..brrr)

The lady was allowed to pro-create then when Susan Dey went to her house she 
thought that she would be able to get her kids back also. Grace explained that
the judge ruled to remove the device but there was no way she would get her
kids back because she was an unfit mother...The lady wigged out and promised that
she would have more kids...

Jake explained the HUD and NRA case....

In The chimp case the LALAW writers went straight to the bible and ripped off
Solomon. Leleand sat both sides down and said that he was going to decide
because the chimp was freaked by the two different methods of training. The
wife said that the husband could have the chimp and the husband agreed, Leland
then awarded the chimp to the wife because she cared enough for it to let it go 
if it was in the chimps best interests....Leland didn't threaten to cut the
chimp in half....too bad...


Metz

"Badfellas" was the name of lasted night's episode and it referred to the 
dominant plot thread ... namely Frank Kittredge's defense of an organized 
crime figure suspected of murder.

Kittredge, as the free-lance associate brought into the firm with Susan 
Bloom, has agreed to represent Paulie "Paulie Veola" Veola, one of the most 
powerful mob bosses in So Cal.   Veola is suspected of murder of a fellow 
mobster and the new DA in town is after his sleazy hide.   Kittredge takes 
the case and the firm is immediately nervous about the short and long-range 
implications ... that is, if Kittredge wins, can he extract himself from 
the wiseguys and return to "normal" clients or will he be permanently 
hooked up with them and give the firm a bad rep in the legal circles.

The new DA, a pretty tough lady, wants the mob boss real bad and is giving 
our GQ coverboy a hard time about it.   She's denied plea bargains on all 
Kittredge's other cases and she's investigating Kittredge himself to see if 
his representation of Veola is on the square.    This worries the firm even 
more and Jonathan in particular as he has a special bone to pick with the 
DA's office after they roughed him up lasted year.   So Jonathan takes over 
Frank's other clients until he can wrap up the Veola case.

The DA's trial attorney uses the deceased's daughter, Carmella, as the 
chief witness.  She testifies that she hears her father's dying words that 
"Paulie" did it.   The circumstances surrounding the murder are kinda 
complex ... Paulie and the dead guy were mobsters together but the dead guy 
wanted to get into the cocaine biz and somehow he had gotten his daughter 
engaged to a Columbian coke boss.   Paulie, as the girl's Godfather, wasn't 
too thrilled about this and one disagreement led to another and then BLAM, 
the guy's dead.

So, the DA has a pretty solid case ... at least based on Veola's lousy rep 
and the daughter's testimony.   Also, an FBI guy testifies with a tape 
of a conversation involving Meola where he talks about "clipping" the 
guy.  So, Veola and his equally scuzzy consigliori lawyer start to put the 
squeeze on a now nervous Frank who starts to fear for his life should he 
lose the case.

Kittredge turns it around, though, with Jonathan's late night help when 
they analyze the tape again and discover that the daughter herself might be 
implicated in the murder.   They go through phone records and find out that 
she called and talked to her priest for *15* minutes while her dad was 
bleeding in the garage before she called for the ambulance.   She had also 
purchased a .38 shortly before the murder.

So Frank puts Carmella back on the stand and fries her ... all but getting 
her to admit that she had confessed her murder sin to her priest on the 
phone.   The jury comes back in with a real quick acquittal and Veola walks.  
At the end, Veola and the lawyer are in a parking lot and in place of 
Kittredge's Mustang is a brand spankin' shiny new Jag.    Frank insists 
that he likes his old 'stang a lot better and calmly walks off rather than 
drive their "gift".   It's the very first time Kittredge has shown any kind 
of a moral spine and he now looks *much* better for it.   Perhaps there's a 
bit of heart underneath the coverboy exterior.   We'll see ... this might 
be an interesting plot thread.   No doubt the DA will be back after Veola 
and it remains to be seen whether Kittredge can shake the mobsters out of 
his Rolodex for keeps.

The other case was Stuart's.  Once again, ol' Stu has the litigation itch 
and wants to take on a case that just about everyone else thinks is a 
big loser.   And it's a SPORTS case, too !!!   A group of Globetrotter 
wannabes called the "Hollywood Hoopsters" ended a contract arrangement with 
their "loser" team, a group of former college gals who just so happened to 
beat the Hoopsters in a recent game.   The Hoopsters didn't like that too 
much and canned the ladies.   The women want the contract enforced and 
Stuart is their man.

[Aside: Marques Johnson, the former Buck and Clipper, was one of the 
Hoopsters.]

Stuart wins in the end when he forces the men to admit that they 
chauvinistically laid off a little and let the women win and that *THEY* in 
fact had breached their own deal.   The two sides agreed to a new deal with 
new "rules".    Good job by Stuart.  Definitely a clutch win.   And he 
didn't even have to ask how much time was left.  :-) :-) :-)

Bob Hunt

Good recap Bob.  IMHO, Kittredge jumped past Susan Bloom in the ROY race
last night.

Mike

    Has the show gone downhill a bit or is it the fact that I'm watching it
    on tape at 2 am that makes it less exciting than it used to be.  I used
    to watch it Firday morning at about 10am instead of ~1 am when I get
    home from work.
    
    It jsut seems the show is missing something IMHO.
    
    JaKe
    

Could be, Mike, could be ...   

Kittredge was the centerpiece lasted night and that will score big points 
with the ROY judges come season's end.   But, in my opinion, Susan Bloom 
has the ability to light things up at a moment's notice.   She's the Vinnie 
Johnson "Microwave" of the show and that kind of spectacular impact still 
has her in the lead.   Barely ...   You're right ... when Kittredge showed 
some backbone lasted night, he got on the scoreboard.

As for the show in general, yes, I'd agree that this might be a 
"rebuilding" year.   With Kuzak and Sifuentes gone, some adjustments are 
inevitable.  So far Kittredge and Castroverti don't quite measure up but 
they should be given time.  You have to admit that Susan Bloom is 
*fresh* though.   They've never had someone that outrageous on the show 
with the possible exception of Rox's old flame, Dave Meyer, the mail-order 
king.

Ann and Grace are in big-time slumps.   I almost cringe when Ann's on the 
screen.  Lasted night, it was yoga.  Blech.  The Arnie and Rox thang is 
lukewarm in my opinion.  To be honest, she's whined so much and so hard 
over the years that she just doesn't stir the old libido for me.   Now, if 
Arnie started chasing Gwen again, that might spark things up a bit ... but 
I think they're setting things up for a "love-hate" tryst with Gwen and 
Kittredge.

Leland and Douglas have been background noise so far.  And CJ is almost 
invisible and that, to me, is the biggest disappointment so far this year.  
She's going to need some huge upcoming storylines if she wants a place on 
the "All-Law" team by the end of the year.

Tommy is in fine form ... in fact, I'd say he's improved over lasted year 
because his "good guy" side has blossomed nicely.  Zoey is kickin' butt and 
takin' names as the Assistant DA.   Jonathan is also doing well but needs 
more screen time.

Problem just might be that the cast numbers might actually be a little top 
heavy and no one is really getting a chance to stand out.   CJ is probably 
the top victim of this numbers game.

Bob Hunt 

I think the show also misses Abby.  She was young and attractive, and her 
character had a certain innocence about her (even though she was doing the 
sexual exploration thang).

Arnie is no longer the lovable-scumbag type, but it uncertain if he could have
pulled that off forever.  His thing with Rox is kinda cute, but they never 
matched the fall-throug-the-ceiling thang from last season.

They also miss the intensity that Michael and Victor brought to the show.  None 
of the new characters are as intense.  I'm also dissapointed in the lack of
time for CJ.  She was great at times.  And of course everyone knows that Gwen is
a major league babe.

=Bob=

Gwen is a MAJOR citizen of Babe-a-lon.

CJ might be getting so little air time because she might be involved
in other things too, like maybe she was filming a movie or something.

I dunno....


'Saw

    
    The show has sucked since last year.  Who was comparing it to Snots
    Landing??  That's closer to the mark, now.  NE is the show...

    Missed the last 15 minutes. What happened?
    

    IMHO, lasted night's LA LAW was the bested one yet this year.  Now,
    where's Bob Hunt whence you needs him???
    
    JaKe
    

>>    Missed the last 15 minutes. What happened?
    
Nothing.

    Some Southern vixen called into Arnie's TV show asking about "what if
    your boss seduced you and overworks you and now wants to fire you if
    you don't do his personal work for him."  Arnie said it sounded like
    his butt should be sued off.  He asked for more info and she said she
    worked for an attorney in town... after a while Arnie realized it was
    Gwen and Arnie told this woman to give this guy another chance.  Pretty
    funny...
    
    Grace won her case... that's all I remember...

At DECUS I was indeed.   But I still managed to find the time to see the 
latest episode of our favorite SoCal law firm.   Hell, being in SoCal at 
the time, I couldn't miss it ...

Yes, ol' Peckerhaid Arnie is being a jerk again.  Now he thinks that Gwen 
is his personal admin slave and he's cutting her zero slack.   She's way 
bogged down with her law school studies in addition to her regular work at 
Mackenzie Brackman but now Mr. Charm is busting her cajones (so to speak) 
because she ain't answering his fan mail fast enough.   Rox tries to cheer 
her up and tell her that she's totally safe and that Arnie is just being 
Arnie.

In another scene, again no doubt a portent of things to come, Gwen is seen 
poring over her law books and looks extremely frustrated by it all.   
Kittredge, her No. 1 antagonizer to date, swoops in and engages her in a 
spirited discussion on some legal liability issue.   Gwen squeezes off a 
couple of good retorts to Kittredge's obvious lead-ins and Gwen gets a new 
breath of confidence courtesy of Mr K.    These two will be in the sack by 
February sweeps, mark my word.   Dem loinal fires is a_buildin' up ...

Grace has an interesting case.  She's representing Dougie's sister who has 
a little boy with some serious handicaps ... cerebral palsy and some 
autistic traits.   The mom's case is that the Cal school system is 
obligated to pay for special ed at an expensive school.   The school system 
says not.    Grace wins the case by presenting evidence that the school 
system is keeping the boy locked in a former coat closet all day with a 
babysitter and also by putting a Logan School graduate with similar 
problems up on the stand.  The courageous young man has overcome his 
disabilities and is now working at the public library.    Good stuff.   
Grace is bouncing back a bit although her hair still looks like shredded 
wheat.

Susan Bloom had the other case ... one where an overweight man was suing a 
sidewalk vendor for selling him low-cal "health" shakes that were really 
600+ calorie bombs.   Susan's client, the vendor, was counter-suing the 
heavy guy for the damages he caused when he got rough with him and his cart.  
Susan made a great case in pointing out to the poor fellow that his weight 
problem belongs to no one but himself.   However, the opposition attorney 
(played by the actor who plays Cutlip, the great boot camp gym teacher on 
"The Wonders Years") made an equally good case by proving that the shake 
vendor was pretty much a sleazeball for selling the stuff like he did.   
The case ended in a "tie" with both sides winning their suits and the jury 
awarding damages of 5K apiece.

That about does it ... Oh, yeah, the final scene was described in the 
previous reply ... Gwen indeed dialed up Mr Hardass on his Legal Eagle show 
and used an alias name to describe her plight.   Once Arnie realized who it 
was, he backpedaled faster than an UNC basketball fan.    Good stuff ...  
We might need a new category for someone like Gwen.   A former spot player 
in previous seasons who gets a fresh spot in the starting lineup ... Benny 
ruled this category for a few years but maybe it's time the torch 
gets passed to Gwen.

Bob Hunt 

Yeah, the Christmas episode is always a good one.    Maybe we will see Gwen 
and Kittredge a_doin' the hokeypokey.

I'm still waitin' for CJ to bust out big time.   She's been stone cold dead 
for the entire season and I think we should start sending out a search 
party for her.

I'll have a write-up tomorrow ...

Bob Hunt

    
    	There are two good articles in the USA Today lifestyle section
    about two of you guys fav's!
    
    B.A.

The entire show was made for me lasted night when Gwen was hanging the
mistletoe...


Bob, I guess CJ came back lasted night BIG TIME.


Look for Leland and Grace to be doin' the hokeypokey before Gwen and the
Mob Lawyer...

Look for Tommy, whats-her-face and Jonathan to have either:

		a) a menage-a-trois on the beach in Maui
	
		b) Jonathan loses girl in Maui...


I wish that temp had jumped.  If it had been me I would have pushed her.


Gwen was "snappin'" lasted night...phew!!!!


'Saw

    I hope what's his name gets hired back.  
    
    Anyone think Ann and her babysitter are gonna get together???

 Wow !!!  What a wild hour that was !!!   Breathless.   The episode was
 entitled "The Nut Before Christmas" and it certainly was.   As mentioned
 yesterday, the show has a tradition of pulling some surprises on the
 Christmas show and lasted night was no exception.
 
 When Cindy and I sat down lasted night to watch, I put a pad and pencil
 nexted to me so I could remember the highlights.   But the pace was so
 fast and furious that I just jotted down as much as I could.   Afterwards,
 I realized that the only way to write this one up was to recall the events
 as they happened instead of collecting all the plot threads together as
 usual.  So, here goes ... [Aside: Feel free to add any other little things
 you saw or heard if I miss them.]
 
 Yes, indeed, our gal CJ is most definitely back on the radar scope.  Call
 off the search party and feed the bloodhounds.   She's back big time.  We
 open with CJ asking Arnie to represent a close friend of hers in a custody
 hearing.  The friend's ex-husband wants their kids because their mom, CJ's
 friend, has had a lesbian relationship.   Arnie is trying to tell CJ that
 it's a small time case and somebody else should handle it 'cause he's way
 too busy blah blah blah ... until CJ drops the bombshell that she herself
 is the sappho lover in question.   Wham, hello CJ !!!
 
 After that stunning opener, we find ourselves in the usual opening staff
 meeting where several little things pop up.  First off, they're all
 getting mysterious invitations to an unpcoming Christmas party from the
 departed Rosalind Shays.   And the card says "Please drop in!" which, of
 course, is deliciously ironic given Rosalind's "Der Schplat" farewell
 lasted season.   Grace acts quickly and finds out that Rosalind, ever the
 personal touch maestro, had some service deliver these invites each year
 and they hadn't been cancelled following her death.  Grace acts quickly to
 make sure Leland doesn't see his invite.
 
 They also decide to cancel the annual office party since no one, except
 young Billy Castroverti, seems to want to organize it nor will anyone be
 in town or so it seems.   Finally, they also discuss Christmas bonuses, or
 the lack thereof, and Dougie announces that only Benny will be getting
 one.  Something about they couldn't give him a pay raise so the bonus was
 a substitute.   However, as soon as Benny gets his check and opens it, he
 starts getting a little uptight and complains that it's way too much.  
 Dougie insists not and that he's earned all of the $1,500 bonus.   Benny
 is still protesting however ... 
 
 Meanwhile, Dougie and Leland are in private conference and they're
 discussing a major legal boo-boo that Castroverti made that cost a big
 client a pile of cash and has exposed the firm.   The client has insisted
 that Castro's head roll and Dougie and Leland are in agreement.
 
 Fade to Zoey's place where she and Jonathan are in the process of putting
 up a Christmas tree.   Jonathan is disappointed but has to tell Zoey that
 he needs to go home for the holidays to be with his folks.  They both
 agree that he should go home solo since they haven't even been seen
 together in public at the office yet.   We fade away from them as Jonathan
 is attempting to "make it up to her" ... nudge, nudge, wink, wink.
 
 Stuart is on his way to the airport for a trip back East (I didn't catch
 the reason why but it was business, I believe) and as he looks out the
 back window of the taxicab he sees Ann standing nexted to Matthew's nanny
 and they're both waving to him.   It's an unsettling scene because it
 looks painfully domestic but, of course, it isn't.
 
 Whew, that was the end of the first quarter and I was just about out of
 breath.   Felt like we inside a machine gun firing range ...
 
 We come back with Tommy making plans to go to Maui for the holidays and
 he's trying to sweet talk Grace into going with him.   Man, Tommy can sure
 turn on the charm when he wants to.   He ain't no GQ coverboy like Frankie
 The K but he's a smoothie.   Grace resisted, though.  She's a tough bird.
 
 Okay, so now we're in the courtroom for the first time and it's the Arnie
 and CJ custody case.   The ex-alcoholic dad is on the stand and his
 lawyer is pulling all of this "I've changed and I love my kids" stuff
 outta him.  His lawyer also encourages him to blame the fights he had with
 his ex on her sexual choices and the lies he thinks she told him.  Arnie's
 cross, of course, goes right after the poor jerk's past history of drunken
 binges, mild child abuse, and his temper.
 
 Next, we see Dougie and Leland actually letting Billy go.   Billy does his
 best to fall on his sword and promise a bounceback but it's no good.  He
 tries to convince them it was just a little mistake but to no avail.  
 He's toast.  
 
 Fade in to an expensive restaurant and Jonathan is happy to tell Zoey that
 he isn't going home after all.   Zoey looks glum as she breaks the news to
 him that she wet and bought a non-refundable ticket to Maui.   Zing !!!  
 Maui ???  Isn't that where Tommy's headed too ???   More to come, of
 course.
 
 Again Benny is complaining about his bonus money only this time to Betty,
 a very flaky temp secretary who's filling in at the office and is all
 thumbs.  She too tells Benny that he should just accept it.
 
 And we stay right with Betty as she mistakenly gives Jonathan a phone
 message meant for Tommy.   It's from Tommy's travel agent who leaves word
 that his Maui trip is all set.   Jonathan immediately does a slow burn as
 he thinks Zoey and Tommy are off to Maui together behind his back.
 
 Finally, as the halftime two-minute warning approaches, we're back in
 court with Arnie's client, CJ's ex-lover, on the stand.   Arnie is nice
 and gentle with her but the cross is inevitable.   The other lawyer goes
 right at her about her lesbian lover and shakes her up somewhat.
 
 Bang !!!  Halftime gun goes off ...
 
 Second half kickoff goes to Benny and Billy.   Benny is vaguely asking
 Billy if should do something good with something he shouldn't have.   We
 leave these two hatching some little plan.
 
 Back in court we go and the hubby's atty has an expert witness on the
 stand who says the mom's behavior might hurt the kids.  Arnie immediately
 brings her back down by forcing her to admit that there is no scientific
 evidence to back her claims.   The other lawyer calls CJ to the stand ...
 
 Jonathan confronts Zoey with the Maui Mixup and they're in a foul mood. 
 Zoey insists she didn't know Tommy was going.  Jonathan finds that hard to
 swallow.   They both argue about their hesitations to 'go public' with
 their relationship and finally they agree to break away from each other
 for a while and Jonathan stomps out.
 
 And now we have Miss Cara Jeanne Lamb on the witness stand and the hubby's
 lawyer is grilling her about her multiple lesbian affairs and her HIV test
 she took three years ago.   CJ counters oh-so-nicely by pointing out that
 she took the test because it was the responsible thing to do and that she
 tested negative anyway.   The hubby speaks out of turn and the judge bangs
 him down.   The judge then agrees to speak with the oldest kid in his
 chambers tomorrow.
 
 Meanwhile, Stu is on his way home from his business trip.   He's at O'Hare
 and is having some trouble with connecting flights.   Ann is at home with
 the nanny and it's a very cozy (but tense) scene.   The guy is a perfect
 nanny and Ann thanks him for all his hard work as he gets ready to leave
 for the holiday.   However, before he goes, he gives her a gift, a crystal
 necklace.   He helps her put in on and then kisses her from behind on the
 cheek as they're standing at a mirror.  Ann is badly flustered and somehow
 manages to get him out the door before she loses all control.   Looks like
 we might be in for some fireworks here before the year is done, no ???
 
 Nexted day back at the office, the first thing we see is Betty The Ditzy
 Sec'y hand Leland the Rosalind invite that Grace tried to keep from him. 
 Leland thanks her and asks her to put it on his desk.
 
 The judge in the custody case is talking with Jenny, the couple's 8 year
 old girl, and she's a cute kid who basically sees the good in both
 parents.   She leaned more on her mom's side but she did a good job with
 her feelings.   She did tell the judge that she saw Mommy and CJ kissing
 late one night but that she and Mommy talked it through the nexted day.  
 CJ is next seen asking Tommy for advice and Tommy, as usual, has the right
 things to say.   We close this scene with the two sides and their lawyers
 meeting in private to work out a settlement.
 
 Back at the office, Dougie is offering a Christmas toast to the staff when
 all of a sudden in bursts Santa Claus (Billy) and Benny with a big
 Christmas party trailing.   The office immediately gets down to some
 serious yuletide boogy and Douglas is amazed at what's going on.   He goes
 up to Benny and asks him how he put all this together.   Benny says he
 spent his bonus money to do it.   Dougie asks "With just $1,500 ???" and
 Benny says ... "No, $15 *THOUSAND*."   Billy Claus comes up behind a
 stunned Dougie, claps him on the shoulder and says ... "Don't worry, Doug,
 it's just one little 'zero'.  It's a little mistake, right ???"   Wham,
 Dougie was out cold on his feet.
 
 Zoey brings a peace offering to Jonathan ... *TWO* non-refunders to Maui. 
 I didn't catch if it was Tommy's ticket or not but off to Maui they're
 headed.  Not before they lock some lips, though.
 
 And then it happened ... what we've all been predicting.  Gwen, who looked
 absolutely devastating in a black party dress, was hanging mistletoe
 (silly girl!) and Frankie The K, as quick as a cat, climbed the ladder and
 planted one on her.   With nothing to say or do but smooch him back, Gwen
 set the stage for some major league loinal fire to come.    Oughta to be a
 most interesting '92 ...
 
 The party is still raging but Leland is in his office with Grace and he's
 got the Rosalind card with him.  At first, he thinks it's a sick pup joke
 but pretty soon, after Grace clues him in, he's rolling.   Do you really
 think these two are going to be an item ???   Hmmm ...
 
 Arnie finds CJ in a corridor and tells her the good news that the custody
 case was settled with the mom keeping the kids but the dad gets some
 extened visitation rights and so on.  CJ is pleased to be sure.
 
 Stuart is on the phone with Ann (at the office) and she's torqued to hear
 that he still isn't home.  In fact, he's headed back east because of one
 airline screwup or another.  Until Stu surprises her by walking up behind
 her with a portable phone and a "Gotcha!" grin on his face.   More tonsil
 tickles ...
 
 Finally, as we're about to shut down, Betty Blunder is at the end of her
 rope.   She loses yet another death grip struggle with her desktop
 computer and goes off into a rage.  She flings an ash tray stand through a
 conference room window and climbs out onto the ledge threatening to fling
 herself onto the pavement below.   No one moves except of course Billy
 Claus who patiently talks her back down.   Billy tells her that he's had a
 rough week, too.   His folks are getting a divorce and he got the axe at
 the office.   She doesn't believe him so Leland and Dougie bak up his
 story and finally Billy brings her back in.   Whew !!!
 
 We close this epic show with a call for some more music so the party can
 rock on and we get a nice treat.  The hired band starts up an a cappella
 rendition of Johnny Nash's "I Can See Clearly Now", one of my favorite old
 reggae songs.   The song is still softly in the background as CJ knocks on
 her lover's door and they hug the show closed.
 
 Awesome ...  That is why I'm a fan.   Wild stuff.   Pushin' the envelope. 
 Breathless ...
 
 Bob Hunt

Couple of points Bob....

Gwen asks Billy to dance.  I see that as important (potential competition
between Billy and Frankie???) because you know they aren't gonna let
Castroverti go.  This is his first season and what have we seen him do?


I got the distinct idea that Zoey got another ticket for Jonathan and
that they will end up bumping into Tommy...


Agree on the fast pace....


ah, Gwen.....sigh....


'Saw

    Hunt,
    
    	Do you work as well as you report? :*)  Thanks for the update...I
    have to watch it on tape tommorrow.
    
    B.A.
    

    
    See, the SoCal Legal Industry is a lot like rugby....
    

    Dickstah, I thought, like Sports, the SoCal Legal Industry is the
    microcosm of life.
    
    Mark.

    Wow.. E Grace what are you doing in this file? Seems another notesfile
    was not "happy" with some replies in here....
    
    REK

I could be wrong, but I thought she'd bought him a ticket, because
she said "Non-refundable" as in, You can't back out.

I think that having the three of them in Hawaii would make for some good
"conflict" on the show...


'Saw

    Last night's epsiode was the best this season.
    
    RE: douche. 
    
    I couldn't believe my ears.  Too funny.
    
    Another great line was by the crazy film producer
    "I'm so excited. I going to have a bowel movement" (or something to
                                                        that efefct)

    "Pick a stall... You've got 7 minutes..."  
    
    And CJ's expression when that loon was riding her chair was too
    funny...

    Ride dat chair to victory ! 
    
    What a psycho eh ? The mass murderer I mean ....
    
    Doc

    C'mon Hunt...
    
    	Where's yer repert!
    
    B.A.
    

 Another "killer" episode lasted night ... We start off with Tommy talking
 to an accused serial killer currently in jail awaiting trial.   Tommy is
 going to take the guy's case but for a different reason ... his ex, Zoey
 (who, I swear, looks better and better every week) is going to prosecute.
 The jailhouse phone conversation ends with Harvey, the accused, telling
 Tommy that not only did he not kill the girls, he knows who did.
 
 At the opening staff meeting, we see Tommy arguing with everyone else
 about the case but he's insistent and stalks out in a huff.  Leland
 announces that Grace is back as a full-time partner and everyone applauds.
 
 Dougie announces that they have an important new prospective client coming
 in, a very eccentric movie producer named Giles Keenan, who is looking to
 put together a $75 million movie deal and needs legal rep.   The firm
 stands to get $2.2 mill if they can help him seal the deal with some
 deep-pocketed investors.    
 
 The catch here is that the guy is looney tunes.  He's demanded that a
 piano and a tape deck be made available in the firm's offices at all times
 ... and he also wants a marching lane cleared out from the front door
 reception area straight thru to the conf room.    Most of the staff is
 against all the crazy antics but Dougie, $$$ flashing as usual, can taste
 the $2 mill and they're going to accomodate the nut.
 
 So, here he comes marching in with some babes and business pals in tow.  
 Pops a button on the cassette deck and bursts into song.   One of his
 cohorts shuts it off and Keenan looks stunned and hurt.   More to come ...
 
 Meanwhile, the serial killer trial has started and this guy Harvey is one
 cool customer.   The serial killer has killed 17 women to date in a most
 gruesome fashion.   Rapes them and then hangs them upside down and slits
 their throats.  Ouch.   But there's very little physical evidence so Zoey
 presents a lot of shaky circumstantial evidence about his relationships
 with the dead women, his skill as a locksmith, his mountain cottage close
 to a mass grave where 14 of the victims were buried and so on.    There
 has been a DNA test match on some of Harvey's semen found in one of the
 victims but again that's circumstantial as far as murder actually goes.
 
 We wrap up the first quarter with Grace thanking Leland for all his help
 in a little tender private moment as they leave the office.   They're in
 the elevator lobby and they hug and then they ... ooooooh ... kiss.   They
 break away in some ruffled confusion and then take the elevator down and
 out.   Anyone else wonder if it was the Ghost Of Rosalind Shays pushing
 the elevator button for them ???
 
 Upon returning, we're in court with Harvey up on the stand and Tommy is
 quizzing him.   Harvey admits to sleeping with all the victims ... says he
 has been a one-night stander for a long time.   But then he drops the big
 one ... says it was one of his jilted and jealous one-nighters who's been
 killing the girls ... Kelly Sosha.   Says she wrote him letters saying she
 was going to "expunge" the other women from his life.
 
 Zoey tries to counter-attack all this ... the letters haven't been
 authenticated, what he's saying is all hearsay and so on.   But the judge
 allows it and Zoey is pinned back.   Her boss, the DA, is angry and
 confronts her during a recess and suggests to Zoey that she either attack
 back or cut a life-in-prison deal soon.    Zoey tries the deal on Tommy
 but he flatly rejects her.
 
 Back at the firm, Giles Keenan meets the money boys together for the first
 time to pitch the deal.   Tells them all that everyone is just a little
 nutso but that they all have a chance to invest in a dream ... a movie
 that touches, feels, and moves people.  More singing ...   This guy is
 100% prune danish but they're buyin' it ... and then Ann, of all people,
 starts buying into it big time.   Gets all misty-eyed and starts to tell
 the investors all about dreams and hope and wishes and blah blah blah.  
 Keenan gazes longingly at her and she dreamily eyes him right back and he
 calls her "Dulcinea", the characters from Don Quixote.   {Note: I probably
 botched the spelling ... it's been awhile since I've read Cervantes.} 
 Anyway, this is getting weirder by the minute but the $2 mill is almost home.
 
 Back at the trial, Zoey is crossing Harvey but she can't get very far.  
 The guy is ice.   Shoots down each one of her questions and has planted
 the very believable notion that this missing "Kelly Socha" is the real
 serial killerette.
 
 Zip back over to the firm and we see the "children" having some fun. 
 Susan Bloom is being naughty ... she has a security camera video of the
 Leland-Grace smooch and she's playing it for the amusement of the rest of
 the sandbox.   She's even dubbed some romantic music on top of the grainy
 B&W picture and it's a pretty hilarious scene.   But in steps Grace and
 catches them all in the act.   Bloom tries to pass it all off as just some
 good-natured fun but Grace one-ups her and handles it with an exquisite
 touch.   She deftly nabs the tape and then plants a solid smooch on a
 stunned Stu as she swirls out.  
 
 Right before we fade to a halftime break, we see Jonathan and Tommy
 getting ready to duke it out over Zoey.  CJ steps in and breaks 'em up,
 though.  But not before she gets in a few choice zings at Tommy, too.  
 He's really losing it over Zoey.
 
 Fade back in to court and Zoey is calling a surprise witness ... a young
 girl named Alyssa Stewart.   Tommy protests but the young girl's name was
 buried deep on some long witness list so up on the stand she goes.  As she
 goes by, Harvey whispers "Uh-oh" and Tommy looks real worried.
 
 And her testimony is electric.  Says she had a date with Harvey and she
 thought she was going to be killed.   Says he broke into her apartment and
 had a knife ready to go.  But she broke away and fled to her boyfriend's
 house.   Break for the day ... Tommy to cross tomorrow.  And now Zoey and
 Tommy are really angry.   They argue in private about the case and then
 Tommy sorta breaks down and confesses that he misses her and doesn't like
 the Jonathan relationship.
 
 Back to the nut house ... The movie investors phone Ann with the good news
 that they're in for $75 mill.   Cheers all around and Keenan announces
 that he's so happy he needs to go have a bowel movement.   Ann is
 completely caught up in all this ... she literally in swimming in stars
 until CJ comes to her and asks her to please come to her office.
 
 And we see a most hilarious sight ... {probably the funniest thing since
 Arnie and Rox fell thru the ceiling lasted year}.   Keenan is stripped
 down to his boxers and he's literally riding CJ's chair like a horse.  
 He's yelling "... and Genuine Risk and Secretariat are neck and neck !!!" 
 He's violently jerking the back of the chair like reins and bouncing up
 and down just like a jockey would.   Ann is stunned.   She asks him if he
 thinks he's on a horse and he calmly says ... "No, this is a chair."  
 Totally rollward.
 
 And now we see a huffy Leland confronting Susan Bloom about the kissing
 tape.    Harumphs about all her sleazy clients and loud manners and so on
 and then Susan just flat shuts him up.    She looks at him and takes
 charge immediately.  Says she knows now that Leland wants her bad.  So she
 offers to do it right there and now.   Says it'll be the best 7 minutes of
 his entire life.   Leland is just plain staggered.   Dead silence and she
 has the slyest little grin.
 
 At this point, I'm almost ready to call off the contest.   Susan Bloom is
 far and away the best newcomer of the year.   She is simply outrageous and
 she totally dominates every single scene she's in.   They are probably
 setting her up for some kind of fall later on this year ... maybe they'll
 reveal some tender background piece of her life ... but for now she's pure
 sizzle.   A large package who can wield both a broad meat-axe and a
 delicate stilleto with equally devastating results.   She's so far out in
 front she's off the map ...
 
 Anyway, now we see a grisly scene.   Alyssa Stewart, the witness, is found
 dead in her apartment.   You got it ... hanging upside down with her
 throat cut.  Zoey is there as well as the police and forensics people.
 
 Tommy is at the jail and once again he and Harvey are discussing things. 
 Tommy is furious.   He has little doubt that Harvey did it or had it done. 
 But Harvey, cold as ever, insists that he's been behind bars all day and
 night and that it's "Kelly Socha" doing it.   Since Stewart was never
 crossed, her testimony has to be thrown out and Harvey could easily get a
 mistrial.   But he tells Tommy that he wants no mistrial and that he wants
 to press for a jury acquittal.   End of third quarter ...
 
 Nexted day, we see Zoey tell the judge that a DNA test on Stewart's body
 lasted night showed hairs from "Kelly Socha".   Zoey insists that Harvey
 did it and she and Tommy march in to chambers to settle things with the
 judge.   She wants a mistrial and another crack at him later but the judge
 sees the clear legal path to an acquittal and turns her down.
 
 And now we're back in the office and the investors are ready to ink the
 papers for Keenan's mega deal.   At the last minute though, a distraught
 Ann blows the whistle and tells them all about the "Kentucky Derby".  
 Keenan looks pained and excuses himself ... Ann goes after him.
 
 Harvey is innocent on all charges.   Zoey is stunned.   Tommy is deeply
 deeply troubled and quickly leaves the courtroom.
 
 We come back to the office and Ann finds Keenan singing softly to himself
 at the piano.  She sits next to him and plays and sings the "Dulcinea"
 song from "Man Of La Mancha".   Also tells him that she'd send him to ride
 in The Preakness.   He exits with a soft flourish.   Weird stuff.   Ann is
 getting more and more schizo with every new turn of events.   I have no
 idea where her character is going ...
 
 And now we come to the final scene ... As we expected, Harvey is indeed
 the serial killer.   Only now we're in Zoey's bedroom.   She's alone
 sleeping and Harvey is dressed in drag and he has a knife.   Zoey wakes up
 with a startle and things look pretty bleak for her.
 
 But Tommy steps out of the shadows and he's packin' a piece.   Harvey
 looks puzzled but tries to sweet talk his way out.   Tommy ain't buyin'
 it, though, and reminds ol' Harv that the Assistant DA might just be
 willing to see this as a self-defense killing should he happen to blow him
 away.
 
 And he does ...  Harvey turns his back and tries to get his own gun out
 but Tommy pumps a coupla slugs in him and Harv is toast.   Zoey and Tommy
 hug as we fade to credits.    Predictable but good ending nonetheless.  
 See you all nexted week ...
 
 Bob Hunt

    > What a psycho eh ? The mass murderer I mean ....
    
    Hadn't seen LA Law in a long time, but I can see that they've gotten
    increasingly improbable with their wild story lines.  Serial psycho-
    killer is able to somehow contact or send a message to someone willing 
    to kill, in the exact same bizarre psychotic MO, the prosecution's star 
    witness on the same day she (a woman who wouldn't come forward
    precisely because she feared retribution) gives her testimony, all 
    completely undetected, of course.  Serial killer is sprung and 
    immediately heads over to DA's house to bump her off.  Right.  
    Oversaturation of my sensory capabilities...
    
    glenn
    

    
    	Great rehash, as usual, Bob.  
    
    	I was screamin' at Tommy to blow 'em away!  :*)
    
    	Claybroon

    
    Glenn makes a very good point.  The show used to be about current legal
    ussues, and tried to show both sides.  The few shows I've seen this
    season seem to try to incorporate sleaze and strange characters.  I
    think the writers are feeling heat from NE, and trying to be more like
    it, rather than trying to do what it once did well.
    
    And it is getting rather predictable.  Was anyone surprised at the
    Leland-Grace thing, or that the killer got off, and was actually
    guilty?
    
    Bruce

                       
 > C'mon, dude, it's entertainment.
    
    No, I understand you and I'm really not a shrivelled up old man.  It's
    not even the improbabilities on the show that bother me most.  It's more 
    the fact that mixed in with some truly hilarious stuff not too long ago 
    there really was also some quality television, quality drama, with real 
    pending legal and moral issues presented (usually in the domain of the
    Kuzak and Sifuentes characters).  That appears to be totally gone, with
    pure insanity in its place.  The show has slipped badly from the Boccho
    days (as many have).  Just my opinion, of course...
    
    glenn
    

    I expected him to be gulity, but I thought we might see a breaved S.O.
    of a victim blow him away, or even have Harvey show up over a few
    episodes.
    
    And yes it was predictable (I can't think of the title of a movie that 
    comes to mind), but like Bob said, it was fun.
    
    The "horse race" blew me away - funniest scene I've seen in a long
    time. And the "No it's a chair" line was a classic.
    
    Doc

 Glenn,
 
 I agree with you that the zaniness has increased in volume.   That's
 because there are *more* characters in the ensemble.   I thought the
 Leland and the Chimp thing was dumb, for example.
 
 But it's been zany since Day 1 ... anyone remember what Kuzak wore to
 Grace's almost-wedding six years ago ???
 
 To say that treatment of pending legal and moral issues is totally gone
 with pure insanity in its place is just not correct.   Here are some of
 the legal issues they've explored just this year alone ...
 
 - A tangle over the estate of a Vietnam MIA soldier
 - Environmental terrorism (tree spikers against the logging industry)
 - Genetic engineering (woman's spleen cells made a doc rich)
 - A death row inmate who had to be drugged in order to be killed
 - Court-ordered sterilization of a drug-addicted abusive young mother
 - Gun control in the crack-infested slums
 - Weight loss industry liability
 - Education rights for the severely handicapped
 
 And they even did a sports law case where a bunch of Globie wannabes lost
 to a women's all-star team and then breached their contract.
 
 And, yes, several "juicy" criminal cases involving some pretty nasty
 murders.   There was a mob hit, this serial killer thing, and some more
 that I forget.    Yes, the show has changed but all shows change.   This
 one still has a lot of life in it and I don't think they've abandoned
 *all* their original goals and principles.
 
 Bob Hunt

    The LA Law scripts are probably even more predictable to ACChris. 
    
    "Let's see, I bet this accused serial killer either did it or he
    didn't."
    
    	--dan'l

Read somewhere that Victor is due back for a guest appearance during the
February sweeps....

Keep yer eyes open fans....


'Sa

               
    > "Let's see, I bet this accused serial killer either did it or he
    > didn't."
    
    Rollward!  ("Very, very weak, dan'l.  You've yet to prove me wrong.")
    
    You're probably right, Bob.  I have a tendency to get bored easily with
    something.  Now "Cheers", that show really stinks now (seriously!).
    
    glenn
    

The serial killer plot was an almost direct rip off from the Jagged Edge. It
was soooo predictable. I liked the crazy guy but had to mute the duet. Why
does hollywood always think that actors should also be allowed to sing? 

Tommy's character is getting too much exposure. It's time to give the other
chracters some more meaty trials....

The Leyland/grace thing was/is stupid....

I agree with glen that the show is slipping...it's slipping a lot...


Meanwhile........


Northern Exposure is maintaining is't great scriptwriting and great performances.
Rob Morrow (Dr. Joel Fleishman) is hosting Saturday Night Live this weekend with
musical guests Nirvana.........

I can't recall the name of the actor that played the movie flake, 
but he's is an excellent actor. He played Mel Profit on what was 
possibly one of the best TV shows in recent history, Wiseguy. The 
Profit saga is currently be re-run on WWOR on weeknights at 8pm, 
alternating nights with Quincy.

Wiseguy was excellent televison, it's too bad Ken Wahl got too 
big for his britches...

Shlep til it hurts...
daryll

Kevin Spacey is the actor.  He was great on Wiseguy. 
"Only the toes knows" was his favorite line.  

Wiseguy was great for the first season, but slid badly
after that.   The first episodes with Sonny Steelgrave
are classic.

Another vote for Buffalo Bill!

Mike,

I agree, but I don't think the decline started until after the 
Profit storyline.

The final 2 hr episode of the Steelgrave storyline is the single 
best television program I've ever seen.

Jonathon Banks was great too...

daryll

    
    'Wiseguy' started declining after the 'Garment District' storyline which
    itself was excellent.
    
    As far as 'LA LAW' goes (he said before he went down in flames), its
    best days are way behind it. It's a boring nighttime soap.
    
    There are only a few shows worth wasting your time in front of a tv
    set. 'The Simpsons', 'Northern Exposure',  'Steinfeld' and on occasion
    'In Living Color'.

>    There are only a few shows worth wasting your time in front of a tv
>    set. 'The Simpsons', 'Northern Exposure',  'Steinfeld' and on occasion
>    'In Living Color'.


Au contraire, Pierre....


	Wings on Discovery Channel

	This Old House

	The Three Stooges

	Star Trek TNG

	48 Hours (on occasion)

	America's Most Wanted 

	Time Machine, on A&E



Hal Tried Hard(tm)
'Saw

  
    re .123
    
    Naturally, that list was personal opinion as was the rest of 
   the note. I have a lot of other things I'd rather do than watch 
   tv. Three or four shows is all I get to see and the three I listed 
   are my faves although on occasion if 'Frontline', '48 hours', 'Nova'
   or '60 minutes' has something that interests me I'll watch. 
    

I love watching Jonathan winters on Davis Rules. Most of the time you can tell
he's add-libbing and the rest of the cast is cracking up.....


Metz

    I agree with Glen on Cheers also, I'm sad to say.  They oughta just
    shoot it, and put us out of our misery.

    Thursday's usually the only good night for tv...
    
    This Old House, 90210, LA Law.  

    90210?  Just how old are you?
    
    Do you get all gaga when Luke Perry comes onscreen?  Are you really
    still using Stridex?
    
    Many 8-)'s
    
    	--dan'l

 Just three must-see's for this boy ...
 
 Tuesday night	 ... Home Improvement
 Wednesday night ... Wonder Years
 Thursday night  ... LA Law
 
 The rest can slide on by.   I know there's some other good stuff out there
 (Northern Exposure, for one) but these are the gotta haves.
 
 Bob Hunt

    All the guys on 90210 are in their mid to late 20s...
    
    And they are way cute.  (-:

Only a few must haves for this guy...

Monday..Murphy Brown and Northern Exposure
Tuesday.. Home Improvement
Wednesday.. Coach and Quantum Leap 
Thursday.. The Simpsons

Kind of sad when there's 70+ hours of network prime time programing every week.
(not including cable stuff)...

Well, It gives me time to work on the MG


Metz

    
    	As usual Bob,  Great report!
    
    Thanks!
    
    B.A.
    

    Full House SUCKS bigtime..... I can'T stand that show!!!!
    
    Home Improvment...
    Star Trek TNG..
    Coach...
    Cooking show fron the California school of Culinary
    Frugal Gourmet
    Married with Children
    America's home videos
    Quantum Leap
    Law and Order
    
    REK

    There's a guy in our office who really gets off on a progam on USA
    called 'Silk Stockings.'  It's a sexy detective show.  The way he
    describes it is that the murder victim is usually a female wearing a
    bikini and when they get killed, their tops always fall off.
    
    	--dan'l

I've noticed that the time I spend TV viewing is spent mostly on
cable channels.

The network shows that I watch are:

		Home Improvement
		Roseanne
		LA LAW

I also watch on FOX

		America's Most Wanted
		Star Trek TNG


Public TV	
		This Old House
		The New Yankee Workshop (wish I had some great tools like
			Norm)
                The Frugal Gourmet (talks too much, but cooks well)

Cable

		Investigative Reports (A&E)
		Time Machine	      (A&E)
		Wings		      (Discovery)



On occasion I'll buy a movie on PPV, but mostly I watch things that will
inform or educate me.  Contrary to popular belief, TV is still a great tool
for that....


'Saw

       What happened 'Saw, I didn't see the Bundys on your list? Didn't
    take 'em long to re-run the Jessica Hahn episode. The Troof fight was
    over so quick I watched MWC.
                                        Denny

>       What happened 'Saw, I didn't see the Bundys on your list? Didn't
>    take 'em long to re-run the Jessica Hahn episode. The Troof fight was
>    over so quick I watched MWC.

I haven't been watching it lately.  It's gotten kind of old for me,
I guess.

Sunday night is a dreadful night for TV anyway, so I usually end up
reading...


'Saw

Tell us how the birthdays went!


8^)

'Saw

    
    The M*A*S*H* reruns with Trapper/Blake are the only old shows I can
    watch over and over again without getting tired of them...
    
    glenn
    

    ...and I can watch Dragnet reruns all day without tiring of them.
    Thank heaven for Nick at Nite!
    
    
    py

    
    Mr. Hunt, 
    
    	Thanks so much for the blow by blow updates. I've had to be at
    School Committee meetings on Thursday nights for the last (and next)
    few weeks and I've looked forward to reading your notes.
    
    					Mike

    RE New Yankee Workshop:
    
    I get so pissed as I watch Norm walk for miles from one piece of
    equipment to the next in his workshop.  Did you ever ntice how his
    equipment is always set just right and he never has to make any
    adjustments.  ARRRGGH!

>    RE New Yankee Workshop:
>    
>    I get so pissed as I watch Norm walk for miles from one piece of
>    equipment to the next in his workshop.  Did you ever ntice how his
>    equipment is always set just right and he never has to make any
>    adjustments.  ARRRGGH!


They made a funny remark about that on TOH a few episodes ago.

At first I used to think, "Gee, I could do as well with those tools too",
but then I realized that carpentry and cabinetmaking is Norm's career,
and that those tools are essential.

As to the right adjustments, I think in the half-hour, that's important
to keep the flow going....although I personally would love to see
Norm spend an episode just talking about his power tools, what they
do, how they work, how they are adjusted....

Another thing that comes to mind is "Gee, how did they do it in the very
old days before routers and rounding-over bits."...  There is a show
on the Community College channel I believe, where they have a guy doing
woodworking with old (like 1700's) type tools -- VERY interesting....



Someday, when I own a house, and have some money to 'play' with, I'd
like to get into cabinet making like Norm does.  It looks to be a very
relaxing, satisfying hobby....


Remember to always use your blade guard!

'Saw

    
    Norm was talking about it a few episodes ago.  Apparently TNYW is
    filmed next to where Victory Garden is filmed.  When he started TNYW he
    had the opportunity to design his workshop exactly how he wanted.  
    
    It's frustrating for me because I am having a house built, and livingh
    at my inlaws in the interim.  I have all my tools crammed into my
    father inlaw's workshop.  He's into welding, I'm into woodworking.  So
    I have about 2 square feet of floor space and no room to move around. 
    I have room for only one tool on the bench at a time, so as I go from
    measuring, to cutting, to routing, to drilling, to sanding I have to do
    an incredible amount of equipment rearranging--thinking about Norm as I
    go along.
    
    Brews
     

>    Norm was talking about it a few episodes ago.  Apparently TNYW is
>    filmed next to where Victory Garden is filmed.  When he started TNYW he
>    had the opportunity to design his workshop exactly how he wanted.  
    

Do you know where that is?


As I've mentioned previously, my folks saw Norm at a workshop-presentation
one time, and I believe he mentioned he's from the Worcester area....


'Saw


PS Always liked Norm - he makes it look so easy....     

    
    It's in the Boston Area somewhere.  The show is out go WGBH, isn't it?
    
    Brews

    Norm lives in Hudson and I believe the workshop is near the Cape.
    
    Locals tell me he's a regular guy.
    
    Hal tried Hard (tm)
    
    Kev
    

My folks said he was just a plain old regular guy also.  He took time
to talk to any one that wanted to talk to him....


'Saw

BTw - Saw,

Norm isn't a cabinetmaker. A real cabinetmaker would shoot Norm and run his
creations through a planer until they were small particles of Sawdust. A real
cabinetmaker wouldn't use drywall screws and glue on every joint they put
together. While Norm is great for the average guy just trying to do some 
woodworking at home....Please don't insult professionals by calling him a 
cabinetmaker. He's a hack who started out in home improvement and "graduated"
to his own show for the average guy....

The show where the guy uses all the old tolls is called "the Woodworker", I
think....or The Woodrights Shop..I can't remember...

Norm is a lot closer to Tim than he is to a professional cabinetmaker....

Watch me cut this perfect dovetail in 16 seconds and then slap a lot of glue
on the joint to hold it together....UGH

Metz

>Norm isn't a cabinetmaker. A real cabinetmaker would shoot Norm and run his
>creations through a planer until they were small particles of Sawdust. A real
>cabinetmaker wouldn't use drywall screws and glue on every joint they put
>together. While Norm is great for the average guy just trying to do some 
>woodworking at home....Please don't insult professionals by calling him a 
>cabinetmaker. He's a hack who started out in home improvement and "graduated"
>to his own show for the average guy....

>Norm is a lot closer to Tim than he is to a professional cabinetmaker....

My cousin, who is a cabinetmaker, doesn't think Norm is so bad, however,
we've never talked at the "technical cabinetmaking" level...

And besides, I'm an "average guy"  8^)


'Saw

    If you're really interested in using the non-power old-timey tools and
    live east of the Hudson River - go talk to the guys at Olde Sturbridge
    Village.  In the last few years they've put up a couple of buildings
    using only hand tools and the water-driven sawmill.  I can find out who
    the best folks are to talk to if you really want to get in depth info.
    
    The old-timey tools woodworker show on PBS is coming out of Carolina
    someplace.  Victory Garden, This Old House, and The Yankee Workshop are
    all out of WGBH.  Victory Garden did a show from Sturbridge this past
    summer, and my kidlet was in the background of one of their segments. 
    Says it's the sharpest his scythe got all summer.  :-)
    
    A&W

    Norm is a carpenter.
    
    He got involved with TOH as a winter part time effort to make a few
    bucks as the result of doing some home improvemnts for Dave Morash
    the producer.  The rest is history.
    
    Metz is right.  Norm's not a cabinetmaker but for what he does and who 
    he does it for, he's a pretty good woodworker (1 step up from a
    carpenter but far below cabinetmaker).
    
    Hal tried Hard(tm)
    Kev
    

       I think Norm's official title would be 'finish carpenter', you know,
    the guys who do the trim around windows and such.
                                       Denny

    
    The show Metz is thinking of is "the Woodwright's Shop"

>    The show Metz is thinking of is "the Woodwright's Shop"

I enjoy this show.


Norm.  Norm is listed as a Master Carpenter, but if Mass is anything like
SC and some other places where I programmed licensing info etc, then
that just means his license title.

I agree with Denny - finish carpenter.


The thing I like about Norm is that he makes it easy for me to understand,
and believe me, I have problems knowing which end of the hammer to hold, 
and I thought a reversible drill was one that had a nice pattern on the
inside of the casing that you could turn inside out to show....


'Saw

    	I believe "The Woodwright's Shop" is broadcast out of
    	North Carolina.
    
    	Scott

    
>>Norm.  Norm is listed as a Master Carpenter, but if Mass is anything like
    
    
    I thought Norm was a "Beer Drinker" on "Cheers"!!!
    
    JaKe
    

    Just had to say Thanks for the update...  I play soccer when `law
    is on and never get to watch it.  Your notes keep me informed on the
    latest.
    
    

 Did anyone catch and tape the FISHBONE concert last night? Last night was
 basketball night and I miss it. Inspite of my best Freddie Brown imitation
 last night we hung in there and won in OT...

 mike

     Kinda sound like a prediction the Slasher might make, Kawk...
    Don't get to far out on a limb now.  
    
     I think you're right about the Bennie thing.  I won't be surprised to
    see him not make it through next season.
    
    

    
    After watching Oliver Stone get pistol-whipped by Sam Donaldson and
    some forensic experts, I did turn it over to the second half of LA Law,
    and did think this episode was much better than the last (it may have
    just been coincidencal that *everything* about the last episode was
    sensationalistic).  The Bennie story was indeed heartwarming...
    
    I wouldn't mind too much if Arnie's character left LA or even the show
    completely (that's not in the works, right?).  He's kind of become a
    parody of a sleazy lawyer rather than just the sleazy lawyer he was
    previously...
    
    glenn
      

    
    So what did the forensic experts have to say.
    
    Pat
    

    Really,  I'd be interested as well.  Maybe we should move this
    to the Junk Note...
    
    BG

    I predict the host of the Sunup show wants to make Arnie his own..

    	Hey Bob,

    	How about making up a real juicy story-line for this Thursday's
    show? Since this week is a re-run, maybe you can add some spice to the
    week!
    
    B.A.
    

    The new newsanchor hits on Arnie and a steamy love scene between the
    two of them developed.  The last 30 minutes are taken off the air
    down south.
    
    A college coach is an trial for throwing a chair into the stands and
    injuring an opposing team player's mother.  The case is heard by
    judge Funderburke.
    
    Tommy and Zoe get back together.  Rox (rejected by Arnie) and Jonathan
    (rejected by Zoe) go out for dinner and drinks with CJ.
    
    David Meyer makes a cameo appearance and Arnold Ziffel's manager for
    a lunch meeting with Susan Bloom.
    
    Vanna White does not appear in this episode.

Hey!

Have you been into my SPORTShrooms again?????


8)

I loved Benny (Larry Drake) in Darkman, as the heavy....


'Saw

    Anybody catch Northern Exposure lasted night?  Fleishman (sp) and
    O'Connell (sp) were marooned in the wilderness and were discussing what
    they always thought they'd be when they grew up.  The dialog went
    something like:
    
    Fleishman:	I always wanted to play centerfield for the Yankees.  BS.
    
    O'Connell:	BS?
    
    Fleishman:	Before Steinbrenner.
    
    
    I was rolling, yet Mrs.ACC Chris looked at me with the most perplexed
    expression.  (She's none too sports inclined, to say the least!)
    
    
    - ACC Chris
    

worthless LA Law trivia...

Watched about 30 seconds worth of some extremely lame "Super Blooper" pap. The
joke was on Douglas Brackman (forget his real name) and what caused me to watch
it for the 30 seconds was to verify that his wife-in-real-life is the actress
that plays his ex-wife Sheila on the show...

Bruce

 And as the curtain rises, we see our long lost pal CJ arguing with a
 government attorney.   CJ is representing a client whose wife was brutally
 raped, beaten and killed by a coke criminal ... but this killer was under
 the safe watchful eye of the US Federal Witness Protection Program.   She
 rejects his settlement offer plus she's pissed about a gag order on the
 case.
 
 The killer was convicted of the murder but CJ's going after the gubmint
 for negligence now.   This will be a tough one to win since the feds can
 operate pretty freely under this program ...  plus they won't hesitate to
 "threaten" her to get her to play ball ... they know about her sappho
 lifestyle and could make things nasty for her.
 
 We come in on the usual staff meeting and Tommy is missing.  Doesn't take
 much to guess that Tommy is probably off sulking about Zoey and about the
 serial killer he wasted while protecting her.   Dougie, the ever spineless
 one, thinks CJ should cave in to the feds and accept the settlement to
 lighten the risk.   
 
 But in bursts Rox and she quickly clicks on Arnie who's on national tube
 doing his legal schtick for the "Sun Up" show.   As we watch, Arnie is
 quickly brought down a peg or two by the blow-dried anchorman who teases
 him about his high fees and his do-it-yourself divorce video.   After the
 spot, we see Arnie and the anchor discussing things and Arnie ain't too
 terribly tickled about the rough handling.   The anchor poo-poohs him and
 saunters off after other game.
 
 {Insert quick shot of Tommy doing quick shots at a local watering hole. 
 This early in the morning ???   Somethin' must be wrong ...}
 
 We move quickly to court and CJ's client is on the stand describing the
 rape-killing.  It's a pretty heart-rending story ... innocent couple
 getting some cash at an ATM but along comes the crazed coke fiend to
 pillage and plunder.   The gubmint attorney crosses the poor guy by
 pointing out to him that the killer is already behind bars but the widower
 fires back at him about the witness program and how it failed to protect
 him and his wife.
 
 We fade to a first quarter time out with a shot of Tommy in confession
 telling the priest about the serial killer he plugged full of lead.   So
 that's what bugging him ... the ol' "I took a human life" guilt trip.  
 Maybe yes, maybe no.
 
 Second quarter begins with Jon in Zoey's bed but Zoey is up and bustling
 about trying to get her day started.  She's a bundle of nervous energy so
 perhaps she's still trying to come to grips that she was a hair away from
 death lasted time we saw her.   The answering machine is turned on and who
 should happen to call looking to talk ... you got it, Tommy.   Jon
 confides to Zoey that Tommy's having some tough times at the office.
 
 Switch over to Arnie and Rox's place and ol' Arnie is doing the call
 waiting thing handling a bunch of hustle type phone calls.  Rox is doing
 yet another slow burn but she can't resist a trademark whine or two as she
 grumbles about his jet-set schedule and his Mr On-The-Go lifestyle.   As
 blind as ever, Arnie tells her she's being ridiculous and then proceeds to
 give her a quick peck and ... poof ... he's out the door heading for the
 Big Apple.   I'm not sure how much "steam" is left in this relationship. 
 Their high point was their low point ... lasted year when they crashed
 through the ceiling while doin' the nasty.
 
 Next we're back in court and one of the feds' witness program managers is
 on the stand describing just how valuable the killer was in helping stop
 some Columbian coke lords and how he needed the protection to save his
 miserable life.   CJ crosses her by getting to her admit that, according
 to program rules, the killer should have been tossed out of the program
 after he was found with coke several months before the rape-murder.   The
 gubmint looked the other way to keep the guy under wraps ... this'll be
 CJ's major point in trying to prove negligence.
 
 Back at the office, Arnie is pissing about his work backlog but Gwen
 shoots down each of his gripes with the news that she's taken care of each
 of his clients.  Arnie is grateful but Gwen doesn't believe it.
 
 CJ pops in on Frank Kittredge, who apparently used to work as US Justice
 Dept lawyer, to ask him for some advice.  Frankie assures her that Justice
 can play hardball whenever and however they want but he encourages her to
 keep going because their $100K settlement was rare so she must have a
 decent case.
 
 Tommy is over at Zoey's and she's making him dinner.  They talk about the
 shooting and Tommy pours his heart out about his problems with it.   Zoey
 tries to convince him that he did the right thing and they fade to a
 clinch.   You can smell the inevitable collision with Jonathan coming ...
 
 And here it comes ... 2nd half kickoff has Jon walking into Zoey's
 apartment and there's Tommy and Zoey catching some Z's in her bed.   Jon
 immediately does an about face and he's outta there with Zoey imploring
 him to wait ...  Both Z and T have their last night clothes on so we're
 led to believe that they actually just slept together but didn't sleep
 together, if you can follow that.
 
 Arnie's back on tube and he's interviewing a famous divorce lawyer.  But
 all of a sudden, the anchor schmuck butts right in and steals every inch
 of Arn's weak thunder.   The ambush is total and Arn is mondo torqued
 about it.   A confrontation is coming up soon ...
 
 Tommy then pops in for a chit-chat with Jon and tries to assure him that
 he didn't sleep with Zoey lasted night.  Jon is really upset and they
 almost come to blows but Tommy backs off and exits.
 
 And now we see one of the US marshals on the stand.  This guy apparently
 was in charge of the district where the killer was living.   He admits
 that they knew about his coke use but all they did was step up
 supervision.  Then CJ drops a thermonuke on the whole thing by bringing up
 the fact this Vaderos guy had actually murdered a hooker as well before he
 killed the guy's wife.   The gubmint lawyer goes nuts and trys to get all
 this information suppressed but CJ is scoring beaucoup points.   She puts
 the witness program supe back up on the stand and gets her to discuss the
 hooker murder too.
 
 And we end the 3rd quarter with Zoey taking her shot at Jon in his office. 
 She confirms that nothing hot and heavy happened with Tommy but Jon is
 bull headed and he calls for a breakup ...
 
 Final stanza kicks in with Arnie still in New York but he's back in the
 dressing room area and he overhears the anchor and the producer arguing
 about him.  The anchor thinks Arnie is next to useless and Arnie goes to
 seek solace with his makeup assistant who knows all the ins and outs of
 this game.  She tells Arnie that's he pretty much toast but that somehow
 this is all a setup 'cause the anchor and the producer have been at each
 others' throats for a long time.   Setup ???  Who could have set this up,
 Arnie wonders ???   We'll soon see ...
 
 Now CJ and the gubmit are presenting closing args.  CJ's major point is
 that the witness program "allowed" this crime to happen but the fed atty
 insists it's a cost of doing business in the war on drugs.
 
 Tommy tries again to talk some sense into Jon and it looks like it's
 working.   Tommy admits he stills loves Z but he also admits that she's
 happiest with Jon right now and that Jon would be a fool to let her go
 'cause he knows what that feels like.
 
 The judge hands down his decision and CJ loses convincingly.   There is
 enough latitude in the program rules that the gubmint can just about get
 away with anything so no negligence.   The judge wants to lift the gag
 order but the feds appeal that decision and all lips are still sealed.
 
 And now Arnie confronts the mastermind behind all his latest 'troubles'. 
 You got it ... Susan Bloom who played Arnie as a trump card for her client
 on the "Sun Up" show.  She knew all along that Arnie was fresh bait and
 would be canned before long.   Arnie is furious but she shuts him up tight
 by telling him that she renegotiated his contract with the local tube with
 a 15% hike plus some new perks.   With a "Ciao!" and a kissy-poo, she's
 out the door and Arnie is in stunned silence.   Score another first round
 knockout for the queen of this show.   Electric !!!
 
 Jon is on Zoey's doorstep with flowers ... Nice clinch and the rest is up
 to imagination ...
 
 Our final scene has CJ conferring with Leland and her client about the
 case.   The gag order is permanent and the loss is total.   But her client
 decides he wants to talk anyway and CJ has to let him go on his own with
 no legal support behind him.  She feels bad but we fad as the poor guy
 addresses a gaggle of media types with the simple announcement that he
 wants to tell the world how his wife was killed ...
 
 Nexted week is a Letterman anniversary special.  See ya in 2, I guess.
 
 Bob Hunt

Small nit Bob.

Tommy didn't take the drink.  He was gonna, but didn't...  Guess he's not
quite that bad off.   Still like this character a lot...


The network anchor is the guy who used to play Steve Andropoulos on 
"As the World Turns", in case anyone is interested....



Finally, nexted week on Cheers they feature Harry Connick Jr....


'Saw

Bah humbug...

another disappointing episode....

I think I'll even stop taping this show on ski nights now...

Metz

    SOmebody ought to kick Susan Bloom's a$$ into nexted week ....

    I'm only going to ask this in hear cause "Cheers" is on one show away
    from L.A. Law.
    
    Did anybody see lasted nights "Cheers"????  I think "Cheers" has gone
    way downhill recently, but I think lasted night's, with Frazier running
    into his firsted wife and Lilith flipping out etc. was the funniest
    "Cheers" I've seen in a LONG, LONG time.  Anybody agree or disagree????
    
    JaKe
    

It'll be GREAT nexted week though (or thised Thursday I should say)
cause they're gonna have my main man on, Harry Connick Jr....

    	Hey 'Saw, is this the same Harry Connick Jr. who set the Super
    Bowl record for longest and boringest rendition of the national
    anthem just last Sunday?  That guy was on the field longer than
    the Buffalo offense.
    
    				/Don
    
    				

Yeah,.

I wasn't impressed with the Anthem, but I like the rest of the stuff
he does.

I've got all of his albums except the new one "Red Light, Blue Light"
and the "Harry met Sally" soundtrack....

'Saw

 Saw just wants his girl..that's all...

 mike

>
> Saw just wants his girl..that's all...
>

Hell, I'd settle for half his talent at the keyboard and vocals.

The kid has a "feel".  A definite "feel".....


Also has a hot babe too.


I wouldn't mind one of those.  Nope.  Not at all....

    I'd settle for a definte "feel" for Jill .... :-)

Who's his girl?

    Hey Metz!  Is that you in the new Technical Journal?

I dunno...what's it about? Highly unlikely since I didn't know about it...


Metz

his girl is world famous model Jill Goodacre, who made her bones in Victoria 
Secrets catalogs.

more importantly I dozed off last night and need to know did Chris flip his cow
last night???

mike

    Aw Mikey, ya missed a GREAT ending!
    
    Ya know the kid who is into movies? I ferget his name but he told Chris
    that Monty Python already did the cow tossing thang.  Chris was bummed
    out to the max since his original idea was no longer original.  While
    sitting in his barn loft getting toasted, the NASA guy came in and
    really gave him a sincere, suprisingly sensitive bit o' advice.  Chris
    went over to Meg's burned out shell and got her toasted piano (which
    was actually hurled).
    
    The shot of the piano being catapulted, along with the music from the
    Blue Danube, in sloooooow motion was truly great.
    
    Nexted time, do a bit o shut eye ~8:10PM for 1/2 hour.  Works for me!
    
    Hal Tried Hard (tm)
    
    Kev
    

 Thanks Kev. Couldn't catch any shut eye early cause UCONN/SU was mucho 
 exciting. Eddie is the kid's name who is into movies....

 I was crying when Dr. Joel was complaining to Marylin about the toss and
 how it would hurt the cow. She comes back with, "well maybe you can give
 him something" "like what?" "maybe a valium" her deivery was great...

 

    Have you noticed that they seem to be giving Harly a bigger role
    lately?  
    
    Interesting bit of trivia - My 1st boss here at DEC has a wife
    who is a dead ringer for Meg.  Initially I thought maybe she split
    from him and went to Hollywood 'cause the resemblance is so similiar!
    
    Last weeks' great line was from Joel when he fixed the plane motor
    "well, sometimes valves get crudded up in people so I thought I'd
    do a bit of exploratory surgery on the valves...."  I knew he'd fix
    it but as a #1 dweeb........
    
    ;^)
    
    I remain,
    still yawning.....
    Kev
    

for thos of you new to the show I'll translate Kev's previous notes


Harley = Holling, the owner of the Brick (the bar) and Shelley's main squeeze
Meg = Maggie (Mary Margret) O'Connell, the luscious fly babe with the burnt house
The kid in the movies = Ed, the local movie fanatic and foil for Dr Joel
NASA guy = Maurice, former astronaut and wheeler dealer


Great footage of the piano flinging last night. I thought they left the story
about the former pro golfer who blew the masters (bob or Larry Coe) a little 
too abruptly...


Metz

No problemo dude...

Check out the new p-name...


Metz

Meg.

Is she the one that Joel wants (the one that was in the plane episode with
him?)

I never watch this show.  Sounds like I ought to start, eh?


'Saw

They want and hate each other at the same time....This season the show hasn't
focused at all on the Joel - Maggie thing. I'm glad because it seems like all
the show go downhill once the two stars finally get together (Moonlighting,
Cheers) 

you should watch it 'Saw. It's the best show on TV. 

Metz

I'll check it out nexted Monday night.

Lately, because Monday nights are a gym night, I've been going to bed
early (like between 9:45 and 10pm).

I'll have to make ane exception....


'Saw

 I've been bringing my LA Law write-ups home with me on Fridays for Cindy
 to read and lasted Friday she finally said ...
 
     "You know, I've been meaning to ask you ... What's this 'nexted' and
     'lasted' stuff ???   You don't write like that."
 
 How exactly does one explain RCASO-ese to the uninformed ???   I gave it
 my bestest effort but I basically ended up telling her it was just an
 inside joke and not TOO BLAM me for it.
 
 Bob Hunt

> How exactly does one explain RCASO-ese to the uninformed ???   I gave it
> my bestest effort but I basically ended up telling her it was just an
> inside joke and not TOO BLAM me for it.
 
Bob,

You do it in the same inimitable fashion you use to relate the LA Law
happenings to us.

You sit your lovely wife down, perhaps to a candle-light dinner you've
prepared yourself, and begin thusly:


	"Long ago, and far away, in a notes file yet unheard of by
	the uninitiated, there noted a fellow by the name of RCASO..."


Then just spin the yarn.  Embellish it a little to see if you can't get
some "oohs and ahs" of delight from her.


When you're all done spinning the yarn, I'll be she won't BLAM you
for anything.....



hth,
'Saw

Given they introduced him as the local chimmy sweep perhaps they paln to
bring him back? Like that outdoorsy guy who's the great chef?

mike

 Bob just go back into the archives and dig up a few of his treasures....

You mean Adam (who happens to be married to Eve)? I think they always intended
Adam as a recurring role because they cast a relatively big name (alan arkin)
for the role. 

The Chimney sweep appeared to be a one shot deal. 

We'll see I suppose,


 Metz

    
    I thought the chimney sweep moved to Greenland?  It's a helluva commute
    if he's gonna have a recurring role.
    
    Bruce  (who changed his P-name before Metz, but was in RON-mode)

Bob, I am TEARWARD on that one, big guy.

You're right.  I never thought about what it would be like with the
MicroHunts in the house.

I was thinking that perhaps the neighbors or the in-laws had them for
the evening...


Too funny.  

But, now I have a completely accurate picture of what my life could be
like in a few years!


'Saw

    re .209
    
    Bob, you slay me ... ever think about subbing for Dave Barry ?
    
    But I MUST ask ya - "Holy Hand Grenades ?" 
    
    I must have missed that episode of Batman - or is it in the sequel
    movie ? :-)
    
    Doc

    
    I hear ya, Bob-- but I doubt it's as bad as having the baby as a
    brother to two older sisters!
    
    glenn
    

    
    The best show on TV is Seinfeld.  1/2 hour of laughing as hard as you
    can.  Brilliant.
    
    Northern Exposure is pretty darn good too.  
    
    JD

I used to religiously watch Batman as a kid.  And then when it went off
I stopped.

Years later, when it became available in syndication in our area, I thought
to myself "What a bunch of hambone actors!  What a trite little show".

I then proceeded to sit down and watch as many episodes as I could....


'Saw

    
    >I used to religiously watch Batman as a kid.  And then when it went off
     I stopped.
    
    Well, that makes sense, I guess.  I supposed the folks would have been 
    pretty worried had you continued to watch Batman when it wasn't even
    on.
    
    Dickstah
    

Ask Walt about watching Batman - a regular thing while in college.

He completed the first ever statistical analysis and breakdown of the
"Biff KaBow" effects.  I forget which one was used the most.  It ranked
right up there with his review of "Roller Boogie." 

My favorite - "Zowie"

Mike

    Ditto SAw.
    
    I was pretty addicted as a kid, like the MicroHunts ... now I laugh at
    how serious I used to take the Bat Nuclear Defogger, the BAt Shark
    Repellent, or Bat Charges ...
    
    But for the life of me, I still caint figure out how they could read
    those punchcards by the hole patterns ....God knows I tried hard enough
    in my freshman year ! :-) :-) :-)

    
    	Penguin ROOLZ!  "wak wak wak...."
    
    	Claybroon

>    	Penguin ROOLZ!  "wak wak wak...."
>    
>    	Claybroon


Actually, the stars they had to play those parts were pretty good.

The Catwoman was Julie Newmar, who in her day was quite a hot lady.
Eartha Kitt played Catwoman later, but I didn't really like her (her
voice gave me the creeps).

Burgess Merideth played the Penguin, long before he became Mickey
to Stallone's Rocky.

Frank Gorshin was the Riddler.  I didnt' like the Riddler character,
but I really did like Groshin's stand up routine and impressions.


One of the first Batman episodes I saw had a villain who could not
stand warmth.  He had to be cold, and he lived in a place where he
could keep sections freezer cold.  He had Batman and Robin trapped
in one section of warmth, surrounded by cold.

Anyone else remember that episode????


'Saw

    Wasn't/isn't the announcer for Batman the same guy who does
    "Rocky and Bullwinkle"?
    
    William "Cannon" Conrad?
    
    Kev
    

    Saw -
    
    ANother villian was Ceasar Romero.  
    
    JD
    
    Kev -
    
    ROcky and Bullwinkle roolz!  My all-time all-time favourite show!  I've
    received all the videos as presents from my wife and sister and nephews
    and nieces.   Classics.  ALl of them.
    
    JD

    > One of the first Batman episodes I saw had a villain who could not
    > stand warmth.  He had to be cold, and he lived in a place where he
    > could keep sections freezer cold.  He had Batman and Robin trapped in
    > one section of warmth, surrounded by cold.

    > Anyone else remember that episode????
    
    Yep...villian was Mr. Freeze, can't remember who played him.
    
    A couple other big names who played villians on Batman: Cesar Romero as
    the Joker, Vincent Price as Egghead.
    
    
    py 

      A few other Batman villains were Vincent Price as Egghead, Cesar 
     Romero as the Joker,  and Shelly Winters as Ma Parker. When I was
     five or six Batman was THE show. We used to tie towels around our 
     necks for capes and pretend we were the caped crudaders. One of my
     friends got a little carried away and tried to jumd down a whole 
     flight of stairs and broke his arm.
       
    

    SHane
    
    King Tut
    
    The Mad Hatter
    
    Dr. Freeze
    
    The Joker
    
    The Penguin
    
    Cat Woman
    
    The man with the Thousand faces...

    I still have the 'Batman and Robin' LP.  It had, of course, the Bat
    Theme.  But also a bunch of other songs like "Penguin's theme", etc..
    
    Really bad - but worth it.
    
    ANyone else belong to the original batman fan club?  I still have most
    of the stuff - including the plastic mug with the Batman and RObin
    decal on it.  
    
    JD

>
>      A few other Batman villains were Vincent Price as Egghead, Cesar 
>     Romero as the Joker,  and Shelly Winters as Ma Parker. When I was
>     five or six Batman was THE show. We used to tie towels around our 
>     necks for capes and pretend we were the caped crudaders. One of my
>     friends got a little carried away and tried to jumd down a whole 
>     flight of stairs and broke his arm.


We did the same stuff.  We even cut out bat-shapes out of wood, drilled
a hole, attached a rope, and it was that bat-rope.  Fortunately we
never tried scaling the side of anything with it!




Speaking of series, I saw the complete four movie set of Flash Gordon
available recently.  When I was a kid in 1st grade, I'd rush home
from school to see the 15 minute segment they would show.  I loved
Flash Gordon....


'Saw       
    

>    I still have the 'Batman and Robin' LP.  It had, of course, the Bat
>    Theme.  But also a bunch of other songs like "Penguin's theme", etc..

Amen, brother!

I've got that too.  Well, my folks do, I'm sure.


I've also got a Hogan's Heroes LP.  Funny thing is that there are a 
couple of great tunes on their from the WWII period.  Ivan Dixon (who
played Kinchloe) does a great rendition of "Shoo Shoo Baby", and 
Richard Dawson does a really good version of "A Nightengale Sang in
Berkeley Square".


Lotsa old stuff around from when I was a kid...


'Saw

Otto Preminger played Mr. Freeze.

Roddy McDowell was Bookworm.

Lee Merriwether also played Cat Woman, I think.

Mike

    How is Seinfeld live?  He's coming to ASU next month and I'm wondering
    if he's worth it.

    There was also:
    
              Doctor Somnomula (sp?)
              Shame (Cliff Robertson)
              Queen of Diamonds (Mortisha from Addams family TV show)
              The Siren (Joan Collins)
              False Face
              Green Hornet
              Mr Fogg (they went to London for that episode)
              Louie the Lilac (Milton Berle)
              Liberace payed a good twin/evil twin character.
              
    
    The Riddler was played by Frank Gorshin AND Fred Astin (Gomez from Addams
    Family)
    
    King Tut was Victor (?) Bono
    

John Astin was Gomez, mon frere....8^)

    
    Don Pardo

    
    Isn't he the answer to all announcer trivia questions?

    Batman?  Me?  What are you talking about?  Not that sadistics project
    I did...

    .222
    
    Ah, the cool, cruel, Mr Freeze ....
    
    I thought that Ceasar Romero was a perfit physical fit for the Joker
    (if you are a comics fan like me), tall, lean, long chin, big mouth.
    Jack nicholsen was the perfect psychological fit ....
    
    Frank Gorshin was another fav nut ....

    Mr. Hunt, you're slipping.
    
    Is there a L.A. LAW report for lasted Thursday??????
    
    JaKe
    

 Slip this, JaKe.   I cain't report on what I didn't see.   If someone else
 saw the episode and would care to sum it up for us, we'd all be grateful.  
 If not, then maybe we'll catch it again on reruns.
 
 Bob Hunt

       Jist make somrthing up Bob, if they didn't see it, how'll they
    know?!
                                         Denny

Well, I can't do as well as Bob, and this is totally from memory, but
here goes.


Okay, three story lines that I remember:

First, you've got Stuart and Ann.  Stuart is on Cloud Nine because
Susan Bloom (or whatever her name is) has set up an appointment with him
to do some financial work for this old time movie star.  Turns out this
babe (not as hot as Irene Ryan) was one of Stuart's favorites when he
was younger.  He was wickedly in love with her.

But, unfortunately, Ann has to go to this AIDS benefit and she was planning
on going with Stuart.  Stuart obviously is booked up, so he suggests
that Ann and the Nanny (Matthew???) go together.  Ann doesn't want to impose,
the Nanny is already in woodie-time as Stuart gives Ann a dozen reasons
why it's good.

Ann says "It's black tie", and ol' Matthew (I'm gonna call him that whether
or not the name is right) says "Well, my roomie is a Maitre d', so I can
borrow his tux"....

So, off goes Stuart to see the old movie star, and off goes Ann to the
black tie affair with Matthew.


Meanwhile, back that the ranch, Tommy is helping this East LA lawyer with
a class action suit against the Big Chemical Company.  Seems that the 
company found out that their pesticide Zanex caused sterility in rats
and they took it off the US market.  However, they dumped it on poor third
world countries, one of which happened to be Guatemala.  So, down goes the
Zanex to Guatemala, and after a while down goes the sperm count of the
workers using it.  Four hundred of the workers are now sterile.

Tommy gets involved after the appeals court has ruled that the case CAN
be heard in the US.  So, they go after the Big Chemical Company.



Okay, switch back to Stuart.  He meets this old actress, who is living
in the grand style in this huge old house, full of memorabilia.
She's gonna donate to someplace or other, and Stuart walks down memory
lane with her a little.  He sees one dress and asks what movie it was
from, and the old babe tells him it was supposed to be her wedding dress
but he guy she was hot for wouldn't leave his wife.  She laments losing
her true love and asks Stu if he has a true love. He says yes with
stars in his eyes.  Nexted thing we know, the old babe is pulling a zillion
years worth of receipts out of shoes boxes.  You know Stuart is in for it.


Meantime, Ann and Matt get to the hotel for the gala AIDS banquet (gee, 
I wonder if Magic is supposed to be there?)  Anyway, they find out they
are a night light.

Properly embarrassed they head back to Stuart and Ann's house for some 
dinner (all while Stuart is still with the old movie star babe).

Well, they're cooking in the kitchen and ol' Matt takes the opportunity
to lay a liplock on Ann.  She gets all flustered, tells him she's married
and off he goes.

Next morning, Ann is lamenting to Stuart that Matt has a crush on her.
Personally, I think she is covering her ass.  But anyway Stuart thinks
it's cute and says to ignore it.


Meanwhile back at the court, Tommy and his East LA lawyer partner are
fighting it out in court.   The upshot is that scientific tests require
TWO species to develop the same symptoms before a drug can be banned.

Early on all Tommy et al can muster is proof in rats.  It looks like
the chemical company is winning, when Tommy et al manage to get a hold
of a guy who was fired from the company.  He supposedly has proof.

They get him up on the stand and this guy tells the court that he
found evidence in rats AND rabbits.   Big recess.

Now, big Chemical company wants to settle with the Guatamalan guy, for
$12 million, but they want to expand the settlement to cover the entire
province, with a $2million fund for later health problems.  The Guatamala
guy says sure, and makes some excuse about how much money that is in their
country.


Meanwhile, back at the office, Matt comes in and apologizes to Ann for
being a stud with her, and asks that she not fire him.  She says everthing
is cool, and he can stay on.  Look for some torrid bedroom scenes between
Ann and her young stallion in the future.

Okay, now we cut to Stuart and Susan Bloom, and it turns out the old movie
babe is in hock up to her eyeballs.  Stuart has this old payment plan 
worked out for her to get her solvent again.

In comes the movie babe, and Stuart gives her the bad news.  He figures
he's gonna save her.  She says fooey on it, and tells him that she's gonna
go to the grave living like a star no matter how much in debt she is...


Okay, back to Tommy.  Tommy has called a meeting in the office.  Turns
out that some of the stuff that the Guatamala guy gave them concerning
health risks from the pesticide back in the province was incomplete.
Tommy contacted the Guatamalans and got a complete survey.  Turns out
the Zanex had infiltrated the water table, and that in the next 20 years
there was gonna be a time bomb.

They argue for a while and it turns out that the chemical company promise
the Guatamalan guy $1million to settle, so he kept the water stuff out
of the survey.  Turns out that Tommy gets like beaucoup bucks now and
lots more for later cases, to expand the settlement to the entire province.

After that, Tommy tells the East LA lawyer that the firm wants to hire him.


The last story line that i forgot is that Margaret Flanagan has been
really flakey lately.  Turns out she's been having these flashbacks.

Since that whole part was really hammy I'll sum it up in a sentence.

Turns out her father was molesting her sister, who killed herself, and
ol Margy is having flashbacks about Daddy dearest molesting her too.
Now she's going after him, and getting Frank Kitteridge to help.


That's it. 


sorry it ain't like Bob, but it'll have to do!


'Saw

    no Gwen?  :^(

 Thanks, 'Saw.  You did just fine.   Never apologize for your writing
 style.   RCASO never did, right ???
 
 Bob Hunt

With RCASO, how could you tell if he was apologizing?

Mike

    
    This weeks should be good...rating sweeps week ya know!
    
    B.A.
    

Read somewhere that Jimmy Smits is supposed to be back for one of the
February sweeps shows...


'Saw

    Uta  was played by Gates McFadden... I knew who she was right off the
    bat...
    
    Picard musta time-warped her back to 1992   :-}
    
    REK

    The NBC local affiliate's 11 o'clock news `arts & entertainment'
    reporter, Joyce Kulhawik, did a thing on the show afterwards, and she
    mentioned something about Bocchco(sp) being back and his successor
    being canned, along with the circus sideshow direction the show has 
    taken, to bring back that old flavor of the show.  I believe that this
    episode was the first of the "new/old" era.  I didn't see it, but Bob's
    wrap-up (again, thanks) certainly sounds like it...
    
    I wonder how much focus characters such as Susan Bloom are going to get
    under this new/old regime.  I expect probably not much (sorry Bob)...
    
    Hawk
    

Gates was great......

Gwen can take my deposition any time....


'Saw

    Gwen cain soothe my ailing ankles anytime...  :-)
    

>    Gwen cain soothe my ailing ankles anytime...  :-)


Unfortunately, Gwen does not fit the parameters of the "miracle cure".


But she did have some tix for sale......
    

    re .Bob
    
    "Sheet hockey" ?
    
    Rollward Bob ...

    Donde esta el reporto del L.A. Law?
    
    
    

    re.262
    
    Gesundheit!!!!
    
    JaKe
    

 Sorry, I did see the episode lasted night but it's been a hectic day here
 in the old workplace.  This'll have to be real short ...
 
 Leland's on a diet but he's the arbitrator between two lady chefs, one of
 whom is accusing the other of stealing recipes for a book soon to be
 published.   They agree to a bake-off to settle the dispute but the
 younger cook tries to bribe Leland with a gourmet meal the day before.  
 At the actual bake-off, they have a wild food fight.   Later the older
 cook puts a move on Leland and will be cooking him a lite meal at some
 date to come.
 
 Jonathan's mom and dad are in town and mom is an ACLU lawyer who
 disapproves of Zoey.  Dad (Robert Guillaume) got passed over for promotion
 at Econodyne and wants to press a discrim suit.   Jon digs into it and
 finds out that a black exec at the company had actually been responsible
 for shooting down lotsa qualified black exec wannabes in order to protect
 his own turf.   Jon's mom is slowly coming to grips with Zoey too.
 
 Frankie The K represented a woman who recently started having flashback
 nightmares about her father's sexual abuse habits when she was a kid.  She
 wants to press charges against her dad for driving her then 14-year-old
 sister to kill herself some 30 years ago.   The dad denies everything and
 the woman comes off as a real looney tune but the mom (married 50 years)
 digs up the dead sis's diary and the whole sordid past is thrown wide
 open.   Very painful closing scene ... the mom might just be hurting worst
 of all.
 
 Sorry for the brevity ... back to work.
 
 Bob Hunt
 
 P.S.  Someone else please handle nexted week ???   I'll be on da road.

The woman Frankie the K is representing is Margaret Flanagan.

She's a DA who went up against Mike Kusack (who was defending the black
professor accused of killing his young girlfriend).  Anyway the prof
got the gas chamber, and Mikey took Flanagan all the way to the STate
Supreme Court, where it came out she'd done something wrong about improper
notification of evidence or something....

'Saw

PS If I get to see it this week......

At the point in which the mother handed the daughter the "box" of memoirs the 
show was over. All too easy for L.A Law. This was like watching Snuffy Smith 
on Sunday make the false impression that the Tar Heels could beat Maryland.

Jeff 

    
    	Okusan-ga o-furo-o wakashite-imasu.
    
    
    
    
    (translation - His wife is preparing the bath)
    
    Hal Tried Hard(tm)
    
    Kev
    

    Ok, I thought of this last night, while I wasn't watching the repeat...
    
    What's so hot about Leland?  I mean he had that blonde yunngin after
    him a couple of years ago that he said was too young for him.  The
    Rox, then the little kiss with Grace, now the cook.  I may have missed
    another one in there.  I still can't figure Douglas and Vanna, but this
    is TV.  But anyway, what the hell is it that helps Leland bag these
    women?  Does he have the Venus Butterfly or whatever that was hidden
    in his office or something?
    

Maybe it's his schwantz.  Can I say that in here?

Okay, maybe its the fact that he's so fatherly.  I heard Cliff Claven say
one time that most women have an urge to be protected by a father figure...


8^)


PS  Cheers was a repeat last night, but I was rollward on the part where
    Norm was engrossed in the Barnaby Jones re-run, the one where Barnaby
    was disguised as a swinger, with hip-huggers, platform soles and gold
    chains.

    The mental image of Buddy Ebsen decked out like that almost made me
    pee my pants...


'Saw

    I cain answer that, Walt.  It's his balding haid, I know...
    
    HTH.
    
    Hawkanova
    

    >                     -< All over me like flies... >-
    
    Nah, never mind...
    
    Who were we comparing to Claven the other night?
    

       Did anyone else have trouble sitting still while the Dr. was talking
    to Arnie lasted night? As soon as they went to commercial I had to get
    up and walk around!
                                 Denny

Main, oh main....


I had me this awful bad time.   First, I was ready to shoot Arnie for turning
down the blonde babe.  Rox is chopped liver compared to her.   Then Arnie
gets his torsion.

I could feel the bile rising in my throat.....oooooh, doncha hate when that
happens?


Reminds me of the time I FORCED myself to watch the vasectomy on Lifetime
Channel.....


'Saw

 I was a DNP on LA Law lasted night.  Anybody wanna take a crack at doing
 the rundown thang ???   I'd appreciate it ...
 
 Bob Hunt

I caught parts of it here and there.  I'll try to peench hit for my main
main BobHunt.....


Okay, at some point this kid (late teens) walks in and drops a bomb on
Stuart that she's his kid...  They have some kind of a meeting in which
Ann is involved.  [I didn't see this part, but ascertained it from
what was said later in the show].   Anyway, the kid ends up leaving.
Important point is the kid says the mom is dead.


Jonanthan is trying a case.  Seems this doctor or researcher is doing
some research and is using data from the Nazi Hypothermia experiments
on inmates at Dachau.  Some old Dachau survivor (played by Theodore Bikel)
is trying to stop her.


Missed a lot of the leadup to Arnie, but it seems he's doing some kind
of research with this TV news babe.


Okay, we see Jonathan trying his case in court and everyone is arguing
about it.   I'm trying to place the guy who played the opposing lawyer
but I can't.  I know I've seen him in another TV series but can't remember
which one...


Okay, next scene I remember is Ann and Stuart in bed talking about this
kid.  Evidently when the kid walked out of the office she recanted her
claim.   But Stuart KNOWS she's his daughter.  Ann asks about Stuart
and the babe he got pregnant.  Stuart says he remembers becausee he's
never had that many women, and he says it was in 1974.  Ann says
"Didn't you believe in safe sex?".   Stuart pops back and says "Ann, 
in 1974 safe sex was making sure the car wasn't moving when you were
doing it in the back seat".

[Personal opinion]  Ann looked REALLY spent in this scene.  She was looking
old, and unless it was my TV (fairly new) she looked like she had some
serious mustache action going on on her upper lip....   He hair ain't that
great either....


Okay, cut back to Arnie.  Arnie is in the TV babes house, and the research
has something to do with sex fantasies.  The TV babe is telling Arnie her
fantasy, and throwing a Joe Montana quality pass at him.   Arnie is tempted,
and personally I was at abouty 9.1 on the Wood-o-meter myself.

All of a sudden, Arnie gets this big GLOB of conscience, and tells her that
he lives with someone he loves and that he can't do it.   The babe says
that's turning her on even more....

Arnie says NO, jumps up, slips a little, then screams.   The babe thinks
it's his back, but he says "no, it's my left testicle."

Seems that every time his left testicle hits the inside of his thigh he
goes through the roof.


Cut back to Jonathan trying his case...(BORING)


Cut back to Stuart.  He goes to the kids house.  Mom (the dead one)
answers the door.  Actually, the Mom was a lot better looking that Ann, 
and I think Stuart should have made a few Joe Montana moves of his own,
but anyway, he gets the whole story about the kid (who was hideously
ugly btw) and she's there, and it gets pretty sappy.

Cut back to Arnie in the ER.  The doctor comes in, palpates his scrotum,
Arnie goes throught he ceiling, and the doc says "Arnie, you've got
a torsion.  That's where the little sperm vessel that the testicle hangs
on gets all TWISTED up and hurts like hell.  We'll just go in there
and move the testicle until it untwists."

(Before this happened, Rox showed up, but the TV babe was still there,
and Rox got really jealous... Rox looked more and more like chopped livere
when she was next to the TV Babe.  the TV Babe left when Rox got there,
giving Arnie a look like "THAT'S what you turned ME down for?.   I'm sitting
there going "Right on TV Babe!")

So, the doc tells Arnie he has to cut him open, Arnie gets all worried and
the doc says, there's nothing to it, except that maybe the torsion cut
off the circulation and the testicle got gangrene and we might have to
remove it...

arnie is all worried.


Cut back to Jonathon who has this heart to heart talk with the old Jewish
guy and goes in to find out he won the case (boring).

Cut back to Arnie in the hospital bed, apres operation, and he's telling
Rox all about this BIG GLOB of conscience he had.  Rox is skeptical,
but Arnie is insisting.

At that point I had to grab the airsick bag, because Arnie turned down the
TV babe for Rox.

At the end of the show, Rox is at the end of the bed being skeptical,
and Arnie, who's legged it propped up, starts caressing her with his
foot.  Rox says Don't push it, and Arnie moves his toe might near Rox's
br___t, and then it ends.   Time for the bag again....



That's it in a (torsioned) nutshell....


'Saw

Just placed the opposing lawyer.  He played Richard Grieco's boss in the
short lived FOX series "Booker"....


'Saw

Quick note on the Johnathan case.

The heart to heart with the old Jewish guy apparently hit a chord with Johnathan.

The lasted scene of the show had the old guy at some kind of memorial service.
There was a room full of older Jewish men, and they had a Torah out.  In strolls
Johnathan, looking serious, and gives the old guy a nod, which he returns.

=Bob=

Oh yeah, I just caught that as I came back inside from bringing the dog in....


Arnie's torsion definitely made the night.  That and Ann looking like
something that washed up on shore after a shipwreck...


'Saw

    That torsion thang gave me the willies...
    
    The show started with some sleezeball lawyer coming into talk to Stuart
    and slapped him with a paternity suit.  After the commercial, Ann and
    Stuart talk about it and meet with the kid saying there's no way she's
    gonna trap Stuart out of a cent.  The meeting comes and Ann almost
    immediately says "She's your daughter".  Arnie (Stuart's lawyer for
    this) and Stuart tell Ann more or less to shut up.  Ann keeps going
    about how she's going to tell Matthew he has a sister and the girl
    says "He's not my father, sorry..."  and walks out.  Stuart's follow up
    was to talk to her to find out why and that's when he saw her mom.
    The daughter said the mom was too proud to ask for help and figured
    this was the best way to get it.  When she saw how much trouble she
    would cause, she backed out.

 You mean you folks still watch this trash? Just from reading these updates
 I can see this show has gone way way down hill....

 anyways on a positive note Nothern Exposure was just reward with an unheard
 of 2 year/50 shows extension.....wahooo!!!!!!!

 now if we could just get a few more shows featuring Ed and Maurice we'd
 be cookin'...

 mike

    Mike -
    
    Re Your p_name.  The origianl Temps (with Kendricks and Ruffin) blew
    the tops away.  However, over time, the Tops were better, due to
    personnel changes and stage effects (;-)
    
    JD

I've become a Northern Exposure convert.  

Last night was great with Leonard, Bonnie's(?) cousin.  He was observing
Joel, and ended up helping out Shelly who had this megabad skin problem.
It was great.


Maggie(?) fell for some mountain man they wanted you to think was really
a bear.....  (I know I wasn't on LSD when I was watching, so what do you
all think?)

Maurice was pissed off about Spring, but I really got into it when he and
Ed (the dumb guy?) were cleaning out his attic and they found some bagpipes
and a Black Watch kilt...


I really do like the radio guy.  What had he been in prison for anyway?


Can't wait for nexted week.....  The ONLY good think about a Monday is
Northern Exposure!


'Saw

    Chris, the radio guy did hardtime for drug peddlin.  A couple of weeks
    ago when they had the show about electing a mayor, Chris told Ed why
    he couldn't vote - convicted felon's lose all sorts of rights.
    
    HTH!
    
    Kev
    

>Maurice was pissed off about Spring, but I really got into it when he and
>Ed (the dumb guy?) were cleaning out his attic and they found some bagpipes
>and a Black Watch kilt...

I wouldn't really call Ed 'dumb' per se, he's seems quite enlightened to me.  
Maybe somewhat ignorant to lots of things, but dumb - nahh.

>I really do like the radio guy.  What had he been in prison for anyway?

When he explained why he couldn't vote to Ed, he said he was a convicted felon 
for jumping bail.  He didn't say anything at that time about drug dealing, was 
this in an earlier episode?

Scott_another_NE_fan

>I wouldn't really call Ed 'dumb' per se, he's seems quite enlightened to me.  
>Maybe somewhat ignorant to lots of things, but dumb - nahh.

Yes.  You're right.  I was remiss in calling Ed dumb.  That's the way
someone described him to me.

He reminds me in a lot of ways of Ted, from Bill and Ted's Excellent 
Adventure.  But he's smarter.  He's just walking to the beat of a 
slightly different drummer.

A slighty different yet REFRESHING drummer....


'Saw

    
    I find Law & Order to be much more entertaining and realistic than
    this seasons LA Law.  Bet the law students love it for all the techno-law 
    verbiage that gets thrown about, too.  If you really need a court 
    fix every week, check it out.  
    
    LA Law is definetly la-la-land these days... However, Bob Hunt's
    updates are still entertaining (probably more so than the show).  
    
    /Jeff
    

    No Law recap?
    

Sorry, Walt ... I had the dish pointed at the bird carrying the games.

Bob Hunt

Okay.


The show opens with Arnie in the shower.  Rox is yelling at him to hurry
up.  Arnie, feeling randy, invites Rox in.  Rox takes off her robe and
preceeds to get in.

[I missed a bit at that point as I reached down for the strategically
placed paper bag, and paused to hurl]


When I looked up, Rox is soaping Arnie up, and she skillfully grabs his
tes-ti-kals.  He gets this look on his face like "oh-oh, I'm in deep doo-doo"
and she asks him if anything happened.  

He swears on his still-healing-gonads that NOTHING happened with the TV babe.
Then he says "you can let go".  At that point, Rox must've shifted her
grip and decided to check out the Arnie Becker Pure Pork Sausages because
he says "Maybe you don't have to".

Next scene, Grace is watching her client, a young stud baseball player,
take a polygraph test about whether or not he raped this girl.  He passes.
Now, it's not admissible as evidence, but Grace SKILLFULLY lets it be
known to the press that the kid passed.


Okay, now we're in the morning meeting, and they're yelling at the young
attorney that Tommie brought into the firm.  Seems that they want him
to plead out the cocaine dealer that he's defending.  Young guy says that
the police took some evidence without a warrant, but that the judge has
overruled his motion for non-admittance of it as evidence.  They tell him
to plead it out, a little more emphatically.  The kid says the DA won't
listen.

When they finish with the kid, Holier-Than-Thou Ann is castigating Grace
for taking the case, saying that the kid definitely HAD to have raped the
girl.

Anyway, they're arguing, and Arnie comes in.  They welcome him back to the
two, obligatory testicle remarks -- Tommy say's Arnie's being testy, and
Douglas says that he hopes Arnie is on the ball.


Okay, after that, Tommy and someone are walking down the hall, and Tommy
hears the young lawyer talking to his client.  The client is saying how
he has a friend that is willing to bribe the judge for 50.  Tommy gets
a concerned look on his face....

They cut to the scene in the office with the cocaine guy and the young
lawyer.  The young guy is telling Mr Cocaine that he is an officer of the
court and that he can't bribe someone, or even know about it.  They go round
and round a bit, and finally the young dude says "Look, let me feel out this
contact of yours.  Let me take care of it"


Okay, now we cut to Stuart and Ann.  Stuart is gonna give Sarah a job there
so he can get to know her.  Ann is really upset about it.

[I had to pause here too and hurl some more.  Ann is looking as spent as
 a four-day old used condom that's sat in the sun in a parking lot]

Okay, so Stuart calms her down.



Cut to Arnie, in a makeup chair in the TV studio.  He's getting made up and
the TV babe comes in.  She's all concerned about his "injury" and he puts
her at ease, and is glad she realizes that Rox is his squeeze.   She understands
alright...


Okay, cut to the rape trial, where the DA is skillfully eliciting the story
of the rape from the fair young (baseball groupie) maiden.   Grace gets
up and destroys her by questioning why she waited so long to report the rape.


We cut back to the young lawyer, now entering a coffee shop and talking
to the seedy looking guy.   They strike up a deal whereby, if the judge is
interested in the bribe, he will give a sign of good faith by reconsidering
the motion.   


Now back to the office, where the incredibly ugly Sarah (Stuart's daughter in
real life) is gonna be going to work.  Stuart is getting her a smorgasbord
of office supplies in the copy room, and has a desk set up for her.  Already
she's complaining about how much work there is.  

Benny comes in and wonder's why the paper shredder has been moved from
where her desk now is, to near the mail slots.  He says he's worried about
important mail falling into it.  She says unplug it.   You can see there's
gonna be trouble here before long....

Back to the rape trial.  Grace is doing pretty good.  This segment was
pretty stock.  I mean, I could almost recite the lines before they came out.



Back to the courtroom with the young lawyer and the cocaine guy.  The judge
all of a sudden decides to reconsider the motion to not admit the evidence.
The young lawyer has his sign.....

He and the coke dealer go into the conference room, and the coke dealer
is really pushing to bribe the judge.  He offers to cut in the young lawyer.
The young lawyer refuses vehemently, and says that he has to go to the DA.

The coke dealer pulls out a badge and says "You just did".   The whole thing
was a setup to get at the dirty judge.   The young laywer goes downtown
and gets ready to chew the DA a new orifice, but she persuades him to give
the money (50K) to the seedy character.....  He reluctantly agrees...


Back to the office.  Stuart has just bought his daughter a book on
Ancient History, her major.  He's all talking it up and blabbing and
he mentions that for him, history came alive when he travelled.  She said
she hadn't ever travelled and  he said that he would give her her junior
year abroad, like his father did for him.   She blows up at him about him
not being her father, at least not one that knows about her.


Cut to the rape trial where Grace has another ball player on the stand
who testifies that he saw the sex incident and that he thought it was 
rape.  Grace is doing her best to destroy his testimony, including bringing
out that he is a rather judgemental Christian fellow, but the guy gets in
a good shot at the end about how guys like her client give baseball a
bad name.   She decides she's got to put the ballplayer on the stand.


Okay, now out to a restaurant where the TV babe has invited Rox for lunch.
She apologizes to Rox for hurting her feelings, and gives a little speech
about how she always get what she wants, and that she usually doesn't care
who she hurts.  This time she realized that she hurt Rox and was upset,
and (get this) "nothing like that will ever happen again".

Rox says "Arnie said nothing happened".  TV Babe replies "Well, after the
seduction nothing happened".....   Rox leaves in tears.


Meanwhile, back in the office, Jonathan is helping Grace prep her witness
for cross examination.   Not to drag this out, as the guy explains what
happens, he is explaining an outright case of rape, but he didn't realize
that's what it was.  Now Grace can't put him on the stand....


Okay, now Sarah is leaving, and Ann [excuse me....hurl, hurl, hurl] confronts
her for leaving so early while she (Ann) still needs a report, and while
Stuart is still working.  Sarah says that she'd have been done if Stuart
hadn't been interfering.

Ann reads her the riot act about how Stuart is good and kind and thoughtful
and an Eagle Scout and smart and good in bed (well, a few of those things)
and that Sarah should be giving some too.....


[I forgot to mention an earlier scene where Benny and Sarah have a fight.
Papers get scattered all over.....]


Cut to Tommy, who is really worried that his young friend is going down the
wrong path.  Tommy confronts him and says that he spoke up for him to get
him hired, and if he messes up, he slaps Tommy in the face.  

The guy tells Tommy to butt out....



Okay, back to the rape trial.  Grace doesn't put the guy on the stand, 
they close, and go to commercial.


Next we see the young lawyer go to court.  Tommy is in the audience.
The judge calls the lawyers up, and tells them he has reconsidered the
motion, and will NOT allow the evidence to be admitted.  (He's gotten the 50K
obviously).    All of a sudden the police come in with the DA and they
arrest the judge.

Tommy tells the young lawyer that he owes him an apology...



Meantime, back in the rape trial, the jury acquits the guy, but Grace tells
him that he needs help and she'll give him the names of some counselors....

Later, Grace shows up at the victory party to give this guy the list.
He's wrapped around four or fives babes, doing a Mike Tyson, and Grace gives
him the list.  He says "We're going on a road trip tomorrow, but when I get
back in town maybe I'll look them up."  She knows it's hopeless, and as the
scene ends, the ballplayer has a handful of young buttocks.


The final scene for the night is Rox, packing up.   Arnie comes in wondering
what's going on.  She tells him.  He SWEARS nothing happens.  Rox says that
she's lied for him for 12 years, and that she knows that something did
happen.

She leave, and the scene fades to black.





This show is really sipping these days.  Ann is like hideously ugly, Rox
looks spent, and Sarah ain't doing anything for the Babe Index except
causing it to plummet.

The TV Babe is a saving grace but we don't get to see enough of her...


Gwen has been non-existent and she was about the only thing  I was interested
in....




Hope that helps.  Again, it's not like Bob's, but it'll do for a pinch-hitter...

    How long before Arnie and the TV babe go out?  Think he's quit the
    TV job over this?  I see a Sam-Diane, fight to drive up the passion
    score scene coming, I hope I'm wrong.  I thought it was ironic they
    showed the rape case this week with the Tyson and Mets stuff going on.
    Wonder why they didn't have a black player for that trial... 
    
    Stuart's kid is a brat and the only thing I can see for bringing her in
    is that Ann gets pissed and maybe something happens with the nanny.
    
    Something's got to happen with CJ soon too...

Yeah, No Shows that past two weeks have been:


		Gwen  (sigh)
		Kitteridge
		Susan Bloom
		Leland (just the boardroom scenes)


BTW, Susan Bloom is played by Conchata Ferrell.  Now, I thought I remembered
this name from a series a long while ago, but the name doesn't bring back
any particularly large memories.  Does anyone know anything about this
lady, and if she got larger recently....



I'll try to put in a Northern Exposure report on Monday night, unless
Bob beats me to it...


'Saw

    Saw Bonnie Bartlett on Linda Lavin's new show, so it doesn't appear
    she'll be hanging out with Leland for any length of time.  She was
    the caterer offering to whet his palette...

    Saw - I sw  the Susan Bloom person on some show a few weeks ago - twas
    a rerun.  She played a maid - but was the same character as she is in
    LA Law.
    
    JD

>The show opens with Arnie in the shower.  Rox is yelling at him to hurry
>up.  Arnie, feeling randy, invites Rox in.  Rox takes off her robe and
>preceeds to get in.

Who's this randy person and how did they all fit in the shower together??

    Isn't that Conchita lady the EYEtalian Stripper/Legislator?

    
Now I gots a coupla questions.
    
    Isn't the TV babe the same babe who "bought" Arnie at an auction in an
    episode a few years ago and handcuffed him to the bed to get her $5g
    worth out of him???
    
    
>>Cut to the rape trial where Grace has another ball player on the stand
>>who testifies that he saw the sex incident and that he thought it was 
>>rape.  Grace is doing her best to destroy his testimony, including bringing
>>out that he is a rather judgemental Christian fellow, but the guy gets in
>>a good shot at the end about how guys like her client give baseball a
>>bad name.   She decides she's got to put the ballplayer on the stand.
    
    Was it just me or did anybody else think of Oral Herschiser when this
    guy was on the stand???
    
    
    JaKe
    

That's who it was I was thinking of!  


I kept sitting there thinking "This guy reminds me of someone...."


thanks Jake!


'Saw

I got's to ask a question of you fine fellows. I started watching LA LAW after 
the most excellent reports written by Mr. Bob Hunt  this show is somewhat 
entertaining and the reports add a excellent synopsis of the Thursday evening
events. 

Now some of you people have been suggesting "Northern Exposure" these folks are
in Alaska where men out number the Wimmon  about 7-1 and this very foxy babe, 
even though she wears a "butch" haircut cain only sleep with animals ?

Lasted week it was a bear and this week it was a dog. Come on beastiality 
after Murphy Brown, that is sick! I'm suprised that Andy Rooney hasn't done a 
segment around this issue. 

Didya ever wonder why a lady in Alaska would sleep with a bear ?


Maybe I should move this to the Ask Jake note. 

Jeff

    And don't fergit Jeff, that Northern Exposure is filmed right here in
    the very mainly manly man's man of a state, Washington.   Heck, it is
    filmed fairly close  to Seattle - where the biggest treesyou ever seen
    are in Seattle, the prettiest girls you ever seen are in Seattle, lots
    of trees, growing wild, lots of girls strutting wild, lots of trees and
    lots of girls, and everyone knows your name in Seattle...sorry, got
    carried away ;-)
    
    Jd

Actually, Northern Exposure was great this week.

That girl (Maggie?) doesn't do much for me, but man, Ed's film was
great, and the way Ed was pen-pals with Woodie and Steven and all the
other directors... 

Too funny.


I like Shelley, the girl from the bar, even if she is half-a-bubble 
off-center, and Maurice is too funny.


'Saw - the latest convert

    twas a repeat and since I saw it the first time, I passed it up
    this time.
    
    great show thought
    
    Kev
    

 yeah Kev, but a repeat was better than watching ND steal one....

  :^)

 Saw wait till you catch Adam the world's greatest chef....

 mike

> Saw wait till you catch Adam the world's greatest chef....
>
> mike


I've seen bits of him -- like when he was stressed out and blew up
at the other cook in the bar.  (He sounds just like a guy I play
rugby with).

He's married to Eve, who is pregnant, right????


I like Chris....


'Saw

You got it saw...

Actually the only character I can't stand is Shelly. Unfortunately they've 
been concentrating way too many stories on she and Holling this season. I 
wish they'd show more Ed, Maurice and Ruth-Anne stuff.

Supposedly the season Finale is going to go back in time to show the founding
of Cicely, Alaska by two women, Cicely and Roslyn. Each actor will be playing
another character from the past....

Sounds pretty good....


 Metz

 I like your choice of feature characters there Metz, also Maryln's cool too.
 I did like the episode though where Wayne came back...The kid who played
 Wayne sure did a great job with the character....1

 mike 

Tomorrow night's episode of "LA Law" could be an all-timer.  Susan Bloom is 
getting married to some huge Russian hunk-o-beef.

Bob Hunt

    I hope he reduces her to ash on the wedding bed ...

       Must be hitchin' up wif her in a citizenship scam!
                                 Denny

 Sorry, I sorta missed the firsted half of the show lasted night.   Susan
 Bloom did indeed marry some Russian dude but, at the end, we saw that it
 was one of those "green card" marriages of convenience and that Bloom was
 as alone as always.   Sad ending.
 
 Best part during the wedding scene was the instant national woody Gwen
 perked up when she used her best Debra Winger voice and huskily whispered
 to Frankie The K that she was 'available' right then and there.   We've
 been predicting that little tryst since Day 1 of this season.  Either your
 humble scribe is gifted with Jeanne Dixon-ish powers of foresight or the
 plot lines in good ol' SoCal are getting a little too predictable.   Yeah,
 you got that right.
 
 Dougie's brat boy and Benny's ward sipped the booze and bubbly outta all
 the unattended glasses at the wedding and get trashed much to Dougie's
 horror.
 
 Leland sorta rescued the new kid attorney who helped bag the crooked
 judge.  Seems as though the other judges were blackballing the kid and ol'
 Leland stepped in and recorded the save with a nicely worded threat to one
 judge in particular that he'd see to it his future promotions dried up big
 time.
 
 Rox dumped Arnie who, in your scribe's opinion, has never looked sorrier. 
 I have no idea what bozo on the writing staff came up with the idea of
 watering down Arnold Becker over a two-season period because this is
 pathetic.   The man who championed the Babe Of The Week Parade and gave
 hope to sleazeball stud wannabes across the nation is now just a shriveled
 shell who gives impotence a healthy glow.  If I see one more pouty, just
 about to cry, tight-lipped look from this ex-rake, I think I'm gonna hurl. 
 Arn needs babes.  Babes need Arn.  Just like the sun rises in the East.
 
 Ann and Stu have a new nanny but, wouldn't you know it, she's an illegal
 alien from some impoverished Central American banana republic.  Stu's
 long-lost daughter is still fumbling around at the office but, at the
 wedding, after Ann and baby rush in late following their little stay at
 INS, Stu's kid quiets a crying Matthew and Stu and Ann exchange those
 little looks of gee-whiz wonderment.  Guess she'll be the nexted nanny.   
 
 Aside: Ann's slippage is evident too.  She started the season in bad shape
 with a new 'do that looked like a reddish fop of shredded wheat but now
 she has that hard-edged, steely-eyed look that just begs to be called
 something that rhymes with "witch".   She and Stu need a Club Med vay-cay
 so she can rediscover the joys of womanhood, SoCal style.
 
 Zoey caught the bouquet but didn't look particulary thrilled about it. 
 She looks better each time we see her.
 
 As the season winds down, we oughta put some thoughts into our post-season
 awards.  Here are some categories and nominations to get things rolling.
 
 Most Valuable Player	... Susan Bloom, Tommy, Zoey, Grace VO
 Rookie Of The Year	... Susan Bloom, Frankie The K
 Most Improved Player	... Gwen Taylor, Jonathan
 Sophomore Slump	... CJ Lamb
 Mr Consistency		... Benny, Dougie, Stu
 Miss Congeniality	... Arnold Becker
 All-Whine-No-Shine	... Rox, Ann Kelsey
 Worst Animal Co-Star	... Leland with chimp
 Best Guest Comeback	... Victor
 Best Bad Guy		... Harvey the serial killer
 Most Outrageous Scene	... Leland and Susan Bloom in the ladies room
 
 Feel free to add nominees and/or categories.
 
 Bob Hunt

Great as usual Bob.

Ann is really sucking pond water these days.... to use a paraphrase an
expression my friends use: "I wouldn't diddle her with YOUR diddler"....


'Saw

    Ok, so who's son buys it this week?

 Advance previews said that Benny's "kid" does the DUI crash thing.  Also,
 the Russian hunk who married Susan Bloom has the hots for CJ.
 
 I'll have a write-up tomorrow.
 
 Bob Hunt

 This one was called "Love In Bloom" and was it ever !!!  Susan Bloom may
 have just nailed the door shut on the post-season award parade.   We saw
 her lasted week marrying Mikhail, some Russian hunk-o, in a marriage of
 convenience to keep him in the country.   
 
 We see this week, however, that the INS ain't buying it so quickly.  Both
 Susan and Mikhail (with CJ as counsel) visit a stuffed shirt at INS and
 proceed with a hearing of sorts to convince the Feds that love does indeed
 reign supreme in this (faux) marriage.  They're a pretty sly pair with
 most of the right answers to the questions but the INS guy is on the ball
 too and he requests separate follow-on hearings to come so that they can't
 tag team this thang.
 
 Mikhail shows up at CJ's place that night and tries out a couple of his
 "comrade" moves on her but CJ keeps her wits about her and ushers the
 Russian studski out the door.  Sometime later on we see Susan and Mikhail
 together in Susan's place going over all the little details and questions
 they think might come up in their INS hearings.  You know ... toothpaste
 flavor, laundry soap, last time they did the deed, and so on.   It's on
 this last topic of discussion that things get a little heated ...
 
 They agree to say they went parallel parking that very morning but then
 they start to embellish the story a la Penthouse Forum style with each one
 taking turns adding the next few lines to the dialogue ... And then I ...
 And then she ... And then we ... and so on.   Nexted thing you know it's
 tonsil tickle time and we fade out with the fire roaring in more places
 than just the fireplace.  More on this at the end ...
 
 Zoey has the courtroom drama case this week.  It's a fairly routine piece
 with just a little juice as Tommy would no doubt have said.  Rich bigshot
 businessman is driving the Jag home late one night after closing some mega
 deal, falls asleep at the wheel, and then runs up on the sidewalk and into
 a pile of garbage bags.  Hears a thump, gets out and looks, sees nothing
 and zooms off.
 
 Meanwhile, the poor homeless soul he ran over lays dying in the garbage. 
 Another homeless fella sees the whole thing happen and rings up the
 license plate number for the LA cops.  Zoey wants to bring felony
 manslaughter charges up against the guy but has to decide whether or not
 to accept a juicy plea bargain.  Apparently, Daddy Warbucks here will fund
 a homeless shelter (about $15 mill) if he's allowed to plead down to a
 misdemeanor.   Zoey says thanks but no and they go trial.
 
 Zoey's witness (the other homeless guy) is a bit shaky on some of the
 details of the accident scene and the rich guy is very convincing with his
 "I didn't see him ..." plea.  Midway through the trial, Zoey's boss, the
 DA, scolds her for not taking the condo-shelter deal.  Her boss is wrong
 though to substitute political gain for justice, Zoey feels, but her
 butt's on the line nevertheless.   The jury brings back a guilty verdict
 on the reckless misdemeanor but comes back free and clear on the felonies
 and the rich guy walks.   And then he announces to the press that he's
 going to have to rethink the shelter deal ... Zoey is in trouble.
 
 Dougie and Sheila's kid, Alex, and Benny's ward, Sam, are indeed whooping
 it up.  Seems as though Alex is quite the little saucemeister and he and
 Sam proceed to crack up a car and get a detour to the hospital for it. 
 Alex gets arrested for DUI, no license, and so on.  Sam is in deep yogurt
 'cause of his past history and his long-term stay at Casa Bennster is now
 in serious jeopardy.
 
 Dougie puts family before friends here and gets Alex a separate hearing
 apart from Sam.  The judge wants to lock Alex up in a juvee home but
 Dougie and Sheila convince the judge they'll look after him better now. 
 Benny's jeta are cooked, though.   The judge has seen enough and applauds
 Benny on the noble effort but breaks them up and returns Sam to the state
 child support authorities.  Benny is badly broken up over it and Dougie
 knows he didn't help Sam's cause by splitting him away from the real
 culprit, Alex.   They really have gotten max mileage outta Benny's
 character over the years.  Gotten give 'em credit for that.
 
 Ann and Stu try to convince Stu's daughter to stay on as nanny to Matthew
 but she's not up for it.  Ann visits her at her place and they start to
 form a friendship.  This was one of Ann's better moments this year.  True,
 she needed this girl to sit for her kid but she at least showed some
 empathy in asking so.   So that's settled ... Matt's got his fourth nanny
 of the season.  They oughta put a revolving door on the kid's nursery.
 
 And at the end, CJ comes to Susan with a surprised look on her face and
 wants to know why the INS canceled her hearing ???   A beaming Susan tells
 her, in between giggles, that she and Mikhail were doin' the hot and heavy
 when in burst the INS guy who musta been totally flabbergasted at that
 vision of love.   
 
 So that's all taken care of now.  CJ and Susan exchange some "way to go"
 high fives and some more schoolgirl giggles and we leave yet another
 outrageous Bloom scene ... It's over, folks.   Yes, I will admit it that
 your faithful scribe is guilty of hitching up an early bandwagon for the
 Bloomer-eenska back when the season started but, ya gotta admit, she's
 been a fun filly to watch in this horse race.  Never a dull moment and
 that scores beaucoup points on the POY scale for moi.
 
 See ya nexted week ...
 
 Bob Hunt

I pulled a Frank Way Barf-o-rama bag when Susan Bloom even started talking
lustful had to turn the channel to the fakers game. 

Jeff 
 

I missed the first quarter because I was catching the most excellent win
by Da Broons lasted night.


Bob, I agree, Ann was better, but she is still spent.  I'd rather spend a
night in a sardine packing plant where the air conditioner broke than to
spend it with Ann....


I had to admit that I really felt for Susan Bloom when that scene started.
After the close of the last episode, where you got to see that all of the
Susan Bloom bluster was pretty much a charade,  I was figuring it must've
been hard for her to talk with Mikhail about the sex_thang.   But then it
started heating up, and I was saying "Yeah, this is better than seeing
Victor try to mate with Grace"....


Not enough of Gwen this season, not by a long shot.....



I still would rather watch Northern Exposure, but this show still ain't too
bad.....


'Saw

 Send me mail if you want an LA Law write-up.  No promises or guarantees.
 
 Bob Hunt

OK, who else wants to punch out Frankie the K?

    If seeing Gwen in Frederick's silk means putting up with Frankie's
    sleaze, let's hope the writers make him the sleazeball of all time...
    :-)
    
    Hawk
    
    P.S.  Bob Hunt, many, many, many, many, thanks for friday's write-up. 
    	  I mean really, many thanks!
    

One quick note.


I don't mean to "correct" Bob, but it's important to note (in case anyone
missed it) that the babe Frankie the K had at his place was the daughter
of the 70 year old lady with the 40 year old husband (Arnie's case).

Frankie the K is playing the old double agent.....


'Saw

I saw everything but the first 15 minutes.  I'll try to put in a brief
summary.


Zoey is trying a case against a prisoner who is accussed of killing another
inmate.  He is being defended by another prisoner.  The lawyer is doing
life w/o parole.  Seems that it was a guard that killed the prisoner (crooked
guard) and the lawyer won't call a witness to prov that, because he's afraid
of certain retribution when he goes back in.

Zoey chastises him for that, and the guy calls the witness.  She promises
protective custody, and he laughs and says he's a dead man.  He does ask
for access to a law library, to help prepare an appeal or something like
that.  She says ok.

Anyway, he ends up escaping from the library, Zoey's boss is pissed at her.
Zoey manages to defeat the mistrial motion by the prisoner's new lawyer.

[My guess is that when Jonathan leaves the show (ie becomes the councilman)
Zoey is gonna get booted out of the DA's office -- her boss is doubly
pissed at her lately -- and she'll join McKenzie Brackman.]


Stuart's kid is pulling the rebellion thing to piss off her mother, who
doesn't want her seeing this one guy.  She spends that night at Stuart
and Ann's.   It's the typical, highly predictable plot line where the kid
keeps throwing it up to the mother about how Stuart's house is nice blah
blah blah.  Show ends with the kid disappearing.....


Arnie smooth-talks Frank's secretary to find out what he can about the leak
of his important info.  They almost come to blows.


CJ is defending a movie mogul who urges a starlet to get breast implants which
went wrong.   The guy who used to play "Sledgehammer" is the opposite
lawyer, and he's playing a blind guy.   Watch for him and CJ to heat
up the screen this week....

Meanwhile, Susan Bloom is all bummed out about Mikhail.  He's busy
rehearsing constantly for a new movie part, and Susan thinks he's bonking
the co-star.  Late in the show he comes in and tells her he won't do that
because he respects her....


I can't remember what else happened.  No Tommy Mulaney this show, which
bums me because he's my favorite character.  No Gwen in slinky lingerie
either.


Stuart and Ann have to go.  Maybe terrorists could take them and their
ugly kid hostage and blow them all to kingdom come....


'Saw

From:	SHALOT::HUNT "Robert E Hunt Jr - DTN 393-7351  01-May-1992 1629"  1-MAY-1992 16:32:16.61
To:	@LALAW.DIS
CC:	HUNT
Subj:	30-Apr-1992 LA Law Write-Up

Are we perchance seeing Frankie The K assume the reigns of bedroom sleazedom in
our beloved SoCal law firm ???   Perhaps Arnie, our grizzled old vet, is
looking at a reassignment to the minors to make room for the new shark in town.

And what in the world are Dougie and Sheila doing with all these new-found
goo-goo eyes they're making at each other ???   And ol' Stu-baby is defending a
condom importer ???   And is Tommy looking at some Palm Springs fever ???  

Yessiree, folks, this was one toasty warm little episode as the legal
mattresses got a much nicer workout than the legal offices.   The bedroom was
on display quite a bit more than the boardroom, dat's for sure.

We opened with a hilarious scene at a posh French bistro where Dougie-dude and
Sheila-babe are discussing Alexander's well-being.  Yeah, right ...  Sheila is
so hot she's suh-mokin' and neither she nor Dougie have the appetite for their
French haute cuisine.   Sheila confides to the Dougster that his public
outbursts give her the dampies and Dougie takes the belt-high fastball and
smacks it clear outta da park with a funny huff-puff showdown with the snooty
French chef.  Soon Dougie has smeared la moustarde all over a couple of $20's
and "paid" his bill on the chef's shirt.  Sheila demands to be taken somewhere
and ... [CENSORED].

Meanwhile, Jonathan gets an interesting offer from some black community leaders
to serve out a deceased black city councilman's unexpired term in office.  This
is somewhat intriguing to young Mr J and he and the Zoe-babe discuss the matter
"in chambers".  Zoey reminds J that a white armpiece doesn't exactly bode well
for a black councilman.  Jon insists things will go his way but we ain't
convinced.   Jon did approach Leland with a status request on his chances of
making partner and Leland told him that was unlikely for now.   Are we seeing
the foretaste of a sendoff for young Jon ???

Stu takes up yet another litigation cause that no one else wants.  He is quite
the champ of the legally offbeat, ain't he ???  US Customs in its infinite
wisdom has confiscated a shipment of half a million "Patriot" condoms which,
hilariously, are decorated in the great red, white and blue of the 'Murican
flag.  [They also had raised stars to give her that extra special feeling !!!] 

Anyways, Customs decided they were obscene and the businessman is trying to get
them freed up so he can sell 'em.   Lots of offhand remarks and little double
entendres but basically the judge goes woodward where the flag is concerned
and, even though he said the businessman was not violating any laws, he
nevertheless granted Customs 30 days to make an appeal.   The guy can't wait
that long so he puts 'em back on the ship and ships 'em over to Japan where
they're a big hit in the Land of the Rising Sun.   Not before he gives Stu a
six-pack of Patriots for all his "hard" work, though.   Ann later salutes the
flag.  Is this a great country or what ???

Frankie and Gwen are indeed doing the deed as we knew all along.  (And doesn't
Gwen just make you wanna check out a Fredericks catalog !!!)   However, during
a private moment, she confides a critical piece of information from one of
Arnie's cases.  Nexted thing you know Arn's opponent shoots off a subpoena for
the important datapoint and Arn gives Gwen an earful for the screwup.  Gwen
assumes Frankie had let his lips do the walking and testily confronts him with
the accusation nexted day in the office.

Frankie, ever the sensitive fellow, confronts her right back with her own fears
about their relationship and she harumphs off in a major pout.   At the end, we
see Gwen phoning Dr Slime and apologizing for her rash accusation and mixed-up
behavior.   Frankie soothes her ruffled feathers, tells her it never happened,
and then proceeds to do the liplock boogie with yet another boffo babe as Gwen
hangs the phone up with a false sense of security.  Uh-oh.   Watch out, Arn.
Thy throne doth quaketh underneatheth thy rumpeth.

And what about ol' Tommeroo ???   He takes a little LOA from the firm to head
on out to Palm Springs as a "guest" prosecutor in a weird murder mystery case. 
There ain't no body and there ain't no weapon but there's a ton of suspicion. 
This guy's wife (an ex-stripper) is missing in action and the local DA suspects
foul play.   Tommy is brought in to help try a local dude who was sorta last
seen with her.  There is some missing money and all kinds of shady little
comings and goings and pretty soon Tommy and Marcia (his partner) are playing
the private eye game as much as they're doing the legal thang.

Through some video shenanigans with an actress hired to look like the presumed
deceased, they zero in on the plot between the hubbie and the other dude who
together offed her and split some cash.   But that ain't da juice ... Nah, we
gotta rumple some more linen ... Marcia shows up at Tommy's hotel room after
all is said and done with a six-pack (beer, not Patriots) and a smile.   We
fade out on those two as they are obviously contemplating a rousing evening of
brewskis and boffskis.

Lots a sizzle, a little steak and some same old same olds ...   I'll be at
DECUS nexted week so I may skip the writeup.  Here's hoping it's a rerun.

Bob Hunt

    So... did any one see it?
    
    REK

>    So... did any one see it?
    
I taped it and haven't viewed it yet.

If I get a chance to watch it tonight before Northern Exposure (better show)
I'll put a report in here tomorrow.  If I don't get a chance to 
see it before Northern Exposure (better show) then I'll try to see it
sometime soon and put a report in.....


'Saw

    Yup I saw it... highlights included:
    
    Resolution on Frank and Gwen's case
    
    End of the breast implant law suit
    
    More on Jonathan's selectman career
    
    More on Stuart and Ann the hag vs the new daughter
    
    Will defer to 'Saw or the MacroHunt..

    Bob Hunt is up in Jersey at his sister's wedding.  He left Thursday
    afternoon so I bet he was still drivin' when the show was on.
    
    	--dan'l

>    Bob Hunt is up in Jersey at his sister's wedding.  He left Thursday
>    afternoon so I bet he was still drivin' when the show was on.
    
I didn't view the tape last night.  I'll try to look at it sometime
this week, and give you a PoorMan's BobHunt impression....


Meantime, Northern Exposure was BITCHIN' last night!


'Saw

well give up a NE update then for practice  ;^)

mike

Okay,

The show starts with Joel nodding off as he's driving in  his pickup truck
down this road.  Ahead there looms a figure partly in the road.  

You never really know if Joel hits him, but I think it was more a thing
where they both startled each other and the old guy fell over.

As Joel picks up the old guy, he's babbling about Cicely and how he hasn't
been back there in years.  Joel takes him home to patch him up.

While they're sitting in Joel's house the guy is saying how great a place
Cicely is.  Joel, ever the New Yawker, is vehemently disagreeing with him.
The old man says that Joel is wrong.

It comes out that the old man left Cicely in "Ought Nine".  Joel, doing
some quick arithmetic realizes that the man must be "One hundred and 
eight" cuts in the old guy, whose name is Ned Svenvoldt (or something like
that).


Anyway, Ned starts relating the history of Cicely to Joel.  Ned it seemed
was a boy raised by the wolves, and the town was a ROWDY place back then.
The young Ned (played by Ed) was groveling in the mud and begging.

The town bar was a real rowdy place, and the baddest character in there
was an outlaw named Mace (played by Maurice).  Mace had a thing for
Sally (Shelley) and no one dared cross him, not even Abe (Holling) who
was in love with Sally.

Mace's sidekick Kit (Chris) was a wonderful cross between hard-assed
outlaw and metaphysical philosopher.  At any rate, Mace and Kit ran the
town with a heavy hand.

After the two of them took off for the Yukon, two women came into town
in an Automobile.  Rosalyn and Cicely had come to the back water, no-name
town to create a Utopian society of artistic expression.

Rosalyn, a strong willed, two fisted woman (who was quite good looking
I thought) pulled Ned up out of the mud and actually started him on his
way to a civilized life.  Cicely, with the delicacy of a china doll,
was the quiet a reserved artist, and very close to Rosalyn.

There were two missionary women in town, trying to clean the place up,
but they had experienced no luck at all.  The head missionary (Maggie)
was frustrated.  Her sidekick was trying to sing "Nearer My God To Thee"
in the bar, but the rowdies kept drowning her out.   Finally Rosalyn
took over, duked out a rowdie, and got the crowd singing the hymn.

Rosalyn and Cicely set about building their "salon", an artistic
place for performances etc.  The first performance was an interpretive
dance by Cicely.  The rowdies were rowdy but they calmed down, and
as Ned said, he was struck by Cupid's arrow.

Cicely was teaching Ned how to read, and he professed his love to her.
She was touched, but said that she was too close to Rosalyn.

Meantime, Franz Kafka (yes, THE Franz Kafka) comes to town.  Franz (Joel)
is experiencing writer's block.  After a few days there he is telling
Rosalyn that he has an idea for a story about a man who is changed
into an animal.  He has his doubts, but the Missionary lady tells him
it's a good idea for a story, mentions something about an insect, and
we see Kafka's "Metamorphisis" being born in his mind.

Then, Abe confesses to Sally how he feels, and she feels the same way, except
she didn't feel worthy, because she was a "strumpet, a fallen woman, 
a jezebal, a tart".  Abe said, "When you have a toothache, you don't want
to go to a dentist who just hung up his shingle, and I have a heartache".


So things are going cool until Cicely gets sick from the climate.  She's
all in bed, Rosalyn is wicked bummed out but Cicely won't leave.

Then Kit comes back into town.  He demands Sally for Mace, but Abe stands
up and says No way.... Kit is SHOCKED, and rides off to get Mace.

The town has a meeting, and it seems that some want to roll over and
beg Mace for forgiveness, but in the end they decide to stand up 
to Mace and for the town.  It was Cicely getting out of her sickbed
which swayed the vote...

Mace rides into town, confronts Rosalyn.  She has actually trapped him,
and surrounded his gang, and the townspeople are standing up to him.
While she's using psychology on him, one of his guys lines her up in
his sights and shoots, but Cicely steps in and takes the bullet, and
dies.


So, in the end, Kit gives up his wild ways and becomes the town pastor,
Mace starts to reform himself, Abe and Sally take over the Salon, as
Rosalyn, consumed with grief eventually fades from Cicely, Franz Kafka
and the Missionary lady go off together, and Ned leaves the town,
never to return until that night on the road where he met Joel.


The show ends as Joel drives Ned to the cemetary.  The last thing that
Joel tells Ned is that, in effect, he sees exactly how Cicely is a 
special place...


It was a great episode.....


'Saw

Thanks for filling in the blanks I lost it just before Franz stroled into
town obviously. Good to see my main man Ed leading an episode for a change
of pace....

mike

    One other thing I got out of this episode is that at the end, Joel
    realized he would never leave Cicely.
    
    Mark.

>    One other thing I got out of this episode is that at the end, Joel
>    realized he would never leave Cicely.
    
 
  Hopefully this doesn't mean that Maggie's his "density".......

  He should have never told her nothing happened in Juno...

 mike

       
    >> Hopefully this doesn't mean that Maggie's his "density".......

       There has got to be a joke in there somewhere.
      

|    >> Hopefully this doesn't mean that Maggie's his "density".......
|
|       There has got to be a joke in there somewhere.


See:  'Back To The Future', scene in the malt shop between George McFly
      and Lorraine.




Yes, Joel realized that he would never leave Cicely, and that Cicely was
the "Paris of Alaska".


Myself, I'd KILL to meet the writers of this series.  Just the plethora
of classic writings and wonderful music that is played is fulfilling enough,
but to then wrap the characters in this complex and dynamite personalities...


To me Chris is my favorite character.  The true renaissance man.

I'd love to have a reading list of the books he's read from or referenced
over this past season alone.....


And remember:

		TWO people can change the world....


'Saw


PS  Did anyone get the little thread about lesbianism and how it parallels
    today's Cicely in the two guys that own the hotel?????

    Chris talks too damned much.  If he'd be quiet once in a while, he'd be
    perfect.  (though it was funny that the show actually seemed to be
    making in fun of his character last night, it's about time.)
    
    I cannot stand the sound of Shelly's voice.  Holling is a whimp (and a
    fool for liking her)
    
    Maggie is a nutcase.
    
    Joel is a whiner and there is absolutely nothing appealing about him
    whatsoever.  At least Maggie is a looker, even if she is nuts.
    
    The Marilyn schtick gets old.
    
    
    The only trooly cool people on this show (and what makes it worth
    watching) are Ruth Ann and my main bud, Ed.
    
    
    kimBO
    

 alright another Ed-Head...maybe we should start a fan club  ;^)

 mike    

    Heck,  All Norhtern Exposureis going to do is geta bunch of yuptoids
    and suburbiayuppieburgers to want to go do the "Alaska Thing" because
    it will be trendy.  They'll all go to Anchorage, which is only a few 
    hundred miles south of real  ALaska, wear furry clothes, drink some
    beer at a Faux "Genuine ALaska Bar" and go home and show slide shows to
    Muffy and Chipper  and the rest of their wine and brie  friends.
    
    The show, IMO, is okay, but all in all, I'd rather watch reruns of "Her
    Comes the Brides".
    
    JD

Nah, because too many DIFFERENT kind of people like this show.

Chris is way cool because what he says means a lot, and makes you think.
Actually they all do. 

Ed makes me think in a very innocent, un-assuming kind of way.   Maurice
makes me think because he's so blatantly conservative, yet feeling too.
Joel is the cynic, who's fast becoming a non-cynic.

Best show on TV right now....


'Saw

PS  And JD, you know I'd go the the REAL Alaska...Mt McKinley!

    Were  the two women in last nights show named Cicely and Roselyn ?

    
    RE: .344
    
    >> alright another Ed-Head...
    
    Hahahahaha!  Rollward, MikeC.
    
    
    Cath

>    Were  the two women in last nights show named Cicely and Roselyn ?

Yes.

    Yeah, Chris makes me think, all right. 
    
    I think: "Shut the hail up!!!!"
    
    
    
    =8)
    
    
    kim

    FWIW,
    
    For those of you who didn't see it, the guest actor who played
    Ned Svenvoldt, ya know the guy who was 100+ years old, was the
    same guy who played the role of the scary next door neighbor (the
    grandfather) in the movie "Home Alone".
    
    hth
    
    I remain,
    giving hidden credit to my F.E.W. for sharing that with me!
    Kev
    

    
    'saw, wasn't it Ned who shot Cicely?  I thought he was trying to take
    out one of the bad guys, and Cicely tried to stop him.  
    
    I think they had to have Joel meet this guy, because his contract in
    Alaska with Maurice is up.  I think he only had to stay there two years 
    after med school and they had to figger out a way for him to stay. 
    Much better thabn doing the Maggie thing, which would have been too
    easy.
    
    My favorites are Ed, Adam, and Chris' brother (whose name just left
    me).
    
    Brews
    
    

    SO how did they get Joel to stay?
    
    Go Bruins (at least in this round)
    The Crazy Met
    

re shooting Cicely.

	I thought it was one of the bad guys.  I didn't think it was
	Ned.  I thought Ned was standing behind Roslyn and Cicely.

	
Was Joel's contract just two years?  I thought it was four, but then
I missed most of the first season.


btw, does anyone have all the episodes taped?  I'd supply video tapes
and a voucher for a couple of six packs if they do and wanna make copies...


'Saw

>Was Joel's contract just two years?  I thought it was four, but then
>I missed most of the first season.

It is indeed 4, in fact he said in this very episode it is 4.

Scott

Thanks!


As to the Joel - Maggie "thing", that's still very open, because in the
wedding episode, after Joel said "I give up, you win blah blah blah",
Maggie replies with "Well, you are a great kisser"...


Again, anybody got all the episodes taped?????  8^)


'Saw

    Don't forget
    
    Best Euphemism Of The Year 	"Go Nastify Yourself"	Bob Hunt

    As opposed to Gracey's "Go Ffffornicate Yourself..."
    
    Hope Tommy and Zoey both come back. They have to be in the first one
    I would think.  Would Jonathan be gone too to be Mr. Selectman?  And
    what's the scoop with Rox?  That call wasn't kosher, sorry... She's
    got something...
    
    Hope the woman that was Mrs. Craig on St. Elsewhere comes back to
    hangout with Leland.  I thought that had potential.  
    

Predictions for next season:

Rox is expecting.  The baby will have more hair than Arnie.

Zoey survives and replaces Grace at the firm.  I can't see
her going back to the DA's office.

Mike

    Rox expecting?  Ooh, good one... yeah, I bet it has core hair...
    So if Zoey joins McKenzie Brackman, does this mean Jonathan's
    gone from the firm?

I didn't even think about Rox with child !!!  That would be some serious 
"juice".

And I too think the Zoe-babe will survive.  And she will want *NO* part of 
the DA's office.  Mac-Brack it could very well be.  And she and Jon will 
reconcile somehow.

Bob Hunt

    My only request is if they have a new female, don't make her a
    redhead...

    
    	Cj Benny and Zoey are all history...from what I've read...but who
    knows till nexted season?
    
    B.A.
    
    thanks Bob once again!
    
    B.A.

Has it been mentioned that the actress who plays Zoey is the daughter of Marty 
Hoffmann, General Counsel for Digital?  Think he reads here? ;^)

Scott

>Has it been mentioned that the actress who plays Zoey is the daughter of Marty 
>Hoffmann, General Counsel for Digital?  Think he reads here? ;^)

Nope, haven't heard that yet.

Boy, at this rate we could write a book:  Famous Children with Digital Parents.

;^)


If JoJ were still here he'd be saying "Wow, Zoey, she's my favorite on the
cast!"


'Saw

And another sad day for ::SPORTS.  No BobHunt recap of the season premier.

I was watching the series (can't beleive I was awake that late), but switched 
to LA Law between innings.

Just as we suspected, a lot fewer characters.  Susan Bloom is history, and along 
with her, Frankie the K.  GracieBit.. is gone (to NYC with Victor).  But the 
most disappointing of all, CJ is gone.  Douglas said that she joined the LPGA
tour. He then said "Now she can swing form both sides, and still hit from the 
red tees". (The most outrageous comment of the night.)

As for the specifics of the show, I didn't see that much, but  the best I can 
tell it was a take off on the LA riots.  

Oh, and Gwen went ga-ga over the new lawyer on the staff, who showed up with his
one-year old daughter the first day of work.  Looks like more Victoria's Secret
scenes for Gwen thised year!!!

The premier was panned in every review I read this week in the papers.

I truly think this show has outlived its usefulness.  I had it on while
I was doing things around the house (washing out empty Cheez-Wiz jar to
get them ready to recycle -- stuff like that).


CJ is a big loss.....


I don't miss Susan Dey one bit.  Earlier this week I tuned into CBS
from the football game to catch Northern Exposure.  Unfortunately,
the Presedential Debates had caused the shows to run over, and I was
treated to a seen of Susan Dey, sitting on a piano in a blue dress
that was extremly short, and extremely low cut, and extremely tight.

Right now I'm wondering if CBS will honor the cleaning bill to get
the Cheez-Wiz vomit stains out of my couch.  And that was after
the projectile vomiting that hit the TV screen.....

That woman is the second most skankiest, spent wimmen on TV (second
only to Anne on LA Law).  I mean Irene Ryan would have looked better
in that dress, and she's be daid a long time.



So, I probably won't be watching LA Law much this season.  Like Mike
Childs, I am a true Northern Exposure convert.....



'Saw

    > I truly think this show has outlived its usefulness.
    
    A bit of reach assuming that this show was ever useful. Never forgave
    it for taking the time slot that Hill Street Blues had!
    
    The Crazy Met
    

Oh, I dunno, I enjoyed it the first few seasons.  The last few I enjoyed
mainly to see how Bob Hunt would write it up....


The caring, sensitive lawyers of the 80s/90s took the place of the
hard-headed, neanderthal cops of the 70s.....  8^)



'Saw

    
    Different strokes for different folks. And so and so on
    and scobbie doobie doobie.

>    the same.  The last one must have been near his johnson.  He came to

Cheez-Whiz time.

    
>    be the bride or the groom while they're all in the paddy wagon. Douglas
>    gives a good head but and gets a crazed look and says if anyone even
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You forgot the other "t" on butt, there Walt, and I had to read that
line a few times to make sure I wasn't seeing what I thought I was
seeing 8^)


BTW, the woman who plays his ex is his real-life wife....


    
>    Stuart was on his way to the wedding when he drove to the wrong place
>    at the wrong time.  His car gets jumped and the windshield is smashed.
>    He gets dragged out of a car and gets beat up with a bat and kicks.
>    Winds op in the hospital.  Anne remembers her pledge after the heart
>    attack about treating him nicer and feels sorry for herself.  He looks
>    like he'll be ok.  Something happened with Gwen (now a clerk who Anne
>    wants at the partner meeting despite some pushback from Douglas) and
>    Stuart because before the beating, Anne was snapping at him. (I was
>    watching the game in parts too).

It would have been cooler if Anne had gotten beat up.  She's so spent
she wouldn't have needed any make-up to look beat up....

    
>    Zoe goes home from the hospital and stays with Tommy.  She and Jonathan
>    are history (too many stations down south?).  Tommy wants to leave town
>    when the riots get bad.  Zoe says she's been dead once, she has nothing
>    to fear, then decides to leave, then comes back and she and Tommy get
>    hot and bothered and start sucking face.

I thought Zoe was supposed to leave the show this season....
    


'Saw

>>    Zoe goes home from the hospital and stays with Tommy.  She and Jonathan
>>    are history (too many stations down south?).  Tommy wants to leave town
>>    when the riots get bad.  Zoe says she's been dead once, she has nothing
>>    to fear, then decides to leave, then comes back and she and Tommy get
>>    hot and bothered and start sucking face.
>
>I thought Zoe was supposed to leave the show this season....
    
 The reports are that she leaves after 3 episodes.

    Head but, headbutt... picky picky...

>    Head but, headbutt... picky picky...

A true Hong Kong Cavalier would never make that mistake!  8^)

    Laugh while you can...
    

    Think Stuart will have a flashback and start assaulting Jonathan?
    What's the deal there?  I thought he was snapping out of it last week
    once he looked at the sheets pop up at attention...
    
    Was in and out, but did the flowers come from that guy Gwen
    represented? 

>    Was in and out, but did the flowers come from that guy Gwen
>    represented? 


If it hadn't been Thursday night, I'd jump all over the first clause in that
sentence.....


No.  The guy, Weston, said no.  Then Mr. Santa Barbara told Gwen he put
something on her desk, she assumes it's flowers, and plants a nice
sloppy wet one on him.  He goes, "Oh, it was just a legal journal", she
gets all embarassed, but about 15 seconds later they are tickling tonsils...


'Saw

    That's why I didn't see it.  She called about the storm last night and
    said her power was out in her place and she was all alone and missed
    me... (sniff)... came back and they were looking at each other and
    then played some tonsil hockey.

>    That's why I didn't see it.  She called about the storm last night and
>    said her power was out in her place and she was all alone and missed
>    me... (sniff)... came back and they were looking at each other and
>    then played some tonsil hockey.


So it was virtual instead of physical.  I was close 8^)

'Saw

     Uh... yeah... wish it was more the latter... sigh...