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Conference 7.286::sports_91

Title:CAM::SPORTS -- Digital's Daily Sports Tabloid
Notice:This file has been archived. New notes to CAM3::SPORTS.
Moderator:CAM3::WAY
Created:Fri Dec 21 1990
Last Modified:Mon Nov 01 1993
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:290
Total number of notes:84103

31.0. "The Line" by HBAHBA::HAAS (Big Smile at the Drivethrough) Wed Jan 02 1991 13:55

Spreads, Odds, and other things for amusement purposes only.

TTom
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31.1Wild Card PlayoffsHBAHBA::HAASBig Smile at the DrivethroughWed Jan 02 1991 13:567
Saturday:
	PHILADELPHIA	4	washington	
	MIAMI		2^	kansas city	

Sunday:
	CINCINNATI	3^	houston		
	CHICAGO		6	new orleans	
31.2NFL Divisional PlayoffsHBAHBA::HAASBig Smile at the DrivethroughTue Jan 08 1991 16:487
Saturday:
	BUFFALO		6^	miami		
	SAN FRANCISCO	8	washington	

Sunday:
	NY GIANTS	7	chicago		
	LA RAIDERS	6^	cincinnati	
31.3NFL Conference PlayoffsHBAHBA::HAASBig Smile at the DrivethroughMon Jan 14 1991 18:212
	SAN FRANCISCO	7	ny giants	
	BUFFALO		6	la raiders	
31.4Update NFL line; oddsHBAHBA::HAASBig Smile at the DrivethroughFri Jan 18 1991 16:0011
update line:

	BUFFALO		7	la raiders	
	SAN FRANCISCO	8^	ny giants	

odds against winning the super bowl:

	San Francisco	1:2
	Buffalo		2:1
	NY Giants	3:1
	LA Raiders	5:1
31.5SUPER lineHBAHBA::HAASBig Smile at the DrivethroughTue Jan 22 1991 12:364
line:
	Buffalo		6	NY Giants	

over/under:		41
31.6spread recordsHBAHBA::HAASBig Smile at the DrivethroughTue Jan 22 1991 17:1522
Bills and Giants overall records and records against the spreads, thanks
to Tom CAFEIN::PFAU, keep o' the POOL.

                                        Actual Record     Vs. Spread
        Team                    PF  PA   W  L  T  Avg    W  L  T  Avg
        -------------------------------------------------------------
        Buffalo Bills         523 300  15  3  0 0.833  12  6  0 0.667
        New York Giants       381 227  15  3  0 0.833  12  6  0 0.667

                                          Straight Up                
                                 Home                    Away        
                         Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog
        -------------------------------------------------------------
        Bills            10  0  0     0  0  0     4  1  0     1  2  0
        Giants            8  1  0     0  0  0     6  1  0     1  1  0

                                        Against Spread
                                 Home                    Away        
                         Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog
        -------------------------------------------------------------
        Bills             7  3  0     0  0  0     4  1  0     1  2  0
        Giants            7  2  0     0  0  0     4  3  0     1  1  0
31.7Super Bowl CardHBAHBA::HAASBig Smile at the DrivethroughThu Jan 24 1991 11:4822
Super Bowl:
	51. Buffalo Bills	52. NY. Giants	
	53. Under 40		54. Over 42	

First team to score:
	55. Bills		56. Giants	
Most first downs:
	57. Bills		58. Giants	
Most field goals:
	59. Bills		60. Giants	

Total points scored in first quarter only:
	61. Under 8		62. Over 10	
Total points scored in second quarter only:
	63. Under 8		64. Over 10	
Total points scored in third quarter only:
	65. Under 8		66. Over 10	
Total points scored in fourth quarter only:
	67. Under 8		68. Over 10	

Last team to score:
	69. Bills		70. Giants	
31.8time to do the Bud Bowl BoogieSTAR::YANKOWSKAShe shoots, he scores!Thu Jan 24 1991 12:058
    Is there a line yet on Bud Bowl 3?  
    
    As moronic as some thought that ad campaign was, it was the only thing
    that kept me from turning off last year's Super Bowl in the 3rd
    quarter...
    
    
    py
31.9early Bud Bowl lineHBAHBA::HAASBig Smile at the DrivethroughThu Jan 24 1991 13:307
In one commercial, Danny Sheridan quoted 

	Bud	3 1/2	Bud Light

but that was before Bud Light signed Bud Dry...

TTom
31.10Big MondayHBAHBA::HAASBig Smile at the DrivethroughMon Jan 28 1991 18:164
Big Monday:

	CONNECTICUT	1	syracuse	
	ILLINOIS	6	iowa		
31.11Thrusday SectionalsHBAHBA::HAASBig Smile at the DrivethroughThu Mar 14 1991 17:1423
East, College Park, MD:				over/under
	NC State	4	Southern Miss	162
	Oklahoma St	7^	New Mexico	136
	Purdue		2	Temple		120
	Syracuse	8^	Richmond	135

Southeast, Louisville, KY:
	Pittsburgh	3^	Georgia		146
	Kansas		9	New Orleans	137
	Southern Cal	1	Florida St	152
	Indiana		21	Coastal Car.	145

Midwest, Minneapolils, MN:
	LSU		2^	Connecticut	143
	Nebraska	5^	Xavier		162
	Iowa		0	East Tenn St	162
	Duke		18	NE Louisiana	165

West, Salt Lake City, UT:
	New Mexico St	1	Creighton	137
	Seton Hall	11^	Pepperdine	139
	virginia	2	BYU		120
	Arizona		22	St Francis	158
31.12HBAHBA::HAASBig Smile at the DrivethroughFri Mar 15 1991 11:1223
East, Syracuse NY:				over/under
	No Carolina	20	Northeastern	149
	Villanova	1^	Princeton	111
	Mississippi St	2^	E Michigan	140
	UCLA		7	Penn St		146

Southeast, Atlanta GA:
	Arkansas	28^	Georgia St	177
	Arizona St	2	Rutgers		145
	Wake Forest	2^	La Tech		155
	Alabama		7^	Murray St	146

Midwest, Dayton, OH:
	Ohio St		21^	Towson St	152
	Ga Tech		0	DePaul		149
	Texas		5^	St Peter's	142
	St John's	4	N Illinois	115

West, Tuscon AZ:
	UNLV		30	Montana		170
	Georgetown	4^	Vanderbilt	121
	Michigan St	5	Wisconsin-GB	113
	Utah		2^	So Alabama`	144
31.13Final 4, NITHBAHBA::HAASBig Smile at the DrivethroughWed Mar 27 1991 13:2514
Final Four Odds:
	UNLV		 1:4
	No Carolina	 4:1
	Duke		 8:1
	Kansas		15:1


Final Four:
						over/under
	No Carolina	4	Kansas		152
	UNLV		9^	Duke		163

NIT:
	Oklahoma	3	Stanford	165
31.14FinalHBAHBA::HAASBig Smile at the DrivethroughMon Apr 01 1991 12:122
	Duke		3^	Kansas		
	Over/under:	153
31.15NBA tonightHBAHBA::HAASMiracle Network Car WashTue May 21 1991 16:404
semi-finals:

	PORTLAND	6^	la lakers	
	CHICAGO		6^	detroit		
31.16"Thanks to all who made it possible"CST17::FARLEYHave YOU seen Elvis today??Thu Jul 25 1991 13:4019
    I figured this was the best place to put this note.  If it's not,
    tuff darts!!!
    
    ;^)
    
    
    
    Q4 announcement has just been made.
    
    17% revenue growth for Q4
    $1.10 earnings per share for the quarter
    $8.18 for the year (before the $1B restructuring charge)
    total revenue $13.9B 
    7% increase for the year
    
    For the full text, check out Livewire
    
    Kev
    
31.17SHIRE::ELLISJames Brown is REALLY free this time!Thu Jul 25 1991 14:1113
Kev,

Ya, the results are good, but the 1.1 BILLION for restructuring blew my mind.

We had $150mm last year, and as I understand it rushed in another $400mm
at the end of Q4.

Now, a year later, when everyone's yapping about things looking up, we
DOUBLE it.

I'm not at all a pessimist at heart, but I don't think things are looking up.
   
rick
31.18College FootballHBAHBA::HAASSaint Frank and the Magic CowFri Aug 23 1991 10:477
Early-Kickoff College Football:

Aug 28:
	Penn St		2^	Georgia Tech	

Aug 29:
	Florida St	14	BYU		
31.19Week# 1CGVAX2::MILLERTue Aug 27 1991 11:305
    
    	Does anybody have the line yet on Week#1??
    
    
    s/
31.20CAM::WAYEeeee, Eeeee, Eeeee...Tue Aug 27 1991 11:327
If you ask Hal, he'll tell ya the Browns are gonna take it all, Bernie
will solve world hunger, Art Modell will win the Nobel Peace Prize,
Bill Belichick will find the cure for AIDS in his spare time at home, 
and Michael No Glove Jackson will get his degree in Proctology....


8^)
31.21did he have a banjo?CTHQ1::LEARYTue Aug 27 1991 11:504
    Hey Saw,
    	Mebbe in the Junk notes file, fill us in on the Deliverance-type
    dude who did the Eeeee, Eeeee bit. Thanks
    
31.22only 4ROULET::WHITEHAIRDon't just sit there.......Do it now!Tue Aug 27 1991 13:0412
    
    	You asked...
    
    		Browns getting 3 over Dallas
    
    		San Diego getting 4.5 over the Squeelers
    
    		Raiders getting 3 over Houston
    
    		Cinci getting 2 over Eitherway's team
    
    
31.23Pro #1HBAHBA::HAASSaint Frank and the Magic CowTue Aug 27 1991 15:2617
Sunday:
	NY JETS		2^	tampa bay	
	dallas		2	CLEVELAND	
	NEW ORLEANS	4	seattle		
	KANSAS CITY	7	atlanta		
	philadelphia	2	GREEN BAY	
	CHICAGO		2	minnesota	
	PITTSBURGH	5	san diego	
	DENVER		2	cincinnati	
	LA RAMS		6^	phoenix		
	HOUSTON		2^	la raiders	
	BUFFALO		7	miami		
	INDIANOPOLIS	7^	new england	
	WASHINGTON	7^	detroit		

Monday:
	NY GIANTS	2^	san francisco	
31.24College, Week the firstHBAHBA::HAASSaint Frank and the Magic CowTue Aug 27 1991 15:3014
Wednesday:
	Penn St		2^	Georgia Tech	(East Rutherford, NJ)

Thursday:
	Florida St	14	BYU		(Anaheim, CA)

Saturday:
	miami-fl	21^	ARKANSAS	(Little Rock, AK)
	RUTGERS		2	boston college	
	WYOMING		5	hawaii		
	mississippi	3	TULANE		
	ILLINOIS	13	east carolina	
	WEST VIRGINIA	2^	pittsburgh	
	TEXAS EL-PASO	3	new mexico	
31.25Odds for College Football ChampionHBAHBA::HAASSaint Frank and the Magic CowTue Aug 27 1991 19:1122
Danny Sheridan's Odds against winning the National Championship

	Florida St	  4:1
	Miami-FL	  5:1
	Oklahoma	  5:1
	Notre Dame	  7:1
	Michigan	  7:1
	Washington	  8:1
	Houston		 10:1
	Georgia Tech	 15:1
	Clemson		 15:1
	Auburn		 20:1
	Florida		 20:1
	Penn St		 25:1
	UCLA		 25:1
	Southern Cal	 25:1
	Iowa		 30:1
	Colorado	 30:1
	Nebraska	 50:1
	Tennessee	 75:1
	Ohio St		100:1
	Field		 10:1
31.26Super Bowl OddsHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelFri Aug 30 1991 16:0330
Danny Sheridan's Odds against winning the Super Bowl XXVI

	Buffalo		5:1
	San Francisco	6:1
	NY Giants	6:1
	LA Raiders	10:1
	Philadelphia	10:1
	Washington	12:1
	Kansas City	12:1
	Houston		15:1
	Chicago		20:1
	Miami		20:1
	LA Rams		25:1
	Cincinnati	30:1
	Pittsburgh	30:1	
	Minnesota	40:1
	Denver		50:1
	New Orleans	50:1
	Seattle		75:1
	Green Bay	100:1
	Detroit		250:1
	Dallas		500:1
	Indianapolis	1,000:1
	San Diego	10,000:1
	Atlanta		25,000:1
	Tampa Bay	50,000:1
	NY Jets		100,000:1
	Phoenix		250,000:1
	Cleveland	500,000:1
	New England	1,000,000:1
31.27(8^0*ECAMV3::JACOBSwallowing saliva causes cancerFri Aug 30 1991 19:4413
    
>>Cleveland	500,000:1
    
    Sort of makes you want to just put a buck on the Brown(spot)s(tm),
    doesn't it???
    
    On second thought, I think I'll save the dollar for something useful
    and productive, like when I'm in a public john and run out of toilet
    paper.  At least it won't go to waste as it would on the 'Spots!!
    
    
    JaKe
    	
31.28Week 2 ?CGVAX2::MILLERTue Sep 03 1991 12:434
    
    How 'bout week 2 spreads?
    
    s/
31.29Pro Week 2HBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Sep 03 1991 13:1217
Sunday:
	chicago		3	TAMPA BAY	
	NEW ENGLAND	0	cleveland	
	DETROIT		3	green bay	
	MIAMI		8^	indianapolis	
	NY GIANTS	7^	la rams		
	ATLANTA		1	minnesota	
	KANSAS CITY	6	new orleans	
	PHILADELPHIA	6^	phoenix		
	BUFFALO		7^	pittsburgh	
	SAN FRANCISCO	13^	san diego	
	LA RAIDERS	5	denver		
	SEATTLE		5	ny jets		
	CINCINNATI	2^	houston		

Monday:
	washington	2	DALLAS		
31.30College Week 2HBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Sep 03 1991 16:2929
Thursday:
	tennessee	7^	LOUISVILLE	

Saturday:
	virginia	4	MARYLAND	
	NC STATE	1	va tech		
	PENN ST		37	cincinnati	
	PITTSBURGH	6	southern miss	
	NOTRE DAME	18	indiana		
	COLORADO ST	5	air force	
	IOWA		16	hawaii		
	ALABAMA		18	temple		(Birmingham)
	michigan	25	BOSTON COLLEGE	
	GEORGIA		5	lsu		
	washington	7^	STANFORD	
	OHIO ST		8^	arizona		
	OREGON ST	1	utah		
	OREGON		8^	washington st	
	TULSA		2^	oklahoma st	
	FLORIDA ST	41	tulane		
	texas		8^	MISSISSIPPI ST	
	SO CAROLINA	9	duke		
	SYRACUSE	24	vanderbilt	
	COLORADO	23	wyoming		
	TCU		20	new mexico	
	ARKANSAS	16	smu		(Little Rock)
	BAYLOR		18^	texas-el paso	
	mississippi	3	MEMPHIS ST	
	UCLA		5	byu		
31.31NFL, Week 3HBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Sep 10 1991 10:3617
Sunday:
	cincinnati	3^	CLEVELAND	
	WASHINGTON	9	phoenix		
	miami		2	DETROIT		
	san francisco	3	MINNESOTA	
	DALLAS		3	philadelphia	
	ny giants	1^	CHICAGO		
	PITTSBURGH	14	new england	
	GREEN BAY	4	tampa bay	
	SAN DIEGO	2	atlanta		
	LA RAIDERS	7^	indianapolis	
	DENVER		6	seattle		
	buffalo		8	NY JETS		
	NEW ORLEANS	3	la rams		

Monday:
	HOUSTON		4	kansas city	
31.32CollegeHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Sep 10 1991 10:3634
Thursday:
	MIAMI-FL	7	houston		

Saturday:
	georgia tech	15	BOSTON COLLEGE	
	DUKE		5^	rutgers		
	OHIO ST		17	louisville	
	so carolina	4	WEST VIRGINIA	
	iowa		14	IOWA ST		
	illinois	7	MISSOURI	
	KANSAS		5^	tulsa		
	NEBRASKA	22^	colorado st	
	WYOMING		9	sw louisiana	
	rice		8	NORTHWESTERN	
	COLORADO	8	baylor		
	MICHIGAN	3^	notre dame	
	CALIFORNIA	15	purdue		
	ARIZONA		1^	stanford	
	TEXAS A&M	12	lsu		
	EAST CAROLINA	3^	memphis st	
	TENNESSEE	8	ucla		
	PITTSBURGH	17	temple		
	AUBURN		12	mississippi	
	MISSISSIPPI ST	13^	tulane		
	NO CAROLINA	31^	cincinnati	
	syracuse	6	MARYLAND	
	VIRGINIA	29	navy		
	FLORIDA		7	alabama		
	arizona st	4	OKLAHOMA ST	
	VANDERBILT	4	smu		
	oregon		2	TEXAS TECH	
	penn st		7	SOUTHERN CAL	
	air force	5	UTAH		
	HAWAII		29	new mexico	
31.33NFL Week 4HBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Sep 17 1991 10:5117
Sunday:
	la raiders	2^	ATLANTA		
	washington	4	CINCINNATI	
	PHILADELPHIA	3^	pittsburgh
	MIAMI		8	green bay	
	houston		11	NEW ENGLAND
	NEW ORLEANS	3	minnesota	
	INDIANAPOLIS	0	detroit		
	NY GIANTS	12	cleveland	
	buffalo		8	TAMPA BAY
	SAN FRANCISCO	7	la rams		
	KANSAS CITY	7^	seattle		
	DENVER		9	san diego	
	PHOENIX		1^	dallas		

Monday:
	CHICAGO		8	ny jets		
31.34CollegeHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Sep 17 1991 10:5238
Thursday:
	GEORGIA TECH	12	virginia	

Saturday:
	nc state	12	WAKE FOREST	
	cornell		5	PRINCETON	
	TENNESSEE	13^	mississippi st	
	HARVARD		13	columbia	
	CLEMSON		25	temple		
	no carolina	10^	ARMY		
	dartmouth	1	PENNSYLVANIA	
	YALE		9^	brown		
	RUTGERS		16	northwestern	
	OHIO ST		19^	washington st	
	NOTRE DAME	12	michigan st	
	AIR FORCE	3	san diego st	
	INDIANA		11^	kentucky	
	WYOMING		2	texas tech	
	iowa st		4	WISCONSIN	
	COLORADO	16	minnesota	
	florida		9	SYRACUSE	
	houston		9^	ILLINOIS	
	SOUTHERN CAL	7^	arizona st	
	MARYLAND	2	west virginia	
	SOUTHERN MISS	8	colorado st	
	ARKANSAS	10	sw louisiana	
	va tech		1	SO CAROLINA	
	texas a&m	18	TULSA		
	TEXAS		3^	auburn		
	tcu		3^	OKLAHOMA ST	
	PENN ST		12	byu		
	ALABAMA		6	georgia		
	NEBRASKA	0	washington	
	BAYLOR		13	missouri	
	rice		7	TULANE		
	LSU		13	vanderbilt	
	oregon		13^	UTAH		
	california	3^	ARIZONA		
31.35NFL records against the spreadHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Sep 17 1991 20:3540
To compliment the line, here's how the NFL is doing straight up and
against the spread. This information comes from Tom Pfau, who runs the
NFL Pool, CAFEIN::POOL_91. These records use the spreads that we all pick
against in the Pool. Many thanks to Tom.

                                Actual Record     Vs. Spread
Team                    PF  PA   W  L  T  Avg    W  L  T  Avg
Washington Redskins   112  31   3  0  0 1.000   2  0  1 0.833
Philadelphia Eagles    54  29   2  1  0 0.667   2  1  0 0.667
Phoenix Cardinals      50  58   2  1  0 0.667   2  1  0 0.667
Dallas Cowboys         57  71   1  2  0 0.333   1  1  1 0.500
New York Giants        46  53   1  2  0 0.333   0  3  0 0.000

Chicago Bears          51  43   3  0  0 1.000   2  1  0 0.667
Detroit Lions          40  72   2  1  0 0.667   2  1  0 0.667
Minnesota Vikings      43  43   2  1  0 0.667   2  1  0 0.667
Green Bay Packers      32  56   1  2  0 0.333   0  3  0 0.000
Tampa Bay Buccaneers   46  52   0  3  0 0.000   2  1  0 0.667

New Orleans Saints     68  41   3  0  0 1.000   2  1  0 0.667
Atlanta Falcons        35  44   1  2  0 0.333   1  2  0 0.333
Los Angeles Rams       40  61   1  2  0 0.333   1  2  0 0.333
San Francisco 49ers    62  47   1  2  0 0.333   2  1  0 0.667

Buffalo Bills         110  85   3  0  0 1.000   1  2  0 0.333
Miami Dolphins         61  58   1  2  0 0.333   2  1  0 0.667
New England Patriots   22  47   1  2  0 0.333   1  2  0 0.333
New York Jets          49  56   1  2  0 0.333   2  1  0 0.667
Indianapolis Colts     13  49   0  3  0 0.000   0  3  0 0.000

Houston Oilers         94  31   3  0  0 1.000   3  0  0 1.000
Cleveland Browns       48  39   2  1  0 0.667   2  1  0 0.667
Pittsburgh Steelers    80  78   2  1  0 0.667   2  1  0 0.667
Cincinnati Bengals     34  89   0  3  0 0.000   0  3  0 0.000

Denver Broncos         74  40   2  1  0 0.667   2  0  1 0.833
Los Angeles Raiders    49  60   2  1  0 0.667   1  2  0 0.333
Kansas City Chiefs     31  37   1  2  0 0.333   1  2  0 0.333
Seattle Seahawks       54  56   1  2  0 0.333   2  0  1 0.833
San Diego Chargers     44  73   0  3  0 0.000   0  3  0 0.000
31.36CSC32::SALZERTue Sep 17 1991 23:489
    I was checking some things and the guys on MNF only confirmed 
    what I saw. Of the 14 pro games scheduled, only 1 made the 
    'over' on the over-under line.  The Bears-Giants game was the 
    exception and that seemed lower than I would have thought.
    Four or 5 shutouts were seen. You cant make too much of 1 week's
    sampling, but it will be interesting to see if the low scores
    continue and what they might do about it. 
    
    BoB
31.37shorter game, less scoring?HBAHBA::HAASMental ModelWed Sep 18 1991 11:505
One of the concerns of the fans interested in this sort of thing was that
the rule changes to speed up the game would result in less scoring,
favoring the under.

TTom
31.38over undersHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelWed Sep 18 1991 12:0030
Here's some under/overs. The way these work is you pick one of the other
and on ties, you lose. This method gives the book a huge advantage. For
instance in the Raiders-Falcons game if the final score was 20-16, the
under would win. If it was 24-16, the over would win. If the total is 37,
38 or 39, all bets lose (since you lose on ties). 

If all that's too much to sort through, split the difference and it'll be
close to a single number (e.g., 38 for the Raiders-Falcons) that you
could play straight up, except you're not supposed to do that sort of
thing, this intending to be used for  "News Matter Only and as a Trade
Stimulator".

Sunday:
						under/over
	la raiders	2	ATLANTA		37/39
	washington	4	CINCINNATI	42/44
	PHILADELPHIA	3^	pittsburgh	35/37
	MIAMI		7^	green bay	38/40
	houston		11	NEW ENGLAND	39/41
	NEW ORLEANS	3	minnesota	36/38
	INDIANAPOLIS	0	detroit		36/38
	NY GIANTS	12	cleveland	35/37
	buffalo		8	TAMPA BAY	44/46
	SAN FRANCISCO	8	la rams		40/42
	KANSAS CITY	7^	seattle		35/37
	DENVER		8	san diego	37/39
	PHOENIX		1^	dallas		35/37

Monday:
	CHICAGO		7^	ny jets		N/A
31.39more nfl against the spreadHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelWed Sep 18 1991 12:0533
More from Tom Pfau's Pool:

                                    Straight Up                                   Against Spread
                           Home                    Away                    Home                    Away
                   Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog
Falcons             0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Bills               2  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0
Bears               1  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0
Bengals             0  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0
Browns              0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0
Cowboys             0  1  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  1     1  0  0     0  0  0
Broncos             2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  1     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0
Lions               1  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0
Packers             1  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0
Oilers              2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0
Colts               0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0
Chiefs              1  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0
Raiders             2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0
Rams                0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Dolphins            1  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  0
Vikings             0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Patriots            0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Saints              2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0
Jets                1  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0
Giants              1  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0
Eagles              0  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0
Cardinals           0  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  1  0
Steelers            2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0
Chargers            0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0
49ers               1  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  0
Seahawks            1  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  1
Buccaneers          0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Redskins            2  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  1     0  0  0
31.40NFL, Week 5HBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Sep 24 1991 10:3517
Sunday:
	BUFFALO		7	chicago		
	ny giants	2	DALLAS		
	DETROIT		5	tampa bay	
	new orleans	1	ATLANTA		
	san francisco	1^	LA RAIDERS	
	SEATTLE		8	indianapolis	
	LA RAMS		5	green bay	
	miami		3	NY JETS		
	PHOENIX		7	new england	
	kansas city	4^	SAN DIEGO	
	MINNESOTA	5	denver		

Monday:
	WASHINGTON	6	philadelphia	

Byes:	Cincinnati, Cleveland, Houston, Pittsburgh
31.41CollegeHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Sep 24 1991 10:3535
Thursday:
	ucla		8	SAN DIEGO ST	

Saturday:
	NC STATE	7	no carolina	
	florida st	3	MICHIGAN	
	CLEMSON		8	georgia tech	
	FLORIDA		13^	mississippi st	(Orlando)
	ARMY		28	harvard		
	VIRGINIA	7	duke		
	PENN ST		25^	boston college	
	MICHIGAN ST	13	rutgers		
	EAST CAROLINA	0	so carolina	
	WYOMING		14	texas-el paso	
	notre dame	25	PURDUE		
	OKLAHOMA	17	va tech		
	BYU		12	air force	
	COLORADO ST	1^	hawaii		
	wake forest	3	NORTHWESTERN	
	miami-fl	23	TULSA		
	indiana		3	MISSOURI	
	WASHINGTON	37^	kansas st	
	colorado	7	STANFORD	
	LOUISVILLE	2	southern miss	
	TENNESSEE	6^	auburn		
	TEXAS A&M	27	sw louisiana	
	MISSISSIPPI	12	arkansas	(Jackson, Miss)
	TEXAS TECH	3^	tcu		
	alabama		18	VANDERBILT	
	pittsburgh	10	MINNESOTA	
	baylor		23^	SMU		
	RICE		7	iowa st		
	syracuse	18	TULANE		
	nebraska	5^	ARIZONA ST	
	OREGON		0	southern cal	
31.42team standing/results vs spreadsHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Sep 24 1991 18:2833
From Tom Pfau/1991 NFL Pool:

                                    Straight Up                                   Against Spread
                           Home                    Away                    Home                    Away
                   Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog
Falcons             0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Bills               2  0  0     0  0  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0
Bears               2  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0
Bengals             0  1  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  1  0
Browns              0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     2  0  0
Cowboys             0  1  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  1     1  0  0     1  0  0
Broncos             3  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     1  1  1     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0
Lions               1  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0
Packers             1  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Oilers              2  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  0
Colts               0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0
Chiefs              2  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0
Raiders             2  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0
Rams                0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0
Dolphins            2  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  0
Vikings             0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0
Patriots            0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Saints              3  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0
Jets                1  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Giants              2  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  3  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0
Eagles              1  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0
Cardinals           0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  1  0
Steelers            2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0
Chargers            0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  3  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0
49ers               2  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  0
Seahawks            1  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  3  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  0  1
Buccaneers          0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Redskins            2  0  0     0  0  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  1     0  0  0
31.43NFL Week 6HBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Oct 01 1991 09:4917
Sunday:
	CINCINNATI	3^	seattle		
	dallas		2^	GREEN BAY	
	HOUSTON		7^	denver		
	ny jets		1	CLEVELAND	
	DETROIT		3	minnesota	
	miami		6^	NEW ENGLAND	
	washington	2^	CHICAGO		
	philadelphia	4^	TAMPA BAY	
	LA RAIDERS	8	san diego	
	NY GIANTS	10	phoenix		
	pittsburgh	6	INDIANAPOLIS	

Monday:
	buffalo		3	KANSAS CITY	

Bye:	Atlanta, LA Rams, New Orleans, San Francisco
31.44College FootballHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Oct 01 1991 09:5035
Saturday:
	georgia tech	2^	NC STATE	
	WEST VIRGINIA	2	va tech		
	clemson		8	GEORGIA		
	RUTGERS		10	army		(East Rutherford)
	VIRGINIA	10^	kansas		
	PITTSBURGH	12^	maryland	
	DUKE		15	vanderbilt	
	OHIO ST		23	wisconsin	
	oklahoma	18	IOWA ST		
	AIR FORCE	4	wyoming		
	INDIANA		7^	michigan st	
	ILLINOIS	15	minnesota	
	FLORIDA ST	17^	syracuse	
	michigan	1	IOWA		
	purdue		2^	NORTHWESTERN	
	AUBURN		12^	southern miss	
	MISSOURI	2	memphis st	
	TEXAS		15^	rice		
	UCLA		4^	california	
	WASHINGTON	29	arizona		
	MIAMI-FL	36	oklahoma st	
	LOUISVILLE	30^	cincinnati	
	WASHINGTON ST	16	oregon st	
	HOUSTON		0	baylor		
	florida		23	LSU		
	TULANE		7	smu		
	mississippi	4^	KENTUCKY	
	TCU		8	arkansas	
	texas a&m	11	TEXAS TECH	
	penn st		23	TEMPLE		
	colorado st	3	TEXAS-EL PASO	
	ARIZONA ST	15	utah		
	notre dame	9^	STANFORD	
	HAWAII		3	san diego st	
31.45NFL spread resultsHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelWed Oct 02 1991 13:0932
From Tom Pfau/Pool:
                                    Straight Up                                   Against Spread
                           Home                    Away                    Home                    Away
                   Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog
Falcons             0  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Bills               3  0  0     0  0  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0
Bears               2  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     1  1  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0
Bengals             0  1  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  1  0
Browns              0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     2  0  0
Cowboys             0  1  0     1  1  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  1     1  0  0     1  0  0
Broncos             3  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     1  1  1     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  0  0
Lions               2  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     2  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0
Packers             1  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  3  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     2  1  0
Oilers              2  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  0
Colts               0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  3  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  3  0
Chiefs              2  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0
Raiders             2  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     1  1  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0
Rams                1  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0
Dolphins            2  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     1  0  0
Vikings             0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0
Patriots            0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0
Saints              3  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0
Jets                1  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     1  0  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Giants              2  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     0  3  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0
Eagles              1  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  1  0
Cardinals           1  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  1  0
Steelers            2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0
Chargers            0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  3  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0
49ers               2  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     1  0  0
Seahawks            2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  3  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  0  1
Buccaneers          0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     0  3  0     0  0  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0
Redskins            3  0  0     0  0  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     3  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  1     0  0  0
31.46just pick the winnerHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelMon Oct 07 1991 10:4217
So far, the line hasn't mattered in a single pro game this week.
Favorites either won the game and covered or lost the game. 

Here's the results:
	seattle 13, CINCINNATI 7	lost
	dallas 20, GREEN BAY 17		won
	HOUSTON 42, denver 14		won
	ny jets 17, CLEVELAND 14	won
	DETROIT 24, minnesota 20	won
	miami 20, NEW ENGLAND 10	won
	washington 20, CHICAGO 7	won
	TAMPA BAY 14, philadelphia 13	lost
	san diego 21, LA RAIDERS 13	lost
	NY GIANTS 20, phoenix 9		won
	pittsburgh 21, INDIANAPOLIS 3	won

TTom
31.47perfect weekHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Oct 08 1991 11:278
re: -1

KANSAS CITY 33, buffalo 7

Buffalo and Kansas City completed the sweep. Kansas City, the dog, won
the game. 8 favorites won and covered, 4 favorites lost the game.

TTom
31.48NFL, Week 7HBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Oct 08 1991 12:0114
Sunday:
	SAN FRANCISCO	10^	atlanta		
	BUFFALO		18	indianapolis	
	new orleans	4	PHILADELPHIA	
	DALLAS		6^	cincinnati	
	MINNESOTA	7	phoenix		
	WASHINGTON	14	cleveland	
	KANSAS CITY	6	miami		
	LA RAMS		3	san diego	
	houston		3	ny jets		
	SEATTLE		2	la raiders	

Monday:
	ny giants	3^	PITTSBURGH	
31.49College FootballHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Oct 08 1991 12:0240
Saturday:
	MIAMI-FL	9^	penn st		
	BOSTON COLLEGE	1	louisville	
	CLEMSON		10	virginia	
	michigan	26	MICHIGAN ST	
	FLORIDA ST	28	va tech		(Orlando)
	GEORGIA TECH	14	maryland	
	WEST VIRGINIA	14	temple		
	princeton	8^	BROWN		
	air force	13^	NAVY		
	FLORIDA		4^	tennessee	
	NO CAROLINA	21	wake forest	
	SYRACUSE	13	east carolina	
	pennsylvania	2	COLUMBIA	
	NOTRE DAME	14	pittsburgh	
	ILLINOIS	3	ohio st		
	BYU		23	texas-el paso	
	BAYLOR		20	rice		
	INDIANA		20	northwestern	
	iowa		19	WISCONSIN	
	COLORADO	18^	missouri	
	kansas		10	KANSAS ST	
	nebraska	28	OKLAHOMA ST	
	MISSISSIPPI ST	13	kentucky	
	MINNESOTA	5	purdue		
	oklahoma	5^	TEXAS		(Dallas)
	houston		11^	ARKANSAS	
	texas tech	6	SMU		
	WYOMING		2^	utah		
	ALABAMA		31	tulane		
	STANFORD	45	cornell		
	CALIFORNIA	10	oregon		
	arizona st	20	OREGON ST	
	southern cal	7^	WASHINGTON ST	
	MISSISSIPPI	2	georgia		
	auburn		20	VANDERBILT	
	tulsa		6	SW LOUISIANA	
	southern miss	3	MEMPHIS ST	
	SAN DIEGO ST	31	new mexico	
	UCLA		13^	arizona		
31.50houston at NY JETSHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Oct 08 1991 15:4814
Sunday:
	SAN FRANCISCO	10^	atlanta		
	BUFFALO		18	indianapolis	
	new orleans	4	PHILADELPHIA	
	DALLAS		6^	cincinnati	
	MINNESOTA	7	phoenix		
	WASHINGTON	14	cleveland	
	KANSAS CITY	6	miami		
	LA RAMS		3	san diego	
	houston		3	NY JETS		
	SEATTLE		2	la raiders	

Monday:
	ny giants	3^	PITTSBURGH	
31.51LCS oddsHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Oct 08 1991 19:005
Danny Sheridan odds on LCS:

	Minnesota	8-5	Toronto

	Pittsburgh	3-2	Atlanta
31.52spread resultsHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelWed Oct 09 1991 14:1532
From Tom Pfau/POOL:
                                    Straight Up                                   Against Spread
                           Home                    Away                    Home                    Away
                   Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog
Falcons             0  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Bills               3  0  0     0  0  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     0  3  0     0  0  0
Bears               2  0  0     1  1  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     0  1  0     0  1  0
Bengals             0  2  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  1  0
Browns              0  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     2  0  0
Cowboys             0  1  0     1  1  0     2  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  1     2  0  0     1  0  0
Broncos             3  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     1  1  1     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  1  0
Lions               3  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     3  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0
Packers             1  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     0  3  0     0  1  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     2  1  0
Oilers              3  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     3  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  0
Colts               0  1  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     0  3  0     0  1  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     0  3  0
Chiefs              2  1  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     1  2  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0
Raiders             2  1  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     1  2  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0
Rams                1  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0
Dolphins            2  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     1  0  0
Vikings             0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  3  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  3  0
Patriots            0  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  2  0
Saints              3  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0
Jets                1  0  0     1  1  0     1  0  0     0  2  0     1  0  0     2  0  0     1  0  0     1  1  0
Giants              3  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     1  3  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0
Eagles              1  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     1  1  0
Cardinals           1  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  2  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  2  0
Steelers            2  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  2  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  2  0
Chargers            0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     1  3  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     2  2  0
49ers               2  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     1  0  0
Seahawks            2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  3  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     3  0  1
Buccaneers          0  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     0  3  0     0  0  0     3  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0
Redskins            3  0  0     0  0  0     3  0  0     0  0  0     3  0  0     0  0  0     2  0  1     0  0  0
31.53NFL 20 point lineHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelThu Oct 10 1991 09:2811
This is a first for me. I ain't saying it never happened, just that I
ain't seen it.

	BUFFALO		20	indianapolis	

A 20 point spread in the NFL!

It doesn't look like this is going to be the one game that Eric Dickerson
hoped the Colts would win.

TTom
31.54HPSRAD::RIEURead his lips...Know new taxes!Thu Oct 10 1991 14:183
       ...and Buffalo's been scoring big at home. They'll probably even
    cover this thing.
                                    Denny
31.55used to love tease betting the seahawks...always coveredAGNT99::CHILDSHey Sis, pull my toungue out ,will ya?Thu Oct 10 1991 14:458
used to happen all the time TTom back in the seventies when the Bucanneers and
Seahawks joined the league as expansion franchise. Also Teams like the Steelers
and Raiders who dominated the game at the time would give up 18 points routinely

 let me put it this way Denny would you take the Points?

 mike
31.56double digit dogHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelThu Oct 10 1991 15:118
I saw something a while back or so that showed what would have happened
if you had played every double digit spread and always took the dog.
Something like near 70% of the time the dogs won.

It still would be hard to take the Colts and the Points, even if
Dickerson doesn't play.

TTom
31.57CAM::WAYWith Malice Toward NoneThu Oct 10 1991 16:173
Of course, that's strictly for amusement purposes only, right TTom???

;^)
31.58and as a trade stimulatorHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelThu Oct 10 1991 16:470
31.59Buffs in a routHPSRAD::RIEURead his lips...Know new taxes!Thu Oct 10 1991 17:272
       No way I'd take the points Mac.
                                      Denny
31.60CSC32::SALZERThu Oct 10 1991 18:275
    Oklahoma -5^ vs TEXAS!
    
    Somewhere between 10-13 sounds more reasonable to me.
    
    BoB
31.61NFL week 8HBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Oct 15 1991 12:0717
Thursday:
	chicago		3	GREEN BAY	

Sunday:
	houston		4	MIAMI		
	PITTSBURGH	4	seattle		
	NEW ORLEANS	13	tampa bay	
	minnesota	7	NEW ENGLAND	
	ny jets		12	INDIANAPOLIS	
	DENVER		1	kansas city	
	LA RAIDERS	4	la rams		
	SAN FRANCISCO	7	detroit		
	atlanta		2	PHOENIX		
	SAN DIEGO	5^	cleveland	

Monday:
	BUFFALO		13	cincinnati	
31.62College footballHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Oct 15 1991 12:0839
Saturday:
	VIRGINIA	8	no carolina	
	BOSTON COLLEGE	1	west virginia	
	TEMPLE		17	navy		
	harvard		1	CORNELL		
	MICHIGAN	18^	indiana		
	PENN ST		26	rutgers		
	OHIO ST		26	northwestern	(Cleveland)
	maryland	10	WAKE FOREST	
	VA TECH		27^	cincinnati	
	YALE		1^	dartmouth	
	MICHIGAN ST	2^	minnesota	
	georgia tech	6^	SO CAROLINA	
	syracuse	2	PITTSBURGH	
	notre dame	19	AIR FORCE	
	BAYLOR		4^	texas a&m	
	NEBRASKA	33	kansas st	
	BYU		21	hawaii		
	georgia		16	VANDERBILT	
	MISSOURI	9^	oklahoma st	
	PURDUE		4^	wisconsin	
	KANSAS		3^	iowa st		
	UTAH		6^	colorado st	
	SOUTHERN MISS	24	tulane		
	OKLAHOMA	3	colorado	
	ALABAMA		2^	tennessee	(Birmingham)
	MISSISSIPPI ST	11	memphis st	
	RICE		2	tcu		
	IOWA		4^	illinois	
	washington	14	CALIFORNIA	
	ucla		28	OREGON ST	
	LOUISVILLE	9^	army		
	HOUSTON		24	smu		
	SOUTHERN CAL	6	stanford	
	texas		9^	ARKANSAS	(Little Rock)
	KENTUCKY	0	lsu		
	san diego st	4	TEXAS-EL PASO	
	wyoming		12^	NEW MEXICO	
	ARIZONA ST	10	washington st	
31.63NLCSHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelWed Oct 16 1991 11:163
Tonight's NLCS:

	PITTSBURGH, 5 1/2 - 5 over Atlanta
31.64NFL resultsHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelThu Oct 17 1991 14:5032
From Tom Pfau/POOL:
                                    Straight Up                                   Against Spread
                           Home                    Away                    Home                    Away
                   Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog
Falcons             0  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     2  1  0     0  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     2  1  0
Bills               4  0  0     0  0  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     3  1  0     0  0  0     0  3  0     0  0  0
Bears               2  0  0     1  1  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     0  1  0     0  1  0
Bengals             0  2  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  2  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  2  0
Browns              0  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     2  1  0
Cowboys             1  1  0     1  1  0     2  0  0     1  0  0     1  1  0     1  0  1     2  0  0     1  0  0
Broncos             3  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     1  1  1     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  1  0
Lions               3  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     3  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0
Packers             1  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     0  3  0     0  1  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     2  1  0
Oilers              3  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     1  0  0     3  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  1     1  0  0
Colts               0  1  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     0  4  0     0  1  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     0  4  0
Chiefs              3  1  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     2  2  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0
Raiders             2  1  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     1  1  0     1  2  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     1  1  0
Rams                2  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0
Dolphins            2  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  2  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     1  1  0
Vikings             1  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  3  0     1  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  3  0
Patriots            0  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  2  0
Saints              3  0  0     0  0  0     2  0  0     1  0  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     2  0  0     1  0  0
Jets                1  0  0     1  2  0     1  0  0     0  2  0     1  0  0     2  0  1     1  0  0     1  1  0
Giants              3  1  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     1  3  0     0  0  0     0  3  0     0  0  0
Eagles              1  1  0     0  1  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     0  1  0     1  1  0     1  1  0
Cardinals           1  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  3  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  3  0
Steelers            2  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     0  2  0     2  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  2  0
Chargers            0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     1  4  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     2  3  0
49ers               2  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     1  0  0
Seahawks            2  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  3  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     3  0  1
Buccaneers          0  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     0  3  0     0  0  0     3  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0
Redskins            4  0  0     0  0  0     3  0  0     0  0  0     4  0  0     0  0  0     2  0  1     0  0  0
31.65CGVAX2::MILLERTue Oct 22 1991 17:564
    
    	Anybody have this weekends spreads?
    
    Steve
31.66RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JODon't quit the day job...Tue Oct 22 1991 18:053
    I think MrT listed them over the World Series note...
    
    JD
31.67PigskinCGVAX2::MILLERTue Oct 22 1991 18:194
    
    	Couldn't find any??  What about pigskin spreads?
    
    steve
31.68NFL week 9HBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Oct 22 1991 19:3015
Sunday:
	san francisco	5	PHILADELPHIA	
	HOUSTON		13	cincinnati	
	NEW ORLEANS	6^	chicago		
	ATLANTA		2	la rams		
	TAMPA BAY	2^	green bay	
	CLEVELAND	1^	pittsburgh	
	denver		6	NEW ENGLAND	
	DETROIT		2^	dallas		
	SEATTLE		6	san diego	
	minnesota	2^	PHOENIX		
	washington	1	NY GIANTS	

Monday:
	KANSAS CITY	6^	la raiders	
31.69CollegeHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Oct 22 1991 19:3044
Friday:
	michigan	23	MINNESOTA	

Saturday:
	syracuse	13	RUTGERS		
	GEORGIA TECH	10	no carolina	
	DARTMOUTH	8^	cornell		
	PENN ST		17	west virginia	
	CLEMSON		7^	nc state	
	GEORGIA		19	kentucky	
	VA TECH		22	louisville	
	boston college	4	ARMY		
	southern miss	17	CINCINNATI	
	princeton	4	HARVARD		
	PENNSYLVANIA	4^	brown		
	MARYLAND	0	duke		
	EAST CAROLINA	3^	pittsburgh	
	yale		8^	COLUMBIA	
	NOTRE DAME	13^	southern cal	
	NEBRASKA	21	missouri	
	iowa		12^	PURDUE		
	BAYLOR		12	tcu		
	MISSISSIPPI	13	vanderbilt	
	IOWA ST		7	oklahoma st	
	illinois	20^	NORTHWESTERN	
	AIR FORCE	13	texas-el paso	
	WYOMING		3	colorado st	
	UTAH		2	san diego st	
	indiana		15	WISCONSIN	
	colorado	19	KANSAS ST	
	OKLAHOMA	15	kansas		
	AUBURN		7	mississippi st	
	TEXAS A&M	12^	houston		
	texas		22	SMU		
	TEXAS TECH	3	rice		
	OHIO ST		18	michigan st	
	WASHINGTON	30	oregon		
	STANFORD	29^	oregon st	
	VIRGINIA	21^	wake forest	
	florida st	29^	LSU		
	MEMPHIS ST	3	tulsa		
	byu		28	NEW MEXICO	
	ucla		7^	ARIZONA ST	
	miami-fl	25	ARIZONA		
31.70Week 10??CGVAX2::MILLERTue Oct 29 1991 16:414
    
    This weekends spreads out yet?
    
    Steve
31.71MCIS1::DHAMELBrighto! Makes old bodies new!Tue Oct 29 1991 18:2511
    
    >    This weekends spreads out yet?
    
    Yes, MrT has prepared a lovely liver pate that is ablolutely
    scrumptious with stone-ground wheat crackers.
    
    There's also cheese-whiz, but don't try it cuz he makes it with real
    whiz.
    
    Dickstah
    
31.72CAM::WAYMUNG, the #1 WORST TreatTue Oct 29 1991 18:2723
    >    This weekends spreads out yet?    


	Yes, I'm out to a 38 big butt size.

	Patrick Swayze's spread is still cut and uplifted according
	to Hanz and Franz.

	Roseanne Arnold is leading the pack with the largest spread
	this side of Russia.



>    There's also cheese-whiz, but don't try it cuz he makes it with real
>    whiz.


Be careful.  AFter that World Series, it could really be "Special Sauce"



'Saw    

31.73NFL week 10HBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Oct 29 1991 19:2515
Sunday:
	WASHINGTON	6^	houston		
	CHICAGO		6	detroit		
	cleveland	2^	CINCINNATI	
	MINNESOTA	12	tampa bay	
	BUFFALO		18	new england	
	DALLAS		9^	phoenix		
	NY JETS		7	green bay	
	san francisco	5	ATLANTA		
	new orleans	4	LA RAMS		
	miami		10	INDIANAPOLIS	
	DENVER		6^	pittsburgh	

Monday:
	ny giants	4	PHILADELPHIA	
31.74CollegeHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Oct 29 1991 19:2645
Thursday:
	byu		9^	COLORADO ST	
Saturday:
	pittsburgh	3	BOSTON COLLEGE	
	NO CAROLINA	8	maryland	
	cornell		5	BROWN		
	TEXAS		13^	texas tech	
	TENNESSEE	20	memphis st	
	MICHIGAN	27	purdue		
	INDIANA		18	minnesota	
	SYRACUSE	18	temple		
	CLEMSON		33	wake forest	
	MICHIGAN ST	12	northwestern	
	WEST VIRGINIA	5^	rutgers		
	vanderbilt	3^	ARMY		
	KENTUCKY	8^	cincinnati	
	dartmouth	5	HARVARD		
	PRINCETON	16^	columbia	
	YALE		13^	pennsylvania	
	OHIO ST		1^	iowa		
	georgia tech	9	DUKE		
	nc state	1	SO CAROLINA	
	EAST CAROLINA	24^	tulane		
	florida		9^	AUBURN		
	MISSISSIPPI	3^	lsu		
	OKLAHOMA	22	kansas st	
	ILLINOIS	18^	wisconsin	
	MISSOURI	12^	iowa st		
	COLORADO	2	nebraska	
	ALABAMA		11^	mississippi st	
	TULSA		5^	southern miss	
	kansas		8	OKLAHOMA ST	
	texas a&m	18	RICE		
	baylor		7^	ARKANSAS	
	TCU		20	smu		
	WASHINGTON	29	arizona st	
	UCLA		15	washington st	
	NOTRE DAME	40	navy		
	CALIFORNIA	7	southern cal	
	stanford	6	OREGON		
	florida st	34	LOUISVILLE	
	ARIZONA		18	oregon st	
	air force	21^	NEW MEXICO	
	SAN DIEGO ST	10	wyoming		
	utah		2^	HAWAII		
31.75HAVASU::HEISERunborn women have rights tooTue Oct 29 1991 20:281
    I thought Hawk was the expert on spreads!?
31.76NFL Spread ResultsHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Oct 29 1991 20:4033
Tom Pfau/POOL results against the spreads

                                    Straight Up                                   Against Spread
                           Home                    Away                    Home                    Away
                   Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog
Falcons             1  1  0     1  1  0     0  1  0     2  1  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     0  1  0     2  1  0
Bills               5  0  0     0  0  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     4  1  0     0  0  0     0  3  0     0  0  0
Bears               2  0  0     1  1  0     2  0  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     1  1  0
Bengals             0  2  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  4  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  4  0
Browns              1  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     2  2  0     1  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     3  1  0
Cowboys             1  1  0     1  1  0     2  0  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     1  0  1     2  0  0     1  1  0
Broncos             3  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     1  2  0     1  1  1     1  0  0     0  1  0     2  1  0
Lions               4  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  2  0     4  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  2  0
Packers             1  0  0     0  3  0     0  0  0     1  3  0     0  1  0     0  3  0     0  0  0     3  1  0
Oilers              4  0  0     0  0  0     2  1  0     1  0  0     4  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  2     1  0  0
Colts               0  1  0     0  3  0     0  0  0     0  4  0     0  1  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     0  4  0
Chiefs              4  1  0     1  0  0     1  1  0     0  1  0     2  3  0     1  0  0     0  2  0     0  1  0
Raiders             3  1  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     1  2  0     1  3  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     2  1  0
Rams                2  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  4  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  3  0
Dolphins            2  0  0     0  1  0     1  2  0     0  2  0     1  1  0     0  0  1     1  2  0     1  1  0
Vikings             1  1  0     1  0  0     1  1  0     1  3  0     1  1  0     1  0  0     1  1  0     1  3  0
Patriots            0  1  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  1  0     3  1  0     0  0  0     1  2  0
Saints              4  1  0     0  0  0     2  0  0     1  0  0     3  2  0     0  0  0     2  0  0     1  0  0
Jets                1  0  0     1  2  0     2  0  0     0  2  0     1  0  0     2  0  1     1  1  0     1  1  0
Giants              3  1  0     0  1  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     1  3  0     0  1  0     0  3  0     0  0  0
Eagles              1  1  0     0  2  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     0  2  0     1  1  0     1  1  0
Cardinals           1  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     2  3  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     2  3  0
Steelers            2  1  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     0  3  0     2  1  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  3  0
Chargers            0  2  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     1  5  0     0  2  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     2  4  0
49ers               3  1  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  1  0     3  1  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     1  0  0
Seahawks            3  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  3  0     3  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     4  0  1
Buccaneers          0  1  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     0  4  0     0  1  0     3  0  0     0  0  0     1  3  0
Redskins            4  0  0     0  0  0     4  0  0     0  0  0     4  0  0     0  0  0     3  0  1     0  0  0
31.77NFL Week 11HBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Nov 05 1991 09:2017
Sunday:
	NEW ORLEANS	4	san francisco	
	buffalo		7	GREEN BAY	
	HOUSTON		9^	dallas		
	CINCINNATI	1^	pittsburgh	
	WASHINGTON	12	atlanta		
	CLEVELAND	1^	philadelphia	
	detroit		3^	TAMPA BAY	
	NY JETS		13	indianapolis	
	DENVER		3	la raiders	
	kansas city	4	LA RAMS		
	ny giants	7	PHOENIX		
	seattle		2	SAN DIEGO	
	MIAMI		6^	new england	

Monday:
	MINNESOTA	3	chicago		
31.78CollegeHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Nov 05 1991 09:2746
Thursday:
	texas a&m	14	TCU		

Saturday:
	MIAMI-FL	28	west virginia	
	PITTSBURGH	9^	rutgers		
	boston college	6^	TEMPLE		
	clemson		6^	NO CAROLINA	
	yale		4^	CORNELL		
	FLORIDA		12	georgia		
	NC STATE	3	virginia	
	MICHIGAN	36	northwestern	
	illinois	7^	PURDUE		
	duke		11^	WAKE FOREST	
	princeton	7^	PENNSYLVANIA	
	harvard		6^	BROWN		
	dartmouth	14	COLUMBIA	
	penn st		25	MARYLAND	
	NOTRE DAME	6^	tennessee	
	FLORIDA ST	25	so carolina	
	IOWA		5	indiana		
	oklahoma	17^	MISSOURI	
	AUBURN		19^	sw louisiana	
	BYU		16	wyoming		
	nebraska	15^	KANSAS		
	east carolina	2^	SOUTHERN MISS	
	VANDERBILT	8	kentucky	
	UTAH		18	new mexico	
	kansas st	3	IOWA ST		
	AIR FORCE	16	army		
	WISCONSIN	0	michigan st	
	colorado	27^	OKLAHOMA ST	
	ohio st		14	MINNESOTA	
	MEMPHIS ST	9^	louisville	
	TEXAS TECH	2	arkansas	
	rice		10	SMU		
	washington	16^	SOUTHERN CAL	
	ucla		4	STANFORD	
	WASHINGTON ST	4^	arizona		
	california	32	OREGON ST	
	texas		2	HOUSTON		
	alabama		10	LSU		
	TULANE		5	navy		
	ARIZONA ST	9	oregon		
	SAN DIEGO ST	11^	colorado st	
	HAWAII		6^	texas-el paso	
31.79NBA title oddsHAVASU::HEISERunborn women have rights tooWed Nov 06 1991 20:1930
From the Las Vegas Flamingo Hilton... for those who care
(reflective odds on winning the NBA championship)

BULLS        3-1
BLAZERS      4-1
SPURS        5-1
LAKERS       5-1
PISTONS      8-1
CELTICS     10-1
SUNS        10-1
ROCKETS     12-1
JAZZ        12-1
76ERS       20-1
BUCKS       25-1
KNICKS      25-1
SONICS      30-1
PACERS      30-1
WARRIORS    35-1
HAWKS       35-1
CAVALIERS   40-1
CLIPPERS    60-1
BULLETS     75-1
MAVERICKS   75-1
NETS       150-1
KINGS      200-1
HORNETS    300-1
HEAT       300-1
WOLVES     300-1
MAGIC      400-1
NUGGETS    500-1
31.80early CollegeHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelMon Nov 11 1991 14:504
Early lines on a couple of Saturday block busters:

	FLORIDA ST	4	miami-fl	
	PENN ST		3	notre dame	
31.81NFL, Week 12HBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Nov 12 1991 09:4517
Sunday:
	KANSAS CITY	6^	denver		
	washington	7	PITTSBURGH	
	PHILADELPHIA	8^	cincinnati	
	chicago		8^	INDIANAPOLIS	
	minnesota	3	GREEN BAY	
	ATLANTA		6	tampa bay	
	ny jets		3	NEW ENGLAND	
	NY GIANTS	4	dallas		
	LA RAIDERS	4	seattle		
	SAN FRANCISCO	10^	phoenix		
	DETROIT		4	la rams		
	new orleans	4^	SAN DIEGO	
	HOUSTON		13	cleveland	

Monday:
	buffalo		4	MIAMI		
31.82CollegeHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Nov 12 1991 09:4641
Saturday:
	SYRACUSE	9	boston college	
	CLEMSON		25	maryland	
	GEORGIA TECH	26	wake forest	
	CORNELL		14^	columbia	
	TENNESSEE	17^	mississippi	
	PENN ST		3^	notre dame	
	GEORGIA		2^	auburn		
	va tech		5	EAST CAROLINA	
	PURDUE		2	michigan st	
	RUTGERS		6	temple		
	HARVARD		9	pennsylvania	
	PRINCETON	3^	yale		
	DARTMOUTH	16	brown		
	OHIO ST		4	indiana		
	nc state	6^	DUKE		
	FLORIDA		35	kentucky	
	NO CAROLINA	3^	so carolina	
	FLORIDA ST	3	miami-fl	
	michigan	10	ILLINOIS	
	OKLAHOMA	31	oklahoma st	
	BAYLOR		12	texas tech	
	TEXAS		16	tcu		
	NEBRASKA	37	iowa st		
	iowa		20^	NORTHWESTERN	
	COLORADO ST	15	new mexico	
	COLORADO	18	kansas		
	KANSAS ST	9	missouri	
	alabama		12^	MEMPHIS ST	
	TULSA		16	louisville	
	MINNESOTA	2	wisconsin	
	houston		9^	RICE		
	TEXAS A&M	23	arkansas	
	UCLA		19	oregon		
	CALIFORNIA	13^	arizona st	
	washington	43	OREGON ST	
	stanford	7	WASHINGTON ST	
	mississippi st	4	LSU		
	ARIZONA		8^	southern cal	
	byu		5	SAN DIEGO ST	
	TEXAS-EL PASO	1	utah		
31.83I didn't know Trojans were football playersHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Nov 12 1991 23:213
Sorry about that, but the correct line is:

	southern cal	8^	ARIZONA		
31.84pro week 13?CGVAX2::MILLERWed Nov 20 1991 16:255
    
    
    Does anyone have this weekend pro spreads yet?
    
    steve
31.85USCTR2::NAHEARNWed Nov 20 1991 16:356
    Yes....the Globe, Herald and USA Today all have them.
    
    
    HTH,
    
    Nelly
31.86Please enter the line....BTOVT::GREGORYJWelcome to the Grand Illusion...Thu Nov 21 1991 09:579
    Could someone please enter the line for the Pros please???

    My not-so-wonderful paper, The Burlington (VT) Free Press, doesn't seem
    to list 'em, either that or I'm looking with my eyes closed!!!

    				Thanks in Advance
    				
    				     Jim.
31.87seek and ye shall findHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelThu Nov 21 1991 10:0717
Sunday:
	CHICAGO		7^	miami		
	la raiders	6^	CINCINNATI	
	WASHINGTON	12^	dallas		
	houston		6^	PITTSBURGH	
	MINNESOTA	6	detroit		
	ny giants	9	TAMPA BAY	
	buffalo		8^	NEW ENGLAND	
	kansas city	4	CLEVELAND	
	GREEN BAY	7	indianapolis	
	SEATTLE		3	denver		
	philadelphia	6^	PHOENIX		
	NY JETS		4^	san diego	
	NEW ORLEANS	6^	atlanta		

Monday:
	san francisco	3	LA RAMS		
31.88ask and ye shall receiveHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelThu Nov 21 1991 10:0835
Saturday:
	MICHIGAN	14^	ohio st		
	NO CAROLINA	7	duke		
	VIRGINIA	9	va tech		
	miami-fl	21	BOSTON COLLEGE	
	cornell		4	PENNSYLVANIA	
	tennessee	19	KENTUCKY	
	illinois	9	MICHIGAN ST	
	SYRACUSE	10	west virginia	
	NC STATE	15^	maryland	
	INDIANA		15	purdue		
	east carolina	14	CINCINNATI	
	DARTMOUTH	3^	princeton	
	harvard		5	YALE		
	BROWN		0	columbia	
	colorado	24	IOWA ST		
	wake forest	5^	NAVY		
	clemson		10	SO CAROLINA	
	TEXAS		4	baylor		
	BYU		16^	utah		
	KANSAS		14^	missouri	
	ARKANSAS	5	rice		
	IOWA		26	minnesota	
	WISCONSIN	2	northwestern	
	MISSISSIPPI ST	7^	mississippi	
	kansas st	8	OKLAHOMA ST	
	houston		19	TCU		
	TEXAS A&M	35^	smu		
	ucla		5	SOUTHERN CAL	
	WASHINGTON	34^	washington st	
	california	1	STANFORD	
	OREGON		19	oregon st	
	lsu		11^	TULANE		
	ARIZONA ST	6	arizona		
	air force	4	HAWAII		
31.89Short weekMR1PST::CBULLS::MBROOKSMon Nov 25 1991 15:364
    do any of the papers have the spreads for this weeks nfl matchups
    yet... Ive looked at two papers, the globe and a local rag and neither
    of them had this weeks spreads yet... IF someone has them I could 
    really use them today, thanks.
31.90HPSRAD::RIEURead his lips...Know new taxes!Mon Nov 25 1991 15:483
        The spreads won't be complete until after tonights game. They need
    the result to adjust their lines.
                                   Denny
31.91NFLHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelWed Nov 27 1991 08:1618
Thursday:
	DETROIT		3	chicago		
	DALLAS		6^	pittsburgh	

Sunday:
	BUFFALO		9	ny jets		
	cleveland	5	INDIANAPOLIS	
	ATLANTA		8	green bay	
	MIAMI		8^	tampa bay	
	ny giants	7	CINCINNATI	
	SAN FRANCISCO	3	new orleans	
	SEATTLE		1^	kansas city	
	washington	9	LA RAMS		
	DENVER		7^	new england	
	la raiders	5	SAN DIEGO	

Monday:
	HOUSTON		6	philadelphia	
31.92CollegeHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelWed Nov 27 1991 08:1717
Thursday:
	penn st		14^	PITTSBURGH	
	TEXAS A&M	13	texas		

Friday:
	NEBRASKA	7	oklahoma	

Saturday:
	GEORGIA TECH	4^	georgia		
	TENNESSEE	17	vanderbilt	
	FLORIDA		2	florida st	
	alabama		6	AUBURN		(Birmingham)
	tulsa		20^	SMU		
	MIAMI-FL	27	san diego st	
	HOUSTON		6^	texas tech	
	CLEMSON		19^	duke		(Tokyo)
	notre dame	21	HAWAII		
31.93just curious...STAR::YANKOWSKASThis ain't a tennis match!Mon Dec 02 1991 13:455
    Anyone seen a line yet for Wednesday night's Seton Hall-North Carolina
    game?
    
    
    py
31.94NFLHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Dec 03 1991 13:3217
Sunday:
	NY GIANTS	3	philadelphia	
	HOUSTON		10^	pittsburgh	
	KANSAS CITY	9	san diego	
	CHICAGO		10	green bay	
	DALLAS		2	new orleans	
	CLEVELAND	0	denver		
	NEW ENGLAND	7^	indianapolis	
	LA RAIDERS	2	buffalo		
	san francisco	3^	SEATTLE		
	atlanta		6	LA RAMS		
	DETROIT		5	ny jets		
	washington	14	PHOENIX		
	minnesota	5	TAMPA BAY	

Monday:
	MIAMI		7^	cincinnati	
31.95Last College FootballHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Dec 03 1991 13:332
Saturday:
	Army		9^	Navy		
31.96BowlsHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Dec 03 1991 13:3318
California Raisin	Dec 14	Fresno St	14	Bowlgin Green	
Aloha			Dec 25	Stanford	3	Georgia Tech	
Blockbuster		Dec 28	Colorado	0	Alabama		
Independence		Dec 29	Georgia		8	Arkansas	
Gator			Dec 29	Virginia	1	Oklahoma	
Liberty			Dec 29	Mississippi St	9^	Air Force	
Holiday			Dec 30	Iowa		4	BYU		
Freedom			Dec 30	San Diego St	1	Tulsa		
John Hancock		Dec 31	UCLA		7	Illinois	
Copper			Dec 31	Baylor		3^	Indiana		
Peach			Jan 1	East Carolina	2	NC State	
Citrus			Jan 1	California	1	Clemson		
Hall of Fame		Jan 1	Syracuse	3	Ohio St		
Cotton			Jan 1	Florida St	7	Texas A&M	
Fiesta			Jan 1	Penn St		3^	Tennessee	
Rose			Jan 1	Washington	7	Michigan	
Orange			Jan 1	Miami-FL	10	Nebraska	
Sugar			Jan 1	Florida		6	Notre Dame	
31.97ACC-Big EastHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Dec 03 1991 13:373
ACC-Big East (Atlanta)
	Syracuse	3	Florida St	
	GEORGIA TECH	9	villanova		
31.98PRO 16HBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Dec 10 1991 11:2619
Saturday:
	CHICAGO		13	tampa bay	
	SAN FRANCISCO	4^	kansas city	

Sunday:
	PITTSBURGH	5^	cincinnati	
	MINNESOTA	9	la rams		
	PHILADELPHIA	3^	dallas		
	detroit		3	GREEN BAY	
	houston		3	CLEVELAND	
	ATLANTA		6	seattle		
	NY JETS		6^	new england	
	WASHINGTON	9	ny giants	
	miami		0	SAN DIEGO	
	DENVER		11^	phoenix		
	buffalo		12	INDIANAPOLIS	

Monday:
	NEW ORLEANS	2	la raiders	
31.99Week 17????CGVAX2::MILLERWed Dec 18 1991 09:496
    
    	Looking for this weekend Pro Spreads.  Anybody have them?
    
    
    steve
    
31.100NFL, week the lastHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelWed Dec 18 1991 11:4619
Saturday:
	houston		3	NY GIANTS	
	MINNESOTA	6	green bay	

Sunday:
	BUFFALO		6^	detroit		
	DALLAS		3^	atlanta		
	MIAMI		6	ny jets		
	TAMPA BAY	5^	indianapolis	
	PITTSBURGH	3	cleveland	
	new england	2	CINCINNATI	
	LA RAIDERS	3^	kansas city	
	washington	3	PHILADELPHIA	
	denver		2	SAN DIEGO	
	new orleans	2	PHOENIX		
	SEATTLE		6	la rams		

Monday:
	SAN FRANCISCO	5	chicago		
31.101Strange week..Home Field and Last AFC spot on the lineRUNAWY::CBULLS::MBROOKSThu Dec 19 1991 11:473
    I think this may be the 1st week with no Dbl Digit spread... Biggest
    spread is 6^.....
    								Air
31.102Wild CardsHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Dec 24 1991 12:347
Saturday:
	KANSAS CITY	4^	la raiders	
	HOUSTON		9	ny jets		

Sunday:
	CHICAGO		3	dallas		
	NEW ORLEANS	6	atlanta		
31.103Blue-Gray GameHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Dec 24 1991 12:352
Blue-Gray Game (Montgomery, AL)
	blue		2	GRAY		
31.104NFL Division PlayoffHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelThu Jan 02 1992 13:457
Saturday:
	WASHINGTON	11^	atlanta		
	DENVER		3^	houston		

Sunday:
	BUFFALO		10	kansas city	
	DETROIT		0	dallas		
31.105Super Bowl OddsHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelThu Jan 02 1992 13:4510
Odds against winning Super Bowl XXVI:

	Washington	 1:1
	Buffalo		 2:1
	Denver		10:1
	Houston		12:1
	Detroit		15:1
	Dallas		15:1
	Kansas City	20:1
	Atlanta		30:1
31.106BSS::JCOTANCHSee ya in August, FaidersThu Jan 02 1992 13:494
    Can't believe Luckalo's favored by 10.  What do they think, we're
    stupid?!?
    
    Joe
31.107CARROL::LEFEBVREJust a word in Mr Churchill's earThu Jan 02 1992 13:573
    Buffalo will cover.  I'd take Atlanta and the 11.
    
    Mark.
31.108HPSRAD::RIEURead his Lips...Know new taxesThu Jan 02 1992 14:134
       The Buff-KC game is a suckers bet. The bookies are hoping the big
    number will help everyone decide KC has a shot. The books will make a
    killing!
                                     Denny
31.109CNTROL::CHILDSBush Go Home! no you keep himThu Jan 02 1992 15:4710
 I don't know Denny, Word's one of the hottest backs in the league right now
 and Buffalo's achillies is stopping the run......

 Does Hammer record for Columbia? If so then the network will push Hotlanta
 and "2 Legit to Quit" over the top......

 Time for Rypien's fairy tale to end....

 
31.110RIPPLE::DEVLIN_JOSherman,Himmler,Sheridan,Goebels,CusterThu Jan 02 1992 15:535
    YOu heard it here first.
    
    Neither BUfalo nor Washington will win the Super Bowl.
    
    JD
31.111Ive stayed away from betting this year...FNATCL::CBULLS::MBROOKSFri Jan 03 1992 16:183
    There's a good bet then, after Buffalo and Washington the lowest odds
    are 10-1.  Put down a C note on the 6 other teams and your gurenteed
    to win.  If in fact neither of the above teams win.....
31.112LAGUNA::MAY_BRNeed one of those endolphin rushesMon Jan 06 1992 12:043
    
    So much for your theory, now we know why you've stayed away from
    betting.  8^)
31.113Conference spreads and oddsHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Jan 07 1992 12:0710
Sunday:
	BUFFALO		11	denver		
	WASHINGTON	13	detroit		

Odds against winning Super Bowl XXVI:

	Washington	 1:2
	Buffalo		 3:2
	Denver		12:1
	Detroit		15:1
31.114Conference Playoff numbersHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelWed Jan 08 1992 14:0413
Updated numbers for Conference Playoffs:

	BUFFALO		11	denver
	over/under	44
	odds on winning game	BUFFALO 6:1

	WASHINGTON	13	detroit
	over/under	43
	odd on winning game	WASHINGTON 7:1

	Note:	odds are *ON* winning the game; usually they're quoted
		as *AGAINST* winning the game; as these are listed, 
		you'd risk $7 to win $1 for WASHINGTON.
31.115some lines for tonightHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelThu Jan 09 1992 17:2014
Some lines:

College Hoops:
	IOWA		5	michigan	
	NO CAROLINA	15^	clemson		
	INDIANA		15	minnesota	
	ucla		7^	ARIZONA ST	
	ARIZONA		14^	southern cal	
	TEXAS		2^	houston		

NBA:
	cleveland	3	WASHINGTON	
	CHARLOTTE	2	sacramento	
	ATLANTA		8	dallas		
31.116odds on SB XXVI matchupsHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelFri Jan 10 1992 18:036
Odds against meeting in Super Bowl XXVI:

		Buffalo-Washington	   1:5
		Denver-Washington	   5:1
		Buffalo-Detroit		   7:1
		Denver-Detroit		1000:1
31.117early SuperBowlHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelMon Jan 13 1992 21:064
SuperSunday:
	Washington	6	Buffalo		
	over/under	50
	Odds *ON* winning game	Washington 2:1
31.118Must be looking for a Skins blow out of the BillsQUASER::HUNTERSteelers To The Super Bowl In `93Tue Jan 14 1992 13:003
    Can't beleive the over/under...  50 is a bit high I think.  
    
    Big Game Junta
31.119CELTIK::JACOBIntrospective...Make a StatementTue Jan 14 1992 17:457
    Nah, Redskins 45, Bills 10 adds up to 55, so it's on line.  Hell, if
    the Donks were there, the over/under would be at 65 or 70.
    
    Woulda been something like Wash. 62, Donks 7.
    
    JaKe
    
31.120COMET::JACKSONTAThe 9 hitterTue Jan 14 1992 19:381
      give it a rest jake!  Go sniff some of that "clean" pitt air.
31.121QUASER::HUNTERSteelers To The Super Bowl In `93Tue Jan 14 1992 19:418
    FaKe,
    
    If you're prediction a 45 - 10 win for the Skins,  Give me 35 on
    the P-Name bet in the bowl you falming little wimpy girly mon.
    Go Drink some "Clean" Pitt juice and get yer head on straight,
    loser !!   ;^)
    
    Big Game Junta
31.122Superbowl Line NewsSWAM1::POLAY_CHWarmer in CA than MA!Wed Jan 15 1992 18:46104
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	STATELINE, Nev. (UPI) -- Under the snow-capped peaks of the Sierra
Nevada, there is a warm crackle of excitement inside the gaming palaces
along Lake Tahoe's South Shore.
	The matchup has been made for the Super Bowl -- the Washington
Redskins will play the Buffalo Bills for the NFL championship. But this
is more than a mere football game, it's an industry within itself.
	Major corporations will spend $850,000 for a mere 30 seconds of
commercial time during the game's broadcast Jan. 26, visitors to
Minneapolis will spend millions and across the nation close to $2
billion will be wagered on the outcome.
	In Nevada, the only state in which sports wagering is legal, the game
has taken on the form of a golden holiday. Parties and special events
abound from Stateline to Las Vegas and many stops inbetween.
	``By far this is the biggest event for us each year,'' said Gene
Kivi, the oddsmaker at Caesars Lake Tahoe Resort. ``The excitement, the
handle (money wagered), the interest is unmatched by any other event.''
	Kivi estimates his sports book alone will handle between $700,000 and
$1 million in wagers on the game. Across the state, the more than 60
sports books will likely handle $600 million in bets, with some
estimating the total will nudge $1 billion.
	``Last year, the NFL experimented with having just one week between
the league championship games and the Super Bowl,'' Kivi said. ``The
seven fewer days to wager did have an impact on our handle. This year,
we have two weeks so we're fairly confident, even with a recession, our
totals will be near where they have been in years past.''
	As Kivi talks he keeps an eye on the computer monitor on his office
desk. The figures blink, marking each bet. As the numbers rise, the
oddsmaker waits in anticipation of the moment the odds on the game
should change.
	With the final seconds of the NFC championship ticking down, Kivi had
posted Washington a 6 1/2-point favorite and placed the over-under (over
and under the total points scored in the game) at 51 1/2.
	Within 20 minutes, $3,924 had been wagered on Washington while just
$310 had been bet on the Bills, who struggled in the AFC championship
game.
	``That's a normal pattern for here, we generally have a lot of
favorite bettors so we have to watch our line very closely,'' Kivi said.
``In Vegas, the bettors tend to be more scientific and look to get some
value out of their wagers. We'll hang with this line until we take $10,
000 in bets.''
	Four hours later, the magic $10,000 mark had been passed and the odds
went to Washington by 7 and the over-under had dropped to 50 points.
	Caesars, like all the other sports books in Nevada, also will post 
``proposition'' bets: coin toss, number of interceptions, most passes
thrown (Mark Rypien or Jim Kelly).
	In all, about 30 propositions are usually available to bettors before
the game and a second set is offered at halftime.
	``This game attracts the casual bettors, who generally don't come
into the sports book, so you want to make it exciting for them,'' Kivi
said. ``The propositions have really become a part of this game.''
	Away from Nevada, the Super Bowl will entice more Americans to break
the law than any other event during the year. From the office pools to
the illegal bookies at the corner bar to the wagers among friends, the
Super Bowl generates more than $1 billion in illegal bets annually.
	Generally, law enforcement looks the other way, but this year the FBI
and the U.S. Customs Service used the annual betting frenzy to quietly
pull off one of the nation's largest illegal bookmaking busts.
	On Jan. 9, FBI and Customs agents raided banks, restaurants and homes
in the San Francisco Bay Area. The sweep came after authorities in the
Dominican Republic arrested 23 Americans at three offices within the
country who were using 1-800 phone lines to take bets from the United
States.
	``We estimate this operation took in $100 million a month,'' said
Barbara Madden, an FBI spokeswoman in San Francisco. ``It was a very
old, well established operation.''
	``This was a big-time ring,'' Kivi said. ``Usually, they make a few
minor busts around the Super Bowl, but this really will have a major
impact on illegal gambling, not only out here but on the East Coast
also.''
	Madden said the FBI used the increased illegal activity surrounding
the NFL playoffs to its advantage.
	``This time of year is well known for an increase in illegal gambling
activities,'' she said.
	The Super Bowl also presents particular trouble for compulsive
gamblers, who find the frenzy surrounding the game too much to handle.
	``Super Bowl Sunday is to the compulsive gambler what New Year's Eve
is to the alcoholic,'' said Arnold Wexler, executive director of the
Council on Compulsive Gambling for New Jersey. ``It's an extremely
dangerous time.''
	Wexler has spent years working to undo the damage gamblers have done
to themselves and their families. His stories ring of lost souls and
lost battles.
	``The Super Bowl is the 'get out' bet for many addicted gamblers,''
Wexler said. ``It's the bet that, they think, is going to get them out
of debt and help them start a new life. That's just not the case.''
31.123super bowl lines, odds, etc.HBAHBA::HAASMental ModelMon Jan 20 1992 12:3768
31.124Pretty Silly !!!!QUASER::HUNTERSteelers need a coach and 5 yrsMon Jan 20 1992 14:425
    Man...  I guy (or gal) could bet on anything.  I wonder if they 
    have a line on when my Husky is gonna take it's next dump in the back
    yard.  Not to far fetched if you ask me...  ;^)
    
    BG
31.125latest Super linesHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelThu Jan 23 1992 19:335
latest lines:

	Washington	7	Buffalo
	over/under	48
	odds on winning game	Washington 12:5
31.126Super Bowl CardHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelThu Jan 23 1992 20:5732
A SuperBowl card:

 1. Washington				 2. Buffalo		+7
 3. Over		45		 4. Under		43

 5. Wash. Scores First			 6. Buff. Scores First
 7. Wash. Scores Last			 8. Buff. Scores Last
 9. Most TD Passes - Rypien		10. Most TD Passes - Kelly
11. Most Yards Passing - Rypien		12. Most Yards Passing - Kelly
13. Most Completed Passes - Rypien	14. Most Completed Passes - Kelly
15. Longest TD Pass - Rypien		16. Longest TD Pass - Kelly
17. Most QB Sacks Made By Wash.		18. Most QB Sacks Made By Buff.
19. Longest Field Goal Made By Wash.	20. Longest Field Goal Made by Buff.
21. Wash. Makes First Field Goal	22. Buff. Makes First Field Goal
23. Most Interceptions Made By Wash.	24. Most Interceptions Made By Buff.
25. Wash. Scores Last in 1st Half	26. Buff. Scores Last in 1st Half
27. Wash. Has Most Made Field Goals	28. Buff. Has Most Made Field Goals
29. Most Rushing Yards - Wash.		30. Most Rushing Yards - Buff.
31. Most Rushing Yards - Byner		32. Most Rushing Yards - Thomas
33. First Score Is A Touchdown		34. First Score Is A Field Goal

35. Washington		-2		36. Buffalo		-2
37. Over		11		38. Under		9

39. Washington		-2		40. Buffalo		-2
41. Over		15		42. Under		13

43. Washington		-2		44. Buffalo		-2
45. Over		11		46. Under		9

47. Washington		-2		48. Buffalo		-2
49. Over		15		50. Under		13
31.127Card WinnersHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelMon Jan 27 1992 17:3066
SuperBowl card winner:

 1. Washington				
 3. Over		45		
		Final score:	Washington 37, Buffalo 24

 5. Wash. Scores First			
		Field Goal in 2nd quarter

					 8. Buff. Scores Last
		Touchdown in 4th quarter

	(9 and 10 - most TD passses - lost)
		2 TDs each by Kelly, Rypien

11. Most Yards Passing - Rypien		
		292 yards (240 for Kelly)

					14. Most Completed Passes - Kelly
		29 completions (18 for Rypien)

15. Longest TD Pass - Rypien		
		30 yard TD, to Clark

17. Most QB Sacks Made By Wash.		
		5 (0 by Buffalo)

19. Longest Field Goal Made By Wash.	
		39, in 4th quarter

21. Wash. Makes First Field Goal	
		2nd quarter

23. Most Interceptions Made By Wash.	
		4 (1 by Buffalo)

25. Wash. Scores Last in 1st Half	
		TD run in 2nd quarter

27. Wash. Has Most Made Field Goals	
		3 (1 by Buffalo)

29. Most Rushing Yards - Wash.		
		125 (43 by Buffalo)

31. Most Rushing Yards - Byner		
		49 (13 by Thomas)

					34. First Score Is A Field Goal
		2nd quarter, by Washington

	(35 and 36 - -2/-2 - both lost)
					38. Under		9
		Washington 0, Buffalo 0 - 1st quarter

39. Washington		-2		
41. Over		15		
		Washington 17, Buffalo 0 - 2nd quarter

43. Washington		-2		
45. Over		11		
		Washington 14, Buffalo 10 - 3rd quarter

					48. Buffalo		-2
49. Over		15		
		Washington 6, Buffalo 14 - 4th quarter
31.12849ers, Skins favored nexted yearHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Jan 28 1992 14:0530
Odds against winning Super Bowl XXVII (nexted year):

	San Francisco	5:1
	Washington	5:1
	Philadelphia	7:1
	Buffalo		8:1
	Houston		10:1
	Dallas		15:1
	Denver		20:1
	Detroit		25:1
	Chicago		25:1
	New Orleans	30:1
	LA Raiders	40:1
	Kansas City	40:1
	NY Giants	50:1
	NY Jets		100:1
	Atlanta		125:1
	Miami		150:1
	Pittsburgh	500:1
	Cleveland	1,000:1
	Seattle		2,000:1
	San Diego	2,500:1
	Minnesota	5,000:1
	Cincinnati	7,500:1
	LA Rams		10,000:1
	New England	25,000:1
	Green Bay	25,000:1
	Tampa Bay	50,000:1
	Phoenix		100,000:1
	Indianapolis	10,000,000:1
31.129CELTIK::JACOBUshering in a new era...Wed Jan 29 1992 00:554
    Anybody wanna go half'ers on a $1 bet on Indy?????
    
    JaKe
    
31.130CAMONE::WAYCuimhnich, 13 February 1692Wed Jan 29 1992 10:587
>    Anybody wanna go half'ers on a $1 bet on Indy?????
>    
>    JaKe


Strictly for amusement purposes, though, right Jake?  8^)    

31.131I'll risk a buck on the Patsies...AXIS::ROBICHAUDPlato,Homer,Voltaire,BobKnightWed Jan 29 1992 13:391
    
31.132$10 on the Oilers ...LUNER::BROOKSDickButkus,BobGriese,BobKnight?Wed Jan 29 1992 16:231
    
31.133CELTIK::JACOBUshering in a new era...Wed Jan 29 1992 20:5410
    
>>Strictly for amusement purposes, though, right Jake?  8^)    
    
  Yeah, 'Saw, that's right.
    
    BTW, "Strictly for amusement purposes" is precisely what the wife said
    on the wedding night, too.
    
    JaKe
    
31.134NBA All-StarHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelWed Feb 05 1992 17:124
NBA All-Star Game, Sunday, at Orlando:

	West		1	East		
	over/under:	269
31.135some NBAHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Feb 25 1992 15:317
31.136MCIS1::DHAMELForgot to cut my imbecilical cordThu Feb 27 1992 16:196
    
    Anybody know the latest Vegas line on which Elvis stamp will win the
    popular vote????
    
    Dickstah
    
31.137CELTIK::JACOBI Can't Dance, I Can't Talk!!Thu Feb 27 1992 19:1510
    
    >>Anybody know the latest Vegas line on which Elvis stamp will win the
    >>popular vote????
    
    Heard somewhere they WERE going to market a "life size" Elvis stamp in
    extremely limited edition, but any envelope that it would have fit on
    would have been large enuf to mail a tractor-trailer in.
    
    JaKe
    
31.138SCHOOL::RIEUSupport DCU Petition CandidatesThu Feb 27 1992 19:312
       I vote for the 'young' Elvis!!
                                           Denny
31.139JENEVR::FRANCUSMets in '92Thu Feb 27 1992 20:246
    I vote for no Elvis. The drug thing does not matter to me, just tired
    of hearing all this Elvis stuff alll the time. heck I didn;t really
    like his music when he was alive.
    
    The Crazy Met
    
31.140Many (8^)*CELTIK::JACOBI Can't Dance, I Can't Talk!!Thu Feb 27 1992 22:117
    re -.1
    
    Boy, you sound real sure he's dead!!  Guess you don't read the"Weekly
    World News"!!
    
    JaKe
    
31.141PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollFri Feb 28 1992 14:585
31.1427389::FARLEYSon,you can make hundreds o'dollars...Fri Feb 28 1992 15:1413
    MtM,
    Sorta like the Post Office proving that the guy in "Miracle on 34th
    Street" REALLY is Santa Clause huh?
    
    If you've never seen the movie, I can give ya a copy of it since I
    understand it's rarely shown on tee vee.
    
    ;^)
    
    I remain,
    Siskel - Ebert,
    Kev
    
31.143AXIS::CHAPPELFor DUTY and HUMANITYFri Feb 28 1992 15:483
I vote for the Velvet Elvis.  

Chap
31.144MCIS1::DHAMELForgot to cut my imbecilical cordFri Feb 28 1992 16:123
    
    I vote for Elvis the nuded-up rugby player and his cat, Toonces.
    
31.145exitFNATCL::CBULLS::MBROOKSFri Feb 28 1992 17:484
    Id vote for JOhn Belushi on a stamp before elvis, just think, both
    fat, talanted drug users... They both deserve a stamp.... Maybe we
    could start putting out mass murderer stamps as well...
    								Mike
31.146sighCTHQ1::LEARYBeano:PreventGasBeforeItStartsFri Feb 28 1992 18:051
    
31.147or Great headlines from the Weekly World News?DECWET::METZGERNot long until March Madness....Fri Feb 28 1992 20:177
How about a stamp of Elvis shooting his TV?

Or a whole series entitled "Great Psychotic Postal Workers?"

Bad taste...I know,

Metz
31.148some tourneysHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelFri Mar 13 1992 13:0138
31.149NCAA tournament line for the first round.WLDWST::RCARRUTHERSGoing,going..we're almost gone!Wed Mar 18 1992 15:3761
                              Current line

          East : Thursday                            East : Friday
       Greensboro Coliseum, NC                     The Centrum, Mass

     +32   #1  Duke                            +4     #6  Syracuse    
           #16 Campbell                               #11 Princeton

           #8  Texas                           +14    #3  UMass       
     +2    #9  Iowa                                   #14 Fordham

     +6    #5  Missouri                               #7  UNC-Charlotte
           #12 West Virginia                   +1     #10 Iowa State

     +6    #4  Seton Hall                      +18    #2  Kentucky
           #13 La Salle                               #15 Old Dominion

          West : Friday                              West : Thursday
   University Activity Center, AZ              University Pavilion, Idaho
           
     +20   #1  UCLA                            +5.5   #6  Georgetown
           #16 Robert Morris                          #11 South Florida

           #8  Louisville                      +6.5   #3  Florida State
     +2    #9  Wake Forest                            #14 Montana

     +3.5  #5  De Paul                         +6     #7  LSU
           #12 New Mexico St.                         #10 BYU

     +11   #4  Oklahoma                        +24    #2  Indiana
           #13 SW Louisiana                           #15 Eastern Illinois

          S. East : Thursday                         S. East : Friday
      Riverfront Coliseum,  Ohio                    The Omni,  Georgia

     +26   #1  Ohio State                      +5     #6  Michigan
           #16 Mississippi Valley St.                 #11 Temple

           #8  Nebraska                        +11    #3  Arizona
     +3    #9  Connecticut                            #14 East Tennessee St.
 
     +1.5  #5  Alabama                         +4     #7  St. Johns
           #12 Stanford                               #10 Tulane
  
     +7.5  #4  North Carolina                  +13    #2  Oklahoma St.
           #13 Miami (Ohio)                           #15 Georgia Southern

          M. West : Friday                           M. West : Thursday
   University of Dayton Arena, Oh                   Bradley Center,  Wis.

     +32   #1  Kansas                          +2     #6  Memphis St.
           #16 Howard                                 #11 Pepperdine
 
     +1.5  #8  Evansville                      +16    #3  Arkansas
           #9  UTEP                                   #14 Murray St.

     +7    #5  Michigan St.                    +2     #7  Georgia Tech
           #12 SW Missouri St.                        #10 Houston

     +16   #4  Cincinnati                      +11    #2  USC
           #13 Delaware                               #15 NE Louisiana
31.150regional, thursdayHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelMon Mar 23 1992 13:5713
31.151NIT, monday and tuesdayHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelMon Mar 23 1992 13:5712
31.152NCAA Regionals, round the firstedHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Mar 24 1992 18:4819
31.153NITHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelWed Mar 25 1992 16:144
31.154I don't get it. I just don't get it.CSOA1::SIMPSON_TIn search of mythical kingsThu Mar 26 1992 01:3515
	Okay, I've had enough.  We've now got the utterly ridiculous
spectacle of the number 2 seed in the West regional being a 10-point 
favorite over the 3 seed, while the 1 seed is only a ****9 POINT FAVORITE****
over the 12 seed.

	The only explanation is the "Knight factor".  But don't these people
understand the simple fact that HE ALSO COACHED THEM DURING THE REGULAR
SEASON.  It's not like Dale Brown was on the Indiana bench in a red sweater
with the Hoosiers when they gave away the conference championship and the 1 
seed at Purdue.

	Drives me crazy.

tom
31.155Home court means a lot nowESKIMO::GARRYboston red sox in 92Thu Mar 26 1992 02:039
    re -1
    
    That spread is acceptable considering that the 2 vs 3 seed are on a 
    neutral floor,also don't forget that the 1 seed UCLA is playing at
    the #12 seeds home court New Mexico St,while UCLA is the better team
    they will be lucky to win this game as NM St has a remarkable home 
    record.......
    
    Tom
31.156Given 10 points, I'd lay a buck on FSU.RHETT::KNORRGraphics Workstation SupportThu Mar 26 1992 12:248
    tom,
    
    Part of it's gotta be FSU playing without Charlie Ward.  With him I'd
    give the 'Noles a great chance.  Without him it'll be a tough, but not
    impossible, challenge.
    
    
    - ACC Chris
31.157The PittMCIS2::CLAYBROOKThu Mar 26 1992 12:387
    Aren't the games being played at the pitt on the campus of the Lobos
    of New Mexico? If so it' same state not their home court, but Tom is
    right about UCLA having a hard time, because New Mexico ST fans will
    be there in large numbers, just like the UMass game last weekend.
    
    
    							Dan
31.158A 10-point win would be nice, but...CSOA1::SIMPSON_TIn search of mythical kingsThu Mar 26 1992 12:5611
	No Charlie Ward would hurt FSU for sure, although I still haven't
heard anyone say he's definitely out.  Has that been announced?  It may not
hurt that much, though.  The Hoosiers can match up with anybody at the guard
position, no matter how many guards they put on the floor.

	The game looks like a toss-up to me.  I think the key may be whether
FSU's front-line players are willing/able to pass the ball to the open man
when the defensive help comes.

tom
31.159not yetMCIS2::CLAYBROOKThu Mar 26 1992 13:234
    I heard on Sports Center last night that a decision on Charlie Ward
    will be made right before game time.
    
                                               Dan
31.160ROYALT::ASHEWho can turn the world on w/ her smile?Thu Mar 26 1992 13:382
    Right, it's not on NM St's home floor, but it is only 45 miles or so
    away...
31.161Could give 'em an emotional lift ...RHETT::KNORRGraphics Workstation SupportThu Mar 26 1992 13:415
    USA Today reported that Ward was out.  Could be Kennedy's sand-baggin'
    though ...
    
    
    - ACC Chris
31.162NITHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelThu Mar 26 1992 14:046
31.163CTHQ2::LEARYBobHunt,David Copperfield of ::SPORTSThu Mar 26 1992 14:125
    Anyone know when the NIT semis and finals are scheduled?
    
    Thanks,
    Mike
    
31.164NIT scheduleHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelThu Mar 26 1992 14:155
NIT semis on Monday, 7pm and 9+pm. (See NCAA how it can work)

Finals, Wednesday at 9pm.

TTom
31.165Danke,TTomCTHQ2::LEARYBobHunt,David Copperfield of ::SPORTSThu Mar 26 1992 17:051
    
31.166We hate the Aggies but.......ELMAGO::BENBACAStardust, Thats what you are!Fri Mar 27 1992 03:1714
    The Pit is not NMSU'S home floor. Their home floor is more than 200
    miles from here  (Albuquerque) in Las Cruces NM.  UTEP on the other 
    hand is approximately 45 miles from Las Cruces NM. There are two New
    Mexico basketball teams, University of New Mexico(Lobos), and New 
    Mexico State University(Aggies).

    But you are correct in saying that the Aggies will have a home court
    advantage as their rabid fans will descend upon Albuquerque and fill the
    Pit. Realistically, they shouldn't win this game but you never know.
    Unfortunately, I'm stuck here at work (in Albuquerque) and am not able to
    attend tonights games at the pit...what a drag!  )^:

    Ben 

31.167PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollFri Mar 27 1992 13:152
    Just to help keep things tidy, please use this topic to post the line
    info and use topic 9 to discuss the college hoops stuff.
31.168der lineHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Mar 31 1992 15:077
31.169ROYALT::ASHEEasy come easy go, will you let me go?Tue Mar 31 1992 17:418
    From USA Today special section, March 16.... odds of winning the NCAA's
    Duke: 4:1
    Indy: 6:1
    Michigan 45:1
    Cincy 50:1
    
    Someone could make some bucks...
    
31.170Danny Sheridan on 'shrooms again...NAC::G_WAUGAMANTue Mar 31 1992 18:0819
    
    > From USA Today special section, March 16.... odds of winning the NCAA's
    > Duke: 4:1
    > Indy: 6:1
    > Michigan 45:1
    > Cincy 50:1
    > 
    > Someone could make some bucks...
    
    You're not kidding!  $10 on each team and you come out ahead no matter
    what (the odds added together come out to less than 50%-- are they
    missing a fifth category for "other"?)... these are probably just Danny 
    Sheridan's usual for-dreaming-only odds, totally-screwed up odds...
    Michigan *and* Cincinnati both at greater than 45:1 when one of them
    will have a one-game shot at winning it all?  I like Michigan at 45:1,
    definitely...
    
    glenn
     
31.171ROYALT::ASHEEasy come easy go, will you let me go?Tue Mar 31 1992 18:253
    No, this was from before the start of the tournament, not for this
    week...
    
31.172Oops... gotcha, Walt...NAC::G_WAUGAMANTue Mar 31 1992 18:531
    
31.173NIT HBAHBA::HAASMental ModelWed Apr 01 1992 17:123
NIT Final (9 pm, Madison Square Gardens):

	Virginia	3	Notre Dame
31.174NBAHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelThu Apr 02 1992 18:108
31.175Strange spreadSCNDRL::HUNTHe-Man Tar Heel Haters ClubThu Apr 02 1992 18:136
31.176may beHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelThu Apr 02 1992 18:157
I think this reflects Charlotte's success, albeit relative, at home and
the fact that the Knicks can be had, even if Ewing is playing well.

Personally, I'll be surprised if this is anything more than a pick at
game time.

TTom
31.177Final 4 oddsHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelThu Apr 02 1992 20:516
latest odds on Final Four:

	Duke		1:3
	Indiana		5:2
	Michigan	3:1
	Cincinnati	5:1
31.178FinalsHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelMon Apr 06 1992 13:084
	Duke		6	Michigan
	over/under	159
	odds to win game:	Duke 3:1
31.179NBAHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelThu Apr 09 1992 17:489
31.180must have this lineHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelFri Apr 10 1992 13:245
The big line for the weekend...

	George Foreman 6:1 over Alex Stewart.

TTom
31.181NBAHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelFri Apr 10 1992 16:108
31.182NBAHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelMon Apr 13 1992 15:235
31.183NBAHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Apr 14 1992 16:1211
31.184NBAHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelThu Apr 16 1992 16:126
31.185NBAHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelFri Apr 17 1992 17:008
31.186Early NBAHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelTue Apr 21 1992 17:1210
31.187playoff oddsHBAHBA::HAASMental ModelFri Apr 24 1992 16:0929
Some odds on the NBA playoffs:

        Chicago             1:2
        Portland            3:1
        Cleveland           6:1
        Utah                7:1
        Golden State       10:1
        Phoenix            12:1
        Boston             15:1
        New York           20:1
        Seattle            25:1
        Detroit            35:1
        San Antonio        50:1
        LA Clippers        75:1
        Indiana           100:1
        New Jersey        500:1
        LA Lakers        1000:1
        Miami           10000:1

Series Odds
        Cleveland         8:1 over      New Jersey
        Boston            4:1 over      Indiana
        Golden State      5:2 over      Seattle
        Portland         12:1 over      LA Lakers
        New York          7:5 over      Detroit
        Chicago         100:1 over      Miami
        Phoenix          10:1 over      San Antonio

Odds against Chicago winning every game:  50:1
31.188NBA playoffsHBAHBA::HAASFuture Man and the SynthAxe DrumitarThu Apr 30 1992 12:153
31.189NBAHBAHBA::HAASFuture Man and the SynthAxe DrumitarMon May 04 1992 16:422
31.190NBAHBAHBA::HAASFuture Man and the SynthAxe DrumitarTue May 05 1992 16:165
Tonight's lines:

	CHICAGO		12	new york
	PORTLAND	8	phoenix

31.191nbaHBAHBA::HAASFuture Man and the SynthAxe DrumitarWed May 06 1992 16:445
31.192ROCK::GRONOWSKIthe dream is always the same...Wed May 06 1992 16:524
    
    
    Surprising that Cleveland is still favored with 2 home and 3 road
    games left and the series tied at 1-1.
31.193predicts betting not resultsHBAHBA::HAASFuture Man and the SynthAxe DrumitarWed May 06 1992 17:0413
Some of the odds on the sereis have been a little shaky but remember when
it comes to odds and spreads, the only thing they're trying to do is to
get the betting even on both sides of the actions.

Spreads and odds are attempts to judge the betting public's inclinations
and not any prediction of who will actual win the game, series or
whatever.

I agree with being a little suprised that Cleveland is still favored.
Maybe everyone's expecting Bird to come back and ruin the team chemistry
or something like that.

TTom
31.194CNTROL::CHILDSCities crumble, George does nothingWed May 06 1992 17:086
 Well the teams are pretty evenly matched both starters and bench players. 
 If Cleveland has a winning road record (I suspect they do), and given they
 won more games during the year, I can see why they'd still be the favorites.

 Also Boston's home record isn't one of invincibilty.....
31.195DECWET::METZGERWe'll always have Paris.Wed May 06 1992 20:286
I'm pretty surprised how favored the Jazz are. If I was a betting man I'd put 
some money down on the Sonics at those odds.....


Metz
31.196nbaHBAHBA::HAASFuture Man and the SynthAxe DrumitarThu May 07 1992 16:3713
31.197friday nite at the en-bee-heyHBAHBA::HAASFuture Man and the SynthAxe DrumitarFri May 08 1992 14:546
31.198NBAHBAHBA::HAASFuture Man and the SynthAxe DrumitarWed May 13 1992 17:145
31.199nbaHBAHBA::HAASWTOE RadioThu May 14 1992 14:314
31.200PreaknessHBAHBA::HAASWTOE RadioFri May 15 1992 14:0316
Preakness Odds:

        Lil E. Tee               7-2
        Alydeed                  9-2
        Dance Floor              6-1
        Casual Lies              6-1
        Pine Bluff               6-1
        Technology               8-1
        Speakerphone            12-1
        Conte Di Savoya         12-1
        Agincourt               15-1
        Big Sur                 20-1
        My Luck Runs North      30-1
        Dash For Dotty          30-1
        Careful Gesture         30-1
        Fortune's Gone          50-1
31.201NBAHBAHBA::HAASWTOE RadioFri May 15 1992 14:042
31.202NBA conferencesHBAHBA::HAASWTOE RadioTue May 19 1992 13:319
Todays games:

	PORTLAND	8	utah
	over/under:	211
	series odds:	Portland 6:1

	CHICAGO		6	cleveland
	over/under:	209
	series odds:	Chicago 7:1
31.203NBAHBAHBA::HAASWTOE RadioWed May 27 1992 16:462
	CHICAGO		9	cleveland
	over/under:	199
31.204NBAHBAHBA::HAASWTOE RadioFri May 29 1992 13:312
31.205NBA Finals, game 1HBAHBA::HAASWTOE RadioWed Jun 03 1992 13:424
31.206I'll bet on that.HOTWTR::JOYNER_GLDid I do that?Wed Jun 03 1992 19:103
    Boy I better put some money on Portland!
    
    Glen.
31.207MCIS2::DHAMELUSA Channel Surfing TeamWed Jun 03 1992 19:493
    
    What's the over/under on a typical soccer game, one?  Two?
    
31.208FRETZ::HEISERhave you tormented the Devil today?Wed Jun 03 1992 20:091
    They tie in soccer so nobody cares.
31.209NBA Finals, Game 2HBAHBA::HAASWTOE RadioFri Jun 05 1992 13:314
31.210BelmontHBAHBA::HAASWTOE RadioFri Jun 05 1992 13:3614
	PP	Horse		Odds
	 1	A.P. Indy	 6-5
	 2	Casual Lies	 6-1
	 3	Pine Bluff	 2-1
	 4	Al Sabin	20-1
	 5	Jacksonport	50-1
	 6	Crisofori	15-1 (*)
	 7	Agincourt	20-1
	 8	Robert's Hero	20-1
	 9	My Memoirs	15-1 (*)
	10	Montreal Marty	30-1
	11	Colony Light	12-1

	(*) coupled in the betting
31.211NBA FInals, Game 4HBAHBA::HAASWTOE RadioTue Jun 09 1992 17:117
	PORTLAND	3	chicago
	over/under:	205
	game 4 odds:	Portland 3:2

	series odds:	Chicago 4:1

	over/under on Michael Jordan:	34
31.212CNTROL::CHILDSIf I were A....I'dTue Jun 09 1992 17:412
 Hard to believe Portland's the favorite. 
31.213Although its not over untill the fat man singsPOPE::CBULLS::MBROOKSTue Jun 09 1992 18:207
    Take Portland, the over and the over for jordan.  The Blazers are
    bound to win at least 1 at home, this should be the one.  Bulls will
    then take games 5 and 6 (just like last series) and start celebrating.
    
    The rest of the team other then Hanson can start fitting a second
    finger.
    								M.a.B
31.214possible helpHBAHBA::HAASWTOE RadioWed Jun 10 1992 17:458
For anyone having trouble with gambling, there's a hot line.

			1-800-GAMBLER

Supposedly they get thousands of calls a month. I doubt if they quote
lines but maybe they can help, if'n you need it.

TTom
31.215SASE::SZABOA Day In The Life.Wed Jun 10 1992 18:088
    And there's
    
    			1-800-SPRLING
    
    for us follicly-challenged mainses...
    
    Hawk
    
31.216Holyfield-Holmes fightHBAHBA::HAASWTOE RadioFri Jun 19 1992 12:1011
31.217All-StarsHBAHBA::HAASHead down FrogmanMon Jul 13 1992 17:476
31.218preseason NFLHBAHBA::HAASHead down FrogmanMon Aug 03 1992 16:282
	SAN FRANCISCO	7	denver
31.219college football, correct datesHBAHBA::HAASHead down FrogmanMon Aug 03 1992 16:3710
31.220NFL preseasonHBAHBA::HAASHead down FrogmanWed Aug 05 1992 15:0623
31.221Mens Basketball Gold Medal GameHBAHBA::HAASHead down FrogmanFri Aug 07 1992 16:574
Gold Medal Game:

	USA		42	Croatia
	over/under:	186
31.222NFL PreseasonHBAHBA::HAASHead down FrogmanTue Aug 11 1992 16:3021
31.223SCHOOL::RIEURead his lips...Know new taxesTue Aug 11 1992 16:323
       Hey TTom, you musta made a mistake there. You have the Pats favored
    in a football game!
                               Denny
31.224odds are...HBAHBA::HAASHead down FrogmanTue Aug 11 1992 18:213
I think Danny Sheridan musta had a stroke.

TTom
31.225FSOA::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 297-2623Tue Aug 11 1992 18:273
    Anyone who bets on preseason football is nuts anyway.
    
    John
31.226PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollTue Aug 11 1992 18:332
    It's preseason, the Pats are at home, San Diego's starting QB is out
    for the season, and what John said.
31.227CGVAX2::MILLERThu Aug 20 1992 16:177
    
    	Anybody have the NFL lines for this weekend's preseason
    games?
    
    
    
    s
31.228From Cafein::Pool_92SCHOOL::RIEURead his lips...Know new taxesThu Aug 20 1992 16:2216
Schedule for week 4 - 14 games

 1 SAN DIEGO CHARGERS    3.0 San Francisco 49ers  Fri Aug 21 20:02 
 2 NEW ORLEANS SAINTS    3.0 Houston Oilers       Sat Aug 22 12:33 
 3 Washington Redskins   2.5 LOS ANGELES RAIDERS  Sat Aug 22 16:02 
 4 DETROIT LIONS         8.0 New England Patriots Sat Aug 22 19:03 
 5 CINCINNATI BENGALS    5.5 Indianapolis Colts   Sat Aug 22 19:33 
 6 New York Giants       2.5 NEW YORK JETS        Sat Aug 22 20:02 
 7 MIAMI DOLPHINS        6.5 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Sat Aug 22 20:03 
 8 DALLAS COWBOYS        3.5 Denver Broncos       Sat Aug 22 21:02 
 9 LOS ANGELES RAMS      3.5 Green Bay Packers    Sat Aug 22 21:02 
10 SEATTLE SEAHAWKS      3.0 Phoenix Cardinals    Sat Aug 22 22:03 
11 ATLANTA FALCONS       3.0 Philadelphia Eagles  Sun Aug 23 13:33 
12 CHICAGO BEARS         6.0 Pittsburgh Steelers  Sun Aug 23 20:02 
13 CLEVELAND BROWNS      2.5 Minnesota Vikings    Mon Aug 24 18:03 
14 KANSAS CITY CHIEFS    3.0 Buffalo Bills        Mon Aug 24 20:03 
31.229reall college footballHBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleWed Aug 26 1992 15:483
31.230preseason NFLHBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleWed Aug 26 1992 15:4919
31.231Heisman OddsHBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleThu Aug 27 1992 13:4823
Odds against winning the Heisman:
        David Palmer, Alabama            5:1
        Rick Mirer, Notre Dame           5:1
        Elvis Grbac, Michigan            6:1
        Gino Torretta, Miami             6:1
        Jerome Bettis, Notre Dame        7:1
        Marshall Faulk, San Diego St     8:1
        Kenyon Rasheed, Oklahoma        10:1
        Russell White, California       12:1
        Glyn Milburn, Stanford          12:1
        Greg Hill, Texas A&M            15:1
        Sean Jackson, Florida St        20:1
        Kevin Williams, UCLA            20:1
        Eric Zeier, Georgia             25:1
        Shane Matthews, Florida         25:1
        Kevin Williams, Miami           30:1
        Trevor Cobb, Rice               35:1
        Qadry Ismail, Syracuse          35:1
        Derek Brown, Nebraska           40:1
        Garrison Hearst, Georgia        45:1
        Terry Kirby, Virginia           50:1
        Charlie Ward, Florida St        50:1
        Field                            6:1
31.232CNTROL::CHILDSIf Bush was a horse, you'd shoot em'Thu Aug 27 1992 14:322
 Jerrome Bettis bank on it!!!!!!!!
31.233ELMAGO::CGRIEGOFri Aug 28 1992 16:024
    Does anybody have the odds on all the NFL teams, against winning the
    SB?
    
    Carlos
31.234HEFTY::MAYHEWDGiantsMania IV, Aug. 22Fri Aug 28 1992 16:3230
Odds against winning Super Bowl XXVII:

	San Francisco	5:1
	Washington	5:1
	Philadelphia	7:1
	Buffalo		8:1
	Houston		10:1
	Dallas		15:1
	Denver		20:1
	Detroit		25:1
	Chicago		25:1
	New Orleans	30:1
	LA Raiders	40:1
	Kansas City	40:1
	NY Giants	50:1
	NY Jets		100:1
	Atlanta		125:1
	Miami		150:1
	Pittsburgh	500:1
	Cleveland	1,000:1
	Seattle		2,000:1
	San Diego	2,500:1
	Minnesota	5,000:1
	Cincinnati	7,500:1
	LA Rams		10,000:1
	New England	25,000:1
	Green Bay	25,000:1
	Tampa Bay	50,000:1
	Phoenix		100,000:1
	Indianapolis	10,000,000:1
31.235What the heck, put a buck on the Colts.AXIS::ROBICHAUDNatteringNabobsOfNegativismFri Aug 28 1992 16:541
    
31.236ELMAGO::CGRIEGOFri Aug 28 1992 16:555
    That was quick,......thanks.
    
    K.C. & Miami both sound like good bets....huh?
    
    Carlos
31.237another REAL college football gameHBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleFri Aug 28 1992 17:244
Kickoff Classic, East Rutherford

	Iowa		6	NC State	

31.238NFL Week 1HBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleTue Sep 01 1992 16:4519
31.239College FootballHBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleTue Sep 01 1992 17:2032
31.240NFL Week 2HBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleWed Sep 09 1992 16:0017
31.241CAMONE::WAYFeed My FrankensteinWed Sep 09 1992 16:073
>	dallas		3	NY GIANTS	

Somebody HAS to be smoking that waccy tobaccy.....8^)
31.242BSS::JCOTANCHWed Sep 09 1992 16:219
>>	dallas		3	NY GIANTS	

> Somebody HAS to be smoking that waccy tobaccy.....8^)

I agree.  Can't believe Dallas is only favored by 3.


:^)
Joe
31.243College FootballHBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleWed Sep 09 1992 16:2432
31.244ACESMK::FRANCUSMets in '92Wed Sep 09 1992 16:244
    Giants at home, and after last week, 3 may not be that out of wack.
    
    The Crazy Met
    
31.245FSOA::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 297-2623Wed Sep 09 1992 16:337
    Forgot one:
    
    DELAWARE		28	Massachusetts
    
    Sort of sums up how I think this sorry season is going to go.  :-(
    
    John
31.246This should be a good onePBST::BROWNSINGING DOO WAH DIDDYWed Sep 09 1992 18:498

	Having watched how the Dallas manhandled the World Champs and how poorly
the Giants performed against the 49er's. 3 points seems reasonable to me.
I do expect to see (hopefully it will be on the tube here in Donkeyland) one
heck of a game.

Cadzilla
31.247CSC32::SALZERWed Sep 09 1992 22:504
    Tid bit for next season. It is recommended on NFL opening 
    day to take the home teams that are underdogs. 
    
    BoB
31.248now he tells us ...HBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleThu Sep 10 1992 14:180
31.249CSC32::SALZERThu Sep 10 1992 18:361
    Yeah.  I found out about it monday night at half time. 
31.250nfl recordsHBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleTue Sep 15 1992 12:2734
From Tom Pfau's ::POOL_92

Team Records vs. Spreads:
                                    Straight Up                                   Against Spread
                           Home                    Away                    Home                    Away
                   Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog
Falcons             1  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  1     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0
Bills               1  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0
Bears               1  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0
Bengals             0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0
Browns              0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0
Cowboys             0  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0
Broncos             2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0
Lions               1  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0
Packers             0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0
Oilers              0  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0
Colts               0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0
Chiefs              1  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0
Raiders             0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0
Rams                1  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0
Dolphins            0  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0
Vikings             0  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0
Patriots            0  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0
Saints              1  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0
Jets                0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  1
Giants              0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     0  0  0
Eagles              1  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0
Cardinals           0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0
Steelers            0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0
Chargers            0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0
49ers               0  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0
Seahawks            0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0
Buccaneers          2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0
Redskins            1  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0
31.251NFL Week 3HBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleWed Sep 16 1992 13:3017
31.252College FootballHBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleWed Sep 16 1992 13:3037
31.253Why no Ivy lines?HBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleMon Sep 21 1992 16:0414
Does anyone (left) out there in ::SPORTSland know why they quit showing
lines for the Ivy League?

Traditionally, as in every year I've been around before thised year, they
have lines for when the Ivy League plays each other or another team that
has a line. Well lasted weekend, they all played each other but there
weren't any lines.

FWIW, they've added 2 teams to the list for lines: Louisiana Tech and
Fresno St. Traditionally, these teams have played a lot of 1-A teams.

Thanks for any insight.

TTom
31.254BSS::JCOTANCHFaiders are 0-3!Mon Sep 21 1992 16:364
    Isn't the Ivy league I-AA now?  The don't give lines for game involving
    I-AA teams.
    
    Joe
31.255FSBIC::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 297-2623Mon Sep 21 1992 17:403
    Ivy League has been 1-AA for many years.
    
    John
31.256not on the listHBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleMon Sep 21 1992 17:528
That's right, Ninj.

Even though Harvard, Yale, etc. were 1-AA, their tradition - I guees -
had kept them on "The Line". I've heard rumors of local lines but the Ivy
is definitely not on the list of games with lines that Las Vegas
publishes. 

TTom
31.257(8^)*PFSVAX::JACOBU S 1992 Rodeo Sex ChampionMon Sep 21 1992 17:559
    
    >>Ivy League has been 1-AA for many years.
    
    Shouldn't the Patriots be playing in 1-AA this year???
    
    Inquiring minds and all that SLOF
    
    JaKe
    
31.258FSBIC::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 297-2623Mon Sep 21 1992 18:107
    Keeping the Ivy League on the Vegas lines was a matter of tradition. 
    For a long time, they were included in any preview along with the big
    schools and so forth.  On the scoreboard shows, if they give any 1-AA
    scores at all, they give Ivy League scores.  Of course, it's been a
    long time since their performance justified their publicity.
    
    John
31.259Guess I was wrong for a change :^)BSS::JCOTANCHFaiders are 0-3!Mon Sep 21 1992 19:563
    I thought the Ivy just switched to I-AA a few years ago...
    
    Joe
31.260ACESMK::FRANCUSMets in '93Mon Sep 21 1992 20:035
    Ivy's football switched to I-AA about a year after that classification
    came into existence. Ivy basketball is I-A.
    
    The Crazy Met
    
31.261FSBIC::JHENDRYJohn Hendry, DTN 297-2623Mon Sep 21 1992 20:105
    And the firsted year of 1-AA was 1978, since the Minutemen went to the
    firsted 1-AA playoffs that year, beating Nevada-Reno and losing to
    Florida A&M in the championship game.
    
    Ninj
31.262ACESMK::FRANCUSMets in '93Mon Sep 21 1992 20:266
    If the first year of 1-AA was 1978 then the Ivy's became 1-AA a few
    years after that. When I was at Columbia 1979-1983 I am pretty sure
    they were still 1-A.
    
    The Crazy Met
    
31.263NFL recordsHBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleTue Sep 22 1992 14:4333
from CAFEIN::POOL_92

                                    Straight Up                                   Against Spread
                           Home                    Away                    Home                    Away
                   Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog
Falcons             1  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  1     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0
Bills               2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0
Bears               1  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0
Bengals             0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Browns              0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     1  0  0
Cowboys             1  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0
Broncos             2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0
Lions               1  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  0  0
Packers             1  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0
Oilers              1  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0
Colts               0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0
Chiefs              1  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0
Raiders             0  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0
Rams                1  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0
Dolphins            1  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0
Vikings             1  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0
Patriots            0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0
Saints              1  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  0  0
Jets                0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  1
Giants              0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     1  0  0
Eagles              2  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0
Cardinals           0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Steelers            0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     2  0  0
Chargers            0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0
49ers               0  1  0     0  0  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     2  0  0     0  0  0
Seahawks            0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Buccaneers          2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0
Redskins            2  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0
31.264NFL week 4HBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleWed Sep 23 1992 13:2419
31.265CollegeHBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleWed Sep 23 1992 13:2436
31.266Take the pointsCTHQ::LEARYJackie Sherrill won't STEER ya wrong.Wed Sep 23 1992 14:515
    Take Purdue with the 25.5. Irish will win but the Boilers will
    cover. Why?? I'll be there
    
    MikeL
    
31.267ACESMK::FRANCUSMets in '93Wed Sep 23 1992 15:364
    Anyone have the line for the Ivy's ??
    
    The Crazy Met
    
31.268PFSVAX::JACOBFifty-Seven brain cells &amp; nuthin onWed Sep 23 1992 15:558
    re.267
    
    The real question is
    
    DOES ANYBODY CARE!!!!
    
    JaKe
    
31.269Beano Cook?HBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleWed Sep 23 1992 16:030
31.270odd oddsHBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleThu Sep 24 1992 14:043
Here's the one everyone is waiting for:

	Jimmy Connors	5:1	Martina Navratilova
31.271CSC32::M_MACGREGORThu Sep 24 1992 14:381
    when is this match going to take place, is it this Saturday?
31.272AXIS::CHAPPELCalling Dr.Howard,Dr.Fine,Dr.HowardThu Sep 24 1992 14:4110
31.273SOLANA::MAY_BRI need a bambulanceThu Sep 24 1992 14:594
    Ity was advertised here as $30  for PPV.  I can't believe ANYONE would
    shell out that kind of money for such a dumb idea.
    
    Brews
31.274LJOHUB::CRITZThu Sep 24 1992 15:5812
    	Brews,
    
    	Well, I have to agree.
    
    	But, exactly 19 years ago last Sunday evening, a ton of people
    	paid to go to the Astrodome and watch Billie Jean King whup
    	Bobby Riggs.
    
    	I remember because my oldest daughter was born the next day
    	(21 September).
    
    	Scott
31.275SOLANA::MAY_BRI need a bambulanceThu Sep 24 1992 16:006
    
    But at least that was a show, more like WWF.  This is getting passed
    off as serious tennis.  I don't think we'll see Conners dressed up like
    a big Baby Ruth candy bar.
    
    Brews
31.276PFSVAX::JACOBMartina's half the man Jimmy C. isThu Sep 24 1992 16:186
    See p_name
    
    'Nuff said????
    
    JaKe
    
31.277AXIS::ROBICHAUDJackieMo,That'sAllYaGottaKnowThu Sep 24 1992 16:346
    	Martina and Jimmy were great tennis players but don't have that
    hustler's mentality to pull off this sham.  Now if it were Bobby
    Riggs he could get folks to spend money on something they don't
    want.  Look what Bobby did to Oscar Madison.
    
    				/Don
31.278Felix took care of BobbyCNTROL::CHILDSGeorge Bush, mental wimpThu Sep 24 1992 17:010
31.279Conners is just strengthening his reputation as a sleaze...NAC::G_WAUGAMANThu Sep 24 1992 17:021
    
31.280PFSVAX::JACOBMartina's half the man Jimmy C. isThu Sep 24 1992 17:0311
    
    >>    <<< Note 31.278 by CNTROL::CHILDS "George Bush, mental wimp" >>>
    >>                     -< Felix took care of Bobby >-
    
    Thanks for clearing that up.  I always wondered why Felix never pursued
    many wimmen, now I know why.
    
    (8^)*
    
    JaKe
    
31.281not personalHBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleThu Sep 24 1992 17:065
Odds on staying on a Topic within ::SPORTS:



			0
31.282CNTROL::CHILDSGeorge Bush, mental wimpThu Sep 24 1992 17:5111
 Just too stay on the topic, 	I'll be rooting for Butchina.....

 Nup this Jimmy....
                   .
                    .
                     .
                      >

 mike

31.283NFL week 5HBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleTue Sep 29 1992 12:2915
31.284College FootballHBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleTue Sep 29 1992 12:2939
31.285QUASER::JACKSONTAAs the stomach churnesTue Sep 29 1992 15:031
      All home teams except Phoenix are favored....
31.286NFL recordsHBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleTue Sep 29 1992 16:3232
From CAFEIN::POOL_92
                                    Straight Up                                   Against Spread
                           Home                    Away                    Home                    Away
                   Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog
Falcons             1  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  1  1     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Bills               2  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0
Bears               2  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0
Bengals             0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Browns              0  0  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     1  0  0
Cowboys             1  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0
Broncos             2  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0
Lions               1  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  0  0
Packers             1  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0
Oilers              2  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0
Colts               0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0
Chiefs              2  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0
Raiders             0  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  2  0
Rams                2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0
Dolphins            1  0  0     0  0  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0
Vikings             1  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  1  0
Patriots            0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0
Saints              1  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     2  0  0
Jets                0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  1  1
Giants              0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     1  0  0
Eagles              2  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0
Cardinals           0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Steelers            0  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     2  0  0
Chargers            0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0
49ers               0  1  0     0  0  0     3  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     3  0  0     0  0  0
Seahawks            0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Buccaneers          2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  0  0
Redskins            2  0  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0
31.287LCSHBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleMon Oct 05 1992 14:078
31.288NFL Week 6HBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleTue Oct 06 1992 12:3914
31.289College footballHBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleTue Oct 06 1992 12:4239
31.290new big game line and some IvyHBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleWed Oct 07 1992 13:348
31.291CSC32::SALZERWed Oct 07 1992 18:146
    Is this standard procedure across the nation?  Penn St and
    Miami are a pick. If I pick Penn St. I give Miami +1 or
    if I pick Miami I give Penn St. +1.  That's the way some 
    run the game. 
    
    BoB
31.292At least in Vegas they give you a fighting chance...NAC::G_WAUGAMANWed Oct 07 1992 18:4014
    
    > Is this standard procedure across the nation?  Penn St and
    > Miami are a pick. If I pick Penn St. I give Miami +1 or
    > if I pick Miami I give Penn St. +1.  That's the way some 
    > run the game. 
      
    I hope not.  Besides the usual vigorish, if the game ends in a tie,
    someone (the house) gets very rich.  This is the equivalent of the
    house winning all "push" spread bets on any other game.  Such rules,
    which eat away at any marginal chance an intelligent bettor might 
    have in the long run, are why I stay away...
    
    glenn
      
31.293partial answerHBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleWed Oct 07 1992 19:4633
Betting "practices" vary greatly from one area to the nexted and one
bookie to another.

When a game is listed as a pick, it says just that. No points are applied
to the final scores. The easiest way to think of the spread is that you
choose your team and apply the spread to your team's score. Plus points
are added to your score and minus points are subtracted. So a pick means
add - or I guess subtract - 0 points from your team's points.

Now on parlay cards don't list a "toss up" as a pick or 0 points. On
these cards, an even game is listed as "-2/-2" which means that no matter
which team you pick, you subtract 2 from your team's score. This gives
the house monumental odds. First of all, when you tie on a card you lose.
The logic being that you are picking winners and your team didn't win, it
merely tied. So that means any final score where one teams wins by 2, by
1 or in the case of a tie, you lose.

Lastly, but not leastly, is how vigorish is applied. Most local books
make the losers pay, and it's usually 10%. So if'n you bet 100 bucks on
the Pirates lasted night, you lost $110. If'n you bet 100 bucks on
Atlanta, you win $100.

Las Vegas does it backwards. They deduct the vigorish from the winners.
Lasted night, a 100 buck Pirate bet would have lost you 100 bucks. If'n
you had Atlanta, you woulda won $195 - you get your bet back and 95% of
your bet is your winnings. Also, lest it be left unsaid, in Las Vegas you
gotta put your cold hard cash up front. When you lose, there ain't
nothing to do. At the local establishment, you make a phone call with no
money down. Ya better have next "payday", though.

And then there's the over/under but that's another story...

TTom
31.294NFL recordsHBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleWed Oct 07 1992 19:5833
from CAFEIN::POOL_92

                                    Straight Up                                   Against Spread
                           Home                    Away                    Home                    Away
                   Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog
Falcons             2  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     1  1  1     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Bills               2  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0
Bears               2  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Bengals             0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Browns              0  0  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     1  0  0
Cowboys             1  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0
Broncos             3  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     2  0  1     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0
Lions               1  2  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  0  0
Packers             1  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     1  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0
Oilers              2  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0
Colts               0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Chiefs              2  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  2  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  1
Raiders             1  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  2  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  1  0     0  2  0
Rams                2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  3  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0
Dolphins            1  0  0     0  0  0     2  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     1  0  0
Vikings             2  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  1  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  1  0
Patriots            0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0
Saints              1  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     2  1  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     3  0  0
Jets                1  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  2  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     0  1  0     0  1  1
Giants              0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Eagles              3  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0
Cardinals           0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Steelers            0  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     2  0  0
Chargers            1  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     1  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0
49ers               1  1  0     0  0  0     3  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     3  0  0     0  0  0
Seahawks            0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0
Buccaneers          2  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  0  0
Redskins            2  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0
31.295PFSVAX::JACOBWhere the Hell am I??Wed Oct 07 1992 20:225
    What's the line on Barry "Wah Wah" Bonds continuing his Moby Dick sized
    choke job for the rest of this NLCS?????
    
    JaKe
    
31.296dropping HBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleWed Oct 07 1992 20:334
Not too good. He just started the rally that led to 4 runs for the
Piratoes.

TTom
31.297NFL week 7HBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleTue Oct 13 1992 12:1518
31.298College FootballHBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleTue Oct 13 1992 12:1542
31.299NFL resultsHBAHBA::HAASSir TurtleWed Oct 14 1992 14:3233
from CAFEIN::POOL_92:

                                    Straight Up                                   Against Spread
                           Home                    Away                    Home                    Away
                   Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog
Falcons             2  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  3  0     1  1  1     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  1  0
Bills               2  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     1  0  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     1  0  0
Bears               2  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Bengals             0  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Browns              0  0  0     1  2  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  1  0     1  0  0
Cowboys             2  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     1  1  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  1  0
Broncos             3  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  2  0     2  0  1     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  2  0
Lions               1  2  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  0  0
Packers             1  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     1  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0
Oilers              2  1  0     0  0  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     2  0  0     0  0  0
Colts               0  0  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Chiefs              2  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  2  0     2  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  1
Raiders             1  1  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     0  2  0     1  1  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     0  2  0
Rams                2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  4  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  2  0
Dolphins            2  0  0     0  0  0     2  0  0     1  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     1  0  0
Vikings             2  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  1  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  1  0
Patriots            0  1  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0
Saints              2  0  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     2  1  0     1  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     3  0  0
Jets                1  0  0     0  1  0     0  2  0     0  2  0     1  0  0     0  1  0     0  2  0     0  1  1
Giants              1  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     1  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     1  1  0
Eagles              3  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0
Cardinals           0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     0  3  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  2  0
Steelers            0  0  0     1  0  0     0  2  0     2  0  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  2  0     2  0  0
Chargers            1  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     1  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  2  0
49ers               1  1  0     0  0  0     4  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     3  1  0     0  0  0
Seahawks            0  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     1  3  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  3  0
Buccaneers          2  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  0  0
Redskins            3  0  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     0  2  0     0  0  0
31.300TORREY::MAY_BRBad, bad Jackson BrownWed Oct 14 1992 14:465
31.301CAMONE::WAYWe're the dance band on the TitanicWed Oct 14 1992 15:043
31.302SCHOOL::RIEURead his lips...Know new taxesWed Oct 14 1992 18:273
       For those who participate in ::POOL_92, remember there's a Thurs.
    game!
                                       Denny
31.303FSCORE::PAVEZKADrink Canada Dry....I'm tryingTue Oct 20 1992 12:244
    Does anyone have the odds for this weekend's NFL games?
    
    thanks
    pete
31.304MCIS2::DHAMELThing of beauty and a boy foreverTue Oct 20 1992 13:099
    
    >    Does anyone have the odds for this weekend's NFL games?

    Odds are the games will be played.
    
    Glad to help.
    
    Dickstah
    
31.305QUASER::HUNTERDenvers Line, Maddox, Dan ReevesTue Oct 20 1992 17:403
    Dickstah...   I'm rooooooollllllling !!
    
    Bg
31.306For TTom...CTHQ1::MCCULLOUGHLindsey AND Melanie's dadWed Oct 21 1992 12:3016
NFL Week 8

	cleveland	6	NEW ENGLAND
	chicago		3.5	GREEN BAY
	dallas		1	LA RAIDERS
	denver		1	SAN DIEGO
	HOUSTON	       16	cincinnati
	KANSAS CITY	8	pittsburgh
	MIAMI	       13.5	indy
	NY GIANTS      15	seattle	
	PHILADELPHIA   16	phoenix
	TAMPA BAY	3	detroit
	washington	3	MINNESOTA

 Monday
	buffalo		9.5	NY JETS
31.307straight NFL skinnyHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceWed Oct 21 1992 13:1315
31.308and college feetbawlHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceWed Oct 21 1992 13:1339
31.309ACESMK::FRANCUSMets in '93-JaKe's p-name to beWed Oct 21 1992 15:294
    The bookies must be on drugs. Giants favored by 15 over anybody??
    
    The Crazy Met
    
31.310Sheridan logic?HBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceWed Oct 21 1992 19:244
I guess they figger that Seattle is better at being worse than the
Giants.

TTom
31.311The huskies would whip them...DECWET::METZGERWed Oct 21 1992 21:3112
Hey we're talking Stan Gelbaugh at QB, a whipped and beaten O-line,
a team that is going through the motions, and an offense that crows
when it breaks the 100 yard mark in total offense for a game.

We're talking about back to back shutouts....

The only thing good about this team is Cortez Kennedy.....

I'd take the giants and give 15 points.

Metz
31.312ACESMK::FRANCUSMets in '93-JaKe's p-name to beThu Oct 22 1992 01:056
    re: .311
    
    You're on. Loser shows up in the Crow Cafe!
    
    The Crazy Met
    
31.313backward listingHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceThu Oct 22 1992 13:263
31.314NFL week 9HBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceTue Oct 27 1992 13:5315
31.315CollegeHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceTue Oct 27 1992 13:5342
31.316NFL recordsHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceTue Oct 27 1992 14:2032
from CAFEIN::POOL_92:
                                    Straight Up                                   Against Spread
                           Home                    Away                    Home                    Away
                   Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog
Falcons             2  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  4  0     1  1  1     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  2  0
Bills               2  1  0     0  0  0     2  1  0     1  0  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     1  0  0
Bears               3  1  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  2  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  1  0
Bengals             0  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  3  0     0  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  3  0
Browns              1  0  0     1  2  0     1  1  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     1  2  0     0  2  0     1  0  0
Cowboys             3  0  0     1  0  0     2  0  0     0  1  0     2  1  0     1  0  0     2  0  0     0  1  0
Broncos             3  0  0     1  0  0     1  1  0     0  2  0     2  0  1     1  0  0     1  1  0     0  2  0
Lions               1  2  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  3  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     3  1  0
Packers             1  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     0  3  0     1  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     0  3  0
Oilers              3  1  0     0  0  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     2  1  0     0  0  0
Colts               0  1  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     2  1  0     0  1  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     2  1  0
Chiefs              2  1  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  3  0     2  1  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     1  1  1
Raiders             1  1  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     0  2  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     0  2  0
Rams                2  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  4  0     2  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     2  2  0
Dolphins            3  1  0     0  0  0     2  0  0     1  0  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     1  0  0
Vikings             3  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     1  1  0     1  2  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     1  1  0
Patriots            0  1  0     0  3  0     0  0  0     0  3  0     0  1  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     0  3  0
Saints              2  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     2  1  0     1  1  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     3  0  0
Jets                1  0  0     0  2  0     0  2  0     0  2  0     1  0  0     1  1  0     0  2  0     0  1  1
Giants              2  0  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     1  1  0
Eagles              4  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  1  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  1  0
Cardinals           0  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     0  4  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     2  2  0
Steelers            1  0  0     1  0  0     0  2  0     3  0  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  2  0     3  0  0
Chargers            1  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  2  0
49ers               2  1  0     0  0  0     4  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     3  1  0     0  0  0
Seahawks            0  1  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     1  4  0     0  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     2  3  0
Buccaneers          2  2  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  1  0
Redskins            4  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     0  3  0     0  0  0
31.317presidential oddsHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceTue Oct 27 1992 16:5018
From: clarinews@clarinet.com (UPI)
Newsgroups: clari.news.election,clari.local.nevada
Subject: Clinton is 12-to-1 favorite in Vegas
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 92 17:22:03 PST
 
	LAS VEGAS, Nev. (UPI) -- A Las Vegas oddsmaker has made Democrat Bill
Clinton a prohibitive 12-to-1 favorite over President Bush.
	``While nothing's impossible, and upsets have been known to happen in
politics, something cataclysmic would have to happen for Clinton to lose
the election,'' said Art Manteris, vice president of race and sports
operations at the Las Vegas Hilton. ``Although his numbers have dropped
a bit recently, his lead remains consistent nationwide.
	``Frankly, at this stage, a Clinton defeat would shock the political
world in the same way that Mike Tyson's heavyweight title loss to Buster
Douglas rocked the boxing world,'' Manteris said.
	Tyson was a 30-to-1 favorite in that fight.
	Although the sports book set the odds, it will not actually accept
bets on the election.
31.318this note has been writelocked for obvious reasonsFRETZ::HEISERevidence that demands a verdictTue Oct 27 1992 17:191
    
31.319QUASER::HUNTERDenvers Line, Maddox, Dan ReevesTue Oct 27 1992 17:523
    NOT !!!!!!!
    
    
31.320CAMONE::WAYWe're the dance band on the TitanicTue Oct 27 1992 20:0734
>            -< this note has been writelocked for obvious reasons >-


If you have a problem with a moderator's decision, the proper channel
is VAXmail.


There is no reason why The Line should not be included in the SPORTS
notes file.   It passes on Sporting information to those who are
interested in it.


The Sports Joke topic has at times been the respository for sports-related
jokes -- which is really a marginal reason for its existence at best.

Of late, it has been a repository for other types of humor, which,
while to many may be funny, was not sports-related, and there are other
conferences where it would be better received.


Since one of the caveats of opening the Joke Topic back up was that
all jokes in there must be sports-related, and since that has not been
followed,  I write locked the note.

That recent notes in there were dealing with one of two subjects not
allowed in this file because of the inflammatory nature of them, was
one more reason to write lock it.......


'Saw


    

31.321NFL week 10HBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceTue Nov 03 1992 15:1017
31.322college footballHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceTue Nov 03 1992 19:4643
31.323nfl recordsHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceThu Nov 05 1992 15:0933
From CAFEIN::POOL_92:

                                    Straight Up                                   Against Spread
                           Home                    Away                    Home                    Away
                   Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog
Falcons             3  1  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     0  4  0     1  2  1     0  0  0     0  0  0     2  2  0
Bills               3  1  0     0  0  0     2  1  0     1  0  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     1  0  0
Bears               3  2  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  2  0     2  3  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  1  0
Bengals             0  1  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     1  3  0     0  1  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     1  3  0
Browns              1  0  0     1  2  0     1  2  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     1  2  0     0  3  0     1  0  0
Cowboys             4  0  0     1  0  0     2  0  0     0  1  0     3  1  0     1  0  0     2  0  0     0  1  0
Broncos             3  0  0     1  0  0     1  1  0     0  2  0     2  0  1     1  0  0     1  1  0     0  2  0
Lions               1  3  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  3  0     1  3  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     3  1  0
Packers             1  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     1  3  0     1  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     1  3  0
Oilers              3  1  0     0  0  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     2  2  0     0  0  0
Colts               0  1  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     2  2  0     0  1  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     2  2  0
Chiefs              2  1  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  3  0     2  1  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     1  1  1
Raiders             1  1  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     0  2  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     0  2  0
Rams                2  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  5  0     2  0  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     3  2  0
Dolphins            3  1  0     0  0  0     2  1  0     1  0  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     1  0  0
Vikings             3  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     2  1  0     1  2  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     2  1  0
Patriots            0  1  0     0  3  0     0  0  0     0  4  0     0  1  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     1  3  0
Saints              3  0  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     2  1  0     1  2  0     0  1  0     1  0  0     3  0  0
Jets                1  0  0     1  2  0     0  2  0     0  2  0     1  0  0     2  1  0     0  2  0     0  1  1
Giants              2  0  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     2  1  0     1  1  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     2  1  0
Eagles              4  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  2  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  2  0
Cardinals           0  0  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     0  4  0     0  0  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     2  2  0
Steelers            1  0  0     2  0  0     0  2  0     3  0  0     1  0  0     2  0  0     0  2  0     3  0  0
Chargers            2  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     2  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  2  0
49ers               2  1  0     0  0  0     4  1  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     3  2  0     0  0  0
Seahawks            0  1  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     1  4  0     0  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     2  3  0
Buccaneers          2  2  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     1  3  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     0  0  0     3  1  0
Redskins            4  1  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     2  3  0     0  0  0     0  3  0     0  0  0
31.324What is an "Off" line ?CAMONE::MAZURIt ain't the meat, it's the lotion.Tue Nov 10 1992 13:316
    I noticed in the paper this morning that the Patriots-Colts game
    opened at 7 points (Colts favored), but now the line is "Off".  What
    does this mean ?  Does it have anything to do with MacFEARson and
    Emtman's being out for the season ?
    
    -Paul
31.325NFL, week #11, including Indy-NEHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceTue Nov 10 1992 14:0516
31.326College footballHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceTue Nov 10 1992 14:0542
31.327fightin oddsHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceTue Nov 10 1992 14:3410
Odds on Holyfield-Bowe fight:

	Holyfield	7:5	Bowe

other odds:

	Holyfield wins by knockout	2:1
	Holyfield wins by decision	2:1
	Bowe wins by knockout		2:1
	Bowe wins by decision		5:2
31.328NAC::G_WAUGAMANTue Nov 10 1992 14:357
    
    Holyfield continues to command no respect.  I don't like him much
    either, but I think I'd want higher odds than 7:5 on essentially an
    unproven in Bowe...
    
    glenn
    
31.329NFL recordsHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceTue Nov 10 1992 19:0932
from CAFEIN::POOL_92:
                                    Straight Up                                   Against Spread
                           Home                    Away                    Home                    Away
                   Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog
Falcons             3  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  4  0     1  2  1     0  1  0     0  0  0     2  2  0
Bills               4  1  0     0  0  0     2  1  0     1  0  0     3  2  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     1  0  0
Bears               3  3  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     0  2  0     2  4  0     0  0  0     1  0  0     1  1  0
Bengals             0  1  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     2  3  0     0  1  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     2  3  0
Browns              1  0  0     1  2  0     1  2  0     2  0  0     1  0  0     1  2  0     0  3  0     2  0  0
Cowboys             4  0  0     1  0  0     3  0  0     0  1  0     3  1  0     1  0  0     3  0  0     0  1  0
Broncos             4  0  0     1  0  0     1  1  0     0  2  0     3  0  1     1  0  0     1  1  0     0  2  0
Lions               1  3  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     1  3  0     1  3  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     3  1  0
Packers             1  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     1  4  0     1  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     1  4  0
Oilers              3  2  0     0  0  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     2  3  0     0  0  0     2  2  0     0  0  0
Colts               0  1  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     2  2  0     0  1  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     2  2  0
Chiefs              3  1  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  3  0     2  2  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     1  1  1
Raiders             1  1  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     0  3  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     0  3  0
Rams                2  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     0  5  0     2  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     3  2  0
Dolphins            3  1  0     0  0  0     3  1  0     1  0  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     2  2  0     1  0  0
Vikings             3  0  0     0  1  0     2  0  0     2  1  0     1  2  0     1  0  0     2  0  0     2  1  0
Patriots            0  1  0     0  4  0     0  0  0     0  4  0     0  1  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     1  3  0
Saints              3  0  0     0  1  0     2  0  0     2  1  0     1  2  0     0  1  0     2  0  0     3  0  0
Jets                1  0  0     1  2  0     0  2  0     0  3  0     1  0  0     2  1  0     0  2  0     0  2  1
Giants              3  0  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     2  1  0     2  1  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     2  1  0
Eagles              5  0  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  2  0     3  2  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  2  0
Cardinals           0  0  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     1  4  0     0  0  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     3  2  0
Steelers            1  0  0     2  0  0     0  2  0     3  1  0     1  0  0     2  0  0     0  2  0     3  1  0
Chargers            2  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  3  0     2  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     2  2  0
49ers               2  1  0     0  0  0     5  1  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     4  2  0     0  0  0
Seahawks            0  1  0     0  3  0     0  0  0     1  4  0     0  1  0     1  1  1     0  0  0     2  3  0
Buccaneers          2  2  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     1  3  0     2  2  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     3  1  0
Redskins            4  1  0     0  0  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     2  3  0     0  0  0     0  3  1     0  0  0
31.330Holyfied-Bowe goes to pick emHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceWed Nov 11 1992 13:344
ESPN reported that the line on the Holyfield-Bowe fight has moved to a
pick. As in no odds, straight up.

TTom
31.331USCTR1::NAHEARNFri Nov 13 1992 17:3110
    The reason for the Pats-Colts game being taken 'Off the Board' was that
    the Patriots came out with an injury report with 10 or more players
    listed as questionable for the game.   The book needed time to assess
    the impact of the injured players, and there likliehood of playing
    before re-posting a line.
    
    
    HTH,
    
    Nelly
31.332off on some, on on othersHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceFri Nov 13 1992 17:4911
There are a couple of major sources for the lines. One of those took the
game off the board.

There are, however, available lines. If'n you wanted to, you could catch
a shuttle out to Las Vegas and play it at the Mirage. Hey, take in the
fight while you're there.

And speaking for JD, I hope that if anyone watches the fight, they will
post the most exiting news here in the Bar o' Brother Love.

TTom
31.333da line on da tyme?CSTEAM::FARLEYMegabucks Winner WannabeeFri Nov 13 1992 17:548
    What's the line on the starting time of the fight?
    
    mindless deens......
    
    I remain,
    also wondering what bars will have it live?
    Kev
    
31.334AXIS::CHAPPELCalling Dr.Howard,Dr.Fine,Dr.HowardFri Nov 13 1992 17:5612
31.335PATE::MACNEALruck `n' rollFri Nov 13 1992 18:023
31.336QUASER::HUNTERDenvers Line, Maddox, Dan ReevesFri Nov 13 1992 18:1510
    PPV...  Tha Purchase Price variance...
    
    You know,  The difference between standard and actual.
    
    You set your standard for a beer at $2.25, you pay $2.75,
    you have negitive PPV of $.50
    
    FWIW
    
    BG
31.337just very costlyHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceFri Nov 13 1992 18:2410
>    I thought PPV events were off limits to bars.

Mac,

They're not off limits, just very expensive. One local mega bar has shown
most of these big fights. They are charging 20 bucks a head just to get
in. Hail, if'n I want to see this with a friend, I'll spend 39.95 and
watch it from the comfort of my den with my beer.

TTom
31.338JARETH::YANKOWSKASPaul YankowskasFri Nov 13 1992 18:318
    re the last few:
    
    Suffolk Downs is showing the fight for nothing.  Of course, they just
    happen to have simulcasting from a few thoroughbred and harness tracks
    going on at the same time...
    
    
    py
31.339SCHOOL::RIEUSay Goodbye George!Fri Nov 13 1992 18:502
      Most racetracks around these parts are showing it.
                                  Denny
31.340NFL week 12HBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceTue Nov 17 1992 12:4617
31.341college footballHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceTue Nov 17 1992 12:4636
31.342QUASER::HUNTERDenvers Line, Maddox, Dan ReevesTue Nov 17 1992 15:563
    Who wants to give me the pts on the Faids denver game...  ;^)
    
    BG
31.343NFL recordsHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceTue Nov 17 1992 16:5432
from CAFEIN::POOL_92:
                                    Straight Up                                   Against Spread
                           Home                    Away                    Home                    Away
                   Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog
Falcons             4  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  4  0     1  2  2     0  1  0     0  0  0     2  2  0
Bills               4  1  0     0  0  0     3  1  0     1  0  0     3  2  0     0  0  0     2  2  0     1  0  0
Bears               3  3  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  2  0     2  4  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     1  1  0
Bengals             0  1  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     2  4  0     0  1  0     2  1  0     0  0  0     3  3  0
Browns              1  1  0     1  2  0     1  2  0     2  0  0     1  1  0     1  2  0     0  3  0     2  0  0
Cowboys             4  1  0     1  0  0     3  0  0     0  1  0     3  2  0     1  0  0     3  0  0     0  1  0
Broncos             5  0  0     1  0  0     1  1  0     0  2  0     4  0  1     1  0  0     1  1  0     0  2  0
Lions               1  3  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     1  4  0     1  3  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     4  1  0
Packers             1  0  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     1  4  0     1  0  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     1  4  0
Oilers              3  2  0     0  0  0     2  2  0     1  0  0     2  3  0     0  0  0     2  2  0     1  0  0
Colts               0  2  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     2  2  0     0  2  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     2  2  0
Chiefs              4  1  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     0  3  0     3  2  0     1  0  0     1  0  0     1  1  1
Raiders             2  1  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     0  3  0     2  1  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     0  3  0
Rams                2  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     1  5  0     2  1  0     1  0  0     0  0  0     4  2  0
Dolphins            3  1  0     0  1  0     3  1  0     1  0  0     2  2  0     0  1  0     2  2  0     1  0  0
Vikings             3  1  0     0  1  0     2  0  0     2  1  0     1  3  0     1  0  0     2  0  0     2  1  0
Patriots            0  1  0     0  4  0     0  0  0     1  4  0     0  1  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     2  3  0
Saints              3  0  0     0  1  0     2  0  0     2  2  0     1  2  0     0  1  0     2  0  0     4  0  0
Jets                2  0  0     1  2  0     0  2  0     0  3  0     1  1  0     2  1  0     0  2  0     0  2  1
Giants              3  0  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     2  2  0     2  1  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     2  2  0
Eagles              5  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  2  0     3  2  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     0  2  0
Cardinals           0  0  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     1  5  0     0  0  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     3  2  1
Steelers            2  0  0     2  0  0     0  2  0     3  1  0     1  1  0     2  0  0     0  2  0     3  1  0
Chargers            2  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     2  3  0     2  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     3  2  0
49ers               3  1  0     0  0  0     5  1  0     0  0  0     1  3  0     0  0  0     4  2  0     0  0  0
Seahawks            0  1  0     0  3  0     0  0  0     1  5  0     0  1  0     1  1  1     0  0  0     2  4  0
Buccaneers          2  2  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  3  0     2  2  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     3  1  0
Redskins            4  1  0     0  0  0     2  2  0     0  1  0     2  3  0     0  0  0     0  3  1     0  1  0
31.344year o the dog?HBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceTue Nov 17 1992 17:0917
Some numbers for the season so far. These are based on the USA Lines that
I've been posting and may not exactly coorespond to the POOL's numbers.
 
        Total games      140

        Game    Bet
        ----------------------------
        Won     Won       63  45.00%
        Won     Tied       4   2.86%
        Won     Lost      26  18.57%
        Lost    Lost      47  33.57%
 
 
        Won game          93  66.43%
        Lost bet          73  52.14%

TTom
31.345a little NBAHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceFri Nov 20 1992 15:297
31.346NFL week 13 with turkey day gamesHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceTue Nov 24 1992 16:1819
31.347turkey, friday, saturday College FootballHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceTue Nov 24 1992 16:1918
31.348heck I'll take Florida +pointsACESMK::FRANCUSMets in '93Tue Nov 24 1992 16:224
    Who was smoking what when they made Fla St a 15 point favorite??
    
    The Crazy Met
    
31.349factors and predicted bettingHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceTue Nov 24 1992 16:5719
The 15 points are a function of how well the Noles have been playing and
reflects a concern about Florida from those who remember how they
weren't even competitive against Mississippi St.

In the lasted 3 games, Florida has barely beat Southern Miss and South
Carolina and then beat a relatively weak Vanderbilt. 

Now, I can understand the flip side theory that Florida ain't no Maryland
or Tulane, either. Butcha gotta remember too that Florida ain't the same
away from Gainesville.

We'll know in a couple of days how good this line is. Remember, the line
is not a prediction of the outcome of the game but rather a prediction of
the betting on a game. The classic example of this is when Joe Namath and
the Jets beat the Colts while the line was 17 or 18. That was a great
line because it stayed constant for a couple of weeks betting. It was a
lousy predictor of the game, if'n you want look at it the "wrong" way.

TTom
31.350QUASER::JACKSONTABG + Carlos=KOD nauseaTue Nov 24 1992 22:082
      The donks are favored on the road?  Somebody is enjoying some
    halluns!!
31.351starting QB is ...HBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceWed Nov 25 1992 12:307
Hail, it's only Seattle. The question relative to the line is whether
Elway's starting.

Also in question are conflicting reports of who's starting in Cleveland,
Kosar or Tomczak. But then again it's only da Bears.

TTom
31.352TOMCZAK OUTESKIMO::WHITEHAIRWed Nov 25 1992 12:414
    
    	No conflicting reports out of Cleveland...BERNIE will start!
    
    	WOOF!!!
31.353NFL, week 14HBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceTue Dec 01 1992 10:3919
31.354Lasted regular College FootballHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceTue Dec 01 1992 10:415
31.355early bowl linesHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceTue Dec 01 1992 10:4224
31.356SCHOOL::RIEUSay Goodbye George!Tue Dec 01 1992 11:312
       Pats are favored!! The end must be drawing near!
                               Denny
31.357NFL recordsHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceThu Dec 03 1992 13:4032
from CAFEIN::POOL_92
                                    Straight Up                                   Against Spread
                           Home                    Away                    Home                    Away
                   Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog
Falcons             5  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  5  0     2  2  2     0  1  0     0  0  0     2  3  0
Bills               5  1  0     0  0  0     3  2  0     1  0  0     4  2  0     0  0  0     2  3  0     1  0  0
Bears               3  4  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  3  0     2  5  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     1  2  0
Bengals             0  2  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     2  4  0     0  2  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     3  3  0
Browns              2  1  0     1  2  0     1  2  0     2  1  0     2  1  0     1  2  0     0  3  0     3  0  0
Cowboys             5  1  0     1  0  0     4  0  0     0  1  0     4  2  0     1  0  0     3  1  0     0  1  0
Broncos             5  0  0     1  0  0     1  2  0     0  3  0     4  0  1     1  0  0     1  2  0     0  3  0
Lions               1  3  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     2  4  0     1  3  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     5  1  0
Packers             2  0  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     2  4  0     1  1  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     2  4  0
Oilers              3  2  0     0  0  0     3  2  0     1  1  0     2  3  0     0  0  0     3  2  0     2  0  0
Colts               0  2  0     3  2  0     0  0  0     2  3  0     0  2  0     3  2  0     0  0  0     2  3  0
Chiefs              4  1  0     1  0  0     3  0  0     0  3  0     3  2  0     1  0  0     2  1  0     1  1  1
Raiders             3  1  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     0  4  0     3  1  0     1  1  0     1  1  0     0  4  0
Rams                2  1  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     1  5  0     2  1  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     4  2  0
Dolphins            4  1  0     0  1  0     3  1  0     1  1  0     2  3  0     0  1  0     2  2  0     1  1  0
Vikings             4  1  0     0  1  0     3  0  0     2  1  0     1  4  0     1  0  0     3  0  0     2  1  0
Patriots            0  1  0     1  4  0     0  0  0     1  5  0     0  1  0     3  2  0     0  0  0     2  4  0
Saints              5  0  0     0  1  0     2  0  0     2  2  0     3  2  0     0  1  0     2  0  0     4  0  0
Jets                2  0  0     1  3  0     0  3  0     0  3  0     1  1  0     2  2  0     0  3  0     0  2  1
Giants              3  1  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     2  3  0     2  2  0     0  2  0     0  1  0     2  3  0
Eagles              5  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     1  3  0     3  2  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     2  2  0
Cardinals           0  0  0     2  3  0     0  0  0     1  6  0     0  0  0     3  2  0     0  0  0     3  3  1
Steelers            3  0  0     2  0  0     1  2  0     3  1  0     2  1  0     2  0  0     1  2  0     3  1  0
Chargers            4  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     2  3  0     4  1  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     3  2  0
49ers               4  1  0     0  0  0     6  1  0     0  0  0     1  4  0     0  0  0     5  2  0     0  0  0
Seahawks            0  1  0     1  4  0     0  0  0     1  5  0     0  1  0     3  1  1     0  0  0     2  4  0
Buccaneers          2  2  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     1  5  0     2  2  0     1  1  0     0  0  0     4  2  0
Redskins            5  1  0     0  0  0     2  2  0     0  2  0     3  3  0     0  0  0     0  3  1     0  2  0
31.358early bowl lineHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceMon Dec 07 1992 11:3335
31.359NFL week 15HBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceTue Dec 08 1992 11:0119
31.360nfl recordsHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceThu Dec 10 1992 21:5232
from CAFEIN::POOL_92
                                    Straight Up                                   Against Spread
                           Home                    Away                    Home                    Away
                   Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog
Falcons             5  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     0  6  0     2  2  2     0  1  0     0  0  0     3  3  0
Bills               5  2  0     0  0  0     3  2  0     1  0  0     4  3  0     0  0  0     2  3  0     1  0  0
Bears               3  4  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     0  4  0     2  5  0     0  0  0     1  1  0     1  3  0
Bengals             0  2  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     2  5  0     0  2  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     3  4  0
Browns              3  1  0     1  2  0     1  2  0     2  1  0     3  1  0     1  2  0     0  3  0     3  0  0
Cowboys             5  1  0     1  0  0     5  0  0     0  1  0     4  2  0     1  0  0     3  2  0     0  1  0
Broncos             5  0  0     1  1  0     1  2  0     0  3  0     4  0  1     2  0  0     1  2  0     0  3  0
Lions               1  3  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     2  5  0     1  3  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     5  2  0
Packers             3  0  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     2  4  0     2  1  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     2  4  0
Oilers              4  2  0     0  0  0     3  2  0     1  1  0     3  3  0     0  0  0     3  2  0     2  0  0
Colts               0  2  0     3  2  0     0  0  0     3  3  0     0  2  0     3  2  0     0  0  0     3  3  0
Chiefs              4  1  0     1  0  0     3  1  0     0  3  0     3  2  0     1  0  0     2  2  0     1  1  1
Raiders             3  1  0     2  1  0     1  1  0     0  4  0     3  1  0     2  1  0     1  1  0     0  4  0
Rams                2  1  0     1  2  0     1  0  0     1  5  0     2  1  0     1  2  0     1  0  0     4  2  0
Dolphins            4  1  0     0  1  0     3  1  0     1  2  0     2  3  0     0  1  0     2  2  0     1  2  0
Vikings             4  1  0     0  1  0     3  0  0     2  2  0     1  4  0     1  0  0     3  0  0     2  2  0
Patriots            0  2  0     1  4  0     0  0  0     1  5  0     0  2  0     3  2  0     0  0  0     2  4  0
Saints              6  0  0     0  1  0     2  0  0     2  2  0     3  3  0     0  1  0     2  0  0     4  0  0
Jets                2  0  0     1  3  0     0  3  0     1  3  0     1  1  0     2  2  0     0  3  0     1  2  1
Giants              3  1  0     0  3  0     0  1  0     2  3  0     2  2  0     0  3  0     0  1  0     2  3  0
Eagles              6  0  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     1  3  0     4  2  0     0  0  0     1  2  0     2  2  0
Cardinals           0  0  0     2  4  0     0  0  0     1  6  0     0  0  0     3  3  0     0  0  0     3  3  1
Steelers            4  0  0     2  0  0     1  2  0     3  1  0     2  2  0     2  0  0     1  2  0     3  1  0
Chargers            4  1  0     1  1  0     1  0  0     2  3  0     4  1  0     1  1  0     1  0  0     3  2  0
49ers               5  1  0     0  0  0     6  1  0     0  0  0     2  4  0     0  0  0     5  2  0     0  0  0
Seahawks            0  1  0     1  4  0     0  0  0     1  6  0     0  1  0     3  1  1     0  0  0     3  4  0
Buccaneers          2  2  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     1  5  0     2  2  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     4  2  0
Redskins            5  1  0     0  0  0     3  2  0     0  2  0     3  3  0     0  0  0     1  3  1     0  2  0
31.361NFL week 16HBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceTue Dec 15 1992 13:4019
31.362nfl recordsHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceTue Dec 15 1992 14:0332
from CAFEIN::POOL_92:
                                    Straight Up                                   Against Spread
                           Home                    Away                    Home                    Away
                   Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog
Falcons             5  1  0     0  1  0     0  0  0     1  6  0     2  2  2     0  1  0     0  0  0     4  3  0
Bills               6  2  0     0  0  0     3  2  0     1  0  0     4  4  0     0  0  0     2  3  0     1  0  0
Bears               3  4  0     1  0  0     1  1  0     0  4  0     2  5  0     1  0  0     1  1  0     1  3  0
Bengals             0  2  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     2  6  0     0  2  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     3  5  0
Browns              3  1  0     1  2  0     1  3  0     2  1  0     3  1  0     1  2  0     0  4  0     3  0  0
Cowboys             5  1  0     1  0  0     5  0  0     0  2  0     4  2  0     1  0  0     3  2  0     0  1  1
Broncos             5  0  0     1  1  0     1  2  0     0  4  0     4  0  1     2  0  0     1  2  0     1  3  0
Lions               1  3  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     2  5  0     1  3  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     5  2  0
Packers             3  0  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     3  4  0     2  1  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     3  4  0
Oilers              4  3  0     0  0  0     3  2  0     1  1  0     3  4  0     0  0  0     3  2  0     2  0  0
Colts               0  2  0     3  2  0     0  0  0     4  3  0     0  2  0     3  2  0     0  0  0     4  3  0
Chiefs              5  1  0     1  0  0     3  1  0     0  3  0     3  3  0     1  0  0     2  2  0     1  1  1
Raiders             3  1  0     2  1  0     1  1  0     0  5  0     3  1  0     2  1  0     1  1  0     0  5  0
Rams                2  1  0     1  3  0     1  0  0     1  5  0     2  1  0     1  3  0     1  0  0     4  2  0
Dolphins            5  1  0     0  1  0     3  1  0     1  2  0     3  3  0     0  1  0     2  2  0     1  2  0
Vikings             4  1  0     0  2  0     3  0  0     2  2  0     1  4  0     2  0  0     3  0  0     2  2  0
Patriots            0  2  0     1  4  0     0  0  0     1  6  0     0  2  0     3  2  0     0  0  0     3  4  0
Saints              6  0  0     0  1  0     3  0  0     2  2  0     3  3  0     0  1  0     3  0  0     4  0  0
Jets                2  1  0     1  3  0     0  3  0     1  3  0     1  2  0     2  2  0     0  3  0     1  2  1
Giants              3  1  0     0  3  0     0  1  0     2  4  0     2  2  0     0  3  0     0  1  0     2  4  0
Eagles              6  0  0     0  0  0     2  2  0     1  3  0     4  2  0     0  0  0     1  3  0     2  2  0
Cardinals           1  0  0     2  4  0     0  0  0     1  6  0     1  0  0     3  3  0     0  0  0     3  3  1
Steelers            4  0  0     2  0  0     1  3  0     3  1  0     2  2  0     2  0  0     1  3  0     3  1  0
Chargers            5  1  0     1  1  0     1  0  0     2  3  0     5  1  0     1  1  0     1  0  0     3  2  0
49ers               5  1  0     0  0  0     7  1  0     0  0  0     2  4  0     0  0  0     5  3  0     0  0  0
Seahawks            0  1  0     1  5  0     0  0  0     1  6  0     0  1  0     4  1  1     0  0  0     3  4  0
Buccaneers          2  3  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     1  5  0     2  3  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     4  2  0
Redskins            6  1  0     0  0  0     3  2  0     0  2  0     3  3  1     0  0  0     1  3  1     0  2  0
31.363latest NFL week 16HBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceWed Dec 16 1992 13:5321
31.364ROCK::MURPHYWed Dec 16 1992 16:369
31.365Elway to startHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceThu Dec 17 1992 19:024
Yessir. Big Bad John will start. Without him, Danny Sheridan wouldn't set
a line.

TTom
31.366compleat bowl linesHBAHBA::HAASGandhi Cactus JuiceThu Dec 17 1992 19:3035
31.367NFL week 17HBAHBA::HAASA Log of EffortTue Dec 22 1992 19:0319
31.368NFL recordsHBAHBA::HAASA Log of EffortTue Dec 22 1992 19:0432
from CAFEIN::POOL_92
                                    Straight Up                                   Against Spread
                           Home                    Away                    Home                    Away
                   Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog    Favorite    Underdog
Falcons             5  1  0     0  2  0     0  0  0     1  6  0     2  2  2     0  2  0     0  0  0     4  3  0
Bills               6  2  0     0  0  0     3  2  0     2  0  0     4  4  0     0  0  0     2  3  0     2  0  0
Bears               3  4  0     1  0  0     1  1  0     0  5  0     2  5  0     1  0  0     1  1  0     1  4  0
Bengals             1  2  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     2  6  0     1  2  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     3  5  0
Browns              3  1  0     1  3  0     1  3  0     2  1  0     3  1  0     1  3  0     0  4  0     3  0  0
Cowboys             5  1  0     1  0  0     6  0  0     0  2  0     4  2  0     1  0  0     4  2  0     0  1  1
Broncos             6  0  0     1  1  0     1  2  0     0  4  0     4  1  1     2  0  0     1  2  0     1  3  0
Lions               2  3  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     2  5  0     2  3  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     5  2  0
Packers             4  0  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     3  4  0     3  1  0     2  2  0     0  0  0     3  4  0
Oilers              4  3  0     0  0  0     4  2  0     1  1  0     3  4  0     0  0  0     4  2  0     2  0  0
Colts               1  2  0     3  2  0     0  0  0     4  3  0     0  2  1     3  2  0     0  0  0     4  3  0
Chiefs              5  1  0     1  0  0     3  2  0     0  3  0     3  3  0     1  0  0     2  3  0     1  1  1
Raiders             3  2  0     2  1  0     1  1  0     0  5  0     3  2  0     2  1  0     1  1  0     0  5  0
Rams                2  1  0     1  3  0     1  0  0     1  6  0     2  1  0     1  3  0     1  0  0     4  3  0
Dolphins            6  1  0     0  1  0     3  1  0     1  2  0     3  4  0     0  1  0     2  2  0     1  2  0
Vikings             4  1  0     0  2  0     3  0  0     3  2  0     1  4  0     2  0  0     3  0  0     3  2  0
Patriots            0  2  0     1  4  0     0  0  0     1  7  0     0  2  0     3  2  0     0  0  0     3  5  0
Saints              6  1  0     0  1  0     3  0  0     2  2  0     3  4  0     0  1  0     3  0  0     4  0  0
Jets                2  1  0     1  3  0     0  3  0     1  4  0     1  2  0     2  2  0     0  3  0     2  2  1
Giants              3  1  0     1  3  0     0  1  0     2  4  0     2  2  0     1  3  0     0  1  0     2  4  0
Eagles              7  0  0     0  0  0     2  2  0     1  3  0     5  2  0     0  0  0     1  3  0     2  2  0
Cardinals           1  0  0     2  4  0     0  0  0     1  7  0     1  0  0     3  3  0     0  0  0     3  3  2
Steelers            4  1  0     2  0  0     1  3  0     3  1  0     2  3  0     2  0  0     1  3  0     3  1  0
Chargers            5  1  0     1  1  0     1  0  0     3  3  0     5  1  0     1  1  0     1  0  0     4  2  0
49ers               6  1  0     0  0  0     7  1  0     0  0  0     2  5  0     0  0  0     5  3  0     0  0  0
Seahawks            0  1  0     1  5  0     0  0  0     1  7  0     0  1  0     4  1  1     0  0  0     4  4  0
Buccaneers          2  3  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     1  6  0     2  3  0     1  2  0     0  0  0     5  2  0
Redskins            6  1  0     0  0  0     3  2  0     0  3  0     3  3  1     0  0  0     1  3  1     0  3  0
31.369latest bowls linesHBAHBA::HAASA Log of EffortTue Dec 29 1992 12:4731
31.370wild card linesHBAHBA::HAASA Log of EffortTue Dec 29 1992 13:097
31.371METSNY::francusMets in '93Tue Dec 29 1992 14:015
Shows how close the first round playoff teams are to one another.
Rule of thumb is home field in football is worth 3 points. All the
lines are around that range.

The Crazy Met
31.372waiting for QBsHBAHBA::HAASA Log of EffortTue Dec 29 1992 15:166
The oddsmakers withheld the lines on the San Diego gama and the Buffalo
game to see what the status of the QBs were. Now that it looks like
Humphrey might play and Kelly definitely won't play, they decided to give
everyone essentially the standard home court spread. 

TTom
31.373divisional playoffsHBAHBA::HAASA Log of EffortTue Jan 05 1993 13:377