Conference 7.286::sports_91

Well, either you're closing your eyes to a situation you do
not wish to acknowledge, or you are unaware of the caliber
of disaster indicated by the presence of a pool table in your
community!

Weeeeell, ya got trouble my friends, I say trouble right here
in River City, why sure I'm a billiard player, always mighty
proud, I'm always mighty proud to say it.  I consider that the
hours that I spend with a cue in my hand are golden - help to
cultivate horse sense, and cool head and keen eye.

But just I say it takes brains and maturity to score in a balk line game,
any boob, can take and shove a ball in a pocket, pockets that
mark the difference, between a gentleman and a bum, with a capital
B and that rhymes with P and stand for POOL!

Now I know all you folks are the right kind of parents, so let
me tell ya 'bout what goes on in the pool hall, shirt tail younguns
peeking in the pool hall window after school.  They'll be trying out
bevo, tryin' out q-bebs, tryin' out tailor-mades like cigarette fiends,
listen to some outta town jasper talkin' bout horse-race gamblin,
not a wholesome trottin' race, no, but a race where they sit down
right on the horse.  Like to see some stuck up jockey boy sittin'
on Dan Patch?  Make your blood boil, well I should say!

(more to follow)

(and of course I'm sure I messed some of it up!)

    I have  a 4-6 man group that gets together every monday evening for
    3 hrs of freindly pool, dont play any ternaments, not that we stink
    just not good enough to get into it. During the summer months we usally
    play golf every monday and then go shoot pool...I play at alot of new
    pool halls in the Hudson/marlboro/maynard area, they have recently put
    in 3 new pool halls and the tables are excellant.
    
    								M_AIR_B

    I like the play pools best.  There's nothing like playing water hoops
    or volleyball under the Arizona sun!
    
    Mike

    
>>    	Geez, do I always have to start this note??
    
Damn, when I saw your sign in note I thought "better start off the billiards
note so he doesn't have to do it again..."

Anyway, how about bringing that nifty pool table that we had in CAM::SPORTS
last year, GTI??  Neat way to show shots...

While I'm here, could someone put the rules to 9 Ball in here.  I believe you
need to start with the 1 ball and work your way through unless you can pull off
a combination in between.  I've never played it and would like to enter a
tournament once for the heck of it.

rick  

    
    	Basically, 9-ball is a rotational game.  You have to hit the
    	lowest-numbered ball on the table first, and then anything
    	goes ... if a ball drops, you shoot again.  If the 9 drops,
    	you win ... unless you also scratch, then you lose.  You
    	don't have to call ANY shots.
    
    	If you scratch, your opponent gets [cue] ball in hand ...
    	which means he can put the cue anywhere on the table for his
    	next shot.
    
    	You can drop the 9 with a combination shot, or you can drop
    	it by "deflecting" the cue off of the object ball [or any
    	ball, as long as the cue hits the lowest-numbered ball first].
    
    							GTI

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    -2, I thought you always had to call the 9-ball shot, weather it be
    from a defelction or a combo ????  -1, I like your pool table, were
    can I get one and for how much....
    
    Ive been playing more and more lately as prices drop a little, been
    trying to concentrate on my cross side/corner shots.  I have a good
    slice and half way decent long distant shots....Great game , just wish
    I had the money and the room to fit a table in my apartment...Oh well
    
    								Mike

    
    	Nope, no calls necessary.  If it drops, it drops.
    
    	My best shot is the cross-side, followed by the cross-corner.
    	My worst shot is a combination, and not much better is the
    	long straight shot.
    
    	BTW - that pool table is free.  Just type EXT/NOH POOL.TABLE
    	and it's yours.  8^)
    
    							GTI
    

I'd like to know the rules for snooker. If anyone would be good
enough to post them I'd appreciate it.

Last week played a game called GOLF on a snooker table. Bunch of old
dudes.... like 70 years old plus.

I watched `em for awhile until I got the hang of it. They kicked my ass,
and took about five bucks off me. Fun, though... these guys were making
three and four rail shots, and awesome DOUBLE combinations.

You start out, each person has one ball, lag to see who goes first,
shoot from the place your lag stopped.... must bank the first ball.
You must put your ball into each pocket in rotation (just like golf,
going from hole to hole). Each shot, either the cue ball or your ball
MUST hit a rail.. either before or after your shot. If you miss your
ball, or scratch, or knock another players' ball in, you wait until the
other players have taken their shot, then spot your ball and shoot.
Lotta fun.

Anyway, the old farts are sure they've found a patsy, so they asked me
to play snooker sometime. And I don't know how!

I'd like to try it. I don't mind feeding their kitty a bit while I
learn... and they're kind of fascinating to listen to... lot of good
stories.

Mike JN

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I enjoyed watching snooker on SUPER channel while I was in France.

I watched it so much, I got a fairly good idea of the rules of the
game.  I may be a tad off, but what I remember is this:

		1. Start shooting at a red ball.  If you pocket it
		   you get 1 point, and now can shoot for another
		   of the colored balls.

		2. If you pocket the colored ball, you get points depending
		   on what color.  That ball comes back onto the table.

		3. You continue till you fail to pocket or play a safety.



I thought it so fitting in a recent Dockers commericial that the
|CENSORED|s were talking about playing Pool, yet the table they were
playing on was a snooker table, complete with red and colored balls.

A__H___S!!!!!!!


'Saw

Sorry, would've entered them earlier, but I was sick...

'Saw, you took off on the right track.  This is from memory, so no doubt some
rule will be missing somewhere  :^{)

1. The balls are placed with the green, brown, and yellow occupying from left
   to right the three spots at the end of the table with the half moon.  The
   blue goes in the middle of the table, the pink on the next spot, and the
   black on the last spot.  The 15 reds go in a wedge right behind the pink
   ball.

2. Break by shooting the cue ball out of the half moon or "D" into the reds.

3. You must make a red in order to be entitled to shoot a "colour" (i.e. the
   six other coloured balls).  You can make as many reds with the same stroke
   as possible.

4. Once you've made a red or reds, you can choose any one of the coloured 
   balls bearing in mind the points they're worth: black 7, pink 6, blue 5,
   brown 4, green 3, and yellow 2.  If you don't sink the coloured ball you
   still can count 1 point for the red.

5. If you sink one of the coloured balls above, it goes back up on it's spot
   as described in point 1.  You need then to get in another red in order to
   be able to sink a second colour, but can still count whatever you made above
   if you miss.

6. Keep repeating 3, 4, and 5 until you go mental or all 15 red balls are gone.

7. When the reds are gone you need to sink the coloured balls in the ascending
   order of their worth - i.e. from yellow through to black, which concludes
   the frame/game/match.  (After the reds have been played, the colours stay
   in the pocket when they have been sunk.).  You may only play the "next"
   colour, e.g. - after brown (4) comes blue (5), and you can only play or
   sink the blue, then pink (6), then black (7).

8. Player with the most points wins, the maximum being 15 reds, EACH ONE 
   followed by a black = 7 x 15 = 105, sub-total 105 + 15 = 120.  Then the
   six colours are worth 2,3,4,5,6,7 = 27, making the total of a perfect game
   147.  The only person I've seen do it was Cliff Thorburn, but others have
   no doubt managed it.  Obviously, if one player is winning by 40 and only
   the colours (i.e. 27 points) remain, the losing player can concede and
   slash his wrists.  

9. Alternatively, he can play snookers, and try to force the other player into 
   either missing the ball completely or hitting another one by error.  As 
   mentioned in point 7 above, at any point in the game you must hit either
   one of the reds or a specific colour, and if you don't, or if you sewer
   after hitting it, your opponent gets awarded foul points.  If you played or
   tried to play the following balls, your opponent gets the same point as the
   value of the ball mentioned in point 7:  black 7, pink 6, blue 5, brown 4,
   and for green, yellow, and the reds the minimum of 4 also apply.
   
Otherwise, all the normal pool-type rules apply:  if you sink the cue ball by
accident, the other guy gets the related points and can shoot out the D, one 
foot on the floor (and the lights on boys and girls!) at all times, etc..

HTH Mike JN!!

rick

Rick --

You forgot the part about the rather stuffy British senior citizen,
with white gloves, who functions as the referee, and so carefully
places the colour balls back on their sports...

(He placed the coloured ball so carefully that now he is the
Admiral in the Queen's Navy!)


'Saw

Thanks guys! That sounds like fun.

Question:

If you shoot in a red ball, do you then HAVE to try for a number ball?
Or can you shoot more red balls, at a point apiece, trying to get better
position on a number ball?

Is there any rules about a ball hitting the rail?
Ie. if you tap the cue ball behind a number ball not hitting any
rails... this is okay? You have snookered your opponent (who then can't
hit a red ball)?

If you shoot at a red ball, make it and scratch, your opponent gets 4
points. Does the red ball then get spotted, or does it stay off the
table? If it stays off the table, do you get the one point?

Mike JN

    
>If you shoot in a red ball, do you then HAVE to try for a number ball?
>Or can you shoot more red balls, at a point apiece, trying to get better
>position on a number ball?
    
    
    	Nope, you have to alternate.  One red, one color, one red, one
    	color.
    
    							GTI
    

    
    	Before the tournament last night at The Family Fun Center, I
    	played against a girl [blonde, rather large ones] who was
    	pretty good, but even more inconsistent than I am.  I was
    	watching her play someone else, and she made some nice shots,
    	but she played me and hardly dropped a ball.  I guess she was
    	so mesmerized by my presence there that she couldn't concen-
    	trate very well.
    
    	So I was a nice guy and let her win ... intentionally scratched
    	on the 8-ball.
    
    	I should ask her out ... after I find out how old she is.  May-
    	be I can offer my assistance as a "pool instructor", show her
    	how to grip the shaft and make sure she keeps her eyes on the
    	balls.
    							GTI