Conference 7.286::sports_91

    hi chip,
    Should be a defensive duel, teams  quarterback  that  limits his
    
    mistakes  wins..    as well as the team that can shut down the others
    
    running game... I havent heard any different in GIANTS FILE, BUT
    WAS  wondering if Allegre  willbe activated.... bahr  scares me
    at time.. may need some long field  goals made..
    
    
    dinz
    

    The Bears are my favorite team!  Go Bears!
    
    lEe

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    sigh.
    
    Well Mike T. got it there, only to have had it dropped.  The turning
    point for me was the two goal line stands and the first INT that
    should have been a Gentry completion.
    
    Good bye Danimal (Dan_Hampton).
    
    Good season turned in.  (And turned around from last season)
    
    Bears have a way to go to be a con-ten-da, They need a better offensive
    game plan, better defensive line, younger offensive lineman, and 
    for Jim Harbough to keep improving.
    
    Looking forward to next year already.
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach
    
    P.S.  What a suck, I rooted for Washington, Miami, Chicago, and Cincy!

I'm almost positive I saw Ditka on the phone to Dan Reeves. And I'm sure
Dan gave him a lot of information about how misdirection plays are
cheating... so just run the baw up the middle a few times when you get
near the goal line. Too bad..... Ditka evidently listened.

Mike JN

    Hey Chip ......Lee.......you guys out there? The Bears and the Dolphs
    will be kicking off the (pre)season tonight, why the lack of interest?
    
    Carlos 

	
	"So, if the Bears were in the Indy 500 who would you go for"

	"How would they be in the Indy 500?"

	"Well, let's say they rented a bus"

	"Would Ditka be driving the bus?"

	"Sure"

	"The Bears...."

    Re. -1
    
    Yeah.....that's more like it.
    
    

    The BEAR guys!  I love those guys...
    
    I haven't seen a pre-season game yet.  My new cable company doesn't
    even get TNT!!!  No Sunday night Football at home (Doublesuck)
    
    The news I heard from my latest BEAR_REPORT, is that the Bears will
    be tossing the skin a bit more this year, remains to be seen...
    
    And *I JUST KNOW* Tomczak will come out and haunt the MONSTERS this year
    when we play the Packers, I just know it...   
    
    Oh, great football god (GFD), just give me some optimism this year... 
    
    A Chip_GSH_Bach breakdown for what we (Bear_Guys_Every_Where) need
    to see this year:
    
    1.  Great play from either Jimmy Harbough or from Pete_Ted, 
	um,
        Fred_Clark, 
	uhh, no, thats not it, 
	Willy_Petey, shoot.  
	Uh, oh yeah, 
	Peter Tom!
    
    2.  Some (gonetothewelltooften) great play from the offensive line.
    
    3.  The running game to keep track/pace with last year.
    
    4.  A passing game. 
    
    5.  A healthy Secondary.
    
    So basically, I'll go out on a limb and say, if the BEARS play good 
    defense in the secondary, and throw the ball more [and, most important,
    better] the will take the Central Division, the Superbowl, and the Indy 500.
    
    (Football's sacred triple crown)
    
    If not, they'll take the bus.  (With Ditka driving)
    
    Go_Bears, I LOVE it when it's this close to the REAL season... 
    
    CHIP_GSH_BACH

    BEARS_WIN, BEARS_WIN!
    
    Test #1, Bears '91, Bears survive...
    
    Bears have to still play the Bills, Giants, 49ers, and Vike's at
    Minn this year.  Tough schedule for '91, but wouldn't have it any other
    way!
    
    Chip_GSH_(1-0)_Bach

    BEARS_WIN, BEARS_WIN!
    
    Test #2, Bears '91, Bears survive...
    
    Bears beat the defending SB champs in a 20 - 17 come from behind win.
    
    Harbough is still on target, and ripped a 75 yard TD strike.
    
    Butler kicked two FG's from medium range, as he seems to be improving
    from pre-season stinko.
    
    The Bears fell behind in the 4th (17-13) after giving up 17 unanswered
    points, then Neil Anderson dove in on a 35 yard run.  He jumped from
    the 5 yard marker and help the ball just over the pylon indicating a
    TD.
    
    Have already head the Gint's fans talking up the "We should have won
    and blown it post game "could of's", but the Bears looked like they
    controlled the game, with the exception of the "D" letting up a bit
    in the touch down drives.
    
    William Perry had blocked a 35 yard FG attempt as the clocked ticked
    down to 00:00, negating a possible tie ballgame.  The Bears did get
    lucky with that FG, but kept themselves in the game the entire time
    and drove for a touch down when they needed it in the 4th.
    
    Let's go BEARS!
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach  

    
>    Have already head the Gint's fans talking up the "We should have won
>    and blown it post game "could of's", but the Bears looked like they
>    controlled the game, with the exception of the "D" letting up a bit
>    in the touch down drives.
    
With a couple of notable exceptions, the Bears were out-executed in the
second half.

The Bears deserved to win because they were obviously the better motivated
ball club.

There's some serious problems I think in the Giants organization, and the
first syllable of the biggest rhymes with "Hand"......

'Saw

    Well, I had good seats any-how...
    
    The first quarter was pretty sick.  There were *maybe* two first downs 
    either way.  The Bears special teams killed them early with average
    field position at their own 19...  Johnny Baily left his common sense
    at home.
    
    Jim Harbough started out flat, so did The_Ryp.  
    
    Second quarter gave the Skins a 10-0 lead.  The 'Skins wide out's were two
    steps on the dbacks.  There was no Bear pass rush.
    
    The Bears drove well in the second half.  Scored a TD from a solid
    drive.  They got the ball back and started to drive again until
    Harbough threw a deflection pass for an INT.  The Bears then held
    the skins to a 4th and 4 situation and blew it with a defensive holding
    call.  The Skins (with good field position frm the INT and penalty)
    scored again.
    
    The Bears couldn't make the play's when they needed them.  
    
    Thank goodness for a break next week.  We need Riveria, Muster back.
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    Ah yes, NFL rivalries...
    
    The local top-40 radios stations (Green Bay/Appleton) have their
    quote "Bears Still Suck" unquote campain in full swing today.  It
    amazing how much the NorthEastern Wisconsin residents dislike anything
    to do with Chicago. Wonder if the Packer-Bears rivalry has anything to
    do with it.  Anyway, they were talking about this game 2 weeks ago,
    before the last game even. (Loss to Dallas) 
    
    Last year, 1 radio station had obtained T-shirts of the Simpson Baby
    (name?) with the logo "Suck Suck Suck", and stenciled in "Bears Still". 
    They were giving the shirts away as free call-in prizes.
    
    This year, the same station found some talking dolls spouting phrases
    such as "Bears Suck, Bears Suck" and "Ditka Go Home".  They demo-ed the
    doll on the air repeatedly, and are giving those away this year.
    
    It does make for amusing listening during the morning drive.  
    
    Commander Scott

    At Soliders Field last week I saw at least three folks with shirts that 
    read "F*CK GREENBAY".
    
    Sounds like the riv' is still fumin, alive and well.  Can anyone tell me 
    what station the game is on tonight?  (TNT or ESPN) 
    
    Regards.
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

My schedule lists it as TNT....


Da...bearsss,


Bill Swerski

    
    My favorite shirt are the ones in Wisconsin - refering to the victory
    over the Bears where they had to review whether or not Majik was over
    the line of scrimmage when he threw the touchdown pass.
    
    AFTER FURTHER REVIEW....... THE BEARS STILL SUCK!
    
    Then again I intend to where my own t-shirt tonight picturing a
    youngster standing in the state of Wisconsin taking a leak on
    Illinois/Chicago. 
    
    All in good fun of course.....  
    
    Pat - a Packer fan who had to take abuse for 5 years while living 
    in Chicago.
                       

    RE: .17  after that "game" last night both teams should wear
    "We still Suck"...  What a joke on both sides.
    
    Bears: 10
    (mud)Packers: 0
    
    Chip_Not_Lookin'_forward_to_da_Saints_next_week_GSH_Bach

    re: Chip
    
    Personally I agree, but then I'm not a Packer fan.  
    
    The Packer faithfull are starting to get a bit nasty toward the team. 
    Makowski (?) is out of favor, and the media coverage of the losing
    streak seems to be intensifying.  
    
    No calls for Linfante's job, but I'm starting to wonder how off that
    may be.  This is his 4th yr - 1 good year (10-6), 1 decent year (7-9 I
    think), 1.5 diasters (3-13, 1-6), no playoff teams.  The good year may
    cary him a long ways though.
    
    .last night 
    
    The early whistle on the Bear punt reception muff was a very bad call. 
    But that's what you get from on-the-field refereeing.  If you want a
    better call, start using remote whistle monitoring.  (Yuk, Yuk, I not
    complaining)
    
    
    Commander Scott

    
    Yes I finally get to see my first Packer game of the year.   
    
    Pitiful, just pitiful.   Even if the Pack had got the fumbled punt, odds
    are they would not have scored.    The defense played well enough again
    but 1 first down in the first half????  Ugh.
    
    Bears deserved the win, but thats not saying much.
    
    
    Pat (The Pack will be back within my lifetime)
    
    

    
    yeah that's it.. fire Infante and ship him back to Cleveland to be
    Browns offensive co-ordinator again.  I like it!  
    
    /Jeff

    bears vs sain't...  (forgive me oh great football god)
    
    Bears: 17
    Saint's: 10
    
    I'll keep tryin this score til it works!

    Umm...  Make that Bears 20 Saint's (less than that)
    
    M'boys covered (and WON!), drinks are on me.
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach
    
    (Next week Detroit 21 at Chicago 28.
    
    

    Revised upon Rodneys heel.
    
    Bears 17
    Detroit 7
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    Had the spread, missed to totals.
    
    Next Monday: Bears 14  Vikings 6
    
    (P.S. I'll be there, can't wait to see the Metro dome and all that
    snow <OUTSIDE!>)
    
    Chip

    Whats the deal with the LINE?  It had the Vikes favored over the Bears.
    
    Is Harbaugh (?) injury bad?
    
    Scott

Maybe it's because they're playing in the Dome.

I'm still surprised...

daryll

    ummm....  (take 'da Bearz)
    
    They looked great!  (Even if I was personelly "booed" wearing my PLANK
    jersey, bear hat, bear jacket, bear buttons, bear pants, and bear sun
    glasses, and bear penant)
    
    The Bears might have stopped winning ugly.  The offense was tickin' and
    the defense hittin'.
    
    Next stop (for me) Indy!  (Hope the boys don't look past those hapless
    Colts and Jeffs arm)
    
    I think the HBO guys are even giving the Bears a bit more respect.
    
    Regards,
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    Other than the scalper price, great game.
    
    The Bears started off slow, but seemed to be in control the whole
    game.  Indy's firsted score was a result of a fuuuummbell.  The Indy
    Offense had a few good drives, but the Bears turned it up a notch
    when the Colts came close.
    
    Thanks to team_San_Diego for beating the Saint's.  The Bears would have
    the first round bye if the season was over today.
    
    Next week, the 'Phins in Chicago.  The 'Phins will be coming off a
    short week and have to play in a mid November Soliders Field, could
    be tough for them.
    
    Take the Bears and the points.
    
    Thats about it, other than Tom Waddle (The_Great_WAH-DELL<tm>) is
    getting to be the new possesion man for Chicago, as Dennis Gentry 
    is getting older and may have only a few years left on his dance card.
    
    Brad Muster had 101 yds and a great game.  He is coming around like the
    1st rounder that he should.
    
    Neil Anderson didn't dress, but will be around for nexted week.
    
    Bears face Miami, Detroit, Green Bay, Tampa Bay, and San Fransico for
    the remainder of the season.  Not really a scary schedule with the
    exception of Detroit in Detroit on Thanks Giving Day.  That will be
    tough.  The 9ers on Monday night will also be a job.
    
    Anyway,
    
    Go Bears.
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    
    > Thanks to team_San_Diego for beating the Saint's.  The Bears would have
    > the first round bye if the season was over today.
    >
    > Chip_GSH_Bach
    
    
    
    You're welcome!
    
    Live from Charger Central.......Glenn

    BEARS_WIN, BEARS_WINS....
    
    
    
                                   
    
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    Man, it was just in the cards for div. leaders yesterday.  The Bears
    miss a 23 yard FG, then they make Miami use all their time outs under
    two minutes to play, with a seven point lead.  Punt from their 30 (?)
    and snap it over Maury's head.  Lose the toss for OT, have Clayton make 
    a GREAT catch, and lose the game.
    
    This is make up for the JETS win...
    
    Really would like going to the Silver Dome with a game advantage over
    the Lions this Thursday.  Those Lions are tough on Turkey day.
    
    A Bear loss would tie them in the Central.
    
    Sometimes I hate being a Bear fan...
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    Heard Muster, Anderson, and Bortz are doubful for Thursday.
    
    And confirmation?
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    Jim Harbough came to play Thursday.
    
    
    		**NOT**
    
    C'mon guys, e'nuff is e'nuff.  Deeetroit could get the offense movin'
    all day.  The Bear turnover gave the Lions everything they needed.
    
    The Lions "O" gave them a 50 yr FG, the Bears offense gave them
    everything else.
    
    Last games Green_Bay, Tampa_Bay are in Chicago, Then the Bears play the
    Niner in San Fran.
    
    The Lions have Buffalo in New York, the Jets, and ???...
    
    The only bright spot on Thursday was the defense.  Still looked good,
    hoping for the god of offense to help out the rest of the year.
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    re Chip:
    
    > The Lions have Buffalo in New York, the Jets, and ???...
                                                                       
    At Green Bay.   
     
    
    py

    Thanks py, thats right they have a game outside, which is a condition
    they have not won in yet this year.
    
    I think the Lions, based on how they played Thursday, will only get
    1 out of the 3 games as a "W".  (I just hope 'da_bearz don't drop 
    any others due to brain_cramps)
    
    I believe the Bears will still get the nod to the first bye if it were
    over today, thanks to the pitIfull Aints play yesterday.
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    The way that the Packers are playing this year, I would not rule out
    the Lions winning that game.  Grass or no grass.
    
    2-1 for the Lions is a possibility.  Unfortunetly, 2-1 for the Bears is
    an even stronger possibility.
    
    Scott

    Scott, actually I'll give Detroit GB.  I think they'll get beat by 
    the Jets and the Bills.
    
    I'd say the jets game will be a "pick'em".
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    re: Chip
    
    Isn't the Jets game in Detroit?  And I believe the Lions are 9-0 in a
    dome, i.e. unbeaten at home.  1 win is pretty much given, 2 a good
    possibility, 3 a small miricle.
    
    The Bears have the easier schedule and the tie break.  So they *should*
    have the division title.
    
    Scott

    re .37:
    
    > Isn't the Jets game in Detroit?
    
    Yes.
    
    
    py
    

    RE: Bears *should*...  
    
    After what I saw in the last two, the bears could pitch the season
    away.
    
    The Jets are in Detroit.  I was not that impressed with the home Lions
    team on Thanksgiving day.  My upset guess would be a Jet victory.
    
    Detroit could still win the NFC central, with a 1st round bye and home
    field if they got hot, with an upset over Washington in the playoffs, 
    Detroit could be a force.
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach           

    The Lions strike me as a young team on their way up.  As such they are
    still learning how to win.  One of the extentions to that idea is that
    they are a hot/cold team.  Could be...
    
    The Bears on the other hand are the exact opposites.  They always seem
    to be in the middle of things, year in and year out.  Ditka really
    seems to be Landrey's student - with a bit of fire-water added. 
    Sometimes he seems to be using smoke and mirrors to get the job done.
    
    Scott
    
    P.S. Washington could get a chance to get real familiar with the R&S
    this year.

    Niners out.  Good news for the Bears.  I think that'll take some wind
    out of them and also some focus.
    
    I spent all of last week in Chicago (Saw them play both "bays") and
    watched Steve McMicheal's news show.  Did anyone else see this??
    
    I could swear he was drunk off his can that night.  Now, I've seen
    him on this news show before, and he is not the most articulate person,
    but this time he had to be wasted!
    
    Every time the news guy would talk, Steve blasted an air horn.  You
    could tell Mr_News_Guy had had it, between the moronic chatter and
    the blast of the horn!
    
    The next morning McMicheal was fired.
    
    What a riot.
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

RE:
>    Niners out.  Good news for the Bears.  I think that'll take some wind
>   out of them and also some focus.
    
>    Chip_GSH_Bach


         You have a big disappointment heading your way! San Francisco has
    nothing to lose. They are out of the playoff picture and this will be
    their replacement playoff game / Superbowl. The 49ers would like to
    prove they are one of the top teams this year even though they didn't
    make the playoffs so expect them to beat the Bears!

         Just a quick edition....Bono is said to be going to start at QB
    Monday night for SF.

         By the way..if Detroit wins their game does that force the Bears
    to win to clinch the Central Division?

                                                   Night Flier   ~~v~~

    re- 1
    
    If Detroit wins the Bears must win,if Detroit loses it doesn't matter
    if the Bears win or lose.The Lions are at Buffalo so I think it won't
    matter much.
    
    
    Tom

    RE -1:

        So if Detroit loses to the Bills which is expected although not a
    given then there is no incentive for the Bears to win their game.

        Sounds like SF may have more incentive to win this one if that
    scenario unfolds.

                                                   Night Flier   ~~v~~

    RE -1:   Incentive - 1)Beat playoff team Bears.
                         2)Win six in a row.
                         3)Prove to themselves that if it were not for
                           early problems in the year they would have a
                           shot at the Superbowl.
                         4)Give them momentum towards next year.

                                                   Night Flier   ~~v~~

Incentive wise, looks like a toss up to me.  I can't see any Mike
Ditka coached team not being motivated.  And heck, even if SF is
out, how can you NOT get up for the 'Niners?  Also, you always want
to go into the playoffs on a roll.  A loss in your last game is
not good.

So you guys go ahead and come up with reasons why one team will be
more fired up than the other.  The way I see it, they'll both be
ready to play.  The only edge I can give to SF is home-field advantage
and perhaps Ditka will play more of his subs than normal.

Jerry

    If Muster plays, the Bears win.  
    
    The Bears will not want to go into the playoffs flat, on the tail of
    a loss, look what it's gonna do to the Raiders ;-).
    
    There is no "pre-post-season" superbowl for these guys, they are
    professionals, not kids.  They know the season is in the dumper
    but they will come out ready because they are professionals.
    
    I think the Bears can handle San_Fran this year.  The games they were
    really beaten (Washington and @Buffalo) and two they pissed away
    (@Detroit and that Miami fiasco)  were against team with a better 
    record than San_Fran.  (Miami may have the same record actually.)
    
    I pick the Bears by at least ten.  The offense (with Muster) is tickin'
    well (albeit against the "BAYS", but Harbough looked good, as did the
    Bears second and third string running backs.
    
    Butler is my biggest worry.  He is hurt and playing poorly.  Ditka
    can't trust him over 30yards.
    
    Great wat to end the season, especially if Detroit beats the Bills!
    
    Go_Bears!
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

     Look for a Niners victory and the Lions to come home from Luckaolo
    with their 4th road win.
    
    Big Game

    I think that San Fran is the better team by a considerable margin. 
    Regardless of incentive, the better team wins more often than not.  In
    this case it's the 49ers.  SanFran's got the better offense and the
    defenses are about even....and before I hear it I'll state that just
    because the Bears are in the playoffs...that does not translate into
    them being the better team.  All it means is that they are a whole lot
    happier than the 49ers!!  I do not intend this noteto come across as a
    put down to the Bears...they are a very good team....I just feel that
    the 49ers are playing some of the best football in the league right
    NOW.
    
    
    Nelly

Who cares how good the Niners are playing now. they're out and that's
all that matters. As a disgruntled Giants fan I couldn't be happier to
see the Niners on the scrap heap pile alongside the Jints.....

all things considered though Nelly's right they'll probably trash DA Bears...

    RE -1:

           Scrap heap this year but I would say the schedule next year
    should give both the Giants and 49ers a very good chance at being
    playoff bound the next time around! Things always look brighter after
    the season ends for a non playoff team!!!

    RE: a few back

           As for the Bears this Monday...didn't know Muster is possibly
    out what is his problem?  

           SF is 5 point favorites this week. It should be a good game but
    I expect the 49ers to do better than that (unless the SF QB's are limping 
    around due to injuries they have on their knee's).

           IMO the Bears will not score more than 2 TD's if that! And that
    should be more than enough for the 49ers with their passing attack!

           Unless the Lions lose we should be seeing the Bears in a 
    Wildcard game.

                                                   Night Flier   ~~v~~

           
                                              

     Agreed...  Not only will Da Bears lose to the Niners,  they won't
    be making it past Da first round of the playoffs either.  Da Bears
    have the same problem the Donks have...  Total lack of offense.  Da
    Bears and Da Donks could both end up out after 1 if the can't pull
    together some kind of offensive push for the playoffs.  JMO
    
    Big Game

         Bono is out for the 49ers as his knee is too banged up. A gimpy
    legged Young is at #1 QB and his back up (Now #4!) is Musgrave...a kid
    out of Oregon St.(I think it's state) who hasn't played a down in the
    NFL.

          It should make the game a little closer. I just hope it's an
    entertaining game. Good luck to your team Bears fans. But I still think
    the 49ers are going to wup the Bears behind!!  :^)

                                                   Night Flier   ~~v~~

    O.K. guys, I know some of our western allies have some strict 
    NinerJihad rules to follow in notes, but...
    
    Saying the Niners will beat the Bears without a Q.B. is going a little
    overboard.  The Bears are 11-4 this year and played a tougher schedule
    then the 49reindeers, who didn't make the playoffs.  I don't care how
    well San_Fiasco has been playing (lately) they still have a sub-playoff
    record.
    
    I would not say the Bears have no offense, either.  It's just a time
    chomping run oriented offense, not the glitz-ey run&poop or a pass
    only.  Harbough has good numbers this year, and the Bears have a good
    record.
    
    The Bears won't win the first round of the playoffs cause they won't be
    there.  They'll be watching the 1st round on TeeVee (They will get the
    1st round bye).
    
    The second round will be played in Chicago, and I think the Bears can
    beat Dallas, Miami, Atlanta in a frozen Soldiers Field.  
    
    (I know they have a loss against the 'Phin there, but Man_Danreemo
    won't win two like that)
    
    So, Boners out, Young was stikin' it up BEFORE he got gimped and
    Montana is back to being a place on the map.  I'm taking all bets.
    
    Go_Bears
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach
    

    
    >The second round will be played in Chicago, and I think the Bears can
    >beat Dallas, Miami, Atlanta in a frozen Soldiers Field.  
    
    Miami ??  Hmm... that would be interesting, speshully cuz Miami is in
    the AFC.
    
    Look fer Da Bears to choke no matter who they play.
    

    yikes, brain_cramp, please excuse.

    (Insert Sain'ts for Miami, and add Detroit to the teams that won't beat
    Chicago at Chicago)
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    Don't know where my loyalties should go fer this one.
    
    With former Irishers Mark Green,Tom Thayer, Chris Zorich, and Michael
    Stonebreaker on da Bears or Irisher Montana on the Niners.
    
    Gotta go with clutch-man even if he cain't play. Go Niners!
    
    MikeL
    

    Montana's playing?

    Chip,
    I don't think he'll suit up. Like to see it tho, but highly improbable.
    
    MikeL
    

    You'll probably see Young suit up for the start.  He'll play until
    he gets Richard_Dented(TM) and then see the young buck from Oregon ST.
    finish out the game.
    
    The Niners are not going to want to hurt Young in this game.  He's
    too much trade bait right now, unless they plan_B to keep him.  
    
    Look for smash mouth run offenses on either side. 
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    
    I'm almost certain Musgrave went to Oregon and not Oregon State.
    
    Claybone

    RE: -1

          Wasn't sure Claybone. Your probably right but if I run across a
    for sure bit of information I will pass it on.


    RE : Chip:

         HA HA HA!!!!!! Looks like you'll have to sweat Monday night
    out!!!

         The Lions pulled out a win and now the Bears HAVE to win or they
    are not going to be having a too restful Christmas!

         Young is not suited for the SF style of game but with a bum knee
    he may stay in the pocket more this Monday night allowing for that SF
    style. Even with that bum knee he still runs better than 50% of the
    QB's in the league.

         At least the game should be an entertaining one now. San Francisco
    may even be able to bring in Musgrave for a little work in the 4th
    Quarter after they have a big enough lead! :^)

                                                   Night Flier   ~~v~~

    Looks like Da Lions are gonna win the Da Central !!!
    
    Go Niners's !!!
    
    BG

    RE: a couple back:

            Claybone....you are right. I looked into it last night.
    Musgrave did play with Oregon not Oregon State.

                                                   Night Flier   ~~v~~

    Look for the bears to go down hard tonight at the hands of the 
    hot 49ers.  Sure would be nice to see the Lions win the div. for the 
    fisrt time in a long time!  I like Founts and his team.  Their tough
    and they ain't afraid to introduce some new concepts into the boring
    NFL.
    
    BG

    
    49ers win 52 - 14 worst defeat for Chicago in some 20 years.
    
    The 9ers looked awesome.  They moved up and down the field at
    will.
    
    Lions Central division champs.
    
    	Lions will play the Saints if the Saints beat Atlanta or
    	the winner of the Chicago vs Dallas game should Atlanta win.
    
    \pjb

 wish I could have seen it all Ditka must have been a joy to watch...I did
 catch one act with Singletary of all people...Mike's burnin-out I think...

    But you gotta wonder why Seafert was still throwing the ball...for a TD
    no less...when he was up by almost 30 points.  I'm sure Iron Mike was
    none to please with Wimpy George (not Bush).
    
    Anybody see the press conference?  Was there one?  I'd love to know
    Ditka's disposition after that rub in the face.
    
    	--dan'l

          What a blow out!!!! 49ers just tore apart the Bears in every
    possible way. It's lucky that the rest of the league doesn't have to
    face the 49ers after seeing this game. They would have to be favorites
    with Washington and Buffalo to win it all. such is life though we will
    have to wait until next year to see how they perform.

          Since the 49ers beat (a little light on the wording) Chicago they
    will not play them next year and will face the Lions instead (who they
    also took apart this year).

          From the 49ers side of it several of the players were talked to
    and asked after the game why they crunched Chicago right until the end
    of the game? They were supposedly motivated by a couple of the Bears
    players (one of whom was said to have been Harbaugh) who had said that
    "The 49ers were just a tune up game for the Bears upcoming playoffs".
    There was also supposedly allot of talking by the Bears during the game
    to the effect of the 49ers not making the playoffs (I think in the area
    of not good enough to be there).

    RE: -1 News conference by Ditka:

         Mike was just a tad upset! He said the 49ers ran it up on his team
    and I quote "What goes around comes around, What you sow so shall you
    reap." He also said "I don't know how much longer I'll coach but I've
    got a great memory, I proved it to the gray-haired guy."(referring to
    the 49ers beating of the Bears 23 - 0 in the 1984 NFC Championship
    game.) In 1985 the Bears came back and beat the 49ers 26 - 10. The big
    reasons were when the 49ers used Guy McIntyre in the backfield in 1984
    and the Bears then used William Perry in there backfield in 1985.

         I don't think the 49ers are quaking in their boots to much this
    morning! The earliest they could meet is in the playoffs next year if
    it works out that way.

         As for the 49ers rebuttal to all this running up the score bit.
    Seifert had his chance and said, That the 49ers were not running up the
    score. The 49ers last 3 touchdowns were explainable according to
    Seifert. One was the fumble return 99 yards for a touchdown, the next
    one was an interception that ended up at the 2 yard line (which Young
    ran in on his injured knee), and the third.....the third was not the
    fault of the 49ers coaching staff. Musgrave decided he wanted to show
    off how talented he was and decided to call an audible at the line of
    scrimmage and threw a beautiful pass in for a touchdown! Young of course
    was happy and had a very good game. He was laughing at Musgrave after
    the game and told him that "Mike is going to love you"! 

          I know that won't make Ditka any happier but that's the reasons!
    He'll just have to take it until they meet again. If he has any one
    particular thing to be mad about it was his team getting kicked all
    over the field the way they did. And I guess if he wants to he should
    be made at the Rookie QB (who until last night hadn't thrown a pass in
    the NFL). Personally by the look on the sidelines of Seifert he wasn't
    too happy about Musgrave throwing that one. But he has to back the kid
    up as he is a member of the 49ers.

                                                   Night Flier   ~~v~~

    
    The 49ers-Bears rivalry has been going on for a few years.  It started
    several years ago when Ditka was running up the score by having the
    Fridge run in a TD.  The 49ers ran the score up on the Bears a couple
    years later, as a pay back, and Ditka was pi$$ed then too, and said
    he'd get even.  He just hasn't been able to make his actions follow his
    words.  Dierdork questioned passing the ball on 3rd and 25, which
    seemed dumb to me.  I will admit the long TD pass was rubbing it in,
    but it's only the Bears.
    
    Brews 

I'm not a Bears fan by any stretch, but I think the 'Niners did 
the Bears a favor by toasting them yesterday. They'll be going 
into the playoffs looking for blood. Watch out.

Meanwhile, the 'Niner are on the golf course this morning....

daryll

    	So called Iron Mike is whining about somebody running up the
    score?  I seem to remember him using a fat slob of a defensive lineman
    on a goal line offense so he could rub it in during the Super Bowl.
    Not so much fun when you're on the other end of it, eh Mike?
    
    				/Don

    
    I've rooted for the Bears maybe 5 times in my life.  They lose every
    time, no wonder I don't like them.
    
    To more avid Bear watchers-  Is Richard Dent going down hill?  The last
    few games I've watched him, he's made a small impression, except that
    he seems to be becoming a cheap shot artist. He was one of the few
    Bears I liked.
    
    Brews

     
    Its hard to say why the Bears are not dominating anymore, but I think
    they are showing signs of age.   Especially the Defense,  Dent,
    Singletary, McMichael (hampton is gone).   These guys still make a
    couple of key plays a game, but they used to make a half dozen each.
    The Fridge is also little more than a plug for his position -tough to 
    run over - so you just run around him.   And yes, Dent has been giving
    out a few cheap shots recently.
    
    I think the Bears will have a tough time of it in the next couple of
    years, but I do give Ditka credit.  He is a great coach and he gets all
    he can from his players.  The fake punt was a great call and almost 
    got the Bears back in it.     
    
    Pat - a Packer fan. 
    
    
    

Pat, 

Watch for Bill Parcells to turn the packers into a dynasty again 8^)


Coach Dikka of Da Bearsss, is definitely a good coach.  LOVED the fake
punt.  Get him some younger talent and watch out....


'Saw

    
    	On more than one occasion this year, I've seen Ditka and
    	Singletary arguing on the sidelines.  Have any of you
    	Bear fans seen anything in print explaining the problem
    	between the two?
    
    	Claybone

    Claybroon, how 'bout Go "Broons!"
    
    I imagine that Ditka and his special teams coach have much to talk
    about today.
    
    Mark.

    
    On ESPN last night, they referred to him as Ex-Special Teams Coach.
    
    

Claybone --

Just change it to Santa Claus is coming.


hth,
'Saw

    'Twas a unBEARable vacation...
    
    Firsted the 49er nongame.  Bears defense didn't show, Young wanted his 
    job back.  Just sick.  Any chance the Bears had to contend died that
    night.  
    
    Just for some clarification, I believe the 84 niners ran some fat slob
    defensive guy in a niner victory FIRST, then in '85 the Bears answered
    with a Perry run.  Perry did NOT run for a TD that game.  
    
    I guess Georgie wanted to pump the Bears up for their next Niner game.
    
    Now the 49er game: Gimme one huge crow burger.
    
    Next:  Dallas
    
    I'm glad I wasn't noting last week.  I would have sworn a Bear loss to
    San_Fran like 30 to 14 would have deflated the Bears.  I thought when
    Georgie ran it up, the Bears would have come out smokin' against 
    Dallas.  
    
    The poor coaching cost them this game.  If they would have hit some
    of those field goals, they would have won.  4th and one three times
    for zero points.  Just sucked.   And why hand to Anderson?  He hasn't
    played well all year and Lewis was carrying 5 guys ten yards every time 
    he touched the ball...
    
    The fake punt was a great call, but a little to late.
    
    They just didn't have the horses this year.  This was something Ditka 
    said all year long.  I agree with one of the previous noters, The Bears are 
    gonna hurt for the next few years.  They need to draft up a entire
    defense.  
    
    They could also use O-Linemen.
    
    Final Bears Report:  
    
    Coaching:  Ditka took a bucnh of so-so players and played for 11 wins,
    gave some good games to contenders (Washington, Detroit, New Orleans)
    and got destroyed by Buffalo and San_Fran.   I'll give Ditka and the 
    boyz a B+.
    
    Offense:  Harbough played well this year.  All heart and he is reacting
    more as a real time QB.  Still had some brain cramps (B-)
    
    The offensive line was weak.  C-
    
    The crappy playcalling this year gets the big "D" for Ditka.
    
    Defense seemed to fold when it needed to, for the corners and pass rush
    a big time D.
    
    Butler was hurt most of the year, but I say you put him on injured
    reserve and get someone else.  He gets an F for the feild goals he
    couldn't "Muster".
    
    Special teams killed the Bears this year.  They single-handedly beat
    the Bears against the Skins this year.  D-
    
    And my player-of-the-year award:  Cincys very own Tom_Waddle (or the
    "Great_WAH-DELL" (tm).
    
    Caint wait till nexted year.  (Go Chiefs?)
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    Waddle went to Boston COllege...
    
    REK

    And Moler high school, Cincinnati Ohio...

    uhh... make that Moeller High School.  (Geez, these Ohio guyz are so
    touchy)
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    Anyone heard ana'thang on Stan Thomas?

    He was shot in the head yesterday in San Diego.

    Sounds like he'll be O.K. Lots of blood on the pic's in the news,
    though...

    He had surgery yesterday and might get out of the hospital as early
    as Monday.  (I assume that means today?)

    Any infor would be appreciated.

    Chip_GSH_Bach

    From what I heard on the radio, a friend of his got into a fight in a
    bar, and Thomas took him home.
    
    Then the "other guy" pulled alongside the car, and fired 5 rounds into
    it, one of the bullets grazing Thomas.
    
    Sounded a lot like a Lyman Bostock incident, but this will have a much
    happier ending. 
    
    00;00

    I'm back (bach) and so are Da'Bearz tonight against the Aint's!!!!
    
    ALLLLLLLL RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!!!
    
    umm.  excuse me.
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

	So, Todd, what's your prediction for da game?

		Well, if Dikka plays, it'll be Bearz 400, Saints 7
		and if Dikka doesn't play, it'll be da Bearz 227
		Saints 3

	Okay Todd, can you pass me dat Polish Sausage dere, and
	let's tawk about da Dream Team....

    (I thought that was the Dream Team you was talkin' about!)
    
    ;-)

    
    The Bears play the Cards next week in Phoenix.  To get people to the
    game some country 'singer' is playing after the game.  He's got some
    big 'song' now that the wimmens like.  They think this could be the
    first football game ever with more women than men fans.
    
    Brews

    so how much longer does everyone think Ditka will last?  I say he won't
    be back next year.  His tired act is okay for disciplining rookies, but
    the veterans are getting tired of him (not to mention most of Chicago)
    and their performance on the field shows.
    
    Mike

       Dicka will be working for NBC nexted year!
                                   Denny

    I wuz in Chicago for the turkey.  The trib says the players love Dit's,
    its the owner they hate.
    
    Great article on how Tzak, Hildenburg, and Marshall all loved Ditka
    and thought he was a great motivator, etc.
    
    I think Iron Mike will be back.  He had something like three seasons
    under .500, two in his first two years, and the other in 89.  (It
    looks like this will be number four)
    
    I hope he's back.  I spent four years in New England with Raymond
    Berry-berry, and hate a boring coach...
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    Yeah, I heard the MNF crew making up excuses for him for having the
    least talent in his years there.

    Mighty quite in Ditkaburg.
    
    Da Bearz, da bearz...  Da Pain...

    
    Great game against the Squeelers though !!
    
    
    BG

    Dey woulda trounced most on Mikes last Homer.
    
    They were FIRED up.  Too bad they couldn't have been all fired up
    when they yacked up last quarter wins against the Vikes and the
    Bengals.
    
    Bums.
                 
    Chip_GSH_Bach

    Ditka watch goes on...

    Anyone hear anything?  Word on the street is he's gettin' canned today.

    Biggest mistake McCasky will have made since not paying for Wilbur
    Marshall in 86.

    Ditka loves the team.  The fans love Ditka (Regardless of the Chicago
    media rhetoric).  The players love Ditka.  Ditka usually gets great 
    performance outta a mediocre team.  He has a over .600 record with the 
    team, several NFC-Central flags, and a Super Bowl ring...

    The guy is real time football and makes the game interesting.

    I hope it ain't so, Halas woulda kept the guy...

    Chip_GSH_Bach

    Sounded like it already happened.  KFAN was going to hook up with WBBM
    in Chicago to get reaction to the Ditka firing.
    
    
    Spud

    
    |Rumor last night was he was gonna come here.  7-11 is reported to be
    stocking up on chewing gum.
    
    Brews

    Yeah someone in Scottsdale spotted Mike in one bar, and Reeves in
    another.  Elvis was still at Circle K.

      I heard on one of the local radio stations that Dika is gone....
    
       Tim

    
     Ditka Gone !!!  Heard it on Mr. Manly's favorite station, 98.1 
    Classic Rock&Roll seconds ago.  Ditka to the Rams...  Interesting
    and probably a good fit except he ain't PC enough to be in SoCal.
    
    BG

    Watch for Buddy Ryan's name pop up...
    
    REK

    Has Ditka been fired?

   >> Watch for Buddy Ryan's name pop up...
    
      No doubt it'll pop up, but I seriously doubt he'll be considered
      by Bears' management. If for no other reason than out of respect
      to Ditka. Mike and Buddy didn't get along and alot of folks, in-
      cluding Buddy, thought Ryan deserved more of the credit for the
      Bear's mid-'80's success.

    Who is "Ditka"????
    
    Inquiring mindless and all that
    
    JaKe
    

    Sacrilege!!!
    
    I heard Ditka broke down during the press conference.
    
    Ritchie Pettibone is the odds on favorite.  Vince Tobin will be in
    the running along with, Ryan who is a very good fan of Owner Mike
    McCaskey.
    
    I don't think Reeves will go to Chicago.
    
    A black day for Bears football.  At least Pettibone is an ex-BEAR.
    
    Chip_GSH_Bach

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    Ryan won't get it... I bet it's Pettibon or Tobin, with Landry a long
    shot...
    
    Ditka, coach of the Pats, wouldn't that be interesting...

    Heard that Ditka stays on with Da Bears next year as a consultant
    on the boob tube last night...  Looks like he'll not be going anywhere 
    for a bit.
    
    BG
    

    Ditka is the only guy Bidwill should consider if he fires Bugel. 
    Wouldn't that be an interesting scenario given the Bidwills' ties to
    Chicago (old Chicago Cardinals) and the Bears...