Conference 7.286::sports_91

    Besides, we shouldn't clutter up the NHL note with Bruins discussion.
    
    Mark.

        <<< Note 126.1 by CARROL::LEFEBVRE "Rather be trout hunting" >>>
                                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

headless browns?

    Lemelin kept the Broons in the game last night.  While trailing 3-1 to
    the Nords, Lemelin was peppered with shots and he made some great
    saves.  Another Quebec goal at that point would have put it out of
    reach for Boston.
    
    The Broons' defense had better shore up before the playoffs.
    
    Mark.

    	THE BRoons are betr than DEVILS and are winin the STANLI CUp
    this yeer!!!!

    The Broons will get their braindaid fans worked up in a lather again
    thised year - and lose in the playoffs, as usual!
    
    JD
    
    Never catch me on the Broons bandwagon - I'd rather marry Lawwy Biwd or
    Doug Flutie then root for the Broons.

    I see where CAM_GOON scored his 50th on a MT net....
    
    REK
    
    a *REAL* wimp 50th....

So...

Are the Broons going to expend all their energy trying to win the division again
this year only to fall short in the playoffs again ?

At least they'll be able to hang another useless division banner in the rafters
of the garden. Or do they only hang conference banners ?

Metz

    Go Brooons. I can get them once in awhile on HTS, a DC based sports
    network, when they play the Islanders or Capitals. 
    
    Ken Hodge Jr really impresses me. So does Gary Doak Jr, Don Awry Jr and
    Phil Esposito Jr.
    
    They will be tough and will most likely win their conference but St
    Louis, Chicago, LA and Calgary look tough from out west. And never
    count the Oilers out.
    
    Rich
    

    
    	BROONS ROOL!
    
    	CAM NEELY IS GAWD!
    
    	And JD, don't you root for the Rangers?  Has anybody explained
    	to you that they are a bunch of girly-mons who use aluminum
    	hawkey sticks?
    
    	Claybroon

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	I just counted the Oilers out Rich.  8^)  Calgary or Los Angeles 
from that division.

				/Don

    I was watching the game last night (I usally wait untill the regualar
    season I mean the playoffs start) so I could see neely get his 2 goals.
    I saw the put back for #49 and them with I think Under a minute to go
    I switched over to the New York San Antonio game, boy was I pissed when
    I read in the paper this morning that Neely got the 50th goal last
    night...I guess anything can happen in 60 seconds huh...do the broons
    play hartford in the 1st round ?
    								MaB

                     <<< Note 126.12 by VLNVAX::MBROOKS >>>
    
>    night...I guess anything can happen in 60 seconds huh...do the broons
>    play hartford in the 1st round ?
    
   
    It looks like it'll be the Whale.  I scored 2 tickets to each of the
    first 2 games last week.  Should be a blast, although my wife insists
    on going.  Something about toothless blood donors.
    
    Mark.

    

    
    /Don, you count like Richard Steele! I thought a count of 10 was
    required for a knock out!
    
    Broons rool
    
    
    Steve

    
    /Don was using the Wrasslin' Count, something Broon fans are more
    familiar with.
    
    Dickstah
    

Go WHALE!

    re: .6
    
    Guess YOU didn't score last night!!!! ;-) hahahahahahaha
    
    
    

    re: .7
    
    The Bruins have already won their Division (Adams) some time last
    week.
    
    Answer to other question:  They hang banners for Divisions, Conference,
    and Stanley Cup.  (I'd luv to see #6 being hung!!!)
    
    

    >and Stanley Cup.  (I'd luv to see #6 being hung!!!)
    
    Wheel, does Gord Kluzak know you feel this way?
    
    Mark.
    

    Hahahahaha.......I'm sure he'd be pleased!  8^)

    Yo Lufay, do the Broons deserve all the post-season awards again this
    season?  Will they get cheated by the voters, again?
    
    Dan

    
    >     Yo Lufay, do the Broons deserve all the post-season awards again this
    >     season?  Will they get cheated by the voters, again?
    
    Why do I get the feeling that the phrase "Do me" is about to appear
    from the CARROL:: node?
    
    Or perhaps the yuppie version:  "Do me....
    
                                        ......Evan does."
    8^)
    
    Dickstah
    

    Not this year, no, Dan.
    
    The most deserving player for any award is Ray Bourque for the Norris
    Trophy as best defenseman.  He's had nowhere near the season he had
    last year in terms of having a shot at the Hart Trophy for MVP.  He's
    not even necessarily a lock for the Norris either, and may well win it
    on default or on past reputation.  Ken Hodge is a remote shot for
    Rookie of the Year but probably won't get it.  Chris Nilan is and
    always has been a Lady Byng Candidate and Cam Neely deserves an award
    for either Leading Teenage Heartthrob or leading scorer among NHL
    Goons.  The team won't win the trophy for fewest goals allowed, neither
    goalie is in the top echelon of goalies in the league, the team won't
    win the best overall record award and probably won't win the Stanley
    Cup either, due to lack of overall scoring punch.  Craig Janney will
    win the Wuss Trophy and the team overall will win the Johnson and
    Johnson Award for most injuries.
    
    John

       <<< Note 126.21 by VAXWRK::SCHNEIDER "The crux of the biscuit" >>>
                               -< Just checkin' >-

>    Yo Lufay, do the Broons deserve all the post-season awards again this
>    season?  Will they get cheated by the voters, again?
    
    Dan, if you walk down memory lane (I know the 'ludes didn't cause too
    much permanent damage), you'll recall that I was miffed about Bourque, 
    and only Bourque.
    
    This year, Hull and Gretzky have both had better years, and I'd wager
    that Neely is more valuable to the Broons this year than Bourque.
    
    However, Hodge should be up in the voting for ROY.
    
    Mark.

    My my, Dan, you DO love to stir the pot!  :*)
    
    
    lEe

    Actually, Moog is in the top 5 in GAA.
    
    Bourque is in the running for the Norris, and Hodge for ROY.  Has
    anyone seen Coffey's +/- stats?  Something like -29 for a first place
    team.
    
    I just read that the Whale renewed Eddie J's contract until '95 or so.
    If the Whale should happen to upset the B's will Ley be allowed to stay
    on?
    
    And PLEASE, would someone throw a little arsenic in Jim Weimer's next 
    meal for me?  He makes Eddie Westfall's skating ability comparable to
    Rocket Richard.  So he has a hard shot, BFD.  He's a stiff!
    
    					Steve

>    If the Whale should happen to upset the B's will Ley be allowed to stay
>    on?
    
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA(tm)

Steve, you absolutely SLAY me.  Gawd, I'm laughing so hard here I've
almost given myself a hernia.

Shee-yit, the Whalers upset the Bruins?  If the Whale scores 10 goals
in four games (the Bruins to sweep) I'll be surprised.....

I would like to see McKenzie kick the tar outta Nilan again though....8^)


'Saw

    DA BROONS IS DA BESTEST TEEM IN HOKEY!
    
    sCAM Neeley(tm) no is too blam! RAYd Borque is da best! 
    
    Broons in '91!!

    Tidbits for tonight's opening game matchup between the Broons and les
    Habs.
    
    - Bobby Carpenter is out for the rest of the playoffs as doctor's
    report that he has re-fractured his knee.  Why he skated in Game 2
    against the Whale is beyond me.
    
    - Jeff Lazaro is questionable due to a hyperextended knee from Game 6
    against the Whale.  Wes Walz will likely fill his skates on a 4th line.
    
    - Milbury will likely send out the following lines: Razcizka, Neely,
    Janney; Skriko, Poulin, Christian; Sweeney, Hodge, Burridge; Markwhart,
    Walz, Nilan.  Defense: Wesley, Bourque, Sweeney, Galley, Weimer,
    Pederson.
    
    - Moog, of course will be between the pipes.
    
    Mark.

    	The Bobby Carpenter Story - Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee

    BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONS!!!
    
    
    py

Great game lasted night! Broons beat Les Hacks!!!!!!!!!!! Corson ans Skrudland
goons. Film at 11'



Steve

I was rooting for the Broons big time lasted night, and I happy that they won. 
In all fairness, however, it seemed that they got ALL the calls.

IMHO

=Bob=

    Les Ogres did a great impression of a rugby scrum in the last two
    minutes! Whaddya think 'Saw? I'm surprised the trainer and water boy
    weren't trying to pigpile Moog. In the future something's gotta be done
    about the crease activity. I'm not saying this because the Broons were
    on the receiving end either. If they were down to the Habs, the Bruins
    would have tried to jampile Roy also. If the refs don't crack down on
    the goonism in the crease, the goalies will take it upon themselves 
    ( ala Cheevers,Billy Smith, Hextall) Cain't say I would blame them 
    either.
    
    Speaking of goonism.
    Don Sweeney cross-checking Corson in the back.
    Even cheaper,Corson cross-checking Bourque in the neck.
    
    Will someone wake up Denis Savard and let him know which truck hit him?
    Never smack someone in the face and let your left down. Nice little
    right cross by Bob Sweeney, and well-deserved.
    
    MikeL
    
    
    
    
    
    Corson

    Great  playoff game, intensity, checking,  LAZARO deserved 2nd star
    
    after Moog, did he get it? Courtnall was non factor except on the one
    
    breakaway... Should be a great series, i would say pittsburgh
    
    but with Coffey out it will be tough, hoping the ex whalers
    
    represent  thenselves well, love to see this go 7 also!!!!!
    
    dinz
    

RE THE SCRUM:

	Probably closer to a "ruck for the puck"......8^)


Re the Reaction in here over the win:

	Does anyone have any kleenex.  All this spuge is clogging up 
	my DECnet links 8^) 8^) 8^)


'Saw

    Nyah nyah nyah nyah, hey hey, GOODBYE!
    
    Les Scabitants are gone!  Cam, Cam, the scoring machine!!!!!  Yowza!!
    This guy is awesome!!!
    
    Dinz,
    
    The FYS connection?  Francis, Young, & Samuelsson?  What about
    Jennings?  8^)  Some fan!!!!!!!  BTW, does anyone know if Ulfie is
    back from Finland??????? 

    For those who are interested in TV coverage:
    
    Game 1 of the series, which would normally be on NESN, will be on
    Channel 38.  The Red Sox game that night cannot be on Channel 38 since
    there would be a conflict with ESPN so the Sox will be on NESN instead. 
    
    Game 3 of the series, which would normally be on Channel 38, will be on
    NESN to make up for this.
    
    John

    hi wheel,
    
    Didnt realize jennings was with them
    
    whole key to series, francis line against neely  line..
    
    Mr. Barasso in goal, should be interesting to say the least
    Ona  personal note, any one hear how Barasso's  daughter 
    
    is doing with the cancer treatments, hope things are well.
    
    dinz
    

    ABsolutely intense, wonderful game.  I couldn't believe it when Les
    Habs pulled Roy with, what, 2 1/2 minutes left and put out 6 forwards. 
    And those guys then managed to fend off at least 2 direct shots on
    goal.  I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like that lone
    player standing in the net and deflecting the shot.
    
    There were a ton of uncalled penalties on both sides, but that's kind
    of "to be expected" under the circumstances.
    
    Anyone have word on what Hodge's injury was?  How long he'll be out?
    
    A&W

    Dinz,
    
    Barasso's daughter is doing much better...during a B's/Penguins game
    earlier in the season they did a story on him between periods.
    
    A&W
    
    Regarding Hodge's injury, about the only thing that is positive is
    no broken bones.  I've heard a dislocated shoulder on the news, but
    then someone else said it was just bruised!
    
    Jo

    As a Canadien fan, I'm here to say congratulations to the Bruins. 
    They out-skated and out-hustled the Canadiens.  The Bruins were always
    moving and really controlled the puck better than the Canadiens.  It
    was a good win.
    
    Re: one other item.  I'm surprised by the fact that Bruin fans in here 
    are calling the Canadiens "scabitants", etc.  Hey guys, you WON the 
    series, not lost.  Sore winners? 
    
    Glenn

    Re:42 Glenn, if the shoe fits... BUY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    Scabs go down....
    
    REK

    RE: 42
    
    Glenn,
    
    Scabs are a pet name for the Canadiens.
    
    i.e.:
    
    Whalers=Whailers, Failers
    Kings=Queens
    Rangers-STrangers
    Oilers=SPoilers
    
    GET IT???????????????????????????????????????

    Yea, I get it!
    
    Glenn

    
    re. 45
    
    Being from Detroit don't forget:
    
    Red Wings=Dead Things
    
    \pjb

    Ahh.. SLasher... The BRUINS had only 1 PP last night.. not 7....
    
    REK

Glenn, actually I think alot of us Bruins fans are upset at the cheap shot
on Bourque by Corson. It was a vicious cross check and totally un-called 
for. Sore loser's? No, Shayne's got that covered.


Steve

    The Penquins/Bruins series should be a good one.  If you ask me to list
    the usual thorns in the Birds' side, it would go like this:
    
    	1. Phillie
    	2. NJ
    	3. Boston
    
    Pittsburgh has had a tough time with Boston over the years.  And
    watching a Pens and Broons game is always tough until you get a mindset
    on which black and gold clad team is at home.
    
    I think the Bruins should win, but a Penquin vs Northstar Cup Series
    would be fun.
    
    	--dan'l

    REK
    
    /Don is correct...I think you misunderstood.
    
    Bruins DID have 7 powerplays.
    Only scored 1 powerplay goal. (Cammyhoney!)
    
    

    We all know which team is the real black and gold!
    
    What were the Pens' original colors? Was it azure blue and white?
    

    *&&^&^&^*^&$^&()_)_(^&*$%^@#$!@#$%^#(*))( Paper had it wrong...
    
    REK
    
    Sorry Slasher..................

    Pen's original colors were azure and white (and I think a bit of
    black).  It's really strange to see old highlights.  They switched to
    black and gold in '79 to match the Pirates and the Steelers.  Except
    for the insignia, the Bruins and Penguins uniforms are exactly the
    same...as far as I can tell.
    
    There was some controversey when the Penguins switched.  The Bruins
    claimed to "own" those colors.  I like the Pens in black and gold only
    because they match Pittsburgh's other sports teams (including the
    now-defunct indoor soccer team, Spirit), but I hate that they look
    exactly like Boston.  It would have been better to wear a gold-based
    away uniform...but then they'd still have to wear white at home
    which wouldn't solve anything.
    
    	--dan'l

    --dan'l
    
    Penguins have a yellow (its not gold to me!) stripe on their shorts
    which is narrow at the bottom (knee area) and gets wider on the way
    up.  Bruins shorts are all black.

    	Jo, the Penguins have a yellow stripe on their shorts?  Anybody
    tell them about depends?
    
    				/Don

    Wheres the pens  bandwagon, i need to jump on..
    
    go  ronnie, go ulfie, go  grantie :), go scottie!
    
    dinz
    

    Hey Dinz, you got any bets going on this series??????
    
    REK

    	Dinz told me that if the Broons won the series he would run
    through the North End (like little Anthony) with only his Cam Neely
    shirt on singing "When I think of Cammyhoney, I touch myself".
    
    				/Don

    Cam and the rest of the Broons should have no problems getting up for
    the Pens. All they have to do is look across the ice at the Swedish
    Meatball!  He's BAAAAAAAAAAACK!
    
    Would you believe that Neely and Samuelsson have the same agent!
    That guy must have a ref's license.
    
    MikeL
    

    
    
    HMM, I COULD USE A GOOD ITALIANO DINNER,:))
    
    

    A simple solution to the sameness of the Pens and Bruins uniforms would
    be for the Bruins to revert to their sweaters from the late 60's. You
    know, the ones with the gold and white shoulders. Always liked those
    jerseys and never figured out why they put those stupid little bears on
    their arms.
    
    Rich
    

    Rich,
    
    Look up the definition of 'bruin' in the dictionary and you'll figure
    it out in a heartbeat.
    
    Joann

    whats bruin?
    
    Coffey down at your local Dunkin' Donuts!!
    
    ;-)

    Joann, I know that a bruin is a baby bear. Same as a "Cub". It looks
    stupid. I recall back in the 70's there was a minor league team that
    played in the Yarmouth Coloseum on the Cape. They were called the Cape
    Cod Cubs. They had that silly little bear on their shoulders, too.
    
    Anybody remember that symbol at gas stations from years ago? I think it
    was for tires. The symbol was a bear with the same silly grin the bear
    on the Bruin jerseys has.
    
    Get rid of the silly little bear!!!
    
    Rich
    

    I remember 'em, /Don.  If I'm not mistaken, they regularly played in
    front of 13K crowds at the Garden.  The player I remember best from
    those teams was none other than Terry O'Reilly.
    
    					Steve

    Yeah, Slasher, I remember them. Colors were maroon, black and white.
    They had O'Reilly and Freddy O'Donnel and a kid named Richie Leduc. And
    Steve is right...they used to pack the Garden. Saw 'em play the
    Richmond Robins once when Richmond had Schultz and Saleski. Brawl from
    start to finish.
    
    But, anyway, the Bruins should get rid of those silly bears.
    
    Rich
    

    If anyone should have changed uniforms it shoulda been the Penguins!
    Remember the Pens uniforms when they used to be BLUE? It wasn't until
    the Pirates and Steelers won in the same year taht they changed to
    Black & Gold. I think for a while they were waering gold at home, and
    they even did the same as the B's with the gold sox withthe away
    uniform.
    
    Hard to believe the interest in hockey from the 70's. The Whalers were
    also Boston based, playing in the gahden and at Northeastern's Matthews
    arena. I think it was around 76 or 77 when they hit the road for
    Hartford/Springfield
    
    Tom

    Glen Wesley and the Broons have reached agreement.
    
    Mark.

    Great, another year of Wesley underachievement
    

    B.F.D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    REK

    With Cam-goon out and the front office not getting a NHL goal
    scoring it will be another year of disappointment...
    

    Luffynutter, the was a dig at you, it was a shot at the Bruins front
    office....
    
    REK

    Anybody see Ralph's or Dinz's decoder ring lying around?
    
    Mark.

    Luffynutter, the was a dig at you, it was a shot at the Bruins front
    office....      ^^^
          should be wasn't
    
    REK

Musta been using MrT's modem.....

    FYI, Ray Borque will be at "The Complete Athlete" at Pheasant Lane Mall
    in Nashua, NH this Friday (October 4th) from 5-7 PM.
    
    
    py

    
    According to the paper I saw, lasted night's game against the LA
    Gretzskys was *not a sellout*.  How could that happen?
    
    Dickstah
    

    Because Da Broons are playing like the Quebec Nordiques.  Also, because
    Chris Nilan and CammyHoney aren't playing.  The fight fans won't go
    because Nilan's riding the pine (and will probably be an ex-Bruin soon)
    and the teeny-boppers won't go because CammyHoney is out.
    
    John

    
    But I thought all the tickets were always scooped up well in advance,
    particularly for a Gretzsky game.
    
    Dickstah
    

    	I was out trick-or-teatin' you gots to set your priorities.
    Al Stewart (heir apparent to Nilan) decided to be a monk instead
    of a goon.  Hmmm...  I wonder if there is any kind of connection
    here.
    
    				/Don

    
    
    Dickstah,
    
    It's 'cuz the Bruins (I can't believe that *I'm* saying this...) sip.
    
    Big time.
    
    
    
    
    But Cammyhoney looks mmmm-mmmm fine! in a suit!!   ;-)
    
    
    
    
    For those of you who watched the game, did they show these four
    spectators dressed as cows?  2 guys dressed as bulls, 2 girls as cows,
    all white with black spots, with a big sign that said, "Mooooooo-g!" 
    It was pretty comical.
    
    
    Cath

    
>    For those of you who watched the game, did they show these four
>    spectators dressed as cows?  2 guys dressed as bulls, 2 girls as cows,
>    all white with black spots, with a big sign that said, "Mooooooo-g!" 
>    It was pretty comical.
 
    There ya go, Dickster, that's the reason more people aren't attending
    Broons' games....  ;-)
    
    glenn
     

    Why there was Bruis tickets.. Because the Bruins suck.....
    
    REK

    
    Bruins have no defense except ray be baby :), no snipers, course thats
    the problem all the time...
    
    dinz
    

       Hey Dinz, wanna bet!!?
                                       Denny

>       Hey Dinz, wanna bet!!?
>                                       Denny



Denny, YOU'RE COLD!
8^)

    
    Any comments on the film of that Broons' fan taking a poke at Steve
    Yzerman this past weekend?
    
    Not only does the film prove this fan to be a pathological liar
    in addition to being a low-life scumbag (which we pretty much knew
    already), but what does it say for Harry Sinden?  Sinden stated 
    emphatically, without question, that from his perch in the Garden 
    boxes that Yzerman and the Detroit coach initiated the fracas.  
    Would good ol' Harry be beneath telling a giant fib to get an 
    opposing coach and player into trouble with the league?
    
    Maybe I can understand the occasional obnoxious fan behavior (it
    can happen anywhere, although fights between fans and players seem 
    to be the solely the domain of the NHL), but NHL management's 
    response to such behavior is strictly WWF in nature.  When a home
    team fan physically assaults an opposing player and management 
    rushes to cast aspersions at the player, what can the message be to
    the fans but to come on down to the hockey game and mix it up with
    the big boys?
    
    glenn
    

    The fan was your basic hockey fan... That's why the NHL TV contract
    is only worth 3 million.....
    
    REK

While I was watching NESN Sports Desk the other morning, I thought I 
heard an interview with the fan who said "I just lost it and went after him"


How does that make the fan a liar?


Granted, I'm not aware of all the facts here.

    The "fan" said that Yazerman hit him with the butt end of the hockey
    stick... The replay clearly show that Yazerman did not go after the fan
    or have a stick in his hand...
    
    REK
    
    A great Boston bruin hockey fan show the world what great fans
    we have here in Boston!!!

    Actually John the stupid brawl keep on showing up in the
    sports report and the sports section of the newspapers... So I decided
    to check into this a little more... Hell, even the wrasling TV contract
    is worth more the hockey's TV contract.. says alot about what the
    sports has for fan appeal....
    
    REK

       Saw, the guy changed his story after he found out there was a tape
    of the incident. That's when he decided to say he just "lost it".
                                     Denny

       Hawk's right. Slasher likes DonKing, Dean Smif, and Hockey. How cain
    he be wrong!!
                                       Denny

Well, at least the fan admitted it, even belatedly.

There was a major brawl at the Civic Center back in the WHA days.
I was at the game.


It was between Cincinnati Stingers and the fans.  As they were leaving,
a fan poured a beer on the head of one of the Stinger's goons.  He
climbed into the stands.  Unfortunately, the goon (Schmedmo or some name
like that) picked the wrong fan to fight with -- not the beer thrower.

The fan tried to defend himself, and Thommy Abrahamsson, who was injured
and in the stands tried to intercede.  The brilliant Hartford Cop got
there and handcuffed the fan, while Schmedmo is still flailing away
at the guy's face....  

The beer thrower got away scot-free....


The Garden should do what the Civic Center does:  have a moveable canopy
to pull over the runway.  It prevents stuff like that.....


'saw

       Shows how smart Hockey fans are eh? Wasting good beer on a hockey
    player!
                                    Denny
    

Yzerman should've just kept walking. Once he turns and acknowledges the 
loser he is inviting trouble. Both parties are to blam. 



Steve

    
    REK, That fan is not the typical hockey fan.  He's just an ignorant
    tough guy tryin' to 1) impress his friends or 2) get some quick cashola
    (wasn't he spouting off about suing Yzerman, the Garden, Harry, et al?)
    
    Stick rasslin and leave the hockey discussions to those who know what
    they're talking about.  (Insert 1/2 a smiley here, 'cuz while I didn't
    like your comments, I know the reason for it...)
    
    *THE* true hockey fan,
    
    
    Cath

    
>    REK, That fan is not the typical hockey fan.  He's just an ignorant
>    tough guy tryin' to 1) impress his friends or 2) get some quick cashola
>    (wasn't he spouting off about suing Yzerman, the Garden, Harry, et al?)
     
    Still, is it mere coincidence that someone decided to take a swing at 
    a player immediately after a fifteen minute brawl on the ice had
    ended?  I think not.  No doubt this clown got caught up in the 
    phony "action" and in his small mind somehow felt he had to defend 
    his team against the bad guys...
                           
    I still can't understand why Harry Sinden would initially come to the 
    partial defense of this idiot.  Was it to deflect attention from the fact
    that the visiting players in the Garden are left unprotected?
    
    glenn
    
    

    First of all:
    
    REK knows nuthin' about hockey....he's proved that to me time in and
    time out.
    
    Second:
    
    Just because one bozo decides to behave in an inappropriate manner, it
    does not mean that all fans behave in the same fashion.  (Kind of like
    the Patriots & Red Sox scandals...a few bad apples, next thing you know
    you have that old stereotype thing going.  Its unfair to those of us who
    know how to behave in public places)
    
    Lastly:
    
    If Yzerman had hit the fan first, then I would say Yzerman is at fault.
    Since it was the fan who had hit Yzerman, I think the fan is the one at
    fault.  I hope that Yzerman prosecutes to the fullest extent of the
    law.  Incidents of this nature give bad publicity to sports fans.
    
    Jo

    Jo, I know alot more about hockey, I just don't know that much
    on GOONHOCKEY.... The kind that the NHL plays...
    
    REK
    
    NHL- National Hookeyhockey League..... 

    J,
    Sure Yzerman,the B's and the Gahden should prosecute the dope in the
    stands. I love hockey ,but not the goonism and fighting end of it.
    All the media brouhaha is focused on the fan striking Yzerman. And
    of course, the tolerated (by the NHL) mayhem continues on the ice.
    If that disgraceful scene at the end of the game was enacted in a
    different setting (i.e. da street), then 3/4 of both hockey teams would
    justifiably be settin in some cell. The duplicitous nature of the
    hockey moguls continues to ruin a great sport. Ban fighting, impose
    year-long suspensions on combatants, and crack down on the stick
    infractions. And get some league officials with some f#@%^* backbone.
    No wonder they have a measly deal with TV. Deesgustin'
    
    MikeL
    

    
    What happened to .114 - .118???
    
    
    Cath

    
>    Moved by moderator.

Stop that shit, Mac.  I'm sitting here trying to catch up on notes before
I go shower, and you're messing the hell outta my unseen map!


8^)

    RE: .113
    
    .Sure Yzerman,the B's and the Gahden should prosecute the dope in the
    .stands. I love hockey ,but not the goonism and fighting end of it.
    .All the media brouhaha is focused on the fan striking Yzerman. And
    .of course, the tolerated (by the NHL) mayhem continues on the ice.
    .If that disgraceful scene at the end of the game was enacted in a
    .different setting (i.e. da street), then 3/4 of both hockey teams would
    .justifiably be settin in some cell. The duplicitous nature of the
    .hockey moguls continues to ruin a great sport. Ban fighting, impose
    .year-long suspensions on combatants, and crack down on the stick
    .infractions. And get some league officials with some f#@%^* backbone.
    .No wonder they have a measly deal with TV. Deesgustin'
    
    MikeL,

	Boy, have you hit the nail right on the head.  As a Bruins fan
(yes, I still ADMIT it), I'm appalled that a fan would treat a player in
such a poor manner....I would hope that the Bruins would never have to
endure the same type of thing that Yzerman went through.

As for the goonism and fighting, I blame the NHL's president, John Ziegler,
and the inconsistent calls of the refs.  If a player feels that the chance
to commit a penalty and get away with it is there, then he'll try it.  The
other piece of it is I know people who do not watch hockey and still make
comments in reference to the fighting.  (i.e., they still think that's all
that happens at hockey games)  Its this kind of ignorance and bias that
hurts (and will continue to hurt) the game.  Why these people think this
is easy:  the media.  Seems that all the stations want to show are clips
of fights, its no wonder that people think its the only thing that goes
on in the game.  Its not just a set of rules that the NHL has to adjust,
its also the mindsets of many people.

Jo   

    Why was DeGudice (sp?) starting in goal for the B's last night, and not
    Andy Moog?
    
    
    py

       Coach said he had a great game against Buffalo and 2 cheap Saber
    goals at the end. He wanted to see how he did under some major league
    pressure at the Forum.
                                     Denny

    Surprised to see no mention about the bizzare play at the end of the
    Bruins-Nordiques game last night.   For those who missed it, it was 5-4
    Boston late in the third period; Quebec had pulled their goalie.  A
    Bruin intercepts a pass, then you've got two Bruins heading towards the
    Quebec goal with just a lone Nordique defensemen back there...and then
    someone on the Quebec bench threw a glove at one of the Bruins to try
    and stop him!!  (Lousy shot, he missed by a mile.)    I couldn't
    believe what I was seeing!  Boston was awarded a penalty shot as a
    result...unreal...
                                       
    
    py

    	Hey Paul, in all fairness they should've had the penalty shot
    against an empty net.
    
    				/Don

Ander Derek Sanderson said "Hey look, one of the Quebec players is giving 
Janney a hand."   Priceless....

            <<< Note 126.126 by AXIS::ROBICHAUD "DrM - Faux NOTY" >>>
>
>    	Hey Paul, in all fairness they should've had the penalty shot
>    against an empty net.
    
    Given a penalty shot on an empty net, Janney would still make the pass.
    
    Mark.

    They have been having trouble ever since lasted Thursday.  It has been
    reported to the moderator.  She is working on it.  The Baseball
    Conference is also affected since it's on the same node.  I've reported
    it to Mike Corbett and I haven't heard back from him yet.
    
    Be patient, I guess.
    
    John

Hey, whether the notes file is there or not, Rosie is still a goon!


hth,
'Saw

>          -< its being repaired by the American Literacy Foundation >-


Mike, that's cold...  True, but cold.

At the game I went to, the only people buying programs were the Whalers
fans....8^)

No, actually NO ONE was!


hahahahaha,
'Saw
    

Remember 'Saw that included you!! 8^)

Rosie may be a goon, but the main sure can shoot a puck! Did 
you see that winner he snaped in lasted night? Awesome.

Hey! some off use guyz cans reads in da Broonz not.


Steve

>	And he got the game winner again lasted night, and added
>an empty netter later on.
>
>Chap


He's pretty hot lately....


But he's still a GOON!  8^) 8^) 8^)


'Saw

    Good Riddance...... Oates is a much better all around player than
    Craig, besides Craig absolutely dissapears in the playoffs.
    
    You will see Ruszica (sp) and leach hit some high numbers this year, I
    predict Ruszica will come close to fifty.
    
    Besides with Poulin and Featherstone comming back, along with the
    addition of the Olympians down the line. There looking O.K. at center
    position. I feel this is the best move Management has made in awhile.
    
    -TH

    A sad note....
    
    
    Tommy Williams, former Bruin and Olympian ('60 gold medal
    team)...first American to play in the NHL....and most importantly, a
    good friend.....died Saturday after suffering a heart attack at his
    home in Hudson, MA.  He was 51 years old!!
    
    Anyone who ever had the pleasure of making his acquaintance has lost
    something very dear!!  My heart and prayers go out to his family.
    
    
    
    Nelly

    The B's want to raise the RPI quota after getting rid of Hammond and
    Carter.  Oates and Juneau (3 goals in 2 Olympic games) will help
    increase that....

    Hey Walt,
    Are these RPIite hockey players true engineers or Choo Choo Charlies??
    8^)
    I hope they sign Juneau as soon as the Olympics are over. He is a force
    for Canada. Plays both ways, is big, and can take the body. 
    If only Graeme Townsend could score!! That'd make 3 RPIers
    
    MikeL
    

    Juneau really was a EE I think.  Part of why he went to school all 4
    years instead of coming out early.  Oates and Townsend were either
    Management or Communication majors.  Puppa started off a Comp Sci
    before he quit school.
    
    Bruin favorite Mike McPhee was in the EE honorary society...

    
	I liked to see Juneau in a Broons sweater after the Olympics too,
	remember CJ and Joyce joining the B's in 88.

	But, from what I heard, Juneau wants the same type of one-way
	contract that Wes Walz wanted, and eventually got.  

	I don't think ole Botton-Line Harry will be too quick to give
	him that kinda contract.

	According to todays Globe, Juneau has a number of offers in
	Europe if he can't sign with the B's.


Chap

    
    Hey Slash, what's the basis of your suit? Pinched protusion,
    slivered seat, bruised buttocks?? Sue for many $$$$'S!!!
    
    
    
    Steve

    	Digger, I'm filing a habeus corpus for my gluteus maximus, 'cuz
    those seats do constitute unlawful restraint.
    
    				/Don

    re: .148
    
    Love the pname. SI has some nerve to delay the swimsuit issue for the
    Winter Olympics. I wonder if we can sue SI for false representation if
    that issue doesn't come out in February.
    
    The Crazy Met
    

    
    >>    <<< Note 126.145 by AXIS::ROBICHAUD "IWantMySISwimsuitIssue!" >>>
    >>                         -< I'm suing Jacobs! >-
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    
    Now Slasher, what in the hail did I have to do with anything????
    
    BTW, it's "JACOB", no ess.
    
    JaKe
    

    re: .151 
    
    look who's talking :-)
    
    The Crazy Met
    

    It was a prearranged job that raised 10k for local youth charities.I
    think it was the boys club ?
    
    I listened to Orr on the radio this morning and the DJ's were baiting
    him into how bad Lobel was. Trus to being a class guy he did'nt say
    anything bad about Lobel tending the net. Well he was being ribbed so
    bad that he finnally said, O.K.O.K., 'He stinks!'
    
    I was rolling.
    
    He did peg him in the 'nads, but said he was sorry.8<0
    
    -TH

Who's Lobel?  Some bank exec?  A writer?


I always remember George Plimpton, when he talked about his experience
tending goal, referring to getting hit in the "berries"


'Saw

>Who's Lobel?  Some bank exec?  A writer?

The WBZ-TV Channel 4 Sportscaster

    Bob Lobel... sports reporter (ha) for channel 4.

    That's Bob Lobel... channel 4 sports reporter... In case you missed it.
    
    

That Lobel guy wouldn't by any chance be a SPORTS reporter for Channel 4
would he?



Slasher.  Since Denny and I are what might be termed "substantial" men,
and since the seats are not fixed, I was wondering what the physical
attributes of the other two gents are.  Four prop butts might be
difficult in broken seats....


'Saw

    It's "you stupid dick!!"
    
    
    HTH,
    
    Nelly

    Bob Lobel is the stoopid dick channel 4 sportscaster, fyi.  HTH.
    
    

    	'Saw, the didn't say anything if you stood in front of the sacred
    Molson sign lasted night.  Maybe Molson is not renewing nexted year?
    
    				/Don

    Lobel is FAMOUS for showing outstanding plays of players who
    used to play for one of the Boston teams.... And saying...
    
    "Why can't we get players like that..."
    
    REK

    
    Lobel had a clip of the offending shot last night with a soprano aria
    in the background.  Gotta admit, I got a chuckle out of it...
    
    glenn
    
    

    	My friend's 11 year old son *knew* who Lobel was, *didn't know*
    who Orr was.  8^(
    
    				/Don

    Really weird to see Lobel in a uniform and Orr in jeans and a Baybanks
    sweatshirt...
    

    With da Maine Mariners going under, where will da Broons have their
    farm team nexted year?
    

Walt,

I saw an article about a month back that talked about Providence
trying to get a hockey team.  It did mention that the Mariners' 
lease was up at the end of the year.

Did the team actually fold?

Mike

       I think the Whalers should be the Broons farm team.
                              Denny

    Providence might be a logical choice. I remember going to see the old
    Rhode Island Reds play at the Providence Auditorium quite a few years
    ago and they got pretty good support. If they became associated with
    the Bruins, they might very well draw interest from southeastern
    Massachusetts as well as the greater Providence area.
    
    Rich
    

    The Worcester Centrum's management has been making noise for a long
    time about getting an AHL team...

       I was just going to axe that MAc. Woostah would be great!
                                 Denny

    I haven't heard of anything official, Denny.  It's just that I remember
    when the Centrum opened they were talking about in order to keep a
    facility like that afloat, they can't depend only on concerts and truck
    pulls.  Regular tenants like an AHL team would really help.  They were
    looking into it, but the proximity to Springfield, Boston, and Hartford
    probably hurt.  There was also the problem of a small rink (which I
    think has since been fixed along with the improvements done to
    guarantee them the NCCA basketball bid).  There also didn't seem to be
    alot of interest over the past few years in an AHL expansion.  If the
    Mariners are indeed looking for a new home, I'm sure the Centrum would
    welcome them with open arms.  Being the Bruin's farm team I'm sure
    there'd be instant fan support.

    Actually, AHL teams do well if they can draw about 7K-8K a game. And,
    believe me, ticlet prices won't be $3 a pop either. I wonder if
    Providence or Worcester could guarantee getting 8K in the stands every
    game. THAT is where the proximity to Hartford and Boston hurt. 
    
    Worcester has a big enough metro area where Springfield wouldn't hurt
    at all. But, mind you, the parent club  does not pick up the tab for
    all the salaries of all the players on an AHL roster. And, the AHL team
    must pay the facility costs. Are there pockets of money willing to
    invest in a shaky venture in Worcester today?
    
    Problem is, you have pretty good high school hockey in greater
    Worcester at a very low cost to the fan. Then you have the college game
    just a few miles away in Boston. Plus you have a lot of folks who have
    paid money to NESN or SC or both to watch the Bruins and Whalers. Can
    the Worcester area count on 8,000-10,000 people to plunk down $10-$12
    for each home game to see minor league hockey?
    
    Rich
    

       So what's the story with the Mariners? Did they fold, move, what? I
    caught the tail end of the story on the nooze lasted night and all I
    heard was the broons needed a new farm team.
                               Denny

    From back page, USA Today, copied w/o permission:
    
    The financially troubled Maine Mariners suspended operations Tuesday,
    ending the AHL team's 15-year history in Portland.  The Mariner's
    5-year affiliation with the Boston Bruins expired at the end of this
    season.
    

    Where's Conehead going to go when he gets da boot ?
    
    -TH

       Thanks Walt. They're homeless then.

    I thought I heard Dale Arnold say the minor league Broons affilation
    would be somewhere in upstate NY or Pennsie.  The idea was to
    discourage the bee-line between the two clubs.
    
    Mark.

'Saw, you still thimk that the Bruins already had their 'bad' game?

Ugh, that was pitiful lasted night. The B's will have to do some 
major plumbing and get their heads out of their arses for game 7
or it's all over.



Steve

    
    
    re  MAriners...
    
    
    When the Centrum opened, and the Bruins played their first game there,
    
    there were some rumors about the Bruins reactivating the old Braves
    franchise, that they still own.
    
    
    	Lou

Well, so I was wrong.

Unfortunately, I didn't get to see any of the game last night (probably just
as well).   I did hear a snatch of it on 1440 AM as I left the gym, but as I
headed WEST into Glastonbury, a more local 1440AM stomped on it with the
Yankees game (of all things!).


I look at the Bruins and see a ton of potential there.  I think they can
take it in 7, but even if they don't, there's a lot of good things to 
look at for next season.  

First, you've got guys like Juneau, Murphy, Heinz on the squad.  As they
mature, you gonna see big things from them.   Adam Oates and Rosie have
filled in a lot of gaps -- big gaps -- left because Cam Neely isn't there.

So, even if this ins't their year, the next couple are looking awfully good
from here.



As to the Whale, they are actually cutting their own throats with this
playoff performance.   Now the fans are saying "Okay, why didn't they play
like this during the regular season?"

Don't like the dearth of Bruins coverage in the Hartford papers....


'Saw

> As to the Whale, they are actually cutting their own throats with this
> playoff performance.   Now the fans are saying "Okay, why didn't they play
> like this during the regular season?"

  cause the regular season don't mean squat anyways. If it did both, them and
  the DEBILS would have been swept....proof you don't have to bust them all
  year long to have a meaningful season. 

  mike

 

Agreed Mike, except one thing.  The regular season does mean squat to the
owners, and the Civic Center. 

I think a lot of the Civic Center revenue at this time of year depends on 
the Whalers.   Nights that are reserved for hockey games with a paltry
5K-8K attendance, could be sold out for concerts booked were there no hockey.

When attendance is down, the Civic Center doesn't get as much in their cut.


However, in hockey terms, you are truly right -- especially when a fourth
place team with the 3rd worst record in hockey can have a chance to knock
off a division winner....


'Saw

 I was thinking about that Saw but they really aren't that many bands who
 could fill the joint. Of those that could not all of them are on tour at 
 the same times. Even if they were like the sportsfan how many dollars
 could concertgoers spend in a week going to concerts drug pushers exclude
 naturally? 

 Sure busting hump during the year might bring in a couple of K more fans
 a week but then if they bust in the playoffs it's a catch 22. If you do 
 better in the playoffs you build hope for next year. Besides most of those
 Huskies' fans have hard enough time remeber all the refs in the Big East
 on a first name basis, how da heil they going to do that in the NHL? They'll
 need cheatsheats...

 ;^)

Mike, you got a point, but that's the basis of what the Civic Center
has been saying.

The number one act at the Civic Center is the Whalers.  If they don't draw
well, the Civic Center loses money....

Personally, I'd like to see just the playoffs.  Draw the name out of the hat
in October, and then do the playoffs like they do now.  

hell, if that's the case then maybe the Queebs would have a chance 8^)


'Saw

    	The difference between 2K-4K less per 40 home games at $30.00
    a ticket is pretty significant.  The owners could make the regular
    season meaningful if they eliminated the fourth place team and gave
    the division champ a bye, but they're all in this to make money
    first, win second and care about the quality of the game third.
    
    				/Don

If they had a national TV contract, they wouldn't have to worry so much
about the playoffs getting them all kinds of dinero....


'Saw

    saw,
    still on the broons bandwagon,a fter derailing off of the  whale
    
    express?
    
    dinz
    

>    still on the broons bandwagon,a fter derailing off of the  whale
>    express?


Dinzdale,  8^)

I'm just rekindling the Broons flame that has lived inside for years.

I made a tragic and dire mistake in 1979 when I was loyal to the local
team -- a team of decent players (in some years) with buffoon-like
management.

Recently I saw the error of my ways, and like the Prodigal Son in the
Bible, I returned home to the fold.


The Whalers, despite their lucky performance in the playoffs, are a hurting
organization.....


hth,
'Saw   


8^)    

    	'Saw are you bringing your goolie's mask tonight?  I always
    wear mine for BIG 7th games.
    
    				/Don

    
    IMO,
    
    It would be a clear demonstration of your public acknowledgement
    of past misteaks if you would delete the Whalers notesfile.  Then
    we would know that you're not talking with fourked tongue!
    
    I remain,
    skeptical 'bout you......
    
    Kev
    

       'saw will have his goulie mask tonight so none a the girls will
    recognize him!
                                  Denny

 Saw, Bruins win, Whalers win, Whalers beat Bruins can I get copy of the tape
 of you talking to Mom???

 ;^)

    	Better yet, if Mike's scenario unfolds can you get a tape of
    the first phone call your brother gives you?
    
    				/Don

Mom hates the Whalers as much as I do.  She's been pulling for the Canadiens,
except she hates Patrick Rooo-Wah.  8^)

And I found out that my brother is actually a Pittsburgh Penguins fan
now (hear that Jake?)....  Guess his loyalties went west with Ronnie
Francis.


Now, I don't have my mask tonight, but I do have the start of my
"playoff beard".....


As to deleting the Whalers conference, I suppose I can do that at some
point.  Just haven't gotten around to it.  Haven't noted in there in
months (or at all this season).....


My 7th grade science teacher, Rick Niedbala (pronounced Nibla) is responsible
for me being a rabid Broons fan most of my life.  I was a Broons fan
earlier than 7th grade, when they won the cup, but he was just outta
college, had long hair and a fu-manchu, and he taught science in 
hockey metaphors.  

Every Friday, our week's review of the work we had covered was done
as a quiz game, and the winning team would always get free ice cream from the
cafe.  All of the teams had names based on the team Captain, except the
Bruins.  You got on the Bruins if you had one of the four highest averages
in the class.  Since I had the highest average I was a Broon every
friday....  We won a lot, lost a few, and had a GREAT time.

The room was decorated with Bruins posters -- Bobby Orr flying through the
air, a team poster, and during the seasons, the previous days standings
were posted on the bulletin board every day.

7th Grade Science, along with 8th Grade US History, and Shakespeare in
senior year were my favorite courses in all of school....


'Saw

    	Okay then 'Saw, how 'bout a tape of the first phone call you
    gits from dInZ?  8^)
    
    				/Don

>    	Okay then 'Saw, how 'bout a tape of the first phone call you
>    gits from dInZ?  8^)
>    
>    				/Don


Hell you don't need a tape of that.  Just frame this and look at it
if that happens:


	Hey hey, ha, ha, Frankie BABY... how 'bout them Flounders!
	You shoulda stayed on the Bandwagon!

	Hey BABY, how bout my Whalers... they're gonna take the Cup
	Franwa.....



hth,
'Saw

       For those without NESN and not going to the noody bar tonight, the
    Broons are putting the game on Ch38. This screwed Dicky Vitale outta
    his chance to do the Socks game.
                                 Denny

HEY WHAT HAPPENED TO MA TEXT?

Dude,

I don't know what happened to you text.  However, I know that lasted
week I was writing a note in another file and lost part of my text
there, also....


Who knows....


'Saw

It vanished into a black node! If I'm not mistaken that victory
by the B's lasted night was their first at da Forum thised season.
A very rare bad game by Roowah. He just didn't seem to have his
concentration. Maybe he's a bit tired, that's ok wif me!!! 
Big win for the B's!



Steve

Roo-wah is NOT without his weaknesses.  Derek outlined them on the
broadcast last night, and they were weaknesses that the Whalers
sought to exploit -- and did a fair job of.


Go high on Roo-wah, he'll go down early and give up the top corners.
Catch him off guard.  Be relentless with him.


He is a great goalie, but like Goliath, he does have his weaknesses.



GREAT job by the B's in taking the body, and great job in not retaliating
when the Habs got chippy.....


'Saw

    
    First game da Broons have taken in overtime at the Forum in our
    lifetimes (except for lEe), according to the radio.
    
    Thank you very much, Chris Nilan, for the stupid penalty.  This is more
    than you ever did to help da Broons when you were a Broon.
    
    SET MODE="ROONEY.WHINE"  Didja ever notice how the T.V. "Broons player
    of the game" just happens to be the guy that is credited with the
    winning goal, even if it accidently deflects in off him?  The "Red Sox
    player of the game" is also often the guy who hits into a double play,
    scores a guy from third, and that run just happens to be the game
    winner.
    
    Two games taken out of Montreal!  My, that's sweet.  Also heard on the
    radio this morning that Les Canadiennes are 0-fer a whole bumch in road
    games at the end of this season and in the playoffs.
    
    Dickstah
    

    re .210:
    
    >	Les Canadiennes are 0-fer a whole bumch in road
    >   games at the end of this season and in the playoffs.
            
    The Canadiens last road win was in early March against the Islanders.
    
    
    It's never over 'til it's over, but up 2-0 and heading back to Boston
    da Broons are definitely in the driver's seat.
    
    Hope this series ends quick and the Patrick final goes 7...
    
    
    py
                                    

>    First game da Broons have taken in overtime at the Forum in our
>    lifetimes (except for lEe), according to the radio.

WOW!   When lEe saw the last one, they actually were using animal bones
strapped to their feet for skates.  hth.
    
    
>    SET MODE="ROONEY.WHINE"  Didja ever notice how the T.V. "Broons player
>    of the game" just happens to be the guy that is credited with the
>    winning goal, even if it accidently deflects in off him?  The "Red Sox
>    player of the game" is also often the guy who hits into a double play,
>    scores a guy from third, and that run just happens to be the game
>    winner.


Yes, I've noticed that.  Never mind the fact that Andy Moog kept them
in the game, or that Joe Juneau was doing his Terminator impression:

	"He doesn't feel pain, he doesn't feel pity, he doesn't know
	 fear and he WILL NOT STOP until he's scored a goal!"


Nothing against Douris.  I mean, in a Stanley Cup OT game, you KNOW that
the guy who scores the winning goal is gonna be PoTG.  And Douris DID
redirect the puck slightly with his stick.

But in your typical game, Dickstah Rooney, you are RIGHT, SIR!


    
>    Two games taken out of Montreal!  My, that's sweet.  Also heard on the
>    radio this morning that Les Canadiennes are 0-fer a whole bumch in road
>    games at the end of this season and in the playoffs.
    
Yes, it does impart a tingle to certain areas of one's anatomy, doesn't
it.

I would not get over-confident if I were the Broons.  They must go out
and play the same type of game they've been playing -- hard checking,
hard charging hockey.....


'Saw

    

    People were feeling pretty good when the went 3-1 up on Buffalo, too.
    As any B's fan knows, you can never count out the Habs in the playoffs.
    
    Tom

    Last night was the first time in Broons history that they took Games 1
    and 2 in the Forum.
    
    Mark.

    
    Well, I have my Christmas gift list all figured out. For all my hockey
    lovin' relatives, I heard the PERFECT gift idea on the radio last
    night. Driving home from the gym, I hear an ad on WEEI hawking a
    Rene Rancourt (B's national anthemn singer) CD and tape. Now you
    can have your own collection of Rene's favorite anthemns ( American,
    Canadian, Russian, God Bless America, Finucula Finiculi, etc.) at
    a low cost. I almost drove off the road I was so excited! Rapture!
    
    I'm SO happy to see the Lounge Lizard supplementing his income.
    Gotta love free enterprise.
    
    8^)
    MikeL
    

    Rene Rancourt has a band that plays at a lot of weddings and a lot of
    Hockey Krishnas have his band play at their weddings.  His number one
    requested song at these weddings is the Canadian National Anthem.
    
    John

My main objections to Rene Rancourt are:

	o He sings TOO slowly.   National Anthems are patriotic
	  songs -- not dirges.

	o His vibrato is so wide he tends to sound off-key.  This
	  is similar to the late Ethel Merman, who had a tremendously
	  wide vibrato.


Other than that, he's, well, uh, er, uh, um, interesting....


'Saw


PS  Anyone know the going price for a Broons jersey w/ number and name?

That's the price I was quoted in the Whaler's gift shop for an
authentic game version, with the straps inside for the pads.

The "regular" ones in the gift shop were $70, I think.


The guy tried to tell me that the only difference is the straps for the
pads.  Well, I've never seen any straps that go for $55.  I think the
regular ones are a much lighter material, and the game versions are a
little heavier...I think....


'Saw

    
    ...Can't believe Rene Rancourt has a band that plays at weddings, haha!
    I'd rather have Happy Kyne And The Myrth Makers from Fernwood Tonight!
    
    ...The 'late' Roger Doucette who used to sing for the Canadiens, now
    there's a guy who could sing.
    
    ...Mel

    Yup, there are too levels of game sweaters.  The lightweight kind are
    not the real and true authentic item that an NHL player would wear
    (sort of the equivalent of an adjustable baseball hat).  My Blackhawks
    sweater is that kind and it cost me around $70.  The heavyweight kind
    are exact replicas of what an NHL player would wear.  It's a heavier
    material and it does have all the straps and other paraphernalia in
    there.  Depending on the team, it goes for $100-150.  To use hat
    terminology, buying one of these is like buying a fitted, wool baseball
    cap instead of the adjustable kind.
    
    John
    
    PS - Rancourt actually signs the anthems a bit more quickly than most
    of his counterparts.  No one beat John Kiley on the organ, though.  He
    was consistently between 50-55 seconds on the Star Spangled Banner (I
    used to time him) and could do both anthems in under two minutes.

    typo in first sentence of previous reply - it should read two levels of
    game sweaters.
    
    Ninj

    
    ...And John Kiley on the organ, hahahaha! (again). There's a guy who
    could really whip the crowed into a frenzy, eh?
    
    ...Mel

    
    Typo in second paragraph of your note too, Ninj.  Renee doesn't "sign"
    the national anthem unless he's performing for the deaf. ;^0
    

    Ha ha, good catch, Dickster!!
    
    'Saw, If you supply the sweater, I'll sign it and you can pick the
    number you want on it.   $5.
    
    LT

    Roger Doucet could send chills down the spine! I remember vividly the
    first Canada Cup involving Sweden, Czechoslovakia, USSR, Finalnd, and
    the US & Canada, where he learned the lyrics of all the national
    anthems, with the correct pronounciation. Even the players were
    impressed, I mean how many people can speak Finnish, much less sing
    like a native speaker?
    
    He also used to sing at the Expos games for special occasions like
    Opening Day, Victoria Day, etc.
    
    Tom

    
    My favorite anthem singer is Tony Harrington (?) from Hartfuhd.  Man,
    cain he sing!
    
    Rene sips.  I'm sure he's a great guy, but shoot the person that told
    him he could sing.  
    
    
    
    
    Cath

    Sheez, this talk of the guy that attempts to preform the Anthem for the
    Broons games reminds me of what I wanted to put in here 2sday.
    
    When listening to Saturday's game on the radio, this guy starts
    cranking out the anthem and me and the wife and 2 of the 3 kids are in
    the car, my wife turns to me and says somebody should dial "911" cause
    this guy could only be having a heart attack to sound that bad.
    
    I was rollward.
    
    JaKe
    

       Ron Harry the organ grinder at the Gahden now, used to play at the
    lounge a a sleazy Fitchburg Motel.
                                            Denny

    Not regarding the Bruins but..Pat Burns quit as Montreal coach today
    and signed a 4 year deal with the Toronto Maple Leafs.
    
    
    Tom

    
    ...Just read in the Bruins note file/...Apparently someone was at
    Brad Parks Sports Center and was talking to Brad himself. The person
    knows that Brad plays golf with Neeley, so he asked how is Cam these
    days?
    ....According to Park, Neeley is NO closer to coming back any better
    or even close to 100%. He thinks Neely could be another Kluzak story.
    
    ...Mel

       Broons released Lyndon Byers yesterday.
                                    Denny

    Parade in June!
    
    Mark.

Go Broons!

The secret is to pepper Burke with lots o' shots....  He faced 37
the other night against the Habs.

I wish there was more coverage of the Broons in the Courant.


How long is Cam supposed to be out?


'Saw

       Cam says about 5-6 more weeks. He skated Mon. and Wed.
                                   Denny

    
    Neely had knee surgery, and while they were at it, they implanted a
    tiny video transmitter in his leg. Look for a new perspective of the
    game action with the Cam-cam.
    
    Dickstah
    

    
    Da Broons look like the same old Broons.  Dump the puck in the corner
    and try to throw it toward the middle and once in a while it goes in. 
    Their shots on net total was deceiving lasted night, just about
    doubling that of the Whale.  The quantity was there, but not the
    quality.  I wasn't impressed, despite the win.  They're still a second
    tier team without finesse or firepower.
    
    Hey, those new Whale uniforms are a real improvement.
    
    
    Dickstah
    

    
    Whaler's harpooned!!!!!
    
    Spills blubber during OT!!!!!
    
    Crew heads back to base to do skinning on Island tomorrow!
    
    I remain,
    Meester Bly's mate!
    Kev
    

Dickster, you're pretty much right on, but they did find a way to win.


The Whalers away unis look good, but their home unis aren't quite what
they used to be....


I have a question:

	Sports Channel, which I get for free, was showing the Whalers
	(a rare away game for SC to show)

	NESN was showing the Broons, but for me it was blacked out.
	I pay for NESN.  I don't understand why it was blacked out.
	I mean, I'm paying for the goddam channel, I should be able
	to see it if I want.   That sucks.


'Saw

       I'd certainly call the cable comany and complain. I'd call NESN too
    and tell them what happened.
                                       Denny

    re:-2
    
       I don't understand why your Bruins on NESN was blacked out. I have
    NESN and I watched the game. I also have SPORTSCHANNEL and there was a
    soccer game on. It probably depends upon the cable company.
    
      Jim

It's probably because SC in Hartford has the local rights to the 
game.  It's the same reason why the game was on NESN in Boston,
but not on SC.

Mike

>It's probably because SC in Hartford has the local rights to the 
>game.  It's the same reason why the game was on NESN in Boston,
>but not on SC.

Yeah, but that really sucks.  I mean, I PAY for NESN to be able to
see Bruins telecasts.  I don't dislike Cheevers and Peckham, but I'd
have preferred Fred and Derek.


Damn cable companies have you by the cojones...


'Saw

    	Hey 'Saw tell the cable company you want a rebate for last night's
    blacked out NESN game.  Better yet tell them to get the money from
    NESN.  That ought to get Harry's mind off what Mario is getting
    paid.
    
    				/Don

 >> I don't dislike Cheevers and Peckham, but I'd
 >> have preferred Fred and Derek.

  you must be a gang of one then....

  ;^)

    	I did agree with Dickstah, but then I read the Globe and found
    out what a great game I watched!  What a team!  I am now eagerly
    anticipating another ticket price increase!
    
    				/Don

Mike, I think my statement was misleading.

I don't particularly LIKE Fred and Derek (in fact, I think Peckham and
Cheevers are better) but my ONLY source of Broons news is Fred and Derek.

In between times they talk about Broons players, where on SC you hear
about Whalers players (which if I'm interested in I can read in da paper).

So, it's the content more than the personalities.


I can only IMAGINE what Derek said when that Whaler tomahawked that Broon
on the break on the Whalers goal....


;^)

    	Compost Character?  Yes I did run into quite a few of them (yuppie,
    FauxFortyNiner fains) yesterday.
    
    				/Don

    
    
    
                Bob Sweeney League MVP 92-93.  News at 11....
    
    Chap(PY)

    Bob Sweeney is and always will be a slug. Period. Flashes of
    brilliance, but usually a dim light. Nothing in the playoffs, or after
    the allstar break. Just skate in circles Bob. Do nothing Bob.
    
    -TH

Well, Rosie got the hat trick lasted night against the Senators.

I watched most of the game until Northern Exposure came on....


Why are they pronouning Juneau's name differently?  I thought it was
like the city in Alaska.  Now they are making it sound like some
french wine -- zhooo-know...


Go Broons!

'Saw

    
    I guess Juneau and his family quietly corrected the we Americans'
    pronounciation of his name...  The way they're saying it now (zhoe-ay
    Zhooo-know) is the proper way to say his name.
    
    A fountain of useless information,
    
    Cath

Well, I thought that Joo-know had a more mainly ring to it.

Kinda like a fighter, you know, Joe Juneau.  Manly like....



Chainsaw  (which the french would pronounce shayne-saw....yeah RIGHT)

    Just pronounce RPI '90....

    
    Lasted night was the first B's game I've seen since the opener, and I
    was very impressed with the quick passing attack which hasn't been seen
    in these parts since the great-ape ancestors of modern-day man lost
    their tails and evolved into hockey players.  Good to see their offense
    averaging over 5 goals a game, although they still don't have a chance
    in a shootout against teams like the Pens.
    
    Dickstah
    

Bruins got slapped by the Buffalo Blades lasted night 7-2.  They took a 
beating physically too, with Adam Oates and Joe Juneau both getting hammered
with 'questionable' hits (READ: cheap shots).

But it was good to see Bob Sweeney finally playing up to his potential -
0 goals 0 assists 4 minutes in penalties.


Chap

    
    The hit on Oates was a classic hit, totally clean. He was caught with
    his head down, and paid the price. I wish more people would hit like
    that, what he recieved was a good old fashioned shoulder to the solar
    plexis.
    
    He was dazed for the remainder of the game.
    
    -TH

TH, the reason I classified the hit on Oates as questionable was because
Wood hit him from behind. If the hit would have been from the side, or
straight-on, I would agree that it was a "classic hit".

I don't think there is any question that Bodger's hit on Juneau was, "of 
the cheap variety" as Derek would say.

It'll be interesting to see if the B's can bounce back tonight against a
very good (11-5-2) Calgary team, especially with Lemelin scheduled to be in
goal.

Chap

    
    Chap, Are you talking about the hit when I think Wood came out of the
    PB ? That was straight on, and he nailed him. Nothing chaep about that.
    I missed the Juneau hit. Quite sad when you team gets blasted by
    the Sabres  in the Aud, and there is no one on the B's to Smack anyone
    around. (Hughes maybe, Bank definetly not)
    
    The Sabres are hot in their building, Lafontaine is a one man show.
    
    -TH

-TH, I didn't actually see the hit on Oates, I was switching between the
Bruins game and the Celtics game.  I was going by what the announcers were
saying about it. That Wood "blind-sided" Oates, I took that to mean he hit
Oates from behind. But after reading the game report in the Globe, it may 
have been more of a case of catching Oates with his head down. In which 
case I would agree with you, it was a good clean hit, and not a cheap shot.

Also true is the fact that the B's don't have a true enforcer.  Banks is
suppose to play the role, but I haven't seen it yet.  Further more, I have
yet to see him win a fight.

These are not the Big Bad Bruins of old.  Where's Johnnie MacKenzie when
we need him. :-)

Chap

    
    Chap,
    
    Agreed Banks is a true stiff all around, can't skate, can't shoot,
    can't score. He's big, ~ 6'3" but fast as an upsidedown catsup bottle
    on a cold day. I had an ear to ear grin when Oates got popped, not
    wishing he was hurt or anything, but it was a great hit. It had all the
    elements of producing a woodie. Forward comming through the neutral
    zone, picks up pass in his skates and looks down while crossing the red
    line. Whats this ? Randy Wood's penalty was up and he's comes out of
    the box, tucks his shoulder and Oates was toast. Good and clean, no
    running steps, or hitting from behind. 
    
    Seldom is a hit like that even used anymore, let alone seen. Oates was
    clearly dazed, but it was'nt life threatning. A whack of a smelling
    salt and 40 minutes of pine riding. He'll be fine.
    
    That's the great thing about hockey, offense can hit offense, anywhere
    on the playing surface. Put your head down, and it's could be
    disasterous....
    
    
    -TH

-TH I finally saw the hit on Oates. Absolutely a clean hit, as a matter of
fact, probably one of the best I've ever seen. No wonder Oates was "dazed
and confused" the rest of the game.

Broons douse Flames 5-3 at da Garden lasted night.  Game winner scored by
Gordie "I'm older than God" Roberts.  Not a bad game by Reggie either.

Chap

    	Lemelin is playing better than Moog.  Just more proof of the
    staying power the Geritol Generation has.
    
    				/Don

       Yeah Reggie cain handle one game every 2 weeks eh?
                                    Denny

    
    Reggie is still a very good goalie, barring injury he could still play
    for a few more years. This is of course if he gets a defense in front
    of him. Reggie plays the angles very well, and he is a much more
    focused competator while in net, than say a younger goalie. He has to
    be, becauseif he's not he's toast.
    
    .02$
    
    -TH

Reggie, to me, is the Otis Anderson of hockey.

He's knows he's old, he knows he's not an everyday competitor anymore,
but he can come in when called on and get the job done.....


'Saw

    
    >He's knows he's old, he knows he's not an everyday competitor
but he can come in when called on and get the job done.....
    
    
    Reminds me of our own lEe, a sage of a man whose years of experience in
    the trials and tribulations of life serve as a guiding beacon of wisdom 
    to all of us.  There's a man I greatly admire.
    
    -JDickstah
    
    

    	Hallelujah!  After only a brief 10 month wait, the venerable
    Boston Garden finally fixed my seats!!  Glad to see that the money
    garnered from the ticket price increase is being put to good use!
    God bless Harry Sinden!
    
    				/Don

    Doo da Broons play at San Hosey again thised see-zun?
    

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>    	Hallelujah!  After only a brief 10 month wait, the venerable
>    Boston Garden finally fixed my seats!!  Glad to see that the money
>    garnered from the ticket price increase is being put to good use!
>    God bless Harry Sinden!
>    
>    				/Don
    
    
    Ah... ?Don how many seats do you have?
    
    REK

I am very disappointed. I figured by the time I got in all the early bird 
noters would have already written odes to the human spirit. Poems that
praised the improbable; prose that glorified a team that could
come back from what appeared a hopeless situation with thier 2 star 
players out of action. But I guess people here are to biased to
appreciate such things when it happens against the Bruins.

For the uninformed: Bruins led the Rangers 5-2 with 6 and 1/2 minutes
left in the game. Rangers scored 4 goals (last one with 35.9 seconds left)
to beat the Bruins 6-5.

The Crazy Met

  >> But I guess people here are to biased to appreciate such 
  >> things when it happens against the Bruins.

     Gee, that sounds more like something a certain other noter would
     write. [HINT: His initials are JD]
    

Karen, get it right it is 1940!!

Sheesh!

The Crazy Met

    I thought I said 1940 lasted time and someone 'corrected' it to 1941.
    
    Doesn't matter 'cause it was still eons ago.

Actually I once mistyped 1941 and someone corrected it to 1940.

The Crazy Met

    Hey Craz,
    
    When you gonna wize up and find a winning team to back.  Wanna borrow
    one of my spare black and gold hats to wear (i.e. Bucs, Pens,
    Steelers)?
    
    nyuk,nyuk
    
    Bill

Bill get a clue.

None of the teams you mentioned finished in last place.

The Crazy Met

    Ok...maybe not in the basement, but certainly on the last few steps.
    DOn't be so senstive Craze!  It's the holiday season.
    
    Bill

Not touchy, just being an objective observer and noter. Want to make sure
the facts are not distorted by some Pirate/Steeler-dweebs :-)

    
    Rangers trade Tie Domi to Winnipeg. His first game in a Winnipeg
    uniform is against the Bruins. He scores a goal. Gotta love the guy :-)
    
    Without Domi, Rangers lose to the Caps 4-3 in OT, blowing a 3-1 lead.
    Trade musta had somethin' to do with this :-)
    
    The Crazy Met
    

    	The Winnipeg Jets sold over 1,000 tickets for last night's game
    after announcing the trade.  Guess the good people of Winnipeg don't 
    realize that fighting alienates fans from hokey.  Guess they need
    to be educated.
    
    				/Don

    
    > The Winnipeg Jets sold over 1,000 tickets for last night's game
    > after announcing the trade.  Guess the good people of Winnipeg don't 
    > realize that fighting alienates fans from hokey.  Guess they need
    > to be educated.
    
    Don't much matter.  1000 fans in Winnipeg aren't going to get hockey a
    decent TV contract.  Hey, hockey can be wherever it wants to be; it's
    totally their decision.  If the future of hockey is higher and higher
    ticket prices for a limited number of fans, then they're right where
    they want to be already (at least in Boston).
    
    glenn
    

Broons haven't been playing too well lately, losing a few, but they
did beat the Whalers, 3-2 in OT the other night.  Adam Oates got
two more goals.   The kid is on fire these days.....


'Saw