Conference 7.286::sports_91

    Anyone have any current standings?  (At least ECAC and Hockey (L)east)
    
    
    Anyone know if RPI plays at Lowell on Friday or Saturday next weekend?
    I think it's Saturday, but I wanted to double check...
    
    _Walt

    Walt, since the standings are in the Globe on Tuesdays and since the
    last 2 Tuesdays have been holidays, I haven't posted them.  I'll try to
    do so on the 8th.
    
    John

    ECAC
    --------------------------------------------------------------------
                        W     L     T    Pts     GF     GA
    --------------------------------------------------------------------
    Harvard             8     2     0    16      74     33
    St. Lawrence        6     2     1    13      41     35
    Cornell             5     1     2    12      37     25
    RPI                 6     2     0    12      46     31
    Clarkson            5     3     1    11      42     38
    Vermont             4     3     1     9      28     28
    Yale                4     3     1     9      33     31
    Princeton           3     6     0     6      41     40
    Colgate             2     4     2     6      31     38
    Army                1     6     2     4      23     37
    Brown               1     6     1     3      20     44
    Dartmouth           0     7     1     1      16     52
    
    Hockey East
    --------------------------------------------------------------------
                        W     L     T    Pts     GF     GA
    --------------------------------------------------------------------
    Boston U.           6     1     1    13      43     20
    Boston Coll.        6     2     0    12      43     34
    Maine               4     3     0     8      33     26
    Merrimack           4     3     0     8      32     39
    New Hampshire       4     3     0     8      28     22
    Providence          3     4     1     7      39     37
    Lowell              2     7     1     5      32     53
    Northeastern        1     7     1     3      37     56

RPI split this weekend, facing Cornell and Colgate at home.  They won
the Friday game, I just can't remember who played when.

The Lowell game is Saturday (at least that's what the Globe said).

Mike

    Let's see, that would make them 7-3... notbad.
    
    Does Hah-vud REALLY have 74 goals? Wow!
    

    Hockey East
    
    BC		8-2-0	16-5-0
    BU		7-1-2	14-5-2
    Maine	5-3-1	18-5-2
    Prov	4-4-1	14-4-1
    UNH		4-5-1	15-6-1
    Merrimack	4-5-0	10-9-1
    Lowell	2-7-1	5-14-1
    NU		1-8-2	4-15-2
    
    ECAC
    
    Cornell	8-2-2	9-4-2
    St Lawrence	8-2-1	11-7-1
    Yale	8-3-1	9-4-1
    Harvard	8-6-0	8-8-0
    Clarkson	7-3-1	13-5-1
    RPI		7-3-0	11-7-0
    Vermont	5-4-1	9-8-1
    Brown	4-6-2	4-9-3
    Colgate	3-6-3	9-7-3
    Princeton	4-6-1	5-11-1
    Army	1-10-2	4-11-3
    Dartmouth	0-10-2	1-13-2
    
    CCHA	
    
    Lake Sup	17-2-3	20-3-3
    Michigan	15-4-3	18-5-3
    Ferris St	16-5-5	16-5-5
    Mich St	9-7-4	12-10-4
    W Michigan	9-9-2	12-11-3
    Bowling Gr	9-11-2	12-11-3
    Ohio State	6-13-3	8-16-3
    Ill-Chi	4-17-1	6-17-1
    Miami (O)	2-15-3	4-18-3
    
    WCHA standings not listed in today's Globe.
    
    John
    

    Let's see, general news around the Hockey East....
    
    Last weekend (1/11, 1/12() Clarkson and St. Lawrence made a trip down
    here to play BC and BU. Neither one of them showed up at Conte Forum as
    both of them were blown out by BC. Three late goals by Clarkson made it
    respectable (8-5), but all in all, neither ECAC team was worth the
    gasoline to get them here. In fact BC fell in the National rankings
    from 2nd to 3rd for their efforts over the weekend. (I know all you
    ECAC people are going to get in an uproar, but believe me, neither of 
    these teams were any good. RPI and Harvard are a lot better.)
    
    BU split with both teams, blowing out St. Lawrence, and just getting
    nipped by Clarkson after spotting them a 3-0 lead. BU had a goal, which
    would have made the score 4-4, called back. No question in my mind
    what would have happened, had the Terriers tied the score!
    
    BU took over the top spot in Hockey East beating UNH Tuesday night
    while Maine finally learned how to beat BC in Orono. A goal at the ten
    minute mark of the 3rd period stood up as Maine hung on to win 6-5.
    Maine's only losses last year at Alfond Arena were back-to-back jobs to
    BC.
    
    BU visits the unfriendly confines of Conte Forum tonight, before what
    is expected to be a sell-out (probably record) crowd. BC won the first 
    meeting between the two earlier this year.
    
    Maine arrives for the rubber match at Conte Forum at 2PM Sunday. Maine
    is 2-4-0 (1-4-0 against BC) in visits to the Forum. Their only victory 
    against BC was in 1989 on an overtime goal which won them the Hockey
    East Championship.
    
    It'll be a really good weekend for college hockey here in Boston. 
    
    

    After two the score is 2-4, BC leading BU.

    Hockey East
    
    BC		10-3-0		18-6-0
    BU		 8-2-2		15-6-2
    Maine	 7-4-1		20-6-2
    Providence	 6-4-1		16-4-1
    Merrimack	 5-6-1		11-10-1
    UNH		 4-7-1		15-8-1
    Lowell	 3-8-1		 7-15-1
    Northeastern 1-10-2		 4-17-2
    
    ECAC
    
    Cornell	 8-2-2		 9-4-2
    Clarkson	 8-3-1		14-5-1
    St Lawrence	 8-3-1		11-8-1
    Yale	 8-4-1		 9-5-1
    RPI		 8-4-0		13-7-0
    Harvard	 8-6-0		 8-8-0
    Vermont	 6-5-1		10-9-1
    Brown	 5-6-2		 5-9-3
    Princeton	 5-6-1		 6-11-1
    Colgate	 3-6-3		 9-7-3
    Army	 1-11-2		 5-12-3
    Dartmouth	 0-10-2		 1-14-2
    
    CCHA
    
    Lake Sup	18-2-4		21-3-4
    Michigan	17-4-3		20-5-3
    Ferris	12-5-5		18-5-5
    Mich St	 9-8-5		12-11-5
    W Mich	10-10-2		13-12-3
    Bowling Gr	 9-13-2		11-15-2
    Ohio St	 8-13-3		10-16-3
    Ill-Chi	 5-18-1		 7-18-1
    Miami (O)	 2-17-3		 4-20-3
    
    WCHA
    
    Minnesota	18-3-3		21-4-3
    N Mich	18-3-3		21-5-3
    Wisconsin	15-6-1		19-6-2
    N Dakota	12-8-2		15-11-2
    St Cloud	 9-12-3		12-13-3
    Minn-Duluth	 6-13-5		 8-15-5
    Mich Tech	 6-14-2		10-16-3
    Colorado C	 5-18-1		 7-20-1
    Denver	 4-16-2		 5-21-2
    
    Polls are basically in agreement with minor variations:
    
    1.	Lake Superior
    2.	BC
    3.	N. Michigan
    4.	Michigan
    5.	Minnesota
    6.	Maine
    7.	BU
    8.	Wisconsin
    9.	Clarkson
    9.	Ferris State
    11.	Cornell
    12.	Providence
    13.	North Dakota
    14.	St Lawrence
    15.	Michigan State
    

    Tight ECAC battle.
    
    1 Cornell	 8-2-2		 9-4-2
    2 Clarkson	 8-3-1		14-5-1
    2 St Lawrence 8-3-1		11-8-1
    2 Yale	 8-4-1		 9-5-1
    5 RPI	 8-4-0		13-7-0
    5 Harvard	 8-6-0		 8-8-0
    
    
    6 Teams within 1 win of each other.  
    
    Hawk, Merrimack won because it was before they went into Hockey
    Least... ha ha...
    
    -Walt

    Does anyone have any news about the Colby White Mules.  The last I
    heard they were in the lower reaches of the ECAC...Div 2 or 3
    
    PJ
    

    >Does anyone have any news about the Colby White Mules.  The last I
    >heard they were in the lower reaches of the ECAC...Div 2 or 3
    
    Are you alum??  Don't find to many of us White Mules around here!!  Anyway,
Colby plays ECAC Div. 2 hockey (everything else except maybe skiing I believe 
is Div. 3) and although I'm not sure of their record, I don't believe they are 
having a stellar year.

Scott

>>    Are you alum?? 
    
    
    Who else would care about the Colby White Mules??!!
    
    David M. Strage
    Class of 1982
    
          
    P.S.  I think you'll also find another '82 alum in this conference...
    	  Come in ML....(aka DCARR)

    
    
>    Who else would care about the Colby White Mules??!!
    
True, true.  I'm Class of '89.

    Over the weekend..... 
    BC over BU, forgot the score even though I was there!
    Maine abused UNH in Durham.
    BC came from behind and beat Maine on Sunday 5-4 on a goal by Marc
    Behren with less than 3 minutes to go. 
    
    On Tuesday night BC travelled up to Hanover and lunched Dartmouth,
    although looking at the ECAC standings this is not out of the ordinary
    this year.
    
    BC plays back to back games with Lowell this weekend, before travelling
    to Cornell on Tuesday night.
    
    RE: Clarkson
    What I saw last Sunday was pitiful. The Knights looked out of it. It
    could be that BU beat them up on Friday night, but in all honesty I
    don't think they are Top 10 material. Prior to their game at Conte
    Forum they had been 4-1 against Hockey East opponents. I might be
    wrong, but I don't think that they had played Maine who is next to
    impossible to beat at home.
    
    Re: Standings
    In Hockey East it is still going to come down to which teams can deal
    with Maine, BC and BU. BC is 23-0  (13-0 this year) at home during the 
    regular season. I think their last home loss during the regular season 
    was against Michigan State in November 1989, or there abouts. 
    
    This year alone, BC has been involved in 12, one goal games including
    the game on Sunday against Maine. They are not a team for the faint of
    heart.
    
    More later.....
    Jerry 
    
    
    
    

    Standings will be posted tomorrow, but here's what I remember about the
    games this weekend:
    
    Hockey East:  Lowell and BC split a pair, each team winning at home. 
    Maine swept BU up at Orono.  Merrimack beat Northeastern and
    Providence.  UNH beat Northeastern.  Providence and UNH tied.
    
    ECAC:	Cornell beat Colgate and Dartmouth.  Colgate also beat
    Dartmouth.  Brown beat Yale.  Clarkson beat RPI and Vermont.  Vermont
    beat St Lawrence.  Don't know how RPI did against St Lawrence.  
    
    John

    Hockey East
    
    BC		11-4-0		20-7-0
    BU		 9-4-2		16-8-2
    Maine	 9-4-1		22-6-2
    Merrimack	 7-6-0		13-10-1
    Providence	 6-5-2		16-5-2
    UNH		 5-7-2		17-8-2
    Lowell	 4-10-1		 8-17-1
    Northeastern 1-12-2		 4-19-2
    
    ECAC
    
    Cornell	10-2-2		11-4-2
    Clarkson	10-3-1		16-5-1
    St Lawrence	 9-4-1		12-9-1
    Yale	 8-5-1		 9-7-1
    RPI		 8-6-0		13-9-0
    Harvard	 8-6-0		 8-8-0
    Vermont	 7-6-1		11-10-1
    Brown	 6-6-2		 6-9-3
    Princeton	 5-8-1		 6-11-1
    Colgate	 4-7-3		10-8-3
    Army	 1-11-2		 6-12-3
    Dartmouth	 0-12-2		 1-17-2
    
    CCHA
    
    Lake Sup	20-2-4		23-3-4
    Michigan	19-4-3		22-5-3
    Ferris	12-7-5		18-7-5
    W Mich	12-10-2		15-12-3
    Mich St	 9-10-5		12-13-5
    Bowling Gr	 9-15-2		11-17-2
    Ohio St	 8-13-3		10-17-3
    Ill-Chi	 7-18-1		 9-18-1
    Miami (O)	 2-19-3		 4-22-3
    
    WCHA
    
    Minnesota	20-3-3		23-4-3
    N Mich	20-3-3		23-5-3
    Wisconsin	15-8-1		19-8-2
    N Dakota	14-8-2		17-11-2
    Minn-Duluth	 8-13-5		10-15-5
    St Cloud	 9-14-3		12-15-3
    Mich Tech	 6-16-2		10-18-3
    Colorado C	 5-18-1		 8-20-1
    Denver	 4-18-2		 5-23-2
    
    Polls are basically in agreement with minor variations:
    
    1.	Lake Superior
    2.	Minnesota
    3.	N. Michigan
    4.	Michigan
    5.	BC
    6.	Maine
    7.	Clarkson
    8.	Cornell
    9.	BU
    10.	Ferris State
    11.	Wisconsin
    12.	North Dakota
    13.	Providence
    14.	St Lawrence
    15.	UNH
    
    

    PC and UNH play a much tougher non-league schedule than Merrimack does. 
    That's the only reason I can think of, Hawk.
    
    John

    
    Hey hawkster, didja get your copy of the results of the Merrimack
    College annual fund drive?  Funny, I must've missed your name.
    
    You won't find my name, but just between you and me, look for all the
    listings for "anonymous", and they're mine. ;^)
    
    One of the biggies ($15,000+ range) was one Carl Yastrzemski.  I wonder
    how much he gave to Notre Dame this year?
    
    Dickstah
    

    re: last few replys
    
    In the hockey notes file there is an interesting computer poll based on
    strength of schedule.  In that poll Providence is ranked 6th, UNH is
    ranked 12th, and Merrimack is 27th.
    
    Out of the 44 division 1 teams, Merrimack as the 39th toughest
    schedule. One of the easiest in the country.
    
    The hockey notes file is STKCSC::HOCKEY
    College Hockey is note 20.  The poll is in 20.46.  It is a few weeks
    old.  I would be interested in seeing an updated version.
    
    Dave (ULowell Chief fan)
    

    Let's see.....
    
    Tonight BC travels to Cornell. Given the questionable road record of
    the Eagles this year, I'm not sure what will happen. Last years game at
    Conte wasn't much of a game, but Cornell is murder at Linah.
    
    Merrimack makes the trip to Conte Forum Friday night for the third
    game of the series this season.  They have played to two, one goal 
    games this year in Andover.
    
    Beanpot match-ups next Monday are:
    BC - NU at 6. BC has abused the Huskies twice this year already, which
    means that Northeastern will no doubt find the meaning of life, and
    lunch the Eagles big time!
    
    BU - Harvard at 9. This one depends on which BU team shows up. If it's
    the one that went to Orono over the weekend, Harvard will cruise.
    
    Ought to be interesting.
    Jerry

    > Kind of in a
    > reassessing everything mode.  And, realistically, if I do muster up 
    > the energy and motivation to take the 15 more courses I need for a 
    > BS degree, I'll probably have to transfer to another school.
    
    Stick with it, Hawk!  I went through the same disillusionment after
    personal circumstances caused me to drop out of day school and resume
    at night, but I decided that if I was gonna get the degree that way I 
    was going to do it as quickly as possible to get it over with (agreed 
    on ULowell Continuing Ed; the bureaucracy there makes you want to pull 
    your hair out sometimes, especially that guy in charge of the
    engineering department).  I was taking 3-4 classes a semester and even 
    a couple in the summer over four years, and all I can say is that in 
    spite of the torture it really did pay off (couldn't have done it 
    without extreme patience from my wife, though).  Started getting 
    rewarded for what I was already doing at work, for starters...
    
    glenn
    

    Hey Hawk,
    	Depending on your reason for wanting the degree, like just to
    say ya got the paper as opposed to REALLY wanting to excell in
    obtaining knowledge and learning, ya might want to look into the
    Lesley College PMBI program.  
    	Tonight is my LAST class and when I deliver the project paper
    (hopefully by February-end), I'll have earned my BS in 57 weeks!
    Basically you need 57 credits (minimum) & 3 years full time work
    experience to enter.  Anything "C" or better they take.  Curriculum
    is 12 courses (modules), x * 5 WEEKS * = 39 credits.  Anything short
    of the required 128 is earned with life credit, clep tests, essays,
    DEC classes, military service, and many many more.  Class is 1x
    a week, 4 hours long.  Plan on at least 20 - 40 hours per week for
    homework & stuff.  ~90% of the instructors are real world workers
    moonlighting so they understand and they try to bring reality into
    the course content.
    If ya want more info, gimme a call & we can chat.  Same goes to
    anyone who has been putting off going back to school.
    
    On the humorous side, I'll be attending graduation exercises @BU
    in May and I have never seen nor even put one foot onto the Lesley
    Campus!  I'm told it's somewhere in Cambridge......
    
    

    Lesley College is just north of Harvard on Mass Ave in Cambridge.  In
    fact, it's practically next door to the Harvard Law School.
    
    In local action last night, BC beat Cornell and BU beat Northeastern.
    
    John

    Prediction on Beanpot
    
    BC over NU
    BU over Harvard
    
    BU over BC in final( Terriers always smoke Eagles in 'Pot)
    
    Are these games on NESN?
    I just found out there are only obstructed view seats left for both
    dates (4th and 11th) for 11 bucks.  Anyone willing to sell tickets
    with half-decent seats for the prelim games(the 4th)?
    
    Thanks,
    MikeL
    

    BC's Steve Heinze was injured last weekend during the Lowell series and
    missed last night. He is expected to miss Friday nights game with
    Merrimack and possible the Beanpot opener as well. 
    
    Dave Franzosa's goal with less than 8 minutes to play stood up as 
    BC beat Cornell 5-4 last night.

    re: .32
    
    Mike,
    
    The Beanpot is on NESN....

    Over the weekend....
    
   Dave Emma's hat trick and Marty McInnis' goal at the 19:48 mark of the
    second period stood up, as BC beat Merrimack 4-2 in a tune-up for the
    Beanpot. 
    
    UNH 5 BU 3, Maine many - NU Few, 
    Saturday night: Maine many - Merrimack few
    
    BC, BU and Maine all are within 3 points of one one another for the
    Hockey East lead.
    
    Friday night UNH comes to Conte Forum for the rubber match with BC.
    
    Hockey East Playoffs:
    There is a one game single elimination format this year for the
    quarter-finals. The previous best 2/3 format was dropped. BC will play
    at home on Wednesday, Feb. 27th.
    
    Hockey Fest 91: (Boston Garden)
    If memory serves me correctly:
    March 8th: Hockey East Semi-finals
    March 9th: ECAC Semi-finals
    March 10th: Hockey East Finals @ 5
                ECAC Finals @8  

    Not including last night's Beanpot, in which BC beat Northeastern 5-3 (NU 
    goalie Tom Cole made 51 saves and the game was tied after 2 periods) and BU
    had a 5-1 lead over Harvard after the first period, and then coasted 8-2.

    Hockey East
    
    BC		12-4-0		22-7-0
    Maine	11-4-1		24-6-2
    BU		10-5-2		17-9-2
    Providence	 7-5-2		17-5-2
    Merrimack	 7-8-0		13-12-1
    UNH		 6-7-2		18-8-2
    Lowell	 4-11-1		 9-18-1
    Northeastern 1-14-2		 4-21-2
    
    ECAC
    
    Cornell	12-2-2		13-5-2
    Clarkson	11-4-1		17-6-1
    St Lawrence	10-5-1		13-10-1
    RPI		10-6-0		15-9-0
    Harvard	10-6-0		10-8-0
    Yale	 8-6-2		 9-9-2
    Vermont	 7-7-2		11-11-2
    Brown	 7-7-2		 7-10-3
    Princeton	 6-9-1		 7-12-1
    Colgate	 4-9-3		10-10-3
    Army	 2-12-2		 7-13-3
    Dartmouth	 0-14-2		 1-19-2
    
    CCHA
    
    Lake Sup	22-2-4		25-3-4
    Michigan	21-4-3		24-5-3
    Ferris	13-8-5		19-8-5
    W Mich	14-10-2		17-12-3
    Mich St	10-11-5		13-14-5
    Bowling Gr	 9-15-2		11-19-2
    Ohio St	 8-15-3		10-19-3
    Ill-Chi	 7-20-1		 9-20-1
    Miami (O)	 2-21-3		 4-24-3
    
    WCHA
    
    Minnesota	20-4-4		23-5-4
    N Mich	20-3-3		25-5-3
    Wisconsin	16-9-1		20-9-2
    N Dakota	15-9-2		18-12-2
    St Cloud	11-14-3		14-15-3
    Minn-Duluth	 9-13-6		11-15-6
    Mich Tech	 8-16-2		12-18-3
    Colorado C	 5-20-1		 9-22-1
    Denver	 4-20-2		 5-25-2
    
    Polls are basically in agreement with minor variations:
    
    1.	Lake Superior
    2.	N. Michigan
    3.	Michigan
    4.	BC
    5.	Maine
    6.  Minnesota
    7.	Cornell
    8.	Clarkson
    9.	BU
    10.	Wisconsin
    11.	North Dakota
    12.	Ferris State
    13.	Providence
    14.	St Lawrence
    15.	UNH
    15. Western Michigan
    

    Beanpot History:
    
    Year	Title		MVP (all from winning school)
    
    1953	Harvard		Walt Greeley
    1954	BC		Bob Babine
    1955	Harvard		Bill Cleary
    1956	BC		James Tiernan
    1957	BC		Joe Celeta
    1958	BU		Bill Sullivan
    1959	BC		James Logue
    1960	Harvard		Bob Bland
    1961	BC		Bill Hogan
    1962	Harvard		Gene Kinasewich
    1963	BC		Bill Hogan
    1964	BC		John Cunniff
    1965	BC		John Cunniff
    1966	BU		Tom Ross
    1967	BU		Herb Wakabayashi
    1968	BU		Jim McCann
    1969	Harvard		Joe Cavanagh
    1970	BU		Mike Hyndman
    1971	BU		Steve Stirling
    1972	BU		John Danby, Dan Brady
    1973	BU		Vic Stanfield
    1974	Harvard		Randy Roth
    1975	BU		Vic Stanfield
    1976	BC		Paul Skidmore
    1977	Harvard		Brian Petrovek
    1978	BU		Jack O'Callahan
    1979	BU		Daryl MacLeod
    1980	Northeastern	Dave Archambault
    1981	Harvard		Wade Lau
    1982	BU		Tom O'Regan
    1983	BC		Bob Sweeney
    1984	Northeastern	Tim Marshall
    1985	Northeastern	Bruce Racine
    1986	BU		Terry Talliefer
    1987	BU		Mike Kelfer
    1988	Northeastern	Bruce Racine
    1989	Harvard		Lane MacDonald
    1990	BU		Dave Tomlinson
    
    Prior to last night, here are the all time standings:
    
    Team	W-L	Pct	GF	GA	1st	2nd	3rd	4th
    
    BU		50-26	.658	368	276	15	15	 5	 3
    BC		43-33	.566	338	296	10	 8	15	 5
    Harvard	39-37	.513	338	301	 9	11	10	 8
    NU		20-56	.263	248	419	 4	 4	 8	22
    
    BU is 15-8 vs BC, 18-11 vs Harvard and 17-7 vs Northeastern
    BC is 13-11 vs Harvard and 22-7 vs Northeastern
    Harvard is 17-6 vs Northeastern
    
    John
        

    The best thing that can happen nexted Monday is for BU to win again.
    That way Len "Cementhaid" Ceglarski can crown his career of being the
    biggest choke artist in the history of college hockey.  Year in, year
    out, Cementhaid's teams field a who's who in college hockey, and year
    in and year out, they totally choke in the big ones.  He's never one
    anything, despite having the best talent.  2 Beanpots in the last 23
    years.  0 Ncaa champeenships.  He makes Dean Smith look like JOhn
    Wooden.
    
    JD

    The only problem with your last reply is the fact that Lenny hasn't
    been the BC coach for the last 23 years. One thing is for
    sure though....The only place Northeastern is going after February 27th 
    is HOME for an expended Spring Break.....8 months worth. I'll send you
    a program...They'll probably take the pipe for the fifth time this year
    to BC. :-) 
    
    We'll see what happens Monday night...BC and BU are probably destined
    to play 5 times this year...The only one that really matters is the one
    on either March 8th or March 10th....assuming of course BU learns how
    to beat Maine :-).
    
    Enjoy
    Jerry

    I'll stand by my prediction that BU will beat BC in the finals.
    Watching BU alums and current players talking about "owning" the
    Garden and believing that this tournament is always theirs for the
    taking confirms my belief that the Terriers have always played this
    tournament as if they were the favorite,no matter what the talent
    level of their team. If you look back in history(recent,i.e last
    20 yrs.) it has been a rare occasion that any team has had a 
    superior edge in talent over BU. Year in and year out BU consistently
    fields a good,talented team. Case in point; BU has never played in
    the consolation game. The only team that I thought had a superior
    edge in talent over BU was the Harvard team of a couple of years ago
    that won the NCAA's. And they still were in a dogfight with BU in
    the finals( 9-6).
    	I disagree that Ceglarski is a choker. I don't think he is as
    good as recruiter or coach as Jackie Parker,that doesn't mean he
    chokes. I believe his teams rise to the occasion because of their
    talent and his coaching (parker's that is). I think that the"greatness"
    of recent BC teams have been overemphasized by the pro-BC Boston media.
    BU's teams have equalled or been better than BC's consistently since
    Parker has been at BU( which includes Snooks Kelley as well as 
    Ceglarski).BC has had some darn good teams,but never a great one.
    
    I look for a great game Monday,though,as I think the teams THIS year
    are almost evenly matched. If Heinze is back for BC,it will be a
    "pick-em". I believe the difference will be BU's combination of size
    and speed,especially on "d".
    
    BU 5, BC 3.
    
    
    MikeL
    
    BTW, Ceglarski was quoted in this morning's Globe, I believe, that
    he felt that at the beginning of the year, that BU would be the
    best team in the country. I think they(BU) are starting to round
    into form.
    
      

    BU has played in the consolation game only 8 times.  They are therefore
    31-8 in first round games.
    
    Ceglarski and Parker started at their respective schools at the same
    time, if I'm not mistaken.  Jack Kelley's last year at BU was 1971-72
    before he left to become head coach and GM of the Whalers.  He was
    replaced by Leon Abbott.  Abbott had some trouble with recruiting
    violations or some such (I don't remember the details) and was replaced
    by Parker either during that season, between the seasons or during the
    73-74 season.  Ceglarski took over at BC after the 72-73 season.
    
    John

    Thanks John,
    Me memory ain't as sharp as it used to be. I thought that Parker
    had preceded Ceglarski by a year or two.  I remember going to the
    Garden for the Beanpot as well as the ECAC tournaments in the late
    60's and early 70's.  As far as the ECAC's it seemed that either
    BU or BC was always there with Cornell being a fixture.  I recall
    that occasionally Ceglarski brought in some competetive Clarkson
    teams. Best highlights were the Cornell crowd going nuts when some
    fan would do a little rap on the cowbell as the Big Red came on
    the ice.
    
    Them were the days.
    
    MikeL
    
    
    

    Mike
    I can't disagree with you about the BU attitude. They certainly have
    a good one. I think they were ranked #1 preseason for both Hockey East
    and the preseason pole.
    
    I agree with your assessment of the "keys" to the game. I'd further add
    that the game will ride on which BU defense shows up. If it was the one
    that went to Maine two weeks ago, or showed up at Conte Forum on
    Jan. 18th, it could be a long night. On the other side, if Ron
    Pascucci(sp) and Joe Cleary don't figure it out, it'll be a long night
    the other way. I think that NU scored all three of it's goals while
    they were paired on defense. 
    
    It really should be fun.
    
    Tonight should tell a lot for BC. UNH travels to Conte for the rubber
    match of the season. It's hard to say what will happen here. My guess
    is, that it'll be another one goal affair.
    
    Jerry 

    Not including last night's Beanpot, in which NU beat Harvard 5-0 and in
    which BU beat BC 8-4.  BU scored 4 goals in the last 7:42 of the 2nd period.
    BU's Tony Amonte, who scored a hat trick, was named MVP.

    Hockey East
    
    BC		13-4-0		24-7-0
    Maine	12-5-1		25-7-2
    BU		11-5-2		19-9-2
    Providence	 9-6-2		19-6-2
    UNH		 7-8-2		19-9-2
    Merrimack	 7-10-0		13-14-1
    Lowell	 4-13-1		 9-20-1
    Northeastern 2-14-2		 5-22-2
    
    ECAC
    
    Cornell	13-2-3		14-5-3
    Clarkson	13-4-1		19-6-1
    St Lawrence	12-5-1		15-10-1
    RPI		12-6-0		17-9-0
    Harvard	10-6-2		10-9-2
    Vermont	 9-7-2		13-11-2
    Yale	 8-8-2		 9-11-2
    Brown	 7-9-2		 7-12-3
    Colgate	 5-9-4		11-10-4
    Princeton	 6-11-1		 7-14-1
    Army	 2-14-2		 7-15-3
    Dartmouth	 0-16-2		 1-21-2
    
    CCHA
    
    Lake Sup	24-2-4		27-3-4
    Michigan	23-4-3		26-5-3
    Ferris	14-9-5		20-9-5
    W Mich	14-12-2		17-14-3
    Mich St	12-11-5		15-14-5
    Bowling Gr	10-16-2		12-20-2
    Ohio St	 8-17-3		10-21-3
    Ill-Chi	 7-20-1		11-20-1
    Miami (O)	 2-23-3		 4-26-3
    
    WCHA
    
    N Mich	21-3-4		26-5-4
    Minnesota	20-5-5		23-6-5
    Wisconsin	18-9-1		23-9-2
    N Dakota	16-10-2		19-13-2
    St Cloud	12-15-3		15-16-3
    Minn-Duluth	 9-13-6		13-15-6
    Mich Tech	 9-17-2		13-19-3
    Denver	 5-21-2		 6-26-2
    Colorado C	 5-22-1		 9-24-1
    
    Polls are basically in agreement with minor variations:
    
    1.	Lake Superior
    2.	N. Michigan
    3.	BC
    4.	Michigan
    5.	Maine
    6.  Minnesota
    7.	Clarkson
    8.	Cornell
    9.	BU
    10.	Wisconsin
    11.	North Dakota
    12.	Providence
    13.	Ferris State
    14.	UNH
    15. Western Michigan
    15. St Lawrence
    

     I LOVE IT, I LOVE IT, I LOVE.
    
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    
    LEN CEMENTHAID CEGLASKI AND THE IGGLES DO ANOTHER MASSIVE CHOKE JOB.
    
    HAW HAW HAW.
    
    Ceglaski is without a doubt, the most overrated college hockey coach of
    all time.  The guy caint coach himself out of a paper bag.  He's
    squandered more talent than a 5th avenue pimp.  
    
    This is rich.  Lenny is getting the Eagles warmed up for the NCAA
    choke.
    
    JD

    Gee...did anybody bother going to watch the other game last
    night....which featured two other Boston teams that have reservations
    for an early spring break.
    
    Hats off to BU..they played well, especially at the end of the second
    period where they scored 3 goals in the last 5 minutes to break a 4-4
    game. 
    
    Remaining BC games:
    at Lowell 2/15 (rubber match of series)
    Northeastern 2/17 (the fourth thrashing on the way)
    at Providence 2/20 (BC already won the season series)
    at BU 2/23 (BC has already won the season series; game will probably
    vault Maine into the #1 tournament seed, and save Northeastern from
    the anguish of playing BC for the fifth time this year)
    
    Quarterfinal
    at BC 2/27 (Probably Lowell or Northeastern...either one doesn't
    matter)
    
    Semi-final 
    at Boston Garden 3/8
    Third seed/second seed
    Fourth Seed/First Seed                           

    Let's not overlook the big DU-Colorado College series this weekend to 
    determine who takes over the basement of the WCHA. :^)
    
    Joe          

    Weekend Hockey East Scores:
    
    BC 7 - Lowell 3
    BU over Providence
    Maine over Merrimack
    BC 10 - Northeastern 8 - Two late goals against BC's third string goalie
    made this one close. Tom Cole, who made 51 saves in the opening round of
    the Beanpot against BC, lasted less than 22 minutes of this one. BC
    ended its home schedule at 17-0. These included two wins each against
    Maine, BU and UNH, as well as single wins against Clarkson, St. Lawrence,
    Harvard, and Michigan. 
    
    BC needs a tie or a win in one of its last two games to win the regular
    season title. The game Wednesday night at Providence means a lot, as
    Providence is in a race with UNH for the last home ice spot. The Friars
    would rather not have to go up to Durham. 
    
    Upcoming games of interest:
    
    2/20 BC at Providence (Home ice for the Friars at stake here)
         BU at Northeastern 
    
    2/23 BC at BU (Could decide the  potential 3/8 match-ups  at Hockey
    		fest)
         Maine at UNH (Should BC falter, a must win for the Bears, on the
    	 	other side, UNH wants home ice).
    
    

	This doesn't include updates for the WCHA and the CCHA since those
    standings won't be in the paper until tomorrow.
    
    
    
    Hockey East
    						remaining games
    BC		15-4-0		26-8-0		@PC, @BU
    Maine	14-5-1		27-7-2		@UNH
    BU		12-5-2		21-9-2		@NU, BC
    Providence	 9-8-2		19-8-2		BC, NU
    UNH		 9-8-2		21-9-2		@Merrimack, Maine
    Merrimack	 7-12-0		13-16-1		UNH, Lowell
    Lowell	 4-15-1		 9-22-1		@Merrimack
    Northeastern 2-15-2		 6-23-2		BU, @PC

Comments:  PC and UNH will play each other in the first round and it looks
like Merrimack will finish 6th, Lowell 7th and NU 8th.  The first round is one
game, single elimination prior to the semifinals at Boston Garden the 2nd
weekend in March.
    
    ECAC
    
    Clarkson	15-4-1		21-6-1		@Harvard, @Dartmouth
    Cornell	14-3-3		15-6-3		RPI, Vermont
    St Lawrence	14-5-1		17-10-1		@Dartmouth, @Harvard
    RPI		13-7-0		18-10-0		@Cornell, @Colgate
    Harvard	11-7-2		11-11-2		Clarkson, St Lawrence
    Vermont	11-7-2		15-11-2		@Colgate, @Cornell
    Yale	 8-10-2		 9-13-2		@Princeton, @Army
    Brown	 8-10-2		 8-13-3		@Army, @Princeton
    Colgate	 7-9-4		13-10-4		Vermont, RPI
    Princeton	 6-13-1		 7-16-1		Yale, Brown
    Army	 2-16-2		 7-17-3		Brown, Yale
    Dartmouth	 0-18-2		 1-23-2		St Lawrence, Clarkson

Comments:  Dartmouth and Army are eliminated.  First round is 10 at 7 and 9 at
8, single game.  Then, first weekend of March is a 2-game series with mini-game
if necessary:  Lowest seed at 1st, 2nd lowest seed at 2nd, 6th at 3rd and 5th at
4th.
    
    CCHA
    
    Lake Sup	24-2-4		27-3-4		2 games at Western Michigan
    Michigan	23-4-3		26-5-3		non-league with 2 independents
    Ferris	14-9-5		20-9-5		2 games at Miami
    W Mich	14-12-2		17-14-3		2 games vs Lake Superior
    Mich St	12-11-5		15-14-5		2 games vs Illinois-Chicago
    Bowling Gr	10-16-2		12-20-2		home and home with Ohio State
    Ohio St	 8-17-3		10-21-3		home and home with Bowling Green
    Ill-Chi	 7-20-1		11-20-1		2 games at Michigan State
    Miami (O)	 2-23-3		 4-26-3		2 games vs Ferris State
    
    WCHA
    
    N Mich	21-3-4		26-5-4		2 games at Wisconsin
    Minnesota	20-5-5		23-6-5		2 games vs North Dakota
    Wisconsin	18-9-1		23-9-2		2 games vs Northern Michigan
    N Dakota	16-10-2		19-13-2		2 games at Minnesota
    St Cloud	12-15-3		15-16-3		2 games vs Alaska-Anchorage
    Minn-Duluth	 9-13-6		13-15-6		2 games vs Denver
    Mich Tech	 9-17-2		13-19-3		2 games at Colorado
    Denver	 5-21-2		 6-26-2		2 games at Minnesota-Duluth
    Colorado C	 5-22-1		 9-24-1		2 games vs Michigan Tech
    
    Polls are basically in agreement with minor variations:
    
    1.	Lake Superior
    2.	N. Michigan
    3.	BC
    4.	Michigan
    5.	Maine
    6.  Minnesota
    7.	Clarkson
    8.	Cornell
    9.	BU
    10.	Wisconsin
    11.	North Dakota
    12.	Providence
    13.	Ferris State
    14.	UNH
    15. Western Michigan
    15. St Lawrence
    

    Would not surprise me about Maine being ranked 4th. It depends which
    poll you believe.
    
    I think on the surface Maine is probably playing as well as anybody at
    the moment. How far Maine goes will depend on who they have to play on
    Friday night. They have been able to beat BU at will, but have only
    beaten BC twice in three years; once in overtime two years ago to win
    the Hockey East Championship, and once this year at Orono. 
    
    If I were a Black Bear fan, I'd want to see BC have to beat BU on 
    Friday night, and I'd, then, take my chances with the survivor 
    (BU, unless BC figures out what to do with their defense) on Sunday 
    afternoon. Maine, however, for the third year in a row, does not 
    control its own fate or its eventual opponent...BC does.
    
    This all assumes of course, that the favorites survive the
    quarter-final game on the 27th. Don't be surprised if one of the
    favorites gets lunched. It happens every year. 
    
    Should be interesting.....
    Jerry
    

    Hockey East
    						remaining games
    BC		15-4-0		26-8-0		@PC, @BU
    Maine	14-5-1		27-7-2		@UNH
    BU		12-5-2		21-9-2		@NU, BC
    Providence	 9-8-2		19-8-2		BC, NU
    UNH		 9-8-2		21-9-2		@Merrimack, Maine
    Merrimack	 7-12-0		13-16-1		UNH, Lowell
    Lowell	 4-15-1		 9-22-1		@Merrimack
    Northeastern 2-15-2		 6-23-2		BU, @PC

Comments:  PC and UNH will play each other in the first round and it looks
like Merrimack will finish 6th, Lowell 7th and NU 8th.  The first round is one
game, single elimination prior to the semifinals at Boston Garden the 2nd
weekend in March.
    
    ECAC
    
    Clarkson	15-4-1		21-6-1		@Harvard, @Dartmouth
    Cornell	14-3-3		15-6-3		RPI, Vermont
    St Lawrence	14-5-1		17-10-1		@Dartmouth, @Harvard
    RPI		13-7-0		18-10-0		@Cornell, @Colgate
    Harvard	11-7-2		11-11-2		Clarkson, St Lawrence
    Vermont	11-7-2		15-11-2		@Colgate, @Cornell
    Yale	 8-10-2		 9-13-2		@Princeton, @Army
    Brown	 8-10-2		 8-13-3		@Army, @Princeton
    Colgate	 7-9-4		13-10-4		Vermont, RPI
    Princeton	 6-13-1		 7-16-1		Yale, Brown
    Army	 2-16-2		 7-17-3		Brown, Yale
    Dartmouth	 0-18-2		 1-23-2		St Lawrence, Clarkson

Comments:  Dartmouth and Army are eliminated.  First round is 10 at 7 and 9 at
8, single game.  Then, first weekend of March is a 2-game series with mini-game
if necessary:  Lowest seed at 1st, 2nd lowest seed at 2nd, 6th at 3rd and 5th at
4th.
    
    CCHA
    
    Lake Sup	24-2-4		29-3-4		2 games at Western Michigan
    Michigan	24-5-3		27-6-3		non-league with 2 independents
    W Mich	16-12-2		19-14-3		2 games vs Lake Superior
    Ferris	14-11-5		20-11-5		2 games at Miami
    Mich St	13-12-5		16-15-5		2 games vs Illinois-Chicago
    Bowling Gr	12-16-2		14-20-2		home and home with Ohio State
    Ohio St	 8-18-4		10-22-4		home and home with Bowling Green
    Ill-Chi	 8-20-2		12-20-2		2 games at Michigan State
    Miami (O)	 2-25-3		 4-28-3		2 games vs Ferris State
    
    WCHA
    
    N Mich	23-3-4		28-5-4		2 games at Wisconsin
    Minnesota	20-5-5		23-6-5		2 games vs North Dakota
    Wisconsin	19-9-2		24-9-3		2 games vs Northern Michigan
    N Dakota	18-10-2		21-13-2		2 games at Minnesota
    St Cloud	12-16-4		15-17-4		2 games vs Alaska-Anchorage
    Minn-Duluth	 9-15-6		13-17-6		2 games vs Denver
    Mich Tech	 9-19-2		13-21-3		2 games at Colorado
    Colorado C	 7-22-1		11-24-1		2 games vs Michigan Tech
    Denver	 5-23-2		 6-28-2		2 games at Minnesota-Duluth
    
    Polls are basically in agreement with minor variations:
    
    1.	Lake Superior
    2.	N. Michigan
    3.	BC
    3.	Maine
    5.	Michigan
    6.	BU
    7.  Minnesota
    8.	Clarkson
    9.	Wisconsin
    10.	Cornell
    11.	UNH
    12.	North Dakota
    12.	Providence
    14. Western Michigan
    15. St Lawrence
    15.	Ferris State
    

    Ok...
                        pts.
    1 Clarkson	15-4-1	 31	21-6-1		@Harvard, @Dartmouth
    2 Cornell	14-3-3	 31	15-6-3		RPI, Vermont
    3 SLU	14-5-1	 29	17-10-1		@Dartmouth, @Harvard
    4 RPI	13-7-0	 26	18-10-0		@Cornell, @Colgate
    5 Harvard	11-7-2	 24	11-11-2		Clarkson, St Lawrence
    6 Vermont	11-7-2	 24	15-11-2		@Colgate, @Cornell
    7 Yale	 8-10-2	 18	 9-13-2		@Princeton, @Army
    8 Brown	 8-10-2	 18	 8-13-3		@Army, @Princeton
    9 Colgate	 7-9-4	 18	13-10-4		Vermont, RPI
    10 Prin'ton	 6-13-1	 13	 7-16-1		Yale, Brown
    11 Army	 2-16-2	 6	 7-17-3		Brown, Yale
    12 Dartmouth 0-18-2	 2	 1-23-2		St Lawrence, Clarkson
    
    
    Anyone know how tiebreakers are figured out?  I know Harvard has the
    edge over RPI, if they tied, even though they split.  Any ideas why?
    Only spot settled is Princeton at 10 for the playoffs... should be
    an interesting weekend... all games affect the standings some how..
    
    -Walt
    

    Walt, 
    
    I don't know why Harvard would have the edge over RPI either.  One of
    the tie-breakers, after record against each other, is number of wins. 
    RPI would have the edge here because the only way Harvard and RPI could
    end up with the same record is for Harvard to sweep and RPI to tie both
    its games.
    
    In looking at the standings, Yale, Brown and Colgate will finish 7-9. 
    Clarkson, Cornell and St Lawrence have clinched home ice and RPI is in
    good shape.
    
    In Hockey East, other than the dog fight at the top, the standings are
    virtually cast in concrete.
    
    In the CCHA, the only real battle left is to decide 3rd, 4th and 5th
    because all other slots are set.  Ohio State and Illinois-Chicago are
    battling it out just to see where they go to get killed - Michigan or
    Lake Superior.
    
    In the WCHA, home ice is all decided with the only battle there being
    between Wisconsin and North Dakota to figure out who finishes 3rd or
    4th.  St Cloud is all set for 5th, Duluth and Tech are close for 6th
    and 7th, and all Denver and Colorado are battling for are the right to
    be clobbered by Northern Michigan.
    
    Hockey - winter's one true *REAL* college sport.
    
    John

    I don't know either John.  I just remember hearing the Hah-vud
    announcers saying over and over Friday night "If Hahvud and RPI
    tie, Hah-vud wins the tiebreaker".  It wasn't a thing like goal
    differential or anything like that.  Hah-vud just would get it.  
    Don't know about a 3 way tie if UVM got involved.  Could it be 
    total goals or something like that?
    

    In Hockey East, the dates for the first round of the playoffs have been
    picked and apparently they're up to the individual schools.  BC will
    host February 27, BU will host February 28, the game between UNH and PC
    (wherever it is) will be March 1 and Maine will host March 2.
    
    Tonight in Hockey East sees BC at PC, BU at NU and UNH at Merrimack. 
    Games Saturday are BC at BU, Maine at UNH, NU at PC and Lowell at
    Merrimack.
    
    In the ECAC, the single games among seeds 7-10 are February 26.  Walt,
    the Globe also states that Harvard will beat out RPI for home ice if
    they end up tied but they didn't explain why.
    
    John

    In last night's action, BU beat NU, UNH beat Merrimack and Providence
    beat BC 3-2 on a goal with 1:30 remaining.
    
    NU is now guaranteed of finishing last.
    
    Home ice between PC and UNH remains unsettled.
    
    In games on Saturday, NU is at PC, Lowell at Merrimack, Maine at UNH
    and BC at BU.
    
    First place is up for grabs.  A win for BC means BC finishes
    first, Maine second and BU 3rd.  That would mean Merrimack at BU,
    Lowell at Maine and NU at BC in the first round.  A win for Maine
    coupled with a BC loss means Maine finishes first, BC second and BU
    3rd.  A loss for Maine and a BU win puts Maine in second.
    
    NU plays at Maine or BC, Merrimack plays at Maine or BU and Lowell
    plays at any one of the top 3 contenders (in what will almost certainly
    be Billy Riley's last game as Lowell coach).
    
    John   

Those Merry Midwestern Mayhem Makers (tm), the Big 10, are at it again.
Michigan hockey coach Red Berenson and Michigan State's Ron Mason have
been suspended one game by the CCHA because of a brawl in Saturday
night's game between the teams. 10 Spartan and 8 Wolverine players also
received a 1 game ban.

TTom

    Hockey East (Final Standings)
    						
    BC		16-5-0	32	27-9-0		
    Maine	15-5-1	31	28-7-2		
    BU		13-6-2	28	22-10-2		
    Providence	10-9-2	22	20-9-2		
    UNH		10-9-2	22	22-10-2		
    Merrimack	 7-14-0	14	13-18-1		
    Lowell	 5-15-1	11	10-22-1		
    Northeastern 3-16-2	 8	 7-24-2		

2/27	Northeastern at Boston College
2/28	Merrimack at Boston University
3/1	New Hampshire at Providence
3/2	Lowell at Maine
    
    ECAC (Final Standings)
    
    Clarkson	15-5-2	32	21-7-2
    Cornell	14-5-3	31	15-8-3
    St Lawrence	15-6-1	31	18-11-1
    Harvard	13-7-2	28	13-11-2
    RPI		14-8-0	28	19-11-0
    Vermont	12-8-2	26	16-12-2
    Colgate	 9-9-4	22	15-10-4
    Brown	 9-11-2	20	 9-14-3
    Yale	 9-11-2	20	10-14-2
    Princeton	 7-14-1	15	 8-17-1
    Army	 3-17-2	 8	 8-18-3
    Dartmouth	 0-19-3	 3	 1-24-3

2/26	Princeton at Colgate
	Yale at Brown

3/1 and 3/2

	RPI at Harvard
	Vermont at St Lawrence
	Lowest remaining seed at Clarkson
	Next-lowest remaining seed at Cornell
    
    CCHA (no final standings yet)
    
    Lake Sup	24-2-4	52	29-3-4
    Michigan	24-5-3	51	27-6-3
    W Mich	16-12-2	34	19-14-3
    Ferris	14-11-5	33	20-11-5
    Mich St	13-12-5	31	16-15-5
    Bowling Gr	12-16-2	26	14-20-2
    Ohio St	 8-18-4	20	10-22-4
    Ill-Chi	 8-20-2	18	12-20-2
    Miami (O)	 2-25-3	 7	 4-28-3
    
    WCHA (no final standings yet)
    
    N Mich	23-3-4	50	28-5-4
    Minnesota	20-5-5	45	23-6-5
    Wisconsin	19-9-2	40	24-9-3
    N Dakota	18-10-2	38	21-13-2
    St Cloud	12-16-4	28	15-17-4
    Minn-Duluth	 9-15-6	24	13-17-6
    Mich Tech	 9-19-2	20	13-21-3
    Colorado C	 7-22-1	15	11-24-1
    Denver	 5-23-2	12	 6-28-2
    
	No final polls yet
    
    1.	Lake Superior
    2.	N. Michigan
    3.	BC
    3.	Maine
    5.	Michigan
    6.	BU
    7.  Minnesota
    8.	Clarkson
    9.	Wisconsin
    10.	Cornell
    11.	UNH
    12.	North Dakota
    12.	Providence
    14. Western Michigan
    15. St Lawrence
    15.	Ferris State
    

    BU lost leads of 3-0 and 4-1 to BC as the Eagles win the regular
    season HockeY East crown. The record BU crowd saw Dave Fransoza's(sp)
    goal with 2:50 remaining stand up as the Eagles sweep the league series
    with the Terriers. Sandy Galluppo made 18 third period saves to get the
    win.
    
    The Eagles will now host the Northeastern Huskies. This will be the
    fifth game this year between the teams. BC has won them all. The Eagles
    are 17-0 at Kelly Rink this year. They are 5-2 lifetime at Kelly in 
    Hockey East play-off action.
    
    I would expect to see Sandy Galluppo in goal Wednesday night, although
    it is possible that Scott LeGrand will get the call. He is something
    like 19-0 at Kelly over the last two years. 
    
    Should be interesting.   

    Hockey East	(Final)
    						
    BC		16-5-0	32	27-9-0		
    Maine	15-5-1	31	28-7-2		
    BU		13-6-2	28	22-10-2		
    Providence	10-9-2	22	20-9-2		
    UNH		10-9-2	22	22-10-2		
    Merrimack	 7-14-0	14	13-18-1		
    Lowell	 5-15-1	11	10-22-1		
    Northeastern 3-16-2	 8	 7-24-2		

2/27	Northeastern at Boston College
2/28	Merrimack at Boston University
3/1	New Hampshire at Providence
3/2	Lowell at Maine
    
    ECAC	(Final)
    
    Clarkson	15-5-2	32	21-7-2
    Cornell	14-5-3	31	15-8-3
    St Lawrence	15-6-1	31	18-11-1
    Harvard	13-7-2	28	13-11-2
    RPI		14-8-0	28	19-11-0
    Vermont	12-8-2	26	16-12-2
    Colgate	 9-9-4	22	15-10-4
    Brown	 9-11-2	20	 9-14-3
    Yale	 9-11-2	20	10-14-2
    Princeton	 7-14-1	15	 8-17-1
    Army	 3-17-2	 8	 8-18-3
    Dartmouth	 0-19-3	 3	 1-24-3

2/26	Princeton at Colgate
	Yale at Brown

3/1 and 3/2

	RPI at Harvard
	Vermont at St Lawrence
	Lowest remaining seed at Clarkson
	Next-lowest remaining seed at Cornell
    
    CCHA (Final)
    
    Lake Sup	26-2-4	52	31-3-4
    Michigan	24-5-3	51	29-6-3
    Ferris	15-12-5	35	21-12-5
    W Mich	16-14-2	34	19-16-3
    Mich St	14-13-5	33	17-16-5
    Bowling Gr	13-17-2	28	15-21-2
    Ohio St	 9-19-4	22	11-23-4
    Ill-Chi	 9-21-2	20	13-21-2
    Miami (O)	 3-26-3	 9	 5-29-3
    
First Round:  	Illinois-Chicago at Lake Superior
		Ohio State at Michigan
		Bowling Green at Ferris State
		Michigan State at Western Michigan

    WCHA (Final)
    
    N Mich	25-3-4	54	30-5-4
    Minnesota	22-5-5	49	25-6-5
    Wisconsin	19-11-2	40	24-11-3
    N Dakota	18-12-2	38	21-15-2
    St Cloud	12-16-4	28	17-17-4
    Minn-Duluth	11-15-6	28	14-17-7
    Mich Tech	 9-21-2	20	13-23-3
    Colorado C	 9-22-1	19	13-24-1
    Denver	 5-25-2	12	 6-30-2
    
First Round:	Colorado College at Northern Michigan
		Michigan Tech at Minnesota
		Minnesota-Duluth at Wisconsin
		St Cloud St at North Dakota

	Final Poll:
    
    1.	Lake Superior
    2.	N. Michigan
    3.	BC
    4.	Maine
    5.	Michigan
    6.	BU
    6.  Minnesota
    8.	Clarkson
    9.	Wisconsin
    10.	Cornell
    11. Providence
    12.	UNH
    13.	North Dakota
    14. St Lawrence
    15.	Ferris State
    

     Interesting, the obvious prejudice that Hockey East teams are
     that superior to ECAC teams.  BU at 13-6-2 (22-10-2 overall)
     is ranked above both Clarkson and Cornell?  

     I find it hard to believe that the 3rd place Hockey East team
     is really better than the #1 and #2 ECAC team.

     -gary

    
    Gary, maybe it's because the Hockey East teams play a "tougher"
    schedule. They play teams from the CCHA and the WCHA as well as
    thier Hockey East foes. I do not follow the ECAC enough to know
    exactly but don't they just play a schedule within the ECAC?
    
    
    Steve

    Both the ECAC and Hockey East teams play roughly the same number of
    league games.  ECAC teams play 22 games, home and away with each of 11
    opponents.  Hockey East teams play 21 games, 3 with each of 7
    opponents.  Where they differ is in their non-league schedules.  Ivy
    League ECAC teams are limited to 26 total regular season games, or 4
    non-league games, although Dartmouth was allowed to play 6 games this
    year.  For example, Harvard plays 2 games in the Beanpot and played BC
    and BU in non-Beanpot games this year.  Non-Ivy League ECAC teams are
    limited to 30 total regular season games.  Hockey East teams are
    allowed to play the NCAA maximum regular season games.  That's part of
    the reason - Hockey East is perceived as playing a tougher non-league
    schedule.  Hockey East is also perceived to be a tougher top to bottom
    league than the ECAC is (I'm not saying it is, it is perceived to be)
    and as a result, all things being equal, a Hockey East team with an
    equivalent record to an ECAC team will be ranked higher.
    
    The limitation on games played was one of the reasons for the formation
    of Hockey East in the first place.
    
    I don't know how to explain that ECAC schools have won 2 National
    Titles since the split while Hockey East schools have won 0.
    
    John 

    BU lost to Clarkson on Jan. 11th at Walter Brown Arena. One of the
    problems with the ECAC this year is the "leader du jour". No one team
    in the league seems to take control of the lead position for very long. 
    I have to think that the rankings are based on the fact that the season 
    happened to ended with Clarkson second. Having seen Clarkson on Jan 12th, 
    and BU four times this year, I'd have to say that even with the loss, 
    BU is better.
    
    In all honesty, there really isn't a lot of difference between the top
    three teams of Hockey East this year: BC, Maine, and BU. The differences
    in the standings are really BU's inability to beat Maine, and Maine's
    inability to beat BC. They are very close. Assuming all three survive
    first round games, Hockey Fest will be a war!
    
    The chest pounding between the two leagues is well documented in
    earlier versions of this file, but this year Hockey East has three very
    powerful teams at the top of the league.
    
    We'll see...
    Jerry

    
    OH yeah, forgot in the previous reply.... 
    
    At least five, and maybe six of the BU losses have been to BC
    (3) and Maine (at least 2). Both BC and Maine have been ranked in the
    top five more or less all year. I don't know if Maine played Clarkson,
    but on Jan. 12th, fresh off their win against BU, Clarkson was destroyed
    by BC at Conte Forum.
    
    Don't know if this settles the issue, but it could play into some of
    the pollsters thinking. 

    RPI lost to BU and Providence (in OT) early in the year, but beat BC.
    So who knows...
    
    To add to John's stat of titles, in every NCAA tournament since the
    split, an ECAC team has gone farther in the tournament than the best
    Hockey East finish... so who knows... let them keep underating the
    ECAC...
    
    -Walt

    In last night's ECAC preliminary games, Colgate beat Princeton 5-2 and
    Colgate moves on to play Cornell.  Yale beat Brown 2-1 and Yale moves
    on to play Clarkson.
    
    John

    In other ECAC action:
    
    Division 3 East:	Middlebury 4	Bowdoin 3 (OT)
    			Babson 3	AIC 2
    			Salem St 8	UConn 7 (OT)
    			Williams 3	UMass-Boston 2
    Division 3 West:	Elmira 7	Oswego 6
    			Rochester Tech 6  Union 3
    			Cortland played Mercyhurst, no score available
    			Fredonia played Geneseo, no score available
    
    (These are the old Division 2)
    
    Division 3 North:	Tufts at SE Mass and Plymouth at Assumption. 
    Lowest seeded remaining team plays Fitchburg while the other remaining
    team plays Suffolk.
    
    Division 3 South:	Western New England at Amherst and Roger Williams
    at Skidmore.  Lowest seeded remaining team plays Trinity while the other
    remaining team plays Iona.
    
    Women's Hockey:  Providence vs Northeastern and UNH vs Harvard. 
    Tourney takes place this weekend at UNH.
    
    John

    There used to be distinct Divisions 1, 2 and 3 in college hockey.  What
    happened was that most of the schools that would be considered Division
    2 wanted to move down to Division 3 due to the dominance of a few
    schools (kind of what happens in high school hockey here in
    Massachusetts) so there really wasn't a viable Division 2 any more. 
    The Division 3 schools who end up in the playoffs are really Division 2
    schools and they are the ones who compete for the national title.
    
    John

    Are there any clear distinctions between whether a school belongs in a
    certain division? Enrollment? Budgets allocated to the program? Size of
    coaching staff? Scholarships?  
    
    I used to have this endless discussion with Irwin Cohen, Northeastern's
    AD when I was there, about the soccer program. NU is a "Division I
    school" in many sports, being in a very big time hockey (don't laugh)
    and qualifying for the NCAAs in hoop for several years running.
    However, the soccer budget was virually nil, and they would routinely
    get stomped on by BC, BU, Harvard, Providence, UConn, etc. schools with
    significanlty better budgets, and (with the exception of Harvard)
    blue-chip scholarship athletes. NU was stricly walk-ons. NU would do
    well against good Div II and III schools, but really couldn't compete
    on the same level as the free-ride recruiters.
    
    I said that the school should be Div II in soccer, but Cohen would say
    that since we're Div I in everything else, we should also be that way
    for soccer. Fine then, as long as you give the coach a fighting chance
    to build a competitive program, like scholarships, a decent budget,
    etc. He spewed out the usual rhetorical dogma that all administrators
    preach, that there is sufficient financial aid available for students
    in general, and that a blue-chip soccer player can get his pell grant
    just like anyone else. Sure, then there's the kid from Ontario who can
    skate like the wind but "'e hain' got too many teef, an he hain' got
    too many brain, but bygollyItellya, da kid, 'e sure noo how ta put da
    puckindanet, eh!"    
    
    Tom 

    The first upset of tournament season took place last night and it was a
    big one.  Northeastern 6, Boston College 5.  This overshadowed a 3 goal
    performance by BC's David Emma and may have been Len Ceglarski's last
    game as BC head coach (although they may still make the NCAAs but even
    at that probably won't be at home).
    
    Unlike the Beanpot semifinal, this wasn't the Tom Cole show.  NU played
    BC really tight and the shot difference was NU 24, BC 29.  NU and BC
    traded goals in the first period.  BC took a 2-1 lead at 3:57 of the
    2nd.  NU then scored 3 goals in 3.5 minutes (including 2 goals in 21
    seconds) for a 4-2 lead with 8 minutes to go, then BC tied it up with 2
    late goals.
    
    BC took a 5-4 lead 15 seconds into the 3rd period and then NU tied it
    up halfway through.  NU got the game winner at 11:16 and held on from
    there, even surviving a tripping penalty on Rob Cowie with 55 seconds
    left.  NU was led by freshman Sebastien Laplante who had 2 goals.
    
    NU's next game will be Friday night, March 8 in the Hockey East
    semifinals at Boston Garden against the highest remaining seeded team. 
    The only way NU has a prayer of making the NCAAs is to win the
    tournament.  BC on the other hand will probably make the NCAAs, based
    on its record of 27-10, but if they do, won't play again until Friday,
    March 15.  At that, they probably will have to go on the road for both
    rounds of the tournament.
    
    John

    What a great way to salvage a horrible season! I get pretty tired of how
    the Boston media seems to fawn all over BC, as if it was the only
    school in town. BU always comes second, and in the years when all 3 had
    good hockey teams, this was obvious. Great to see BC get it's lunch
    handed to them!
    
    Tom

    I can understand the media bias towards BC in both football and
    basketball.  They are, after all, the only NE school that plays
    Division 1 football.  They are, after all, in the Big East, which is
    the premier basketball league in this part of the country, despite my
    pro-Atlantic 10 bias.
    
    I cannot understand why they dominate hockey coverage, however.  BU, NU
    and Harvard all play on the same level and should all be treated
    equally.  I can't help but think that if BC wins the national title,
    they will get much better coverage and more notoreity than Harvard did
    for winning it in 1989.
    
    John

    Can't add much to what John has said about the game. There will no
    doubt be an element in this note that will claim that BC chocked. I
    think that such a claim would only detract from what was certainly a
    shocker and a superlative team effort by Northeastern. As a BC season 
    ticket holder for more than 20 years, the simple truth is that the best 
    team won last night, pure and simple. I wouldn't even begin to offer 
    any excuses, last night was no accident. I wish NU the best in the 
    upcoming Hockey Fest.
    
    Look for BC to play at home on the 15th of March. Selection committee
    officials were interviewed on the radio last night, and said that the
    reseeding process will take place after the Hockey Fest tournament. 
    They will then hit the road for the quarter-final round, assuming they
    survive. 
    
    Do not be surprised if BC is ranked third or fourth in the East. It is
    quite possible that the three Hockey East teams will all be seeded
    ahead of the ECAC tournament winner. The reason for this is the BC loss
    last night. They can't be rated first or second, but they have beaten
    all the top four ECAC teams. In fact they have only lost three games
    out of Hockey East (2 to Michigan State, and RPI). This will count
    heavily in the seeding. I make no comment on fairness, I'm only
    repeating what was said on the radio.
    
    Someone asked how Clarkson is rated below BU even though they beat BU.
    The reason is strength of schedule out of their respective leagues. 
    BU's schedule is perceived to be harder. This will count more than I
    thought. 
         
    

    In lower divisions of the ECAC:
    
    Division 3 North:
    
    Plymouth State	5	Assumption 	4
    SE Mass		6	Tufts		3
    
    Saturday, March 2, Semifinals:
    
    Plymouth State at Fitchburg State
    SE Mass at Suffolk
    
    Division 3 South:
    
    Amherst		5	Western NE	2
    Roger Williams	8	Skidmore	3
    
    Saturday, March 2, Semifinals
    
    Amherst at Iona
    Roger Williams at Trinity
    
    Division 3 East:
    
    At Middlebury, March 1 and 2
    
    Friday:  Babson vs Salem State and Williams vs Middlebury
    Saturday:	Final
    
    Division 3 West:
    
    At Elmira, March 1 and 2
    
    Friday:  Mercyhurst vs Rochester Tech and Elmira vs Geneseo
    Saturday:  Final
    
    John

    YAYAYAHOOOOOOOOOOOO
    
    Gosh, I wish I coulda been there, but the cost woulda been
    prohibitive;-)
    
    Sounds like it was  a good game.  Really happy for the Huskies. 
    Perhaps this will serve BC better in the NCAA's, having been humbled by
    the Huskies.
    
    The best news for an Eagle fan has to be the retirement of Cementhaid. 
    I've said for years the guy was a horrible coach.  BC will *always* get
    great talent - the best from the Boston metro area.  They just need a
    coach who runs the team tighter, and gets more from the players. 
    They've been underachievers under Lenny, it's time for the Eagles to
    step forward in the NCAA's.
    
    JD

    In Hockey East, everyone makes the playoffs.  The first seed plays the
    8th, 2nd seed plays 7th, 3rd seed plays 6th and 4th seed plays 5th. 
    The first playoff game was last night and NU knocked BC out of the
    Hockey East playoffs.  #6 Merrimack is at #3 BU tonight, #5 UNH is at
    #4 Providence tomorrow and #7 Lowell is at #2 Maine Saturday.  The 4
    remaining teams play at Boston Garden next Friday night (March 8) in
    the first night of HockeyFest.  Hockey East is single elimination all
    the way.
    
    In the ECAC, the #11 and #12 teams (Army and Dartmouth) got bounced. 
    #10 Princeton lost to #7 Colgate and #9 Brown lost to #8 Yale.  Friday
    and Saturday, there are 2-game series (with a mini-game to decide the
    winner) among the following matchups:  #8 Yale at #1 Clarkson, #7
    Colgate at #2 Cornell, #6 Vermont at #3 St Lawrence and #5 RPI at #4
    Harvard.  The 4 surviving teams play at Boston Garden on Saturday
    night, March 9 in the second night of HockeyFest.
    
    The 3rd night of HockeyFest (Sunday, March 10) has one of the title
    games at 5PM and the other at 8PM.
    
    In the WCHA and CCHA, both of which are 9-team leagues, the 9th place
    team is eliminated and the first weekend is the basic 1 vs 8, 2 vs 7
    and so forth.  Their "Final Fours" are the same weekend as HockeyFest,
    the CCHA in Detroit and WCHA in St Paul.
    
    Then, the top 6 teams from each part of the country (one of which must
    be an independent) are reseeded for the NCAA tournament.  The top 2
    teams in each region have a bye in the first round and won't play again
    until the weekend of March 22-24.  The quarterfinal rounds are the
    weekend of March 15-17.  The 6th place team in the West plays at the
    3rd place team in the East, 5th in West at 4th East, 6th in East at 3rd
    in West and 5th in East at 4th in West.  Best 2/3 series instead of
    single elimination.  The survivors of these series play at the teams
    with the first round byes during the weekend of March 22-24.
    
    The 4 surviving teams get together in St Paul on Friday, March 29.  The
    2 survivors play on Easter Sunday, March 31, for the title.
    
    John  

    Re: <<< Note 11.72 by SASE::SZABO "Whatever happened to Maximus Super?" >>>
    
>>    The reason I ask is that I distinctly remember Merrimack and Clarkson
>>    battling for the top spot the last couple years Merrimack was in Div.
>>    II.  In fact, I'm pretty sure that the ECAC Div. II championship game
>>    in either '88 or '89, which Merrimack won, was between these 2 teams.
    
>>    Or perhaps Clarkson moved up to ECAC Div. I and there still is a Div.
>>    II?
    
>>    Regardless, I can't help thinking how well Merrimack would be doing in
>>    the ECAC Div. I, seeing the success Clarkson is enjoying.  Merrimack
>>    pretty much "owned" Clarkson in the '80s.
    
>>    And, in comparing the 2 leagues, Hockey East & ECAC, if you look at
>>    just these 2 teams' standings in their respective divisions and go by
>>    their recent head-to-head records, it's safe to say that the Hockey
>>    East is the better/tougher league.  This, of course, is assuming that
>>    both schools' hockey programs haven't changed dramatically in the last
>>    2 years...
    
      
      Hawk,

      I think you're confusing Clarkson with some other team.  Clarkson 
      has always been one of the more dominant Division I hockey teams
      in the East, even before the split.  I doubt that Clarkson has
      really even played Merrimack much, with the exception of one or
      two early season warm-up games.

      Anyways, I do understand that Hockey East plays a somewhat longer
      and possibly tougher schedule, but I don't really believe that
      they are that much superior to the ECAC overall (as post-season
      records indicate).

      Rather, I can accept a few of the previous arguments that no
      one in the ECAC really dominated throughout the season this year
      (Clarkson only won it on the last night through a tie), and that
      the top three HE schools were all pretty tough.  I don't get much
      news about Hockey East here in VT, so it's hard for me to judge. 

      -gary

    No upset in Hockey East action last night as BU scored 4 goals in the
    first period and then cruised to a 7-1 win over Merrimack.  ECAC action
    all over the place tonight, and in Hockey East action, UNH at
    Providence tonight and Lowell at Maine tomorrow.  WCHA and CCHA
    underway too.
    
    John

    Hockey East:
    
    Providence 4	UNH 1
    Maine 5		Lowell 3  (Lowell led halfway thru 3rd period)
    
    Semifinals Friday night:  PC vs BU and NU vs Maine
    
    ECAC Div 1
    
    All 4 home teams won, so on Saturday night, it's St Lawrence vs Cornell
    and Harvard vs Clarkson
    
    ECAC Div 3 East:
    
    Middlebury defeated Babson 1-0 for the title
    
    ECAC Div 3 West:
    
    Elmira defeated Mercyhurst 6-3 for the title
    
    ECAC Div 3 North:
    
    I didn't see any results
    
    ECAC Div 3 South:
    
    Amherst plays Trinity for the title
    
    CCHA:
    
    All 4 home teams won Friday night.  Didn't see any scores yesterday or
    today, so I'll assume all of them won again.  If that's the case, then
    Friday's semis in Detroit will have Ferris State vs Michigan and
    Western Michigan vs Lake Superior (in other words, the Michigan State
    Title).
    
    WCHA:
    
    The St Cloud vs North Dakota series is still on going but all other
    home teams won Friday night.  So, this looks like Wisconsin vs
    Minnesota and St Cloud or North Dakota vs Northern Michigan.
    
    Generally, hockey has held 100% true to form except for Northeastern's
    win over BC.
    
    John

    In other college action, Suffolk will play Fitchburg for the ECAC North
    title on Wednesday.
    
    The pairings for the NCAA Division 2-3 Tournament have been announced. 
    These are all 2 game series to be played Friday and Saturday:
    
    East:	Mercyhurst at Elmira and Oswego at Babson
    West:	Lake Forest at Wisconsin-Stevens Point and Gustavus 
    		Adolphus at Mankato State
    
    North Dakota beat St Cloud so the Fighting Sioux advance to play
    Northern Michigan.
    
    The NCAA Division 1 poll:
    
    1.	Lake Superior
    2.	Northern Michigan
    3.	Maine
    4.	Michigan
    5.	BC
    6.	BU
    7.	Minnesota
    8.	Clarkson
    9.	Wisconsin
    10.	Cornell
    11.	Providence
    12.	Ferris State
    13.	North Dakota
    14.	Western Michigan
    15.	Harvard

    Fitchburg St won the ECAC North title with a 10-8 win over Suffolk
    while Trinity edged Amherst 4-3 for the ECAC South title.
    
    John

    Hockey East results:
    
    BU 7	Providence 5
    Maine 4	Northeastern 3 (OT)
    
    Title:  BU 4 Maine 3 (OT)
    
    ECAC results:
    
    St Lawrence 4	Cornell 3 (OT)
    Clarkson 3		Harvard 2
    
    Title:	Clarkson 5	SLU 4  (Clarkson's first ECAC title since
    1966)
    
    CCHA results:
    
    Lake Superior 11	Western Mich 4
    Michigan 4		Ferris St 2
    
    Title:	LSSU 6	Michigan 5 (OT)
    
    WCHA results:
    
    Minnesota 3		Wisconsin 2
    no score available for North Dakota - Northern Mich
    
    Title game tonight
    
    NCAA Division 3 semifinals are Friday:
    
    Babson vs Elmira and Mankato St vs Wisconsin-Stevens Point
    
    ECAC Division 3 game was last night between Trinity and Fitchburg St
    
    John

    Northern Michigan beat North Dakota 8-6 in the other WCHA semifinal
    and will face Minnesota tonight.
    
    Trinity beat Fitchburg 4-3 in OT.
    
    John

    JD
    
    Sorry I haven't responded before now to your note about "Lenny". I
    certainly cannot disagree with you at this point. I have in the past,
    but I think it's time for Len to head on down the trail.. He is 
    unable to win the big game, not only at BC, but also when he was 
    at Clarkson. I don't think anyone would disagree at this point. He 
    admitted in the Globe the day after the game that, "...the team wasn't 
    ready to play". Well, enough said.
    
    I don't want to take anything away from the Huskies that night. They
    were far and away, the best team on the ice. They deserved to eliminate
    BC, and they did. There were even a couple of questionable penalities
    assessed to NU late in the game, which I think were better left
    uncalled. Luckily, the game didn't turn on either call. 
    
    NU came within an eyelash of ousting Maine on Friday night. They lost
    in OT, but again played very well. I think they are rebounding, and
    should be back toward the top next year. I believe that Cole, given a
    defense, and LaPlante could play anywhere.
    
    Rumors about Lenny's retirement have been rampant all year. I hope he
    does go, next year will be strictly rebuilding. It looks like BC will
    loose the 8 seniors to graduation, and up to 6 underclassmen to the 
    olympic tryouts. It wouldn't bother me terribly.....new team, new
    coach.
    
    The NCAA bids are out late tonight. It ought to be facinating how they
    rank the teams in the East. BC is in, but where will they play?
    
    Tomorrow will tell
    Jerry 

    Jerry,
    
    
    I didn't see any of the games, but was surprised NU beat BC, and played
    so well against Maine.  All in all, I'd rather have an NCAA bid, but
    the Huskies just aren't that good.
    
    Regarding Len - I've never like BC, but I know they've had great
    talent.  The team always seems to lack something - and I've always felt
    they lacked coaching.
    
    A change might do the program some good.  Which is scary - since BC is
    year-in, year-out, a top 10 team.  
    
    The bids and pairings for the NCAA's should be interesting.
    
    Good luck to the Eagles, the Black Bears and the Terriers (will any
    other Hockey East team make it?  Does Providence have a chance??)
    
    JD

    My early guess on teams that are likely to make it:
    
    Hockey East
    
    I feel Maine, BU and BC are in with Providence a possibility.
    
    ECAC
    
    I feel Clarkson and St Lawrence are in with Cornell a possibility. 
    Harvard won't make it because their overall record is around .500
    
    CCHA
    
    Lake Superior and Michigan should make it.  Either Western Michigan or
    Ferris State might make.  Ferris State had a better record (but not by
    much) but Western won the consolation game.
    
    WCHA
    
    Minnesota and Northern Michigan should make it.  Wisconsin will
    probably make it even if they lose the consolation game to North Dakota
    this afternoon.  North Dakota might make it if they beat the Badgers.
    
    (should have said above - BU, Clarkson and Lake Superior are in)
    
    I can think of 9 teams that either are in or are very likely:  Maine,
    BU, BC, Clarkson, St Lawrence, Lake Superior, Michigan, Minnesota and
    Northern Michigan.  Providence, Cornell, Ferris State, Western
    Michigan, Wisconsin and North Dakota are all possibilities.  One
    Division 1 independent must also be picked but I don't know who that
    will be.  So in effect there seems to be 6 teams vying for 2 spots and
    I'll predict those slots will go to Providence and Wisconsin.
    
    BU, Clarkson, Lake Superior and tonight's WCHA winner will likely have
    the bye next week and host a quarterfinal.  BC, Maine, Michigan and the
    WCHA runner up will likely host first round games next week. 
    Providence, Wisconsin, St Lawrence and the independent being on the
    road in the first round.
    
    Talk about going out on a limb!
    
    John

    I was slightly wrong but not by much.  Cornell made it over St Lawrence
    which I can't quite understand since the Saints beat Cornell is the
    semis and were only a point or two behind Cornell in the regular
    season.  Also, Maine got the first round bye over Clarkson and I can
    understand that since the top 3 teams in Hockey East were stronger than
    the ECAC top teams.
    
    The seedings are as follows:
    
    East:  1.  Maine  2.  Boston University  3.  Boston College   
    4.  Clarkson  5.  Providence  6.  Cornell
    
    West:  1.  Lake Superior State  2.  Northern Michigan  3.  Michigan  
    4.  Minnesota  5.  Wisconsin  6.  Alaska-Anchorage
    
    This weekend, all 2/3 series:
    
    Alaska-Anchorage at Boston College
    Wisconsin at Clarkson
    Cornell at Michigan
    Providence at Minnesota
    
    Weekend of March 22-24, all 2/3 series:
    
    Alaska-Anchorage-Boston College winner at Northern Michigan
    Wisconsin-Clarkson winner at Lake Superior State
    Cornell-Michigan winner at Boston University
    Providence-Minnesota winner at Maine
    
    The real Final Four takes place in St Paul on March 28 with the title
    game on Saturday night, March 30.
    
    John
    
    PS - Northern Michigan won the WCHA last night, 4-2 over Minnesota and
    North Dakota won the consolation game 5-2 over Wisconsin.  The pairings
    were announced before the title game, however
    

>>    season.  Also, Maine got the first round bye over Clarkson and I can
>>    understand that since the top 3 teams in Hockey East were stronger than
>>    the ECAC top teams.
    
  
      As the top ECAC team (both regular season AND tournament), I feel 
      that Clarkson deserved an automatic bye.   I wouldn't argue with 
      the fact that Maine and BU were stronger teams, but it gets pretty 
      subjective after that.      

      And to seed Providence ahead of Cornell is absurd in my opinion.
      I think the NCAAs need a less subjective system of seeding.
      
      -gary
    

    The Hockey East schools (at least as far down as even UNH) did an
    outstanding job against their non-league schedules, most of which was
    made up of ECAC opponents and the rest made up of WCHA and CCHA
    opponents.  In comparison, the ECAC's non-league schedules tended to be
    weaker, there were fewer non-league games *AND* the non-league results
    tended to be poorer than those of the Hockey East schools.  I believe
    this holds true if you compare Maine, BU, BC, Providence and even UNH
    to Clarkson, Cornell, St Lawrence, Harvard and RPI.
    
    While it's probably not fair to the ECAC schools I can't argue with it
    very much and I can be objective because I didn't go to any of them. 
    In fairness, too, the ECAC has brought it on themselves, because
    they're the ones who wanted to play fewer games than the NCAA allows
    which is a big reason Hockey East was formed in the first place.
    
    John 

    Re: Clarkson
    
    They're lucky they won the tournament, otherwise they'd be shovelling
    snow. They beat BU, just barely, after blowing a huge lead. Again, they
    came to friendly Conte, and were blown out. 3 late third period goals
    made it respectable (8-5), but they were a no-show. Point in fact, the
    Easts top three teams are seeded exactly right. Maine and BU both
    deserve the bye, and BC, well Clarkson didn't show. Keep in mind BC
    played the second toughest schedule in 1-A this year, only Michigan
    State and RPI and the HEA brethren beat them. 
    
    In fairness to the ECAC, this was not a banner year. 
    
    JD:
    
    I have to agree. Coaching is what BC lacks, especially in the games
    that count. Clarkson lacked the same thing when Lenny was there. I
    think history is repeating itself. We'll see if changes are made.
    
    I think Maine and BU are in good shape for the tournament. Maine almost
    never looses at home, and BU should be OK, but they've had their
    troubles at home. The series is a three game affair which will help.
    BC should be OK with Alaska Ankorage. They will have been off for 16
    days, so Friday should be an adventure. It wouldn't surprise me if it
    takes them three games. Assuming BC can win, the Northern Michigan-BC
    series will be a good one. They haven't played this year, but in the
    past BC has done well. It will be out there, so we'll see. The BC
    defense has been on spring break since the BU Beanpot game.
    
    In general, I think the BU win in the tournament made it easy for the
    selection committee. Had they lost, it would not have surprised me if
    BC would have had the bye, having beaten BU 3 out of 4 this year. I
    don't think this would have been fair, but I could see it happening.
    Justice prevailed, and BU has the bye. I think they are playing better
    at the moment anyway. 
    
    I will stand by what I've said all along....the upset of the year...
    
    NORTHEASTERN 6 - BOSTON COLLEGE 5
    
    We'll see
    Jerry
    

     No arugument that the non-league games of Hockey East schools are
     probably tougher and more numerous than those of ECAC teams.
     To generalize, though, that just because overall HE schools play
     a tougher schedule than ECAC teams is not fair.  

     What I haven't seen is results of head-to-head play overall. 
     If the top four Hockey East Schools so clearly dominated games
     against the top four ECAC teams, then I'll concede that the
     seedings are correct.  It's just not fair to generalize.
     
>>    In fairness, too, the ECAC has brought it on themselves, because
>>    they're the ones who wanted to play fewer games than the NCAA allows
>>    which is a big reason Hockey East was formed in the first place.
    
     I don't believe that's quite how it came about, if I remember 
     correctly.  There were certain teams in the ECAC that wanted to 
     play MORE games than the ECAC allowed.  Subtle difference, but
     it means they didn't bring it on themselves, it was certain schools
     that wanted to put more emphasis on hockey.

     Overall, since the split, I'd bet if you looked at head-to-head
     standings, performance in the NCAA's, and number of players that
     go on to play pro hockey, you'd find the two leagues a lot more even
     than you'd think.

     -gary

    I agree Gary.  And John, lumping RPI with those other teams in terms of
    non-league competion isn't quite right.  RPI beat Lowell (ok, big deal)
    and BC, played a Providence in RI and lost in OT, and lost to BU.  Not
    great, but respectable...

    You're right, I don't have the head-to-head records and the schedules
    in front of me so I shouldn't generalize the way I did.  The fact still
    remains however - because of playing more games and a generally
    stronger non-league schedule, Hockey East is *PERCEIVED* to be a
    stronger league than the ECAC in the regular season.  I don't know
    how this correlates with 2 Hobey Baker winners (Scott Fusco and Lane
    MacDonald, because Mark Fusco won the Baker before the split) since the
    split nor do I know how this correlates with 2 national titles and 3
    other final game appearances since the split for the ECAC vs only one
    final game appearance (and no title) for Hockey East.
    
    I believe the following based on what I've seen:
    
    1.  The ECAC has to have a truly super team to be perceived by the
    tournament committee as being stronger than its corresponding Hockey
    East school.  Right or wrong, that's the way it is.  
    
    2.  The ECAC teams may well be underrated when they get to the
    tournament.
    
    3.  I believe this year's ratings with Clarkson being seeded 4th in the
    East and Cornell 6th are indeed correct.
    
    4.  You may be right about the reasoning about who caused whom to jump
    and form Hockey East but I believe the game limitation, whether
    pre-existing or newly proposed at the time, was the reason.
    
    5.  I don't really care about which league is stronger since I didn't
    go to any of the schools and don't care passionately about any single
    one of them, except for hoping for BC to lose.  I just want to see good
    hockey.
    
    John

    OK...One more time. 
    
    I can't say one way or another whether Providence belongs in the
    tournament seeding where they are or not. I will say that based on the
    regular season record, both in and out of HEA, BC is exactly where they
    ought to be. BC's 1990-1991 record against ECAC teams is as follows:
    
    11/2   BC 5 - Vermont 1
    11/23  BC 2 - Harvard 1
    11/25  RPI 5 - BC 4
    1/11   BC 5 - St. Lawrence 0
    1/12   BC 8 - Clarkson 5
    1/22   BC 8 - Dartmouth 2
    1/29   BC 5 - Cornell 4
    
    BC beat everybody who showed up in the Garden for the ECAC tournament,
    including the two teams that played for the championship. They beat
    both of them by a combined goal total of 8.
    
    BC's out of League Games included:
    
    11/16 Michigan State 4 - BC 2
    11/17 BC 5 - Michigan State 4
    12/2  BC 5 - Michigan 1
    12/20 BC 3 - Minnesota 2
    12/21 Michigan State 3 - BC 2
    
    RE: Providence
    Yes, BC lost to Providence in February. They also beat them in November
    and December. The series is as follows:
    
    11/27 BC 8 - Providence 7
    12/4  BC 5 - Providence 1
    2/20  Providence 3 - BC 2
    
    RE: BU
    Yes, BC lost the Beanpot. They also played BU four times during the
    regular season, and beat them three. The series is as follows:
    
    11/11 BC 3 - BU 2
    1/18  BC 5 - BU 2
    2/11  BU 8 - BC 4
    2/23  BC 6 - BU 5
    
    RE: Maine
    Yes, BC lost to Maine in January. They also played three times and beat
    them twice. The series is as follows:
    
    12/15 BC 6 - Maine 5
    1/15  Maine 6 - BC 5
    1/20  BC 5 - Maine 4
    
    National Poll:
    BC has been sitting at the #3 position in the polls all year. They
    trail Northern Michigan and Lake Superior State. Maine has been sitting
    in the #4/5 position all year swapping places with Minnesota. BU has
    been sitting around #6/7 all year. The same cannot be said for ANY of
    the ECAC teams. 
    
    RE: BC-Northeastern
    Yes, BC lost. They ran into a hornets nest on February 27th with 
    Northeastern when they lost in the HEA quarter-finals 6-5. Northeastern 
    would have beaten anybody that night including Lake Superior,
    Northern Michigan, Maine, BU and anybody that the ECAC cared to have
    them play. Point in fact, they beat the East's #1 team. I was there, 
    and believe me, it was no mistake. I'm no fan of Northeastern (or Maine
    for that matter), but appreciate great performances, and I witnessed 
    one by the Huskies. It was one of the three most shocking defeats that 
    I've seen BC have in the 22+ years, I've been a BC season ticket holder.  
    I'm glad the committee didn't hold it against BC. They certainly could
    have, had the ECAC been stronger, but they aren't.
    
    Past history is irrelevant. This year in head-to-head competition BC is
    6-1 against ECAC teams (2-0 against the ECAC entrants), and 7-3 against 
    the other three HEA entrants.
    
    Bottom Line:
    Justice was served. Clarkson is where they deserve to be. Had they not
    won the tournament, they'd be done for the season.
    
    The facts speak for themselves.
    Jerry 

     Ok, my last comments on the matter, and then I'll leave it alone.

     I do (and have agreed that top to bottom, Hockey East is a stronger
     league than the ECAC).  

     I agree with the following points:
    
>    1.  The ECAC has to have a truly super team to be perceived by the
>    tournament committee as being stronger than its corresponding Hockey
>    East school.  Right or wrong, that's the way it is.  
    
>    2.  The ECAC teams may well be underrated when they get to the
>    tournament.
 
>    4.  You may be right about the reasoning about who caused whom to jump
>    and form Hockey East but I believe the game limitation, whether
>    pre-existing or newly proposed at the time, was the reason.

     I don't agree with the following:
   
>    3.  I believe this year's ratings with Clarkson being seeded 4th in the
>    East and Cornell 6th are indeed correct.
 
     As I said in an earlier note, I think any team that wins the regular 
     season and wins the tournament, should get an automatic bye.  Period.
     No other factors considered.
    
>    5.  I don't really care about which league is stronger since I didn't
>    go to any of the schools and don't care passionately about any single
>    one of them, except for hoping for BC to lose.  I just want to see good
>    hockey.
 

     It may be obvious by now, but I am a Clarkson alumni (pre-split days).
     I'm just happy that Clarkson has finally won the ECAC championship
     after all those dry years.  They have been one of the best regular
     season teams in the league consistently, year-after-year, but
     could never seem to put it together in the playoffs.


>    I can't say one way or another whether Providence belongs in the
>    tournament seeding where they are or not. I will say that based on the
>    regular season record, both in and out of HEA, BC is exactly where they
>    ought to be. BC's 1990-1991 record against ECAC teams is as follows:
    
>    11/2   BC 5 - Vermont 1
>    11/23  BC 2 - Harvard 1
>    11/25  RPI 5 - BC 4
>    1/11   BC 5 - St. Lawrence 0
>    1/12   BC 8 - Clarkson 5
>    1/22   BC 8 - Dartmouth 2
>    1/29   BC 5 - Cornell 4

     Maybe, then, the issue is that BC should be seeded ahead of BU.
     It seems to me that the same problem existed in Hockey East this
     year that you seem to indicate happened in the ECAC: no team
     could consistently come to the forefront and dominate. 

>    Bottom Line:
>    Justice was served. Clarkson is where they deserve to be. Had they not
>    won the tournament, they'd be done for the season.
 
     No way!  The only way you could make this argument would have been
     if Cornell had been in the finals and lost, and Clarkson hadn't
     made it.  Even so, then you have to consider the possibility that
     Clarkson, Cornell, and St Lawrence (probably) would have all been 
     in and Providence out.

     Anyways, I think BOTH eastern leagues have a ways to go before 
     they can catch the West, who I think will dominate the NCAA's this
     year (no, I don't expect Clarkson to do all that well, but I'd
     like to see them get by Wisconsin this weekend).

     BTW, when did Scott Fusco graduate? I thought it was after the split?

     -gary

    Mark Fusco graduated in 1983 (before the split) and then played in the
    1984 Olympics.  Scott Fusco graduated in 1986, having taken a year off
    to play in the 1984 Olympics during his career.  Lane MacDonald graduated in
    1989 and he also took a year off, to play in the 1988 Olympics.  All 3
    won the Hobey Baker Award and all 3 years, Harvard played for the
    National Title.
    
    Gary, I see what you're saying about the champion of each league
    getting an automatic bye past the first round, but the NCAA has always
    stated that the top 2 teams in each geographic region get the bye, not
    the champions of each league.  While I agree this may have been unfair
    to Clarkson this year, I think it's a fairer system overall.
    
    John

    Gary:
    
    I have no problem with BU getting a bye. Five of the BU losses during
    the year were to Maine and BC. Point in fact, had they not won the 
    tournament, I think BC would have had the bye. Clarkson didn't have a
    chance.
    
    BC led HEA, during the regular season, almost wire to wire. Maine took
    over a couple of times because they had a game in hand. I have no
    problems with the seedings.
    
    The NCAA takes a look at the teams, assumes who is the strongest, and
    seeds them accordingly. I'm sorry, if the best that the ECAC has to
    offer is considered a fourth place seed. I saw a lot of the ECAC teams
    this year, and it was not a banner year. I don't care who won the
    bloody tournament.  
     
    Two other points to ponder: Harvard (4th ECAC seed, and 3-2 loser to
    Clarkson in the ECAC semi-final game) was blown out in the Beanpot
    Consolation game by the HEA's 8th place team.... Northeastern 5-0.
    BU also took less than 12 minutes the week before to blow out Harvard
    in the Beanpot opening round. It was not a bumper crop of ECAC teams.
    
    Clarkson, SLU, and RPI all could have joined HEA, when HEA was formed.
    They chose not to join. Whether it would have helped their programs in 
    the long term, who knows. One thing is for certain though, the NCAA
    selection committee, isn't impressed with the offerings from the ECAC
    this year.
    
    Hey, if they are as good as people claim they are, they'll win this
    weekend. Few mistakes, are made in a best 2 out of 3 series. If they
    loose, that about says it all.
    
    
    
     

     Clarkson, SLU and RPI are kind of enigma's.  They still offer 
     scholarships, unlike the rest of the ECAC schools, but yet
     chose NOT to join Hockey East because they felt that they
     were still academic institutions first, and sports schools
     second.  I admire their stance.  UVM falls into that category,
     also, but have not yet developed an outstanding program.

     I have no doubt that all three, were they to join Hockey East,
     would be top-notch competitors in that league as well.

     This debate is very similar to that raging in a later note in this
     file on the NCAA basketball tournament.

     I, personally, think that the NCAA places too much emphasis
     on big-time schools from big-time conferences.  After all, this
     is NOT the pros.  

     I said that I don't expect Clarkson to fair that well in the
     NCAA's (although I can always hope).  That doesn't mean that they
     don't deserve to be there.  They won their league, and their
     league's post-season tournament.  All four leagues are capable
     of play at the level of each other, although some leagues and
     teams are perenially stronger than others.   So what?  I think
     they all still deserve an equal chance at post-season play.

     -gary

    Gary:
    
    I can't disagree with anything you said in your last reply. Point in
    fact I hope the Knights do well with Wisconsin. After all, they are an
    Eastern team. Don't get me wrong, they belong in the tournament. Of all
    the ECAC teams I saw this year, they were the only ones that showed any
    life at all. I think the top three HEA teams are stronger this year,
    but this is certainly not the case every year. BC lost at Clarkson
    last year, even though they were the HEA champions, so things change.
    
    We'll see, for all the chest pounding done, after the Northeastern
    fiasco two weeks ago, I'm taking nothing for granted!
    
    Good Luck
    Jerry 

    First games of first round:
    
    Alaska Anchorage	3	at Boston College 	2
    Cornell 		5	at Michigan	4 (OT)
    at Clarkson 	8	Wisconsin	3
    Providence		4	at Minnesota	3
    
    Alaska-Anchorage scored 3 goals in the 3rd period for the
    win.  Cornell tied its game with 2 seconds left in regulation and won
    at 21 seconds of OT.  
    
    In the NCAA Division 3 tournament Wisconsin-Stevens Point beat Babson
    5-2 and Mankato beat Elmira 7-3.
    
    John

    Second games of first round:
    
    Alaska Anchorage	3	at Boston College 1
    Alaska Anchorage advances to play at Northern Michigan
    
    at Clarkson		5	Wisconsin	4
    Clarkson advances to play at Lake Superior
    
    at Michigan		6	Cornell		4
    at Minnesota	8	Providence	4
    
    Game 3 in both series tonight
    
    In Division 3:
    
    Wisconsin-Stevens Point wins the national title with a 6-2 win over
    Mankato State while Babson won the consolation game 3-2 over Elmira.
    
    John

    Alaska Anchorage ousted BC over the weekend.
    
    Firday Night:
    BC played well enough to win, but two third period goals by the
    Seawolves (BC's defense, especially goaltender Scott LeGrand) were out at
    the Hot Dog stand. BC outshot Alaska by nearly two to one, but a
    furious rally late in the third period fell short.
    
    Saturday Night:
    Three power plays goals, two with a two man advantage, were all the
    Seawolves needed to put BC out of its misery. BC was flat, and mounted
    little in the way of offense. Second period penalities killed BC as
    they played nearly the entire second period short handed.
    
    BC closes out the season at 27-12, having gone 3-5 down the stretch.
    There is no speculation as to whether this was the last game for coach
    Len Ceglarski who is rumored to be entertaining thoughts of retirement. 
    If he does retire, there will be no shortage of candidates for the job.
    
    
    

    Minnesota eliminated Providence 8-3 last night and they go on to play
    at Maine this weekend.  I don't know who won the final game of the
    Michigan - Cornell series.
    
    John

    Michigan beat Cornell last night 9-3.  The pairings in hockey are all
    set:
    
    Michigan (3 West) at Boston University (2 East)
    Minnesota (4 West) at Maine (1 East)
    Clarkson (4 East) at Lake Superior (1 West)
    Alaska-Anchorage (6 West) at Northern Michigan (2 West)
    
    If they don't reseed the teams, it will be the Minnesota-Maine winner
    vs the A-A - Northern Michigan winner and the Michigan - BU winner vs
    the Clarkson - LSSU winner.
    
    John
    

    The Boston Globe confirmed in yesterday's paper what I had heard
    before the BC game on Saturday night. There will be a meeting between
    the new BC AD and Lenny "We'll win, as long as it doesn't count"
    Ceglarski on Wednesday March 20th. The subject is the future direction
    of BC hockey. Ceglarski has two years left on his current contract. 
    
    With 8 seniors graduating and another 4 or 5 under-classmen leaving 
    for Olympic tryouts, the team is clearly heading for a rebuilding year
    of massive proportions. The timing might be right to make a change, by
    allowing a new coach to develop a new system which will take them into
    the 90's.
    
    We'll see. 
    
    It might be time to "warm up the bus".
    Jerry
     

    ULowell has been put on 2 yr probation by the NCAA
    for "preferential treatment to hockey players" in 
    regards to low rent.
    
    Kev
    

    "The violations included rental fees reduced for 3 players and
    eliminated for 1 at apartments owned by Riley; transportation, meals
    and lodging in Riley's home for 2 prospects; transportation and
    entertainment on Riley's sailboat in Gloucester; contact with a
    prospect 'in person off-campus for recruiting purposes'; press passes
    to professional hockey games; permitting players to use the office
    telephone for free long distance calls; and the offering of cash in the
    locker room to players.  The cash, approximately $200, apparently was
    offered between periods of a November 22, 1986 game against BU at Tully
    Forum in Billerica.  The incident became 'team folklore' according to
    the report and the 3-2 Lowell win stands as their only win ever over
    BU.  Also the report said Riley 'failed to deport himself in accordance
    with the generally recognized high standards normally associated with
    the conduct and administration of intercollegiate athletics' and showed
    'a knowing and willful effort on his part to conduct the university's
    ice hockey program contrary to NCAA legislation.'"
    
    Apparently the parents of some of the players involved turned the
    school in to the NCAA.  The Chiefs have received 2 years probation and
    have been banned from the 1992 NCAA tournament.  It's unclear whether
    they've (or will be) banned from the 1992 Hockey East tournament.
    
    "Riley made himself familiar with the current rules of ice hockey but
    not the current rules governing recruiting and extra benefits.  A theme
    of ignorance of the rules, ignoring the rules and a disdain for seeking
    information about the rules by the head coach was evident throughout
    the findings."
    
    (Quoted without permission from the 3/20/91 Globe)
    
    John

    
    And they said "Riley couldn't *buy* a win against BU."
    
    Well, it just shows to go ya....
    
    Dickstah
    

    BC coach Len Ceglarski has announced he will coach one more season,
    91-92, and will retire after 20 years as head coach.
    
    John

    RE: Lowell and Riley
    
    Riley has always been a scum.  He was possibly the worst ice hockey
    referee of all time, and he was a real low-life coach.  Rumours of
    'cheating' at Lowell have been around for at least a decade.  This
    doesn't surprise me at all, and I'm sure it is only the tip of the
    iceberg.   If they ever look at grades, I'd bet they'd find some
    creative grading systems used in the past.  
    
    ULowell had some great teams in Division 2 with Riley at the helm.  Too
    bad he couldn't do things on the up and up.  
    
    The Chiefs will be better off without him.  
    
    Re:  Ceglarski
    
    Good news for the rest of NCAA Hockey, bad news for BC.  THen again,
    there's always the "win one for the Gipper" possibility.
    
    JD

    > Yeah, I never liked Riley much, but reading through the list of no-no's
    > he got bagged for, I pretty much though they were petty-assed.  Like,
    > charging less rent to a hockey player in his apartment house than a
    > non-player.  Big deal.  He's the landlord, he makes the rules,
    > regardless of what the Housing Authority and the Hockey East "governing
    > body" says.  The other stuff wasn't serious stuff either.
    
    I'd say the players shouldn't be in the coach's apartments, period. 
    Reduced rent amounts to cash payments, and not by some booster, but
    directly from the coach.  Free vacation time on the yacht, again 
    coming directly from the coach with his complete knowledge, is 
    serious, too.  I won't even comment on waving money in front of
    players' faces as motivation, if that's really true...
    
    The NCAA said that ULowell would have gotten *worse* if they hadn't
    initiated the investigation, turned themselves in, and let Riley go.
    I think they're fortunate that they got the punishment they did.
    
    > Another perspective- put it against UNLV's [alleged] violations...
    
    That depends on whether you're referring to the NCAA's allegations of
    illegal recruiting (free hotels, trips, phone calls, etc.) or MrT's 
    allegations of free cars, businesses, and tax evasion.  What the NCAA
    had on Lowell sounds worse than anything I've heard them reveal they
    have on UNLV (but I'll admit that it's not over there yet either...)
    
    glenn
     

    I'm a U Lowell alumnus, and after reading the list of violations I
    don't think the school got too severely punished.
    
    If there's any one person I feel bad for in this whole situation it's
    the Chiefs new hockey coach (shoot I can't remember his name, I believe 
    he's a former Bruin), who now has to clean up a mess he didn't create...
    
    
    py

    Re: Lenny
    
    JD
    I have to agree. Unfortunately for us BC fans, there won't be a "win
    one for the gipper" next year. There will be too many new faces on the
    team thanks to graduation and the Olympic team. I'd say that if BC is
    .500 next year, it would be a good year. 
    
    Actually, we all get something out of this. Lenny gets his "farewell
    tour" through the league. NCAA hockey gets a break because BC still
    won't win the big one, and I'll only have to suffer one more year! I
    Know I'll look forward to the final year, and the hope that a new
    regime might bring.
    
    Oh well in the meantime I'll have to follow the fortunes of Clarkson,
    BU and Maine in the tournament.
    
    Time will tell.
    Jerry
     

    Maine beat Minnesota 2 straight, 4-0 and 5-3.
    Northern Michigan beat Alaska-Anchorage 2 straight, 8-5 and 5-3.
    
    Maine plays Northern Michigan in the first semifinal, Thursday
    afternoon at 3 EST, in the St Paul Civic Center.  It will be televised
    in New England on NESN.
    
    Boston University beat Michigan 4-1 and 8-1.  Clarkson and Lake
    Superior split their first 2 games - Clarkson won the first 7-3 (5
    unanswered 3rd period goals, no less) and Lake Superior won the 2nd
    game 6-2.  I don't have the score from last night (&%&(#$^&# early
    papers) but in any event, BU will play that series winner in the second
    semifinal Thursday night at 8 EST, again to be televised in New England
    on NESN.
    
    The title game is Saturday night at 8PM, televised nationally on ESPN.
    
    John

    Ho-hum... ECAC surprises again...

     I'm impressed!  Also a little bit surprised.  Wish I could have
     seen the Clarkson games this past weekend.

     Should be good semifinals games all around.

     -gary

    The games this weekend should be great. 
    
    I have not seen Northern Michigan, but have seen the other three. Well,
    that's probably not true...I clearly didn't see the REAL Clarkson team
    ;-)!!
    
    I think Maine will beat Northern Michigan. They've been to the final 4 
    3 of the last 4 years. They're real good, and experience will work in
    their favor. I also think they are hungry.
    
    Clarkson-BU is hard to figure. BU is rolling up some impressive scores,
    but it is unclear still which BU team will show up, and if the Terriers can
    keep it up. There are those that will say that they are a money team at
    playoff time, but I'd argue that the BU rise has been on the strength
    of playing at the Boston Garden, and at home in Walter Brown. Had
    Jean-Yves Roy not missed the open net in the dying moments of the
    HEA Championship game, all this could have been different. I don't
    believe that BU is as strong away from home. 
    
    Clarkson ousted LSSU who had been on the top of the polls for the last
    three months. They took a 4-2 second period lead, and held off LSSU for
    13+ minutes in the third period while being out shot 21-6. That is some
    impressive defense in anyones league. They'll need it again Thursday,
    as BU croaked Michigan (and Maine for that matter) with a blizzard of
    break-away goals.
    
    I think it'll be a one goal affair, and it wouldn't surprise me if
    Clarkson pulls it off. They won at Walter Brown. They know how to win
    on the road. They'll have a friendly crowd, as the thousands
    of Maine fans will no doubt support Clarkson. I think they have a great
    chance.  
    
    We'll see.....As much as I don't appreciate Generalisimo Walsh's
    antics, I wouldn't be upset or surprised if Maine wins it all.
    
    We'll know Friday.....
    Jerry

    Clarkson continues to surprise me. I couldn't figure out whether they
    were a dominant team or not earlier in the year when they beat BU and
    got clobbered by BC. I watched them in the ECAC's in the Garden and
    while they didn't overly impress me, they were the steadiest and
    most consistent. Hmm
    I'm gonna take BU to edge Clarkson because I think they have better
    overall talent. Jerry, you do raise a good point about BU on the
    road and we shall see.
    I know nothing about Northern Michigan so I'll take Maine on the
    blind hunch (watch NM take it all). If I were Maine, I'd be hoping
    for BU to beat Clarkson. Something about the devil you know and the
    revenge factor.
    
    Finals BU over Maine in a dogfight.
    
    MikeL
    
    PS. all three Eastern teams are so close in ability you almost could
    flip a coin. Can anyone inform me about Northern Michigan?
    

    Yeah, I'm still not convinced that Clarkson is going to beat BU again
    either. BU is hard to figure. I am impressed with the performance last
    weekend with LSSU though.
    
    Maine is another one of those teams that are mortals away from Alfond
    Arena. I just like their experience. I also agree that they want
    another shot at BU too.
    
    I'm also going to say that BC's David Emma is going to win the Hobey
    Baker Award this year despite BC's pathetic performance in the
    play-offs.
    
    We'll see..
    Jerry                    

     Clarkson has a long history of unpredictability.  The games I've seen
     this year have done nothing to change this opinion.

     Their strengths are in 1) Defense 2) Power play percentage (excellent)
     and 3) Goaltending.  Skating at full strength, their offense is
     average at best.  As good as their defense looks, they seem to be
     susceptable to lapses leading to breakaways.

     I didn't expect them to make it to the semi's.  I have absolutely
     no prediction on how they'll do tonight against BU, but I can
     only hope that this is the year they finally come through.

     -gary

    		Semi-Final NCAA Hockey result this afternoon
    
    	Northern Michigan 5	Maine 3

    		Semi-Final NCAA Hockey result tonight
    
    	Boston University 7	Clarkson 3
    
    
    		Saturday night on ESPN Boston University will play
    	Northern Michigan for the NCAA Championship.
    

    Watched the 3rd period of the Maine game and all of the BU game.
    
    Maine - NMU was back and forth.  Tied 1-1 after 1, Maine took an early
    2-1 lead in the second period and NMU had a 3-2 lead after 2.  Maine
    tied it midway through the 3rd and then NMU really put the pressure on
    and scored the game winner with less than 4 minutes left.  NMU will be
    a tough foe for BU.  Each team lost a key player to injury.  Maine's
    Jean-Yves Roy had all 3 goals for the Black Bears.
    
    In last night's BU game, Clarkson took a 1-0 in the first 30 seconds of
    the game and then BU scored 5 goals before the first period was over. 
    Tony Amonte had 3 of them.  BU pretty much put it in cruise control the
    rest of the way.  There was only one penalty on each team until there
    were 2 minutes left, so it was an incredibly clean game and Clarkson,
    to their credit, didn't goon it up like Colgate did against Wisconsin
    in the title game last year.  The lack of penalties hurt Clarkson
    because the power play was supposedly their strength and BU scored a
    shorthanded goal on Clarkson's first period power play.
    
    If both teams play tomorrow the way they played yesterday, the title
    game will be a classic.
    
    In other hockey news, NU coach Don McKenney resigned after 2 years at
    the helm.  Next year's Final Four will be held at the Knickerbocker
    Arena in Albany, NY.  Now *THAT* would be one hell of a Noter's Road
    Trip.
    
    John 

    Well given the fact I have given the "kiss of death" to every team that
    I have said would win since the Beanpot, I'll continue the proud
    tradition and say that BU will win tomorrow night. I'm thrilled with
    the choice ;-)....pass the barf bag please....
    
    Look for the total playoff system to change in the next year or so. HEA
    officials interviewed between the second and third periods last night
    said the NC2A (as the "Shark" calls them) is looking into a 16 team, 4
    regional site, single game elimination format. If this sound like the
    basketball format, it is. It wouldn't surprise me if they clone it. The
    current system lacks consistency, and fairness, and the NC2A wants it
    changed. This format would also shorten the season by one week, which
    should make the college presidents happy.
    
    Who knows.....This is apparantly a topic for either the spring or
    summer NC2A meetings.
     
    Jerry
    

    Go BU.
    
    NMU will be tough,John. BU has to stay focused all night on Sat.
    I was truly impressed with Peter Ahola from BU. He plays a mean D.
    Which NHL team drafted him, anyone know? Von Steffenelli needs to
    play a little more consistently Sat. nite. He looked like he was
    feeling the pressure on the odd shift.
     Shawn McEachern (sp) really makes his line go. He's the perfect
    center for Amonte.
    
    BU 5, NMU 4
    
    MikeL
    

     Re: BU-Clarkson Game

     Too bad Clarkson forgot to come out for the first period.  That
     wasn't the team I've seen play most of the year.  I wasn't sure
     that they'd beat BU, but I expected a close, exciting game.

     A lot of credit to BU, who played excellent hockey.  They kept
     Clarkson outside all night.  There was never much action in
     front of the net.  Clarkson was clearly capable of playing a lot
     better than they did, also.  If you had a chance to see their
     meaningless powerplay at the end of the game, that was more
     typical of the level they played at most of the year.
     
     Well, I'm still impressed with their making it to the semi-finals.

     RE: BU-NMU

     I didn't get to see the first game yesterday, but based on everything
     I've heard and read about NMU, it should be a great game.  Did I
     hear correctly that NMU hasn't lost since Dec 7?  Something like
     20-0-2 since then?

     Re: NCAA changes

     The final four in Albany would be great.  I know the ECAC is interested
     is holding their post season tourney there, now that there's only
     one Boston area school in the ECAC.

     I saw there were some other changes being proposed, also, that seemed
     like they would do more to equalize the four Division I schools.
     Things like limitations on number of games, and scholarship limitations.
     I don't remember all the details.

     I like the idea of a 16 team post season tourney, also.

     -gary

    Northern Michigan has won 25 in a row. They are 31-0-2 when leading
    after the second period.
    
    The Maine goalie (Dunham, Garth Snow didn't play which I'm sure will
    lead to questions) left 3 easy rebounds that resulted in 3 NMU goals. Two 
    of the NMU goals were power play jobs. Maine was something like 0-5 or 1-5
    on the power play. NMU was something like 2-4. The game winner came at 
    the 16:47 mark of the third period. The 5th NMU goal was an open net job.
    
    Jean-Yves Roy accounted for all 3 Maine goals.
    
    This was Maine's third loss in the semi-final round in the last four
    years. They've turned into the Duke of College Hockey. 
    

    re, 135
     I totally agree with you.  Why have a single game elimination for the
    finals.  I think the best way to show one team is better than another 
    is the best-of-three format.  To play well enough to get to the
    semi-finals a given team is only allowed one chance, just doesn't seem
    right.  
    
    I've got the cooler ready for Saturday nite, it should be one heck of a
    game.  BU's defense had better be prepared, they should have a busy
    night.  Best of luck to both teams they both deserve to be there.
    
    AL
    

    Knickerbocker Arena, huh? Geez, next thing you know they'll be holding
    the event in the Rhinegold Light Coleseum, or the Genesee Cream Ale
    ($1.09 a 6-pack) Garden
    
    

    
    rep> 137
    
    		I heard that Peter Ahola was undrafted and now is too old 
    	for the draft. Which should mean that he can make his own ( free 
    	agent ) deal. Also, B.U.'s all rookie team Scott Friedman (sp) will 
    	go high in this years NHL draft. Word is that he will take the
    	money and go pro.
    

     re .143
    Actually,that was a LOOONG time ago, when I was in High School and
    people wore platform shoes, wide lapels and lambchop sideburns (and it
    WASN'T Halloween). I grew up just over the Mass, line from NY, so on
    Sundays, when Packies close in Mass., we used to drive the 6 miles to 
    the border where this little mom & pop grocery store sold sixes of Genny 
    Creams for $1.09. Of course, this was when Miller & Bud were both WELL 
    OVER 2 BUCKS for a 6-pack!! 
    
    Tom

    Cheap brews
    
    Don't forget the Bohemian Club Forum ( 3.10 a case= yuck!) or the
    Carling Black Label Stable ( you cain't give that stuff away)
    
    MikeL
    

    Hawk,
    	Mabel,Black Labels,huh? You must have to chase it down with some
    Muscatel!  what a Boilermaker.
    
    MikeL
    

    Shouldn't this go in the Junk Note?
    
    Mark.

    Nah, it don't need to go to the junk note yet. We all know that college
    hockey players drink cheap beer and have strong constitutions. I expect
    NMU to win the drinking bash after the hockey game Sat. nite. After all
    what else is there to do in Northern Michigan but drinking and inbreed!
    Kinda reminds me of rural New Hampshire.
    
    BU in the game
    NMU in the bars.
    
    MikeL
    

		Northern Michigan wins the NCAA Hockey Championship!
	They defeated Boston University 8 - 7 in three overtimes.

		Boston University had a great season, they continually
	got better as the season went along. Counting the Bean Pot, the
	Hockey East Playoffs, and The NCAA playoffs, B.U. won 8 and
	lost 1. That one lost was tonights Overtime game.

		Boston University will be hard hit by graduation, the
	Olympics and defections to the NHL. In Short they face a  major
	rebuilding next year.

		With Boston College claiming that they have the greatest
	ever, incoming Freshman class next year, doesn't sound like there is
	much left over for B.U. and the other Hockey East Schools.

		Emma of Boston College was voted the top player of
	College Hockey's regular season. He received the Hobey Baker award.
    
    					regards,	Peter

    That triple OT was almost as exciting as the Duke win!  What a night
    for a sports nut!
    
    	--dan'l

    What a comeback...  I thought the game was over at 7-4.   What about
    when ? from BU hit the post, in the first OT, and McEachern (cool name)
    got the rebound and it hit both posts....  thought the game was over 
    there, too.  Tough loss but it was an excellent game.

    
    That was a great comeback by the Terrier's! Northern Michigan really
    took it to them in the second period after falling behind 3-0.
    How about that stop by Pye with 1 second left in regulation, I think
    it was on Amonte. That shot that hit the post bounced off and hit a
    BU skate then hit the post again!! A good evening for the sports nut!
    
    
    
    Steve

    RE: Few Back
    BU was 8-2 They lost at home to BC the last night of the regular
    season.
    
    Re: Championship Game
    Tremendous victory for the Wildcats. Words cannot express how sweet
    that 8th Northern Michigan goal was! Time stood still as that wrist
    shot headed for the net. Love it!!!
    
    Re: Hobey Baker
    Was somewhat surprised that David Emma got it. I thought he had it in
    the bag during the regular season, but I thought that BC's atrocious
    playoff performance might have hurt him. He, along with the rest of the
    HEM line, was basically a no-show during the Alaska-Anchorage series.
    
    Re: BC Recruiting
    Yes, they seem to have had a good class. Next year they'll skate a lot
    of freshmen leading one to believe that next year will be an adventure
    to watch (aka .500 at best). The kids that they have already signed
    have all indicated that they chose BC because they can play next year.
    They won't have to sit around and wait. Should be interesting. The
    April signing period is coming up. BC has indicated that they expect
    four or five more kids to sign rounding out the needs for next year.
    
    Interesting season all around. Next year should produce a new playoff
    format, some surprises, and a lot of speculation as to whom will be the 
    new BC coach for 1992-93.
    
    Later....
    Jerry
      

    I don't think the playoffs have anything to do with who gets
    the Hobey Baker award.

    
    Tons of random thoughts ...
    
    NMU was the better team Saturday night.  They deserved to win.  The
    game was very exciting, but a rather sloppy game in my opinion.  Lots
    of lapses and breakdowns by both teams at both ends of the ice.
    
    The Hobey Baker award is based on regular season performance only.  I
    believe David Emma was in fact the best choice.
    
    The NCAA tournament has the format the way it currently is for a number
    of reasons.  The biggest one right now is the "Merrimack" rule.  That
    is, an independent is required to receive a bid to the tournament. 
    This format began with the 87-88 season, after Merrimack had another
    outstanding year in 86-87.  That's when the tournament went from 8 to
    12 teams.  The deal was agreed to on a 4 year basis - with the thinking
    that all else being equal (which, of course, it wasn't ...) each
    conference would have only 2 representatives in the tournament for one
    year.
    
    The best of three format evolved from trying to find a way from keeping
    the best teams from getting bounced from the tournament too early. 
    After all, don't you want your best teams playing for the national
    title?  Anyway, the 2 game total goals series was the initial cut at
    this, and the best of 3 was the result.  Once you get to the final
    four, you've got your four best teams, so the theory goes.  So, go
    ahead and play one game.
    
    Revenue also plays a factor.  I believe this tournament sold out,
    right?  If so, then the last one not to sell out was 88 in Lake Placid.
    Bringing teams together for a four team single elimination setup is
    usually more expensive than a few weekend series.  However, in the last
    few years, the interest in and popularity of the tournament has risen
    dramatically.  The NCAA would realize a decent profit from a 2 week, 16
    team, single elimination format now.  That would not have been the case
    4-5 years ago when the current format was laid out.
    
    I'd heard talk of the 16 team format starting in Lake Placid in 88. 
    With the revenue there, and the "deal" on the current format having
    "expired", it will be very surprising if this new format is *not*
    instituted for next year.
    
    
    more on Len Ceglarski, BC, Hockey East, and maybe even on Jack Parker,
    in a later note ...
    
    
    Dan Long
    

    
    		minor point to a few back, what I was saying was in
    	tournment ( playoff games ) the bean pot, the hockey east 
    	playoffs and the NCAA tournment B.U. won 8 and lost 1. I was
    	not refering to any regular season game.
    
    		My view on the final game was that Northern Michigan
    	was the better team. 
    
    						regards,	Peter
    

    Great game !!  I was having a hard time staying awake, but was
    determined not to find out about the outcome in the paper.  NMU is
    a very good team ..... they came back from 3 goals down in the NCAA
    Championship game, enough said.  Great season for the Terriers, from
    the Beanpot on they played their best hockey of the season ..... the
    way to go in any sport ..... be hot late.
    
    Congratulations to David Emma for the Hobey Baker award.  A fine
    individual achievement ..... the award is much like the Heisman in that
    there's loads of PR involved before/during the season.  Unfortunately,
    I can't think of any HB winner who's made it big in the NHL .... both
    Fusco brothers from Harvard won ..... and Lane MacDonald .... at least
    recently.   Who's the most successful College player in the pro's this
    year ...... John Cullen (BU) ...... who have had great success over the
    past years ...... Joe Mullen (BC) and Dave Taylor (Clarkson) .....
    
    Interesting East All-American team ..... Tony Amonte didn't make either
    first or second team.  Every game I saw this year he was the best
    player on the ice .......
    
    Re: BU Recruiting ....... don't be too concerned.  They have a very
    deep club, which will provide a strong nucleus even with the player
    defections; and the EMASS player of the year from CM has already
    committed.  My guess is that several uncommitted players watched the
    NCAA's will go to BU as a result ...... national exposure is a great
    recruiting tool.
    
    Beanpot-Hockey East Playoffs-NCAA Title, 2/3 ain't bad.
    
    
    Greg

    It seemed to me that BU was very apprehensive when they came out for
    the 3rd OT.  NMU was definitely the agressor.
    
    Great goal to end it.
    
    Mark.

    It's at the Knick?  I'd be up for it...
    
    Great game on Saturday.  Karen you missed the following faceoff, NMU
    came down and hit the crossbar.  Great action.
    
    I thought the announcers seemed to call the wrong player a lot and I
    thought they should have known what was considered an overtime period.
    Otherwise, I think they did a good job.
    
    -Walt

    Interesting that 13 of the 15 goals scored in the game were scored
    at the same side of the rink!  And the announcers said that NMU was
    going to defens that end to start the third OT, but THEY DIDN'T!!!!
    I knew BU was in trouble then!
    
    Tremendously exciting game to watch, and I'm not even a big hockey
    fan.  But college hockey is a zillion times better than the NHL.
    
    NAZZ

    The only annoying thing about the announcers was when colorman Wally
    Shaver constantly referred to Boston University as "Boston".  Once, he
    even referred to them as Boston College.
    
    Wally, Boston College has the same color scheme as your beloved
    University of Minnesota Golden Gophers.  HTH.
    
    It was a tremendous game and I sure hoping for BU to win.  I give both
    teams a lot of credit for coming back from big defecits and conversely,
    both teams should get blamed for blowing big leads.
    
    John

    
    Overtimes never switch ends of ice, although I think they should after
    each 10 minutes.  Tom Mees, Wally Shaver, and Jim Rich didn't really
    seem to understand too much about NCAA OT procedures.  Tom Mees
    definitely mis-called a *lot* of names ... but those of us who care
    could usually tell who he meant to call anyway.
    
    That 3OT goal looked like a terrible defensive breakdown on BU's part
    to me.  I saw Scott Cashman going down to his left, a BU defensemen
    down on Cashman's left, an NMU forward down in that pile, and two NMU
    forwards all alone about 10 feet out.  (I do intend to go back and
    check the videotape ... at first I thought Cashman was already down
    when the shot got taken ...)  Anyway, that's the kind of defensive
    mistake that loses hockey games.
    
    I think a stronger, more consistent defensive team would have matched
    up against NMU better than BU did.  BC, *if* it cared to play, comes to
    mind ...
    
    Hobey Baker winners and the NHL ... Lane McDonald suffered a head
    injury as a high school junior in a football game.  Continuing to play
    hockey was a real risk for him.  He opted not to join the Whalers farm
    system ... can you just see the AHL goons getting in line to take a
    shot at the Olympian/NCAA MVP/Hobey Baker winner ?????  Instead, he
    chose to play in West Germany, but "hung 'em up" after 1/2 season.  He
    felt the risk of injury was just too great.
    
    Next year's tournament is at the Knick.  You can probably count on it
    being there every 3 years or so at least until there's another suitable
    arena in the east.  Lake Placid is nowhere near big enough anymore. 
    I'm working on tickets now ... past tournaments have sold out a few
    months in advance (except, probably, for allocations to participating
    schools).  I'll post whatever info I find.
    
    One last thing.  Did anyone get the All-America teams?  I heard them
    talk about it on ESPN, but I never saw a newspaper this weekend.  Any
    chance one of you out there could post it?  Thanks.
    
    
    Dan
    

    Yes, the overtimes do switch.  They played 10 minutes, took a 2 minute
    break, switched ends and played 10 more.  Then the ice was resurfaced
    and then they played the final fatal 1:57.
    
    On the play where the goal was scored, 2 BU defenders followed the puck
    carrier to Cashman's left leaving the NMU player uncovered in front. 
    Cashman was so far to the side that it looked like there was no way he
    could have gotten back in time.  Clearly, Cashman had no chance on the
    play because he defense let him down.  Pulling Bradley and putting
    Cashman in after NMU scored its fifth goal was the move that kept BU in
    it for so long.
    
    I don't have the paper in which the A-A teams were announced but there
    is no one single A-A team in hockey - there's a Western team and an
    Eastern team but I don't know why.  Also from looking at the list I
    can't remember a single Hobey Baker winner who has made it big in the
    pros.  That doesn't indicate a failure of the award though.  Like the
    Heisman, it's supposed to be for the outstanding college player, not
    the best future pro.
    
    The NCAA tournament in hockey only does well at the gate if there is a
    local school competing.  It didn't sell out in St Paul this year
    because the University of Minnesota wasn't there.  It doesn't sell out
    in Detroit unless either Michigan or Michigan State is there.  I doubt
    it will sell out the Knick unless RPI is there, because they're the
    only school nearby who has a big enough local following to draw a lot
    of people.  I'm sure Clarkson, St Lawrence, Cornell, Colgate and Union
    wouldn't draw as many fans combined as RPI would.  I think the Knick is
    a great location for the East, far better than Lake Placid and probably
    better than Providence.  It would be a better place for the ECAC to
    hold its tournament than Boston Garden is.
    
    John

    Actually the team that matched up the best with NMU was Maine. I think
    that Thursday afternoon the only thing lacking was the proper Maine
    goalie. Dunham was burned for three goals after he left the rebounds.
    Garth Snow doesn't tend to leave as many. Unfortunately, with Walsh's
    rotation, it was Dunham's turn to play. Someone forgot to tell Shawn
    that there was no tomorrow if Maine lost.
    
    I can't agree that the BC defense was up to the task of holding NMU.
    BC coughed up buckets of goals to Lowell, Northeastern, BU, and
    Alaska-Anchorage. BC's defense can best be described as "no-shows" 
    from the end of January on. They clearly got worse as time went on. 
    Ultimately their lack of defense crippled their offense, and turned 
    both Galluppo and LeGrand into "ducks in a shooting gallery".
    
    Of the teams I saw this year from the East (plus Alaska Anchorage) 
    I'd take:
    
    Goalies: Maine, Alaska-Anchorage, Northeastern
    Defense: Maine, BU, Clarkson
    Forwards/Centers: BC, Maine, BU
    Enforcers: Rosenblatt (Merrimack), Guerin (BC), Rossi (Northeastern)
    Coaches: BU, Maine, Merrimack
    
    I'd take on anybody with this team.
    Jerry 

    
    You're right about the OT and switching ends ... I was probably
    thinking that teams start out at the same ends they finished regulation
    at ... but I need to check that out, now.
    
    True, the Gophers are the draw in St. Paul, as are the Spartans in
    Detroit.  However, the 89 and 90 tournaments sold out long before
    conference playoffs started ... in anticipation of the "home" teams
    being in the tournament.  That says that if RPI gets off to a hot
    start next year, be sure to get your tix by November :-)/2
    
    I wanna go back to my sources now and find out how quickly the 89 and
    90 tournaments became sellouts ... and see how Minn and Mich St started
    out in those seasons ...
    
    
    

    RPI won't get off to a hot start... not hot enough to challenge.
    
    Greg, I'd put Adam Oates (RPI) against Cullen for who's had the best
    year....
    
    The all-star teams came out over the weekend.  I remember the eastern
    1st team was all Hockey East (Emma, Roy, McEachern?) and second team
    included Ciavaglia and Juneau...
    
    -Walt

    
    Craig Janney is no slouch either! He just happened to go to a school 
    that most of you detest! Adam Oates is having an MVP type season. He
    is over-shawdoed by Hull his teammate wno Oates has set up QUITE a 
    few times thised season. Detroit's loss is St. Louis' gain.
    
    
    
    Steve

    All-American Teams
    
    		East first team		West first team
    
    Goal	Les Kuntar, SLU		Darrin Madeley, LSSU
    D		Keith Carney, Maine	Brad Werenka, NMU
    D		Dan Ratushny, Cornell	Jason Woolley, Mich State
    F		David Emma, BC		Jim Dowd, LSSU
    F		Shawn McEachern, BU	Scott Beattie, NMU
    F		Jean-Yves Roy, Maine	Greg Johnson, North Dakota
    
    		East second team	West second team
    
    G		Jeff Levy, UNH		Bill Pye, NMU
    D		Peter Ahola, BU		Sean Hill, Wisconsin
    D		Ted Crowley, BC		Karl Johnston, LSSU
    F		Peter Ciavaglia, Harvard  David Roberts, Michigan
    F		Joe Juneau, RPI		Doug Weight, LSSU
    F		Jim Montgomery, Maine	Dennis Felsner, Michigan
    
    	

    Tony Amonte has reached an agreement with the NY Rangers, and is
    expected to play tomorrow night against the Caps.  The paper says
    it is a 4-year contract which could be worth 1 million.
    
    The NATIONAL says that the Rangers have agreed to give him time off
    next season if he chooses to participate in the Olympics.  They will
    also pay his tuition if he wants to return to school in his spare
    time and will give him a BONUS is he earns a degree.

     Just happened to be in Albany this weekend and caught the following:

     Tickets for the 1992 NCAA championships, to be held April 2-3 at the
     Knickerbocker Arena, were placed on sale June7.

     Tickets are currently available as all-session passes, with individual
     games to be sold at a later date.  The all-session passes, for 
     the two semifinal games and the championship game, are priced at
     $ 50.

     Tickets are available from the Knickerbocker Area box office, through
     Ticketmaster outlets, or by mail order.

     Address for mail orders si: NCAA Hockey Championships, Knickerbocker
     Arena, 51 S. Pearl St, Albany, N.Y. 12207.  Mail orders must include
     a $2.50 handling fee and a SASE.

     -gary walz

    Saw the RPI hockey schedule over the weekend.  With adding Union and
    dropping Army, the traveling pairs have been readjusted.  They now
    are as follows:
    
    Clarkson-SLU	Cornell-Colgage
    RPI-Union		Princeton-Yale
    Brown-Harvard	Dartmouth-UVM
    
    Makes sense...
    
    Thought is Joe Juneau will bypass the B's and go to the Canadian
    Olympic Team.
    
    RPI will play at BU and at BC, and at home agains Merrimack I think
    in non-league play.  I can't wait for the 2 games at Alabama....
    
    -Walt

    Now that the real winter sport has faced off, the first weekly
    standings and polls are below.
    
    John

Hockey East			ECAC

New Hampshire	0-0-0	3-0-0	Clarkson	0-0-0	1-0-0
Boston Univ.	0-0-0	2-0-0	Vermont		0-0-0	2-1-0
Maine		0-0-0	2-0-0	RPI		0-0-0	1-1-0
Northeastern	0-0-0	2-0-0	Brown		0-0-0	0-0-0	
Merrimack	0-0-0	2-1-0	Cornell		0-0-0	0-0-0
UMass-Lowell	0-0-0	2-1-0	Dartmouth	0-0-0	0-0-0
Providence	0-0-0	2-2-0	Harvard		0-0-0	0-0-0
Boston College	0-0-0	1-2-1	Princeton	0-0-0	0-0-0
				Yale		0-0-0	0-0-0
				Colgate		0-0-0	0-1-0
				Union		0-0-0	0-1-0
				St. Lawrence	0-0-0	0-2-0

CCHA				WCHA

Lake Superior	4-0-0	5-0-0	Minnesota	4-2-0	4-2-0
Michigan	2-1-1	2-1-1	Wisconsin	4-2-0	4-2-0
Miami, Ohio	2-0-0	3-1-0	North Dakota	3-1-0	5-1-0
W. Michigan	2-2-0	2-2-0	N. Michigan	2-2-2	2-3-2
Michigan State	1-0-1	1-0-2	Minn-Duluth	3-3-0	3-3-0
Ferris State	1-2-1	1-2-1	Colorado Coll.	2-3-1	2-3-1
Bowling Green	1-3-0	1-3-0	Michigan Tech	2-1-1	2-1-1
Ohio State	1-3-0	2-3-0	Denver		2-4-0	2-4-0
Ill-Chicago	0-3-1	0-3-1	St. Cloud State	0-4-0	0-4-0

Poll:

1.	Maine
2.	Clarkson
2.	Lake Superior
4.	Michigan
5.	Minnesota
6.	Boston University
7.	North Dakota
8.	Northern Michigan
9.	Wisconsin
10.	New Hampshire
    

    John,
    I thought I read somewhere that Notre Dame joined the WCHA (or was it
    CCHA) and that it took effect this year(91-92). Do you have any
    knowledge of this? Thanks.
    
    MikeL
     

    Mike, as far as I know they have rejoined the CCHA but they are still
    listed as an independent for this season.  Don't know the record.
    
    John

    ND and Kent have been accepted into the CCHA as of next season.
    
    Joe

Hockey East			ECAC

Maine		1-0-0	3-0-0	Vermont		1-0-0	3-1-0
Boston College	1-1-0	2-4-1	Brown		0-0-0	0-0-0
New Hampshire	0-0-0	5-0-0	Clarkson	0-0-0	2-1-0
Boston Univ	0-0-0	4-0-0	Colgate		0-0-0	0-1-0	
Northeastern	0-0-0	3-1-0	Cornell		0-0-0	0-0-0
UMass-Lowell	0-0-0	2-3-0	Dartmouth	0-0-0	0-0-0
Providence	0-0-0	4-2-0	Harvard		0-0-0	0-0-0
Merrimack	0-1-0	3-2-0	Princeton	0-0-0	0-0-0
				RPI		0-0-0	2-1-0
				St. Lawrence	0-0-0	2-1-0
				Yale		0-0-0	0-0-0
				Union		0-1-0	0-2-0

CCHA				WCHA

Lake Superior	4-0-0	6-1-0	Wisconsin	6-2-0	6-2-0
Miami, Ohio	4-0-0	5-1-0	Minnesota	4-2-0	4-4-0
Michigan State	3-0-1	3-0-2	North Dakota	3-3-0	5-3-0
W. Michigan	3-2-1	3-2-1	Minn-Duluth	3-3-0	3-5-0
Michigan 	2-1-1	4-1-1	N. Michigan	2-2-2	3-4-2
Ohio State	1-4-1	2-4-1	Colorado Coll.	2-3-1	2-3-1
Ferris State	1-4-1	1-4-1	Michigan Tech	2-3-1	2-3-1
Bowling Green	1-5-0	1-5-0	Denver		2-4-0	2-6-0
Ill-Chicago	0-3-1	0-3-1	St. Cloud State	2-4-0	2-4-0

Poll:

1.	Maine
2.	Michigan
3.	Lake Superior
4.	Boston University
5.	Clarkson
6.	Wisconsin
7.	New Hampshire
8.	Northern Michigan
9.	Michigan State
10.	Minnesota
    

    The second game of the Gophers/Wisconsin weekend series was moved to
    Met Center to accomidate more fans.  I always thought they could fill
    the Met for many of these games.  With only about 100 tickets left,
    they've already broken the WCHA attendance record as over 15,000 seats
    have been sold.  They should do this more often.
    
    
    Spud

                             
    Yep I recall attending the Badger games in Madison in the Bob Johnson
    era,  - always a sellout at the Dane County Collesium (10,000 plus
    fans).   I would guess a large number of those 15,000 will be wearing
    red.   
    
    I'd love to be there - should be a great series with the Gophers right
    behind them in 2nd place - a great rivalry
    
    Pat
    

    Is my sports section upside down, or is that U-Mass Lowell in first
    place in Hockey East?
    
    
    py

    Yup.  And they beat NU at Matthews Arena earlier thised week, 4-2 and
    looked good doing it.  I think dumping Riley and bringing in Bruce
    Crowder was just what they needed.
    
    John

Hockey East			ECAC

UMass-Lowell	3-0-0	6-3-0	Clarkson	4-0-0	6-1-0
New Hampshire	3-0-0	8-0-0	Harvard		3-0-1	3-0-1
Providence	3-1-0	7-3-0	Yale		3-0-1	3-0-1
Boston College	3-2-0	4-5-1	St. Lawrence	3-1-0	5-2-0	
Maine		2-1-0	6-1-0	Brown		2-2-0	2-2-0
Boston Univ	1-3-0	5-3-0	Cornell		2-2-0	2-2-0
Northeastern	0-4-0	3-5-0	Vermont		2-2-0	4-3-0
Merrimack	0-4-0	5-5-0	Dartmouth	1-2-0	1-2-0
				Colgate		1-3-0	1-5-0
				RPI		1-3-0	3-4-0
				Union		0-3-0	0-4-0
				Princeton	0-4-0	0-4-0

CCHA				WCHA

Lake Superior	7-1-0	9-2-0	N. Michigan	6-2-2	7-3-2
Michigan	6-1-2	8-1-2	Minnesota	6-2-0	8-4-0
W. Michigan	6-3-1	6-3-1	Wisconsin	6-6-0	6-6-0
Michigan State	5-2-1	5-2-2	Minn-Duluth	5-4-1	5-6-1
Miami, Ohio	4-4-0	5-5-0	North Dakota	5-5-0	7-5-0
Ferris State	2-6-2	2-6-2	Michigan Tech	4-5-1	4-5-1
Bowling Green	2-6-0	2-6-0	Colorado Coll	3-5-2	4-5-2
Ill-Chicago	1-5-2	1-5-2	St. Cloud State	2-4-0	2-4-0
Ohio State	1-6-2	2-6-2	Denver		2-6-0	2-8-0

Poll:

1.	Maine
2.	Michigan
3.	Clarkson
4.	Lake Superior
5.	New Hampshire
6.	Minnesota
7.	Northern Michigan
8.	Michigan State
9.	Boston University
10.	St. Lawrence
    

Hockey East			ECAC

UMass-Lowell	3-0-0	6-4-0	Yale		4-0-1	4-0-1
New Hampshire	3-0-0	8-2-0	Harvard		4-1-1	4-1-1
Maine		3-1-0	9-1-0	Clarkson	4-0-0	8-1-0
Providence	3-1-0	8-3-0	St. Lawrence	3-1-0	5-3-1	
Boston College	3-2-0	6-5-1	Brown		3-3-0	3-3-0
Boston Univ	1-3-0	6-3-0	Cornell		2-2-0	2-4-0
Merrimack	0-4-0	5-7-0	Princeton	2-4-0	2-4-0
Northeastern	0-5-0	5-6-0	Vermont		2-4-0	5-5-0
				Colgate		1-3-0	1-6-1
				Dartmouth	1-3-0	1-3-0
				RPI		1-3-0	5-4-0
				Union		0-3-0	1-4-0

CCHA				WCHA

Lake Superior	8-2-0	10-3-0	Minnesota	8-2-0	10-4-0
Michigan	6-1-2	 8-1-2	N. Michigan	7-3-2	 8-4-2
W. Michigan	6-3-1	 6-3-1	Wisconsin	7-6-1	 7-6-1
Michigan State	5-2-1	 5-2-2	Minn-Duluth	5-4-1	 5-6-1
Miami, Ohio	5-4-1	 6-5-1	Michigan Tech	5-6-1	 5-6-1
Ferris State	2-6-2	 2-6-2	North Dakota	5-7-0	 7-7-0
Ill-Chicago	2-6-2	 2-6-2	Colorado Coll	4-6-2	 4-6-2
Bowling Green	2-7-0	 2-7-1	St. Cloud State	3-5-0	 3-5-0
Ohio State	1-6-2	 2-6-2	Denver		2-7-1	 2-9-1

No new poll this week.  Here's last week's again:

1.	Maine
2.	Michigan
3.	Clarkson
4.	Lake Superior
5.	New Hampshire
6.	Minnesota
7.	Northern Michigan
8.	Michigan State
9.	Boston University
10.	St. Lawrence
    

    Boy - NU is really in the dumps.  Many NU alums and fans thought the
    return of the dreaded past would come when Ferni Flaman retired.  
    
    NU has always had trouble recruiting - as most of the Mass prep stars
    want to go to BC.  Harvard and BU do a good job picking up any
    leftovers (Actually Harvard gets the real smart guys...).  New
    Hampshire seems to have made a nice comeback - and Maine is tough.
    NU's best recruiting areas have always been outside of Toronto - where
    Fernie was something of a legend.  With him gone, that pipeline might
    be gone - leaving NU to pick from the dregs of New England and to go
    further down the Canadien depth chart.
    
    Oh well...if they really suck, they have a chance to win the Beanpot!
    
    JD

    Terry Slater, head coach at Colgate, died yesterday due to
    complications from a stroke suffered earlier in the week.
    
    John

Hockey East			ECAC

Maine		5-1-0	11-1-0	Yale		6-0-1	 6-0-1
Boston College	4-3-0	 7-6-1	Clarkson	6-0-0	10-1-0
UMass-Lowell	4-0-0	 7-4-0	St. Lawrence	5-1-0	 7-3-1
New Hampshire	3-2-0	 8-4-0	Harvard		4-1-2	 4-1-2	
Providence	3-2-0	 9-4-0	Brown		3-3-1	 3-4-1
Boston Univ	2-4-0	 7-4-0	Cornell		2-2-2	 2-4-2
Northeastern	1-6-0	 6-7-0	Vermont		2-4-0	 5-5-0
Merrimack	0-4-0	 7-7-0	Princeton	2-6-0	 2-6-0
				Colgate		1-3-0	 1-6-1
				Dartmouth	1-3-0	 1-4-0
				RPI		1-5-0	 5-6-0
				Union		0-4-0	 1-5-0

CCHA				WCHA

Lake Superior	10-2-0	12-3-0	Wisconsin	9-6-1	 9-6-1
Michigan State	 7-2-1	 7-2-2	N. Michigan	8-4-2	 9-5-2
W. Michigan	 7-4-1	 7-4-1	Minnesota	8-2-0	10-4-0
Michigan 	 6-3-2	 8-3-2	North Dakota	7-7-0	 9-7-0
Miami, Ohio	 5-6-1	 6-7-1	Minn-Duluth	6-5-1	 6-7-1
Ill-Chicago	 4-6-2	 4-6-2	Michigan Tech	6-7-1	 6-7-1
Bowling Green	 3-8-1	 3-8-1	Colorado Coll	4-8-2	 4-8-2
Ferris State	 2-6-2	 2-6-2	St. Cloud State	4-6-0	 4-6-0
Ohio State	 1-8-2	 2-8-2	Denver		2-9-1	 2-11-1

Poll:

1.	Maine
2.	Lake Superior
3.	Clarkson
4.	Minnesota
5.	Michigan State
6.	Michigan
7.	Northern Michigan
8.	St. Lawrence
9.	Boston University
10.	Alaska-Anchorage
    

Hockey East			ECAC

Maine		5-1-0	11-1-0	Yale		6-0-1	 6-0-1
UMass-Lowell	4-1-0	 7-5-0	Clarkson	6-1-0	10-2-0
New Hampshire	4-2-0	 9-4-0	St. Lawrence	6-1-0	 8-3-1
Providence	4-2-0	10-4-0	Harvard		4-1-2	 4-1-2	
Boston College	4-4-0	 7-7-1	Brown		3-3-1	 3-4-1
Boston Univ	3-4-0	 8-4-0	Cornell		2-2-2	 2-4-2
Northeastern	1-6-0	 6-7-0	Vermont		2-4-0	 5-5-0
Merrimack	0-5-0	 7-8-0	Princeton	2-6-0	 4-6-0
				Colgate		1-3-0	 2-6-1
				Dartmouth	1-3-0	 1-4-0
				RPI		1-5-0	 5-6-0
				Union		0-5-0	 1-6-0

CCHA				WCHA

Lake Superior	10-3-1	12-4-1	N. Michigan	10-4-2	11-5-2
Michigan State	 7-2-3	 7-2-4	Wisconsin	 9-6-1	 9-6-1
Michigan	 7-3-3	 9-3-3	Minnesota	 8-4-0	10-6-0
W. Michigan 	 7-5-2	 7-5-2	Minn-Duluth	 7-6-1	 7-8-1
Miami, Ohio	 6-6-2	 7-7-2	Michigan Tech	 7-8-1	 7-8-1
Ill-Chicago	 4-8-2	 4-8-2	North Dakota	 7-7-0	 9-7-0
Feris State	 2-6-4	 2-6-4	St. Cloud State	 5-7-0	 5-7-0
Ohio State	 3-8-2	 4-8-2	Colorado Coll	 4-8-2	 5-8-2
Bowling Green	 3-8-1	 3-8-1	Denver		 3-10-1	 3-12-1

Poll:

1.	Maine
2.	Northern Michigan
3.	Lake Superior
4.	Clarkson
5.	Michigan 
6.	St. Lawrence
7.	Minnesota
8.	Michigan State
9.	Alaska-Anchorage
10.	Boston University
    

Hockey East			ECAC

Maine		5-1-0	13-1-0	Yale		6-0-1	 6-0-1
UMass-Lowell	4-1-0	 7-5-0	Clarkson	6-1-0	10-2-0
New Hampshire	4-2-0	 9-4-0	St. Lawrence	6-1-0	 8-3-1
Providence	4-2-0	11-5-0	Harvard		4-1-2	 4-1-2	
Boston College	4-4-0	 7-9-1	Brown		3-3-1	 3-4-1
Boston Univ	3-4-0	 9-4-0	Cornell		2-2-2	 2-4-2
Northeastern	1-6-0	 7-7-0	Vermont		2-4-0	 5-5-0
Merrimack	0-5-0	 7-8-0	Princeton	2-6-0	 4-7-0
				Colgate		1-3-0	 3-6-1
				Dartmouth	1-3-0	 1-5-0
				RPI		1-5-0	 5-6-0
				Union		0-5-0	 1-6-0

CCHA				WCHA

Lake Superior	10-3-1	12-4-1	N. Michigan	10-4-2	13-5-2
Michigan State	 7-2-3	 8-3-4	Wisconsin	 9-6-1	 9-6-1
Michigan	 7-3-3	 9-3-3	Minnesota	 8-4-0	12-6-0
W. Michigan 	 7-5-2	 7-5-2	Minn-Duluth	 7-6-1	 7-8-1
Miami, Ohio	 6-6-2	 7-7-2	Michigan Tech	 7-8-1	 7-8-1
Ill-Chicago	 4-8-2	 4-8-2	North Dakota	 7-7-0	 9-7-0
Feris State	 2-6-4	 2-6-4	St. Cloud State	 5-7-0	 5-7-0
Ohio State	 3-8-2	 4-8-2	Colorado Coll	 4-8-2	 5-9-3
Bowling Green	 3-8-1	 4-9-1	Denver		 3-10-1	 3-12-1

Poll:

1.	Maine
2.	Northern Michigan
3.	Lake Superior
4.	Clarkson
5.	Michigan 
6.	St. Lawrence
7.	Minnesota
8.	Alaska-Anchorage
9.	Michigan State
10.	Boston University
    

    New Hamshire beat Lowell.  I think the score was 6-5.
    
    Dave

    In recent tournaments, Maine won the Great Western Freezeout over
    Michigan State, Calgary and Waterloo.  Minnesota won its own Mariucci
    Tournament over Bowling Green, Boston College and Providence.  The RPI
    Invitational is thised weekend with RPI, Union, St Lawrence and
    Northeastern.  The Auld Lang Syne Tournament is also thised weekend
    with host Dartmouth, Boston University, New Hampshire and Vermont. 
    Finally, the Codfish Bowl is thised weekend at UMass-Boston with North
    Adams State, St. Anselm and Salem State.  I would imagine the Syracuse
    Tournament, the New Haven Tournament and the Anchorage Jeep-Nissan
    Tournament are also coming up soon.
    
    All these of course pale in comparison to the Beanpot, held on the
    first 2 Mondays in February at Boston Garden.
    
    John

    In tournaments this past weekend, Wisconsin won the Badger Invitational
    over Maine, Yale and Toronto.  Salem State won the Codfish Bowl. 
    Michigan won the Great Lakes Invitational over Michigan Tech, Michigan
    State and Harvard.  St Lawrence won the RPI tournament over RPI,
    Northeastern and Union.  Ohio State won the Syracuse Tournament over
    Clarkson, Colgate and Army.  Boston University won the Auld Lang Syne
    Tournament over Vermont, New Hampshire and Dartmouth.
    
    John

Hockey East			ECAC

Maine		5-1-0	14-2-0	Yale		6-0-1	 7-1-1
UMass-Lowell	4-1-0	 7-7-0	Clarkson	6-1-0	11-3-0
New Hampshire	4-2-0	10-5-0	St. Lawrence	6-1-0	10-3-1
Providence	4-2-0	11-5-0	Harvard		4-1-2	 4-3-2	
Boston College	4-4-0	 7-9-1	Brown		3-3-1	 3-6-1
Boston Univ	3-4-0	11-4-0	Cornell		2-2-2	 2-4-2
Northeastern	1-6-0	 8-8-0	Vermont		2-4-0	 6-6-0
Merrimack	0-5-0	 7-8-0	RPI		2-5-0	 6-7-0
				Princeton	2-6-0	 4-7-0
				Colgate		1-3-0	 4-7-1
				Dartmouth	1-3-0	 1-7-0
				Union		0-6-0	 1-8-0

No new standings for CCHA and WCHA in this week's paper so last week's are
below:

CCHA				WCHA

Lake Superior	10-3-1	12-4-1	N. Michigan	10-4-2	13-5-2
Michigan State	 7-2-3	 8-3-4	Wisconsin	 9-6-1	 9-6-1
Michigan	 7-3-3	 9-3-3	Minnesota	 8-4-0	12-6-0
W. Michigan 	 7-5-2	 7-5-2	Minn-Duluth	 7-6-1	 7-8-1
Miami, Ohio	 6-6-2	 7-7-2	Michigan Tech	 7-8-1	 7-8-1
Ill-Chicago	 4-8-2	 4-8-2	North Dakota	 7-7-0	 9-7-0
Feris State	 2-6-4	 2-6-4	St. Cloud State	 5-7-0	 5-7-0
Ohio State	 3-8-2	 4-8-2	Colorado Coll	 4-8-2	 5-9-3
Bowling Green	 3-8-1	 4-9-1	Denver		 3-10-1	 3-12-1

Poll:

1.	Maine
2.	Northern Michigan
3.	Lake Superior
4.	Michigan 
5.	St. Lawrence
6.	Minnesota
7.	Clarkson
8.	Wisconsin
9.	Alaska-Anchorage
10.	Boston University
    

Hockey East			ECAC

Maine		5-1-0	16-2-0	Clarkson	8-1-0	13-3-0
New Hampshire	5-2-0	11-5-0	St. Lawrence	7-1-1	11-3-2
UMass-Lowell	4-1-0	 8-8-0	Harvard		6-1-2	 6-3-2
Providence	4-2-0	13-5-0	Yale		6-1-2	 7-2-2	
Boston College	4-4-0	 7-9-1	Brown		4-3-2	 4-6-2
Boston Univ	3-4-0	12-4-0	Cornell		4-2-2	 4-4-2
Northeastern	1-6-0	10-8-0	RPI		3-6-0	 7-8-0
Merrimack	0-6-0	 9-9-0	Vermont		2-5-1	 6-7-1
				Colgate		2-4-0	 5-8-1
				Princeton	2-8-0	 4-9-0
				Dartmouth	1-5-0	 1-9-0
				Union		0-8-0	 1-10-0


CCHA				WCHA

Lake Superior	12-3-1	14-4-1	N. Michigan	10-4-2	13-5-2
Michigan 	 9-3-3	13-3-3	Wisconsin	10-7-1	12-7-1
Michigan State	 8-2-3	10-4-4	Minnesota	10-4-0	14-6-0
W. Michigan 	 7-6-2	 7-6-2	Minn-Duluth	 8-7-1	 8-9-1
Miami, Ohio	 6-6-2	 9-7-2	North Dakota	 8-8-0	12-8-0
Ill-Chicago	 5-8-3	 5-8-3	St. Cloud State	 7-8-1	 7-8-1
Bowling Green	 3-9-2	 4-10-2	Michigan Tech	 7-10-1	 8-11-1
Ferris State	 2-8-4	 2-9-5	Colorado Coll	 4-9-3	 5-10-4
Ohio State	 3-10-2	 6-10-2	Denver		 5-12-1	 5-14-1

Polls:	NCAA				Albany Times-Union

1.	Maine				1.	Maine
2.	Lake Superior			2.	Northern Michigan
3.	Northern Michigan		3.	Lake Superior
4.	Michigan 			4.	Michigan
5.	Clarkson			5.	Minnesota
6.	Minnesota			6.	St. Lawrence
7.	St. Lawrence			7.	Clarkson
8.	Wisconsin			8.	Wisconsin
9.	Michigan State			9.	Boston University
10.	Boston University		10.	Providence
11.	Providence			11.	Alaska-Anchorage
12.	Yale				12.	Michigan State
13.	New Hampshire			13.	New Hampshire
14.	Western Michigan
15.	Alaska-Anchorage
    

Hockey East			ECAC

Maine		5-1-0	16-2-0	Harvard		8-1-3	 8-3-3
New Hampshire	5-2-0	12-6-0	Clarkson	8-2-1	13-4-1
Boston Univ	5-4-0	14-4-0	St. Lawrence	8-2-1	12-5-2
Boston College	5-5-0	 8-10-1	Yale		7-1-3	 8-2-3	
UMass-Lowell	4-2-1	 8-9-1	Cornell		6-2-2	 6-4-2
Providence	4-3-1	13-6-1	Brown		5-4-2	 5-7-2
Merrimack	2-6-0	11-9-0	Colgate		4-5-0	 7-9-1
Northeastern	1-8-0	10-10-0	Princeton	4-8-0	 6-9-0
				RPI		3-8-0	 8-10-0
				Vermont		2-7-1	 6-9-1
				Dartmouth	1-7-0	 1-11-0
				Union		0-9-1	 1-11-1


CCHA				WCHA

Lake Superior	13-3-2	15-4-2	N. Michigan	11-4-3	14-5-3
Michigan State	10-2-4	12-4-5	Minnesota	12-4-0	16-6-0
Michigan 	 9-3-3	15-3-3	Wisconsin	11-8-1	13-8-1
W. Michigan 	 8-8-2	 8-8-2	Michigan Tech	 9-10-1	10-11-1
Miami, Ohio	 7-7-2	10-8-2	Minn-Duluth	 8-9-1	 8-11-1
Ill-Chicago	 6-9-3	 6-9-3	North Dakota	 8-9-1	12-9-1
Ferris State	 3-9-4	 3-10-5	St. Cloud State	 7-10-1	 7-10-1
Bowling Green	 3-10-3	 4-11-3	Denver		 6-13-1	 6-15-1
Ohio State	 3-11-3	 6-11-3	Colorado Coll	 4-9-3	 6-10-4

Polls:	NCAA				Albany Times-Union

1.	Maine				1.	Maine
2.	Lake Superior			2.	Northern Michigan
3.	Northern Michigan		3.	Michigan
4.	Michigan 			4.	Lake Superior
5.	Minnesota			5.	Minnesota
6.	Michigan State			6.	Boston University
7.	St. Lawrence			7.	St. Lawrence
8.	Boston University		8.	Clarkson
8.	Harvard				9.	Wisconsin
10.	Wisconsin			10.	Michigan State
11.	Clarkson			11.	Providence
12.	Yale				12.	Harvard
13.	Providence			13.	Alaska-Anchorage
14.	New Hampshire
15.	North Dakota
    

    
    Hawk -
    
    The Huskies are playing like they did in the seventies - when I first
    got there.  Absolutely horrible.  Like I mentioned prior to the season
    - the loss of Fernie Flaman as a recruiting tool has hurt this squad.  
    
    They were on the tube out here last week vs. Boston University.  They
    just are not talented.
    
    Oh well..
    There's always the Beanpot!
    
    JD

RE: .198			>>>ECAC

			>>>UNION 0-9-1

	That's right folks, UNION tied Yale last week 5-5.  Looks
like the DUTCHMEN are making their move on 11th place!!

MAC2

    Is this Union, NY?  What part of the state is that?
    
    
    Spud

    Union is in Schenectady, right down the road from RPI, which is in
    Troy.  In football, they battle each year for the Dutchmen's Shoes,
    which is sort of the Capital District equivalent of Floyd of Rosedale
    (the prize for the winner of the Minnesota - Iowa game).
    
    RPI also battles WPI in football for the Transit Trophy.
    
    John

    RPI roolz!!!  Don't forget the shotglass trophy with Coast Guard...
    Union has had a real productive football team, but their coach just
    left to become head coach at Penn.
    

Hockey East			ECAC

Maine		7-1-0	18-2-0	Harvard		8-1-3	 8-3-3
Boston Univ	7-4-0	16-4-0	Yale		8-1-3	 9-2-3
Providence	6-3-1	15-6-1	Clarkson	8-2-1	13-4-1
New Hampshire	6-3-0	13-7-0	St. Lawrence	8-2-1	12-5-2	
Boston College	6-6-0	 9-11-1	Cornell		7-3-2	 7-5-2
UMass-Lowell	4-4-1	 8-11-1	Brown		5-4-2	 5-9-2
Merrimack	2-8-0	11-11-0	Colgate		5-6-0	 8-10-1
Northeastern	1-10-0	10-12-0	Princeton	4-8-0	 6-9-0
				RPI		3-8-0	 9-10-0
				Vermont		2-7-1	 8-9-1
				Union		1-9-1	 2-11-1
				Dartmouth	1-9-0	 1-13-0


CCHA				WCHA

Lake Superior	13-3-2	15-4-2	Minnesota	14-4-0	18-6-0
Michigan State	11-3-4	13-5-5	Wisconsin	13-8-1	15-8-1
Michigan 	10-4-3	16-4-3	N. Michigan	11-6-3	14-7-3
W. Michigan 	10-8-2	10-8-2	Minn-Duluth	10-9-1	10-11-1
Miami, Ohio	 8-8-2	11-9-2	Michigan Tech	 9-12-1	10-13-1
Ill-Chicago	 7-9-3	 7-10-3	North Dakota	 8-11-1	12-11-1
Ferris State	 4-10-4	 4-11-4	St. Cloud State	 7-10-1	 8-10-2
Bowling Green	 4-11-3	 5-12-3	Colorado Coll	 6-9-3	 8-10-4
Ohio State	 3-13-3	 6-13-3	Denver		 6-15-1	 6-17-1

Polls:	NCAA				Albany Times-Union

1.	Maine				1.	Maine
2.	Lake Superior			2.	Lake Superior
3.	Minnesota			3.	Minnesota
4.	Michigan 			4.	Northern Michigan
5.	Boston University		5.	Boston University
6.	Northern Michigan		6.	Michigan
7.	Michigan State			7.	Clarkson
8.	Wisconsin			8.	Wisconsin
9.	Clarkson			9.	St Lawrence
10.	Harvard				10.	Harvard
11.	St. Lawrence			11.	Michigan State
12.	New Hampshire			12.	Providence
12.	Providence			13.	Alaska-Anchorage
14.	Yale				14.	New Hampshire
15.	Western Michigan		15.	Cornell
    

RE:  .205

	Check it out, folks, as predicted UNION has made their
	move out of the cellar to 11th place with their FIRST EVER
	ECAC DIVISION I WIN, a thrilling 2-1 OT triumph at
	Dartmouth this past weekend.!!!!!!
		WAY TO GO DUTCHMEN!!!

MAC2

Any of you ECAC hockey fans going to the UNION @ Hahvahd game
	on Feb 1st?   See you there!!

    Nope, going to the RPI game the night before...

Hockey East			ECAC

Maine		8-2-0	19-3-0	Harvard		8-1-3	 8-3-3
Providence	7-4-1	16-7-1	Yale		8-1-3	 9-3-3
Boston Univ	7-5-1	16-5-1	St. Lawrence	9-2-1	13-5-2
New Hampshire	7-4-0	14-8-0	Clarkson	8-3-1	13-5-1	
Boston College	6-6-2	 9-11-3	Cornell		7-3-2	 9-5-2
UMass-Lowell	5-4-2	10-11-2	Brown		5-5-2	 5-10-2
Merrimack	3-9-0	12-12-0	Colgate		6-6-0	 9-10-1
Northeastern	2-11-0	11-13-0	Vermont		4-7-1	10-9-1
				Princeton	4-8-0	 6-9-0
				RPI		4-8-0	10-10-0 
				Union		1-10-1	 2-12-1
				Dartmouth	1-11-0	 1-15-0


CCHA				WCHA

Lake Superior	15-3-2	17-4-2	Minnesota	16-4-0	20-6-0
Michigan State	12-3-4	14-5-5	Wisconsin	13-8-1	15-8-1
Michigan 	12-4-3	18-4-3	N. Michigan	12-7-3	15-8-3
W. Michigan 	12-8-2	12-8-2	Minn-Duluth	11-10-1	11-12-1
Miami, Ohio	 8-9-3	11-10-3	Michigan Tech	10-13-1	11-14-1
Ill-Chicago	 7-12-3	 7-12-3	North Dakota	 9-12-1	13-12-1
Ferris State	 5-11-5	 5-12-6	St. Cloud State	 8-11-1	 9-11-2
Bowling Green	 4-13-3	 5-14-3	Colorado Coll	 6-11-3	 8-12-4
Ohio State	 3-15-3	 6-15-3	Denver		 7-16-1	 7-18-1

Polls:	NCAA				Albany Times-Union

1.	Minnesota			1.	Maine
2.	Lake Superior			2.	Minnesota
3.	Maine				3.	Lake Superior
4.	Michigan 			4.	Michigan
5.	Michigan State			5.	Northern Michigan
6.	Northern Michigan		6.	St. Lawrence
7.	Boston University		7.	Wisconsin
7.	Wisconsin			8.	Boston University
7.	St. Lawrence			9.	Clarkson
10.	Providence			10.	Michigan State
11.	Harvard				11.	Harvard
12.	New Hampshire			12.	Providence
13.	Clarkson			13.	New Hampshire
14.	Minnesota-Duluth		14.	Alaska-Anchorage
15.	Alaska-Anchorage		15.	Yale
    

    > UMass-Lowell	5-4-2	10-11-2	
    
    oh well, it was nice while it lasted
    
    
    py

    re -.1      Last season Lowell finished with a 5-15-1 record in
    
       Hockey East if I remember correctly.  So, they are showing some
    
       improvement.  Also they are playing with a young team.  So next
    
       season they could be very competative in the league.
    
    An optomistic ULowell Fan  (UMass-Lowell that is)
    
    Dave

    UMass-Lowell beat Yale last week, beat Merrimack and tied Boston
    College.  They got off to a great start, taking some teams by surprise
    but have since reached their proper level, at or slightly below .500. 
    I think the team is better off with Bruce Crowder as head coach and
    will improve over the nexted few years.
    
    John

    MAC2
       Eddie Anvilhaid said he'll be at the Onion-Harvard hockey game. See
    if he'll buy you a hot dog.
                                         Denny

    Who's got Beanpot tickets.??
    Love ta buy
    
    MikeL
    

RE: .212
	Yeah, Denny, I heard that.  Eddie Anvilhaid has two of his
three sons @ UNION now, of course on his salary he can afford it!
	Given that salary, he should be able to afford hot dogs for
all the UNION fans at tomorrow's game!  [hold the mustard!]
	Here's hoping for a competitive game, maybe Hahvahd will
be looking ahead to the Beanpot opener on Monday night!

MAC2 

    Ah, yes, the Beanpot.  Boston's own unique mid-winter sporting
    tradition.  For all you southerners who don't speak hockey, remember
    the Big Four tournament every year?  Consider putting those 4 schools
    in the same city and consider having them play each year on the first
    and second Mondays in February.
    
    This year in the opener we have Northeastern facing off against Boston
    College at 6, in BC coach Len Ceglarski's final Beanpot and in the
    nightcap, Boston University vs Harvard (if the pairings from the Globe
    today were accurate).
    
    The two most legendary Beanpots took place within 2 years of each
    other.  The first round in 1978 took place on the night when the Great
    Blizzard of 1978 started.  12,000 people showed up.  Most of them were
    still there 3 days later.  The final round was played almost a month
    later.  In 1980, Northeastern, which had never won and had only made
    the finals 2 or 3 previous times in its history, beat Boston University
    and Boston College (both games in overtime) to win its first 'Pot.
    
    There is nothing like it.  Go anybody but BC!
    
    John

    re .214:
    
    >	Given that salary, he (Andleman) should be able to afford hot dogs for
    >    all the UNION fans at tomorrow's game!  [hold the mustard!]
    
    ...but make sure you have plenty of onions on hand.  ;-)
    
    (remember all the squaking Anvilhaid used to do when they didn't
    have onions for the hot dogs at Fenway Park?)
    
    
    py

    ...and he was right too! What good is a hot dog wifout onions?
                                        Denny

    I thought I heard NU vs. BU, not BC, in the 1st game, no?
    
    Then again, I heard it from Tank, therefore, I believe what the Ninj
    says over that slobbering behemoth anyday, even if the Ninjmain swears
    that the earth's flat and Tank says it's round....  :-)
    
    BTW, does anyone else actually feel like they're being spit on when
    listening to Tank?  If I drive off 495 because I flinch from one of
    Tank's airwave loogie's, can I sue 'BCN?
    
    Hawk
    

    Either I was doin' shrooms thised morning or I cain't read because it
    is BU vs NU and BC vs Harvard.  I just double-checked.  Many sorries.
    
    Ninj

    Oh no.  I think I heard Tank also say that the sun will crash into the
    earth at 12 noon tomorrow...
    
    :-)
    
    Hawk
    

    
>>    Either I was doin' shrooms thised morning or I cain't read because it
>>    is BU vs NU and BC vs Harvard.  I just double-checked.  Many sorries.
    
      Too late, pal. The damage is done. First Milli Vanilli then the New
     Kids and now this. Death where is thy sting ?
    
     [isfh]

    > Death where is thy sting?
    
    You probably didn't read .221 before you wrote that Tommy... :-)
    
    Hawk
    

To be properly enjoyed a hot dog needs:


	Chili, sauerkraut, onions, ketchup, mustard, relish


not necessarily in that order.

re Death Where is thy sting?

		o Isn't he doing a movie someplace?

		o Doesn't he have an album due out?

		o What?  Sting has been lipsyncing too??????


[hisf]

'Saw

    Ah, the Beanpot.
    
    Won't be there at the Gahden, but will be at the Attic Alehouse and
    Eatery in Seattle with the Seattle N.U. ALums quaffing some good N.W.
    microbrews and eating Dikka food.  
    
    JD

    He's looking for his last name in the dip...
    

    Harvard became the 2nd school in NCAA history to win its 1000th game
    (Minnesota is the other) by beating RPI 5-1 and Union 7-3.
    
    John

    	The Paper was wrong, BU, NU first game, BC Harvard 9:00pm
    
    	Dave

Beanpot Results:

Boston University	5	Northeastern 		4
Harvard			6	Boston College		4

Hockey East			ECAC

Maine		9-2-1	20-3-1	Harvard		10-1-3	11-3-3
New Hampshire	8-4-1	15-9-1	St. Lawrence	10-3-1	14-6-2
Providence	8-4-1	17-8-1	Yale		 9-2-3	11-4-3
Boston Univ	7-5-2	18-5-2	Clarkson	 9-4-1	15-6-1	
Boston College	6-6-2	 9-13-3	Cornell		 8-4-2	10-6-2
UMass-Lowell	5-6-3	10-13-3	Brown		 6-5-3	 6-12-3
Merrimack	3-11-0	12-14-0	Colgate		 7-7-0	10-11-1
Northeastern	3-11-0	12-14-0	Vermont		 6-7-1	12-9-1
				Princeton	 5-9-0	 7-10-0
				RPI		 4-9-1	10-11-1 
				Union		1-12-1	 2-14-1
				Dartmouth	1-13-0	 1-17-0


CCHA				WCHA

Lake Superior	15-5-2	17-6-2	Minnesota	18-4-0	22-6-0
Michigan 	14-4-3	20-4-3	Wisconsin	14-8-2	16-8-2
Michigan State	13-4-4	15-6-5	N. Michigan	12-9-3	15-10-3
W. Michigan 	14-8-2	14-8-2	Michigan Tech	12-13-1	13-14-1
Miami, Ohio	 8-11-3	11-12-3	Minn-Duluth	11-11-2	11-13-2
Ill-Chicago	 8-13-3	 8-13-3	North Dakota	 9-14-1	13-14-1
Ferris State	 5-11-5	 7-12-6	Colorado Coll	 8-11-3	10-12-4
Bowling Green	 4-14-4	 5-15-4	St Cloud State	 8-13-1	 9-13-2
Ohio State	 4-15-4	 7-15-4	Denver		 7-16-1	 8-19-1

Polls:	NCAA				Albany Times-Union

1.	Michigan			1.	Minnesota
2.	Minnesota			2.	Maine
3.	Maine				3.	Michigan
4.	Lake Superior			4.	Lake Superior
5.	Boston University		5.	Boston University
6.	Wisconsin			6.	Wisconsin
7.	Michigan State			7.	Northern Michigan
8.	Northern Michigan		8.	Harvard
9.	Harvard				9.	St. Lawrence
10.	St. Lawrence			10.	Michigan State
11.	Providence			
12.	Western Michigan		
12.	Yale				
14.	Alaska-Anchorage
15.	New Hampshire			
    

    This reply is intended for those weak of heart who are wimping
    out of the get together later tonight  ;^)
    
    The finals of the Beanpot Tournament will be televised on Ch 38
    starting at 8:00PM (?).  Haahvaad vs. B.U.
    
    I also think that WEEEE EEEEE IIIIII is also broadcasting.
    
    Hal Tried Hard(tm)
    
    Kev
    

Beanpot Results:

Boston University	5	Harvard			2
Boston College		5	Northeastern		3

With that win, BU coach Jack Parker has become the all-time winningest Beanpot
coach, both in terms of games won and Beanpots won.

Hockey East			ECAC

Maine		12-2-1	23-3-1	Harvard		10-1-5	11-4-5
New Hampshire	 9-5-1	16-10-1	St. Lawrence	12-3-1	16-6-2
Providence	 9-5-1	18-9-1	Clarkson	11-4-1	17-6-1
Boston Univ	 8-5-2	20-5-2	Yale		 9-2-5	11-4-5	
Boston College	 6-7-2	10-14-3	Cornell		 8-6-2	10-8-2
UMass-Lowell	 5-8-3	10-15-3	Brown		 7-5-4	 7-12-4
Northeastern	 4-11-0	13-15-0	Vermont		 7-7-2	13-9-2
Merrimack	 3-12-0	12-16-0	Colgate		 7-9-0	10-13-1
				Princeton	 5-10-1	 7-11-1
				RPI		 4-9-3	10-13-1 
				Dartmouth	2-13-1	 2-17-1
				Union		1-14-1	 2-16-1


CCHA				WCHA

Lake Superior	15-6-3	17-7-3	Minnesota	19-5-0	23-7-0
Michigan State	14-4-5	16-6-6	Wisconsin	15-9-2	17-9-2
Michigan 	14-6-3	20-6-3	Michigan Tech	13-14-1	14-15-1
W. Michigan 	14-8-2	16-8-2	N. Michigan	12-11-3	15-12-3
Miami, Ohio	 9-11-4	12-12-4	Minn-Duluth	12-12-2	12-14-2
Ill-Chicago	 8-14-4	 8-14-4	North Dakota	11-14-1	15-14-1
Ferris State	 6-11-6	 8-14-7	Colorado Coll	 9-12-3	11-13-4
Bowling Green	 6-14-4	 7-15-4	St Cloud State	 9-14-1	10-14-2
Ohio State	 4-16-5	 7-16-5	Denver		 7-16-1	 8-19-1

Polls:	NCAA				Albany Times-Union

1.	Minnesota			1.	Maine
2.	Maine				2.	Minnesota
3.	Michigan State			3.	Boston University
4.	Michigan			4.	Wisconsin
5.	Boston University		5.	Michigan
6.	Lake Superior			6.	Lake Superior
7.	Wisconsin			6.	St. Lawrence
8.	Harvard				8.	Michigan State
9.	St. Lawrence			9.	Harvard
10.	Northern Michigan		10.	Clarkson
11.	Providence			11.	Western Michigan
12.	Western Michigan		12.	Providence
12.	Yale				13.	Northern Michigan
14.	New Hampshire			14.	Alaska-Anchorage
15.	Alaska-Anchorage
    

Hockey East			ECAC

Maine		14-2-1	25-3-1	Harvard		11-1-6	12-4-6
Providence	11-5-1	20-9-1	St. Lawrence	13-4-1	17-7-2
Boston Univ	 9-5-3	21-5-3	Clarkson	12-5-1	18-7-1
New Hampshire	10-6-1	17-11-1	Yale		 9-3-6	11-5-6	
Boston College	 6-9-2	10-16-3	Cornell		 9-6-3	11-8-3
UMass-Lowell	 5-9-3	10-16-3	Vermont		 9-7-2	15-9-2
Northeastern	 4-13-0	13-17-0	Brown		 7-7-4	 7-14-4
Merrimack	 3-14-0	12-17-0	Colgate		 8-10-0	11-14-1
				RPI		 6-9-3	12-11-3
				Princeton	 6-11-1	 8-12-1 
				Dartmouth	 2-14-2	 2-18-2
				Union		 1-16-1	 2-18-1

Note:  Below are the standings for these leagues and the polls all from last
week.  I'm posting early because I won't be in on Tuesday when I usually do it.

CCHA				WCHA

Lake Superior	15-6-3	17-7-3	Minnesota	19-5-0	23-7-0
Michigan State	14-4-5	16-6-6	Wisconsin	15-9-2	17-9-2
Michigan 	14-6-3	20-6-3	Michigan Tech	13-14-1	14-15-1
W. Michigan 	14-8-2	16-8-2	N. Michigan	12-11-3	15-12-3
Miami, Ohio	 9-11-4	12-12-4	Minn-Duluth	12-12-2	12-14-2
Ill-Chicago	 8-14-4	 8-14-4	North Dakota	11-14-1	15-14-1
Ferris State	 6-11-6	 8-14-7	Colorado Coll	 9-12-3	11-13-4
Bowling Green	 6-14-4	 7-15-4	St Cloud State	 9-14-1	10-14-2
Ohio State	 4-16-5	 7-16-5	Denver		 7-16-1	 8-19-1

Polls:	NCAA				Albany Times-Union

1.	Minnesota			1.	Maine
2.	Maine				2.	Minnesota
3.	Michigan State			3.	Boston University
4.	Michigan			4.	Wisconsin
5.	Boston University		5.	Michigan
6.	Lake Superior			6.	Lake Superior
7.	Wisconsin			6.	St. Lawrence
8.	Harvard				8.	Michigan State
9.	St. Lawrence			9.	Harvard
10.	Northern Michigan		10.	Clarkson
11.	Providence			11.	Western Michigan
12.	Western Michigan		12.	Providence
12.	Yale				13.	Northern Michigan
14.	New Hampshire			14.	Alaska-Anchorage
15.	Alaska-Anchorage
    

Hockey East			ECAC

Maine		14-2-1	25-3-1	Harvard		11-1-6	12-4-6
Providence	11-5-1	20-9-1	St. Lawrence	13-4-1	17-7-2
Boston Univ	 9-5-3	21-5-3	Clarkson	12-5-1	18-7-1
New Hampshire	10-6-1	17-11-1	Yale		 9-3-6	11-5-6	
Boston College	 6-9-2	10-16-3	Cornell		 9-6-3	11-8-3
UMass-Lowell	 5-9-3	10-16-3	Vermont		 9-7-2	15-9-2
Northeastern	 4-13-0	13-17-0	Brown		 7-7-4	 7-14-4
Merrimack	 3-14-0	12-17-0	Colgate		 8-10-0	11-14-1
				RPI		 6-9-3	12-11-3
				Princeton	 6-11-1	 8-12-1 
				Dartmouth	 2-14-2	 2-18-2
				Union		 1-16-1	 2-18-1


CCHA				WCHA

Lake Superior	17-6-3	19-7-3	Minnesota	21-5-0	25-7-0
Michigan 	16-6-3	22-6-3	Wisconsin	15-9-2	17-9-2
Michigan State	14-5-6	16-7-7	N. Michigan	14-11-3	17-12-3
W. Michigan	14-8-4	16-8-4	Minn-Duluth	13-13-2	13-15-2
Ill-Chicago	 8-14-6	 8-14-6	Michigan Tech	13-16-1	14-17-1
Miami, Ohio	 9-13-4	12-14-4	North Dakota	12-15-1	16-15-1
Bowling Green	 7-14-5	 8-15-5	St Cloud State	11-14-1	12-14-2
Ferris State	 6-13-6	 8-14-7	Colorado Coll	 9-14-3	11-15-4
Ohio State	 4-16-5	 8-16-5	Denver		 7-18-1	 8-21-1

Polls:	NCAA				Albany Times-Union

1.	Minnesota			1.	Maine
2.	Maine				2.	Minnesota
3.	Michigan 			3.	Michigan
4.	Boston University		4.	Wisconsin
5.	Lake Superior			5.	Boston University
6.	Michigan State			6.	Lake Superior
7.	Wisconsin			7.	St. Lawrence
8.	Northern Michigan		8.	Michigan State
9.	Providence			8.	Harvard
10.	St. Lawrence			10.	Providence
11.	Harvard				11.	Northern Michigan
12.	Western Michigan		12.	Clarkson
13.	New Hampshire			13.	Western Michigan
14.	Alaska-Anchorage		14.	Alaska-Anchorage
15.	Clarkson			15.	RPI
    

    The T-U ranked RPI... thanks a joke... I know they had a good 
    weekend, but they're bare over .500, and aren't in their
    league.  I know they're the local boys, but come on...

    RPI drops one to Colgate over the weekend, 5-4.
    
    /Ed

Steve Cedorchuk has been named head hockey coach at Boston College replacing
the retiring Len Ceglarski.

Hockey East			ECAC

Maine		15-2-2	26-3-2	Harvard		13-1-6	14-4-6
New Hampshire	11-6-2	18-11-2	Clarkson	14-5-1	20-7-1
Providence	11-6-2	20-10-3	St. Lawrence	13-6-1	17-9-2
Boston Univ	 9-6-4	21-6-4	Yale		10-4-6	12-6-6	
Boston College	 8-9-2	12-16-3	Cornell		10-7-3	12-9-3
UMass-Lowell	 5-10-4	10-17-4	Brown		 9-7-4	 9-14-4
Northeastern	 5-14-0	14-18-0	Colgate		10-10-0	13-14-1
Merrimack	 4-15-0	13-18-0	Vermont		 9-9-2	15-11-2
				Princeton	 7-12-1	 9-13-1
				RPI		 6-11-3	12-13-3 
				Dartmouth	 2-16-2	 2-20-2
				Union		 2-17-1	 3-19-1


CCHA				WCHA

Michigan	19-6-3	25-6-3	Minnesota	22-6-0	26-8-0
Lake Superior	18-6-4	20-7-4	N. Michigan	15-12-3	18-13-3
Michigan State	14-7-6	16-9-7	Wisconsin	15-11-2	17-11-2
W. Michigan	14-9-5	16-9-5	Minn-Duluth	13-13-2	13-15-2
Miami, Ohio	11-13-4	14-14-4	Michigan Tech	13-16-1	14-17-1
Ferris State	 8-13-6	10-14-7	North Dakota	12-15-1	16-15-1
Ill-Chicago	 8-14-6	10-14-6	St Cloud State	12-15-1	13-15-2
Bowling Green	 7-16-5	 8-17-5	Colorado Coll	11-14-3	13-15-4
Ohio State	 4-19-5	 8-19-5	Denver		 8-19-1	 9-22-1

Polls:	NCAA				Albany Times-Union

1.	Michigan			1.	Maine
2.	Maine				2.	Michigan
3.	Minnesota 			3.	Minnesota
4.	Lake Superior			4.	Lake Superior
5.	Boston University		5.	Boston University
6.	Michigan State			6.	Harvard
7.	Northern Michigan		7.	Wisconsin
8.	Harvard				8.	Michigan State
9.	Providence			9.	Clarkson
9.	Wisconsin			10.	New Hampshire
11.	New Hampshire			11.	Providence
12.	Western Michigan		12.	St. Lawrence
13.	Clarkson			13.	Northern Michigan
14.	Yale				14.	Western Michigan
15.	St. Lawrence			
    

Hockey East	(FINAL)		ECAC	(FINAL)

Maine		17-2-2	28-3-2	Harvard		13-3-6	14-6-6
New Hampshire	13-6-2	20-11-2	St. Lawrence	15-6-1	19-9-2
Providence	11-8-2	20-12-2	Clarkson	15-6-1	21-8-1
Boston Univ	10-7-4	22-7-4	Yale		11-4-7	13-6-7	
Boston College	 9-10-2	13-17-3	Cornell		10-8-4	12-10-4
UMass-Lowell	 6-11-4	11-18-4	Brown		10-8-4	10-15-4
Northeastern	 6-15-0	15-19-0	Vermont		10-9-3	16-11-3
Merrimack	 4-17-0	13-20-0	Colgate		11-11-0	14-15-4
				Princeton	 9-12-1	11-13-1
				RPI		 6-12-4	12-14-4 
				Dartmouth	 3-17-2	 3-21-2
				Union		 2-19-1	 3-21-1

Playoffs:			Playoffs:

3/6	UMass-Lowell at Prov	3/3	RPI at Vermont
3/7	BC at BU			Princeton at Colgate
3/8	NU at UNH		3/7	Brown at Clarkson
	Merrimack at Maine		Cornell at Yale
					Lowest seed at Harvard
3/12	Semifinals 			second lowest seed at St Lawrence
				3/13	Semifinals
3/14	Finals			3/14	Finals

All rounds in both leagues are single elimination.  Semifinals and finals for
both leagues are at Boston Garden.

(CCHA and WCHA will be updated tomorrow)
CCHA				WCHA

Michigan	19-6-3	25-6-3	Minnesota	22-6-0	26-8-0
Lake Superior	18-6-4	20-7-4	N. Michigan	15-12-3	18-13-3
Michigan State	14-7-6	16-9-7	Wisconsin	15-11-2	17-11-2
W. Michigan	14-9-5	16-9-5	Minn-Duluth	13-13-2	13-15-2
Miami, Ohio	11-13-4	14-14-4	Michigan Tech	13-16-1	14-17-1
Ferris State	 8-13-6	10-14-7	North Dakota	12-15-1	16-15-1
Ill-Chicago	 8-14-6	10-14-6	St Cloud State	12-15-1	13-15-2
Bowling Green	 7-16-5	 8-17-5	Colorado Coll	11-14-3	13-15-4
Ohio State	 4-19-5	 8-19-5	Denver		 8-19-1	 9-22-1

Polls:	NCAA				Albany Times-Union

1.	Michigan			1.	Maine
2.	Maine				2.	Michigan
3.	Minnesota 			3.	Minnesota
4.	Lake Superior			4.	Lake Superior
5.	Boston University		5.	Boston University
6.	Michigan State			6.	Harvard
7.	Northern Michigan		7.	Wisconsin
8.	Harvard				8.	Michigan State
9.	Providence			9.	Clarkson
9.	Wisconsin			10.	New Hampshire
11.	New Hampshire			11.	Providence
12.	Western Michigan		12.	St. Lawrence
13.	Clarkson			13.	Northern Michigan
14.	Yale				14.	Western Michigan
15.	St. Lawrence			
    

    ECAC East/West
    
    East:  UMass-Boston at Middlebury, Norwich at Salem State, Bowdoin at
    Babson and Connecticut receives a bye
    
    West:  Hobart at Plattsburgh State, Rochester Tech at Elmira, Oswego
    State at Mercyhurst, Geneseo State at Fredonia
    
    All quarterfinals take place Tuesday, semifinals Friday and finals on
    Saturday
    
    ECAC North/South:
    
    North:  Southern Maine at Framingham State, Suffolk at UMass-Dartmouth,
    Fitchburg State and Assumption receive byes
    
    South:  Skidmore at Fairfield, Iona at Wesleyan, Amherst and Western
    New England receive byes
    
    all quarterfinals are Wednesday with semifinals Saturday
    
    John

Hockey East	(FINAL)		ECAC	(FINAL)

Maine		17-2-2	28-3-2	Harvard		13-3-6	14-6-6
New Hampshire	13-6-2	20-11-2	St. Lawrence	15-6-1	19-9-2
Providence	11-8-2	20-12-2	Clarkson	15-6-1	21-8-1
Boston Univ	10-7-4	22-7-4	Yale		11-4-7	13-6-7	
Boston College	 9-10-2	13-17-3	Cornell		10-8-4	12-10-4
UMass-Lowell	 6-11-4	11-18-4	Brown		10-8-4	10-15-4
Northeastern	 6-15-0	15-19-0	Vermont		10-9-3	16-11-3
Merrimack	 4-17-0	13-20-0	Colgate		11-11-0	14-15-4
				Princeton	 9-12-1	11-13-1
				RPI		 6-12-4	12-14-4 
				Dartmouth	 3-17-2	 3-21-2
				Union		 2-19-1	 3-21-1

Playoffs:			Playoffs:

3/6	UMass-Lowell at Prov	3/3	RPI at Vermont
3/7	BC at BU			Princeton at Colgate
3/8	NU at UNH		3/7	Brown at Clarkson
	Merrimack at Maine		Cornell at Yale
					Lowest seed at Harvard
3/12	Semifinals 			second lowest seed at St Lawrence
				3/13	Semifinals
3/14	Finals			3/14	Finals

All rounds in both leagues are single elimination.  Semifinals and finals for
both leagues are at Boston Garden.

CCHA	(no updates this week)	WCHA	(updated through this week)

Michigan	19-6-3	27-7-3	Minnesota	24-6-0	28-8-0
Lake Superior	18-6-4	19-9-4	N. Michigan	17-12-3	20-13-3
Michigan State	14-7-6	18-9-7	Wisconsin	17-11-2	19-11-2
W. Michigan	14-9-5	16-10-6	Colorado Coll	13-14-3	15-15-4
Miami, Ohio	11-13-4	14-14-4	Minn-Duluth	13-15-2	13-17-2
Ferris State	 8-13-6	10-14-7	Michigan Tech	13-16-1	14-19-1
Ill-Chicago	 8-14-6	10-14-6	St Cloud State	12-17-1	13-17-2
Bowling Green	 7-16-5	 8-17-5	North Dakota	12-17-1	16-17-1
Ohio State	 4-19-5	 8-19-5	Denver		 8-21-1	 9-24-1

Remaining Games:		Remaining Games:

Ferris State at Bowling Green	Colorado vs Denver (home and home)
Ohio State at Illinois-Chicago	Michigan Tech at Minnesota-Duluth
Western Mich at Lake Superior	Minnesota at North Dakota
Michigan State at Miami		St Cloud State at Wisconsin
Michigan has finished		Northern Michigan has finished

All 2-game series		All 2-game series

In the WCHA, Minnesota has finished 1st and Wisconsin and Northern Michigan
have both clinched home ice in the first round.  A win by Wisconsin puts them
in second.  Denver will finish last and everyone else is jockeying for position
and the final home ice slot.

In the CCHA,

Polls:	NCAA				Albany Times-Union

1.	Maine				1.	Maine
2.	Minnesota			2.	Minnesota
3.	Michigan 			3.	Michigan
4.	Michigan State			4.	Wisconsin
5.	Boston University		5.	Michigan State
6.	Lake Superior			6.	Boston University
7.	Wisconsin			7.	Lake Superior
8.	Northern Michigan		8.	New Hampshire
9.	New Hampshire			9.	Northern Michigan
10.	St. Lawrence			10.	St. Lawrence
11.	Harvard				11.	Harvard
12.	Providence			12.	Clarkson
13.	Western Michigan		13.	Providence
14.	Clarkson			
15.	Alaska-Anchorage		
    

    RPI beat Vermont lasted night and will play at Harvard on Saturday. 
    Haven't seen a Princeton at Colgate score yet.
    
    John

    Still haven't seen a Princeton at Colgate score but Princeton won and
    will play at St Lawrence Saturday night.
    
    In lower level playoffs, ECAC East:
    
    Middlebury 	6	UMass-Boston 	2
    Babson	7	Bowdoin		3
    Norwich	7	Salem State	5
    
    Semifinals Friday at Middlebury:  Norwich vs UConn, Babson vs Middlebury
    
    ECAC West:
    
    Plattsburgh	6	Hobart		2
    Elmira	7	Rochester Tech	2
    Mercyhurst	8	Oswego State	2
    Fredonia St	4	Geneseo State	2
    
    Semifinals Friday at Elmira:  Fredonia vs Plattsburgh, Mercyhurst vs Elmira
    
    No scores available for ECAC North/South
    
    John

    Heard it was Princeton 5 Colgate 4, John, but not 100% sure.

    The Princeton - Colgate game went double OT before the Tigers won it.
    
    ECAC North:  Southern Maine 3, Framingham State 1
    		 UMass-Dartmouth 5, Suffolk 2
    
    Semifinals:  Southern Maine at Fitchburg State, UMD at Assumption
    
    ECAC South:  Iona 7, Wesleyan 5
    		 Fairfield 5, Skidmore 4 (OT)
    
    Semifinals:  Iona at Amherst, Fairfield at Western New England
    
    John

    What are the starting times for theses playoff games?

	3/8	NU at UNH
	3/12	Hockey East Semifinals
	3/14	HE and ECAC Finals

    How much are the tickets for games at the Garden?

    Thanks in advance.

    Donald

    NU at UNH is at 2PM.  HE semis are at 5 and 8 on 3/12.  ECAC semis are
    at 5 and 8 on 3/13.  Faceoff is 5 and 8 on the 14th too but I don't
    know which game is at which time.  Tickets will probably be between
    $10-20.
    
    John

    Let's go Red!!!

    Hockey East results:
    
    Maine	7	Merrimack	0
    New Hampshire 4	Northeastern	2
    Providence	7	UMass-Lowell	0
    BC		5	BU		2
    
    Semifinals Thursday at Boston Garden:
    
    BC vs Maine, 5PM and New Hampshire vs Providence, 8PM
    
    Championship game at Boston Garden, Saturday, 8PM
    
    ECAC results:
    
    #10 RPI	4	#1 Harvard	3 (OT)
    Clarkson	8	Brown		3
    Cornell	4	Yale		1
    St Lawrence	6	Princeton	3
    
    Semifinals at Boston Garden Friday:
    
    Clarkson vs Cornell, 5PM and St Lawrence vs RPI, 8PM
    Championship game at Boston Garden, Saturday, 5PM
    
    ECAC East:  Babson 4, Connecticut 1
    ECAC West:  Plattsburgh 6, Mercyhurst 3
    
    ECAC North: Assumption 4, UMass-Dartmouth 1
    		Fitchburg State 4, Southern Maine 3
    Championship Wednesday
    
    ECAC South:	Amherst 6, Iona 2
    		Western New England 5, Fairfield 2
    Championship Wednesday
    
    John

    RPI-SLU's late game?  @&^#@&(#^(^, I was headed out of town this
    weekend....

    I would imagine so since SLU is the top remaining seed and the top seed
    almost always plays the second game.  That doesn't explain why Maine is
    playing the firsted game on Thursday night, though.
    
    John

Hockey East	(FINAL)		ECAC	(FINAL)

Maine		17-2-2	28-3-2	Harvard		13-3-6	14-6-6
New Hampshire	13-6-2	20-11-2	St. Lawrence	15-6-1	19-9-2
Providence	11-8-2	20-12-2	Clarkson	15-6-1	21-8-1
Boston Univ	10-7-4	22-7-4	Yale		11-4-7	13-6-7	
Boston College	 9-10-2	13-17-3	Cornell		10-8-4	12-10-4
UMass-Lowell	 6-11-4	11-18-4	Brown		10-8-4	10-15-4
Northeastern	 6-15-0	15-19-0	Vermont		10-9-3	16-11-3
Merrimack	 4-17-0	13-20-0	Colgate		11-11-0	14-15-4
				Princeton	 9-12-1	11-13-1
				RPI		 6-12-4	12-14-4 
				Dartmouth	 3-17-2	 3-21-2
				Union		 2-19-1	 3-21-1

Playoffs:			Playoffs:

Boston College vs Maine		Cornell vs Clarkson
Providence vs New Hampshire	RPI vs St Lawrence

CCHA	(FINAL)			WCHA	(FINAL)

Michigan	22-7-3	28-7-3	Minnesota	26-6-0	30-8-0
Lake Superior	20-8-4	22-9-4	Wisconsin	19-11-2	21-11-2
Michigan State	18-7-7	20-9-8	N. Michigan	17-12-3	20-13-3
W. Michigan	14-12-6	16-12-6	Colorado Coll	14-14-4	16-15-5
Miami, Ohio	12-14-6	15-15-6	Minn-Duluth	14-16-2	14-18-2
Ferris State	11-15-6	13-16-7	Michigan Tech	14-17-1	15-20-1
Ill-Chicago	 8-18-6	10-18-6	North Dakota	12-19-1	16-19-1
Ohio State	 8-19-5	12-19-5	St. Cloud State	12-19-1	13-19-2
Bowling Green	 7-20-5	 8-21-5	Denver		 8-22-2	 9-25-2

Playoffs:			Playoffs:

Ohio State at Michigan		North Dakota at Minnesota
Illinois-Chicago at Lake Sup	St Cloud State at Wisconsin
Ferris State at Michigan State	Michigan Tech at Northern Michigan
Miami at Western Michigan	Minnesota-Duluth at Colorado College

Polls:	NCAA				Albany Times-Union

1.	Maine				Not available
2.	Minnesota			
3.	Michigan 			
4.	Lake Superior			
5.	Michigan State			
6.	Wisconsin			
7.	Boston University		
8.	New Hampshire			
9.	Northern Michigan		
10.	St. Lawrence			
11.	Providence			
12.	Alaska-Anchorage		
13.	Clarkson			
14.	Harvard		
15.	Western Michigan
    

    Salem State at Babson
    Elmira at Plattsburgh State
    Mankato State at Wisconsin-Superior
    St. Thomas at Wisconsin-Stevens Point
    
    All series are 2 games, total goals.
    
    John

     
     Any of the ECAC Divsion I games this weekend on TV?

     -gary

    All games in both the Hockey East and ECAC playoffs will be carried on
    NESN.  SportsChannel and NESN may have some of the CCHA and WCHA games
    too.
    
    John

    Hockey East Semifinals:
    
    Maine	7	Boston College	3
    New Hampshire 5	Providence	3
    
    ECAC North:	
    
    Fitchburg	7	Assumption	4
    
    ECAC South:
    
    Amherst	5	WNEC		4 (OT)
    
    ECAC North/South final tonight, Fitchburg at Amherst
    
    John

    	I watched some of the Maine/BC game on NESN yesterday afternoon.
    There's some guy on the Maine team from Shediac N.B.  My pappy's
    from around those parts.
    
    				/Don

    I thought Amherst was playing at Fitchburg....
    
    REK

    REK, not according to the Globe, which is where I got the information.
    
    John

    ECAC semifinals both went to double OT.
    
    Cornell	4	Clarkson	3
    St Lawrence 6	RPI		5 (sorry, Walt)
    
    RPI had a 3-goal lead early in the 3rd period.  They took a penalty
    with 2 minutes to go and SLU tied it with 36 seconds left.
    
    Today, Cornell vs St Lawrence at 5 for the ECAC title and then Maine vs
    UNH at 8 for the Hockey East title.
    
    John

    St Lawrence	4	Cornell	2
    Maine	4	UNH	1
    
    In the CCHA, Michigan, Miami (O), Michigan State and Lake Superior all
    won their first round series.  Michigan will play Miami and State will
    play Lake Superior.
    
    In the WCHA, Northern Michigan was the only team to complete a first
    round sweep.  Minnesota-North Dakota, St Cloud-Wisconsin and
    Colorado-Minnesota Duluth are all tied at 1-1.
    
    Amherst beat Fitchburg 4-2 to win the ECAC North-South title.
    
    In the NCAA Division 3 playoffs, Salem State beat Babson, Plattsburgh
    State beat Elmira, Wisconsin-Superior beat Mankato State and St Thomas
    (Minn) was leading Wisconsin-Stevens Point.
    
    John

    Still no news this morning on the WCHA final results but I would like
    to give my predictions for the NCAA tournament participants:
    
    Hockey East:  Maine, New Hampshire, Providence, Boston University
    ECAC:	  St Lawrence
    CCHA:	  Michigan, Michigan State, Lake Superior
    WCHA:	  Minnesota, Wisconsin, Northern Michigan
    Independent:  Alaska-Anchorage
    
    Rationale:  I don't think Cornell's overall record is good enough to
    get them in despite their making it to the ECAC title game.  BU and
    Providence both have overall records good enough to overcome their
    lack of success in the playoffs.  I think either Clarkson or Harvard
    would have needed to have made the championship game in order to have a
    shot to get in.  
    
    The first round of the playoffs will be held in 2 sites - Detroit and
    Providence - over the weekend of March 26-29.  In Providence, the 3-6
    seeds placed there will play Thursday night, and the winners will play
    the 1-2 seeds on Saturday.  The 4 survivors, 2 from each site, will be
    in the Final Four at Albany the nexted weekend.
    
    John
    
    

     You may be right, but I'd hate to see them go four deep into
     Hockey East, and only pick one ECAC team.  I know we had this 
     discussion in here last year, so I won't rathole us again.

     Even if Harvard had made the semi's, they may have had a chance.
     Clarkson could have won the regular season if they had beat Brown
     the last night of the season, but they blew it (and then destroyed 
     them in the quarter finals a few days later). If they had won the
     division, they may have made it even with a loss in the semi's.
     Cornell just doesn't have a good enough record to make it, despite
     making it to the finals.

     Good games, though, both of the ECAC semi's.

     -gary

    Gary, I hope I'm wrong too, because I like the ECAC.  Of the ECAC
    teams, I think the only one other than St Lawrence that could be picked
    is Clarkson.  Harvard, being beat by a 10th seed at home in the
    playoffs, just doesn't deserve to go - they might if their overall
    record was good enough.  I agree, Cornell's overall record isn't good
    enough.  If Clarkson had managed to beat Cornell then there would be no
    question in my mind - they go and either Providence or BU (more likely
    Providence, since BU was more highly ranked during the season and had a
    better overall record) stays home.
    
    Just like with college hoops, the conference tourneys in college
    hockey, at least in the East, have outlived their usefulness.  Why have
    a tournament if everyone plays a full round-robin schedule during the
    season?  The ECAC tournament was started because that wasn't the case
    30 years ago.  Each night of the semifinals drew less than 6,000 people. 
    The finals drew over 12,000 (and were outdrawn by the Matignon-CM game a
    couple of nights earlier) and a friend of mine who was there told me that
    about 75% of the crowd was from either Maine or New Hampshire.  He also
    told me the area of New York where Clarkson and St Lawrence is located
    got hit with 18 inches of snow on Thursday and the teams just got out
    in time.  There was no local team in the ECAC tournament thanks to
    Harvard's loss to RPI, and the BC - Providence basketball game in the
    Big East tournament ended up being at the same time as their hockey
    teams were playing in Boston Garden.
    
    The ECAC tournament, should it continue, I believe should be moved to
    the Knickerbocker Arena in Albany.  Since the ECAC base is in New York,
    it would be more convenient for more teams and their fans to play
    there.  The only fans that would be really more inconvenienced than
    they are now are those from Harvard and Brown.  Boston is the right
    location for the Hockey East tournament but they may be better off to
    move it to Conte Forum at BC - the size is right and the rent is
    cheaper, even though it would give the Eagles a home ice advantage.
    
    John

    Colorado College beat Minnesota-Duluth last night in triple OT to win
    their series 2 games to 1.  All 3 games in this series went into OT.
    
    Joe

    Any news from Gopher land on how the Minnesota - North Dakota and
    Wisconsin - St Cloud series turned out?
    
    Ninj

    Wisconsin beat St. Clout State and Minnesota beat North Dakota.
    
    In the WCHA semifinals, CC plays Minnesota and Wisconsin plays Northern
    Michigan.
    
    
    Joe

    re John:
    
    There was an editorial in the Albany paper (surprise) saying they may
    move the tournament to Albany.  This was the last year of the lease
    with the Gahden and the ECAC.  It's closer to the middle
    geographically, and has 2 local teams (RPI, Union).
    
    Saw the end of the RPI-SLU game.  Heard a couple of calls were
    questionable which led to the power play, but that was based on the
    biased radio call.  Too bad though, would have been nice...
    
    -Walt
    

    Walt, what is it with you and that Albany paper?  You always seem to
    quote from it but I have it from my sources that you're a RPI guy livin
    fairly far away from the Noo Yawk Capital District.
    
    deen ot wonk.....
    
    Curiously Ur's,
    Kev
    

    Yeah, but I went to visit Mom and Dad this past weekend outside of
    Albany...

     Ya wouldn't happen to know of a newcaster on one of the Albany
    stations named Ken Screven would ya?  From what I recall, his
    exposure has been both on a radio station and as a news reporter.
    
    My reason for asking is he's a school buddy of mine (Molloy) and
    I like to know what happened to him.
    
    deen ot wonk,
    Kev
    

    Salem State plays Wisconsin-Stevens Point and Plattsburgh plays
    Wisconsin-Superior in the NCAA Division 3 semifinals Friday night at
    Plattsburgh.  The title game is Saturday night.
    
    NCAA Division 1 polls:
    
    1.	Maine
    2.	Michigan
    3.	Minnesota
    4.	Lake Superior
    5.	Michigan State
    6.	Wisconsin
    7.	St Lawrence
    8.	Northern Michigan
    9.	Boston University
    10.	New Hampshire
    11.	Alaska-Anchorage
    12.	Clarkson
    13.	Providence
    14.	Miami (Ohio)	Wonder how long it's been since they've been here?
    15.	The Colorado College	see above next to Miami (Ohio)
    15.	Harvard
    
    John

    Minnesota under coach Doug Woog has
    
    		1) Never won the WCHA tournament
    		2) Never won the NCAA Title
    
    Granted, when they lost to Harvard a few years back they'd played the
    day before and Harvard was on two day's rest (something that's since
    been fixed by the NCAA tournament commission)... but that sorta thing
    tends to even out over the years.
    
    MrT

    Wail T,
    Don't Michigan Tech, Wisconsin steal all dat Minny talent out from
    under his probiscus? Or is an underachiever coach-wise as well as
    recruit-wise?
    
    MikeL
    
    

    Did UMD win it at all when Hull was there?  

    Northern Michigan beat Minnesota 4-2 to win the WCHA title.  Earlier,
    NM beat Wisconsin 6-3 and Minnesota beat Colorado College 5-1.
    
    The CCHA finals are tonight with Michigan (6-2 winners over Miami) and
    Lake Superior (5-3 winners over Michigan State) facing off.
    
    In Division 3, the National Title went to Plattsburgh, 7-3 winners over
    Wisconsin-Stevens Point.  Salem State won the consolation, 7-6 (OT)
    over Wisconsin-Superior.  Stevens-Point beat Salem 12-7 in the semis
    while Plattsburgh beat Superior 8-5.
    
    Spud, in answer to your question in the high school note, the teams in
    this part of the country have a generous amount of Massachusetts kids,
    occasionally some kids from the Midwest (Harvard and for some reason,
    Providence seem to lead in Minnesota kids) and depending on the
    schools, some Canadians.  BC prides itself on being 100% American and
    has never had a Canadian kid play for them.  BU used to be about 50/50
    American/Canadian but has made great inroads in beating BC for good
    Massachusetts kids, especially out of the Catholic schools.  NU is
    usually about 50/50 Canadian/American.  Maine and New Hampshire always
    have a few Western Canadian kids.  Vermont always has a few out of
    Quebec since their campus is only 2 hours from Montreal.  The most
    Canadian-based team in the east is Cornell (a/k/a the University of
    Ontario at Ithaca) who seldom has more than 5 Canadian kids on the
    team.
    
    Mike Leary, which issue of SI had the article on Culver?
    
    Ninj

    		East Seeds		West Seeds
    
    1		Maine			Michigan
    2		St Lawrence		Minnesota
    3		New Hampshire		Lake Superior
    4		Boston University	Northern Michigan
    5		Clarkson		Michigan State
    6		Alaska-Anchorage	Wisconsin
    
    Alaska-Anchorage as the at-large team got placed in the East.  I
    correctly guessed 11/12 a couple of weeks ago with the only one wrong
    being my pick of Providence over Clarkson.
    
    At Providence:
    
    Thursday:  	Boston University vs Michigan State, winner faces Maine
    		New Hampshire vs Wisconsin, winner faces St Lawrence
    
    At Detroit:
    
    Thursday:	Northern Michigan vs Clarkson, winner faces Michigan
    		Lake Superior vs Alaska-Anchorage, winner faces Minnesota
    
    John

    Ninj,
    
    SI's latest issue, which I got in the mail last Thursday (3/19). Don't
    recall offhand who is on the cover. Neat thing is that Culver Academy's
    coach was an assistant( or played under) Charlie Holt at UNH. Good
    story.
    
    BTW, Congrats on UMASS! Mash Mashburn et Co.
    
    MikeL
    

    Anyone want to go to Providence Saturday night?
    
    Ninj

    Michigan State	4	Boston University	2
    Wisconsin		4	New Hampshire		2
    
    Michigan State plays Maine and Wisconsin plays St Lawrence on Saturday.
    
    John

    Ninj -
    
    I'll probably already *be* in Providence Saturday night, at a
    post-rugby drinkup.  What time and where is the hockey?  and I'll meet
    you there.
    
    Anybody else?
    
    A&W

    Civic Center.  First game starts at 5.  I won't be there right at 5 but
    I would like to go down.
    
    Ninj

    How much to get into the games saturday night?
    
    Hawk
    

    probably around $15-20.  With the only remaining New England team being
    Maine, chances are there'll be lots of tickets.  I'm going.  Good
    opportunity to forget about last night - and not watch the Kentucky vs
    Duke game with thoughts of what might have been.
    
    Ninj

    I can't make it, but it sounds fun...
    

    Western first round:
    
    Lake Superior	7	Alaska-Anchorage	3
    Northern Michigan	8	Clarkson		4
    
    Lake Superior plays Minnesota and Northern Michigan plays Michigan
    today.
    
    Eastern quarterfinals:
    
    Wisconsin		5	St. Lawrence		2
    Michigan State	3	Maine			2
    
    A&W and I went to Providence.  The Wisconsin game wasn't much of a
    contest but MSU's upset over Maine was a classic.  State grabbed a 3-1
    lead in the second period on a bad goal - Maine goalie Garth Snow left
    a bad rebound.  Maine scored late in the second and then State hung on
    for dear life the rest of the way.  Maine had few bounces go their way
    in the 3rd period and when they did get any, State goalie Mike Gilmore
    held the fort.  This was in an end of the rink that was all Maine fans.
    
    This sets up a potential all-Big Ten Final Four in hockey if Michigan
    and Minnesota win today, with Wisconsin vs Michigan and State vs
    Minnesota.  In Albany, of all places.
    
    Nexted year's Final Four is in Milwaukee and is hosted by Wisconsin.
    
    John

    Western Quarterfinals:
    
    Lake Superior	8	Minnesota		3
    Michigan		7	Northern Michigan	6
    
    Down 6-3 late in the second period, Michigan mounted a fierce comeback,
    scoring with 1 second left in the second period and getting 3 in the
    3rd.  The winner came with 1:38 left.  I imagine with games like this
    and their basketball game yesterday, Ann Arbor must have really been
    rocking!
    
    In Thursday's quarterfinals, State plays Superior and Michigan plays
    Wisconsin.
    
    With 3 teams in hockey's Final Four and 2 in men's hoops, there cain't
    be much doubt who the top conference is this winter.  Big Ten, no
    question.
    
    John

    Well, in spite of sitting in the middle of the Maine block of fans, I
    found myself rooting for Michigan State as my Big Ten bigotry came out
    bigtime.  :-)  In spite of that, I feel badly for the folks from Maine. 
    They played a great game, and had even one of about 4 shots that banged
    off the pipes and out in the third gone in, I'm sure they would have
    won the game.  That third period was some of the most intense hockey
    I've seen -- quick, good passing, good shots, great goal-tending, no
    penalties.  And the second period had had a lot of penalties.  Looked
    like both coaches had told the players to just play during the break 
    between the periods, and their teams followed through.  
    
    A&W

    And, Wisconsin still has the best fans in college hockey.  Though Maine
    had more fans for their game, the Wisconsin fans outdo anybody in sheer
    lunacy and loyalty.  Folks were actually doing the polka in the aisles
    when the Wisconsin band started up with the Budweiser song ending in
    "When you say Wisconsin, you've said it all".  Interesting contrast
    between the Wisconsin band and a lone trumpeter for St Lawrence.
    
    The Maine fans are good.  I can just imagine what they're like at a
    game in Orono.  Heard one Maine rooter say the school sold 3,000
    tickets and there were easily 20 buses outside the Civic Center after
    the game.  St Lawrence had a few fans and they were pretty quiet but
    then again, they didn't have much to cheer about.  The State fans,
    probably the smallest contingent, probably went home the happiest.
    
    The 3rd period was outstanding especially when contrasted with a fairly
    out-of-hand second period.
    
    All kinds of people, not just the Wisconsin folks, were wearing buttons
    with the famous Badger Bob Quote "It's a great day for hockey" and it
    was on a big banner walking into the Civic Center.
    
    John

    Semifinals:
    
    Lake Superior	4	Michigan State	2
    Wisconsin		4	Michigan	2
    
    Championship:
    
    Lake Superior	5	Wisconsin	3
    
    The Badgers blew a 2-0 first period lead.  It was 3-3 until the Lakers
    scored with less than 5 minutes to go, and then they added an empty net
    goal for the 5-3.  I was probably the only person in here watching
    hockey instead of basketball on Saturday night.
    
    John

    
    Well I didn't get to see the whole game and missed the entire 2nd
    period.  
    
    There have been lots complaints by the Wisconsin players in the local
    press about poor officiating.   Lake S. had two 5 on 3 advantages in 
    the 2nd period when they tied the score.   Plus a penalty was called 
    on UW in the final 5 minutes when they were down 4-3.   
    
    I hate to see games reduced to "officiating arguments", and can't
    really comment on how valid Wisconsin's claims are.    From what I did
    see it was a closely contested game.  Lake S. scored the game winner on
    a great individual play.   
    
    The Badgers had a great year and were not expected to go far.   Anyone
    else have comments on the officiating.
    
    Pat

    From having watched most of the game, the officiating was bad but it
    was consistent.  I read an analysis of the power play situations and
    they came out just about even.  The one that really killed Wisconsin
    came with 3 minutes to go in the game - it was an attempt at a flying
    elbow that missed but the Badger player got called for it anyway.  LSSU
    didn't score but they kept the pressure on and prevented Wisconsin from
    pulling goalie Duane Derksen until there were 30 seconds to go.
    
    The winning goal was a bad play by Derksen.  A Lake Superior player
    swung around the net and Derksen didn't get over to cover the post
    quickly enough.
    
    While the Badger fans kept up their usual high level of sportsmanship,
    the same can't be said by the players.  The Lakers scored an empty net
    goal with 2 seconds left and the Wisconsin players not only were giving
    the officials a hard time, but started several fights with the Lake
    Superior players.  Wisconsin had no reason to complain.  They were a
    5th or 6th seeded team that made the championship game and like I said,
    the officiating, while bad, was bad both ways.
    
    John 

		Taken without permission from the April 23rd edition of
	the Boston Globe

		The NCAA banned Wisconsin hockey coach Jeff Sauer and
	players Blaine Moore and Jason Zent from the team's next NCAA 
	tournament game because of improper conduct after this year's 
	championship game April 4 in Albany, N.Y. The school also was
	ordered to forfeit the $50,000 it would have received for the
	game. The penalties arose from a fracas at the end of the
	penaltyfilled game won by Lake Superior State, 5-3. After the 
	game, Wisconsin players encircled and berated referee Tim
	McConaghy.

    The Worcester Centrum will be one of the regional sites for the NCAA
    hockey tournament during the weekend of March 25-28, 1993.  Joe Louis
    Arena in Detroit will be the other site.  The finals will be at the
    Bradley Center in Milwaukee on April 1 and 3.
    
    The NCAA will sponsor a Division 2 tournament for the first time since
    1984.  The two top teams will be picked by a committee and there will
    be a two game playoff for the title.  Eligible schools are New
    Hampshire College, Bemidji State, American International, Assumption,
    Mercyhurst, Quinnipiac, Saint Anselms, Saint Michaels and Stonehill.
    
    Hockey East has changed its quarterfinal format yet again.  It will be
    a 2-game series with sudden death if the series is tied after 2 games.
    
    John

    How/when can we get tickets to the regionals?
    
    -Walt
    

    Not advertised yet but don't worry.  If past history is any indication,
    walking up to the ticket window on the night of the game should do it.
    
    John

    While I was on vacation, I read that after 31 years of being played in
    Boston (5 in Boston Arena and 26 in Boston Garden), the ECAC hockey
    tournament is being moved to New York State.  I can't remember whether
    it will be in the Knickerbocker Arena in Albany or if it will be in
    Lake Placid, but it will be the weekend of March 19-20.  Hockey East
    will have its finals in Boston Garden the same weekend.
    
    For the past couple of years, the ECAC and Hockey East have been
    participating in something called HockeyFest, where one league would
    have its semifinals on a Thursday, the other league would have its
    semifinals on a Friday and both leagues would play their championship
    games on Saturday.  The ECAC wanted to return to its prior format of 2
    semifinals on Friday and then a consolation and championship game on
    Saturday.  They couldn't work out the dates.
    
    Dates and so on aside, it makes more sense for the ECAC to play its
    games in New York instead of in Boston since there are only 4 of its 
    schools really close to Boston - Harvard, Brown, Dartmouth and Yale.  
    Playing in Albany or Lake Placid, RPI, Union, Colgate, Cornell,
    Clarkson and St Lawrence seem to be reasonably close and it's closer to
    both Princeton and Vermont.  It also means the leagues are forging more
    of an individual identity instead of trying to get back closer together
    and I'm not sure whether that's good or bad.
    
    While I now watch more Hockey East games both live and on TV than ECAC
    games, I'll miss the ECAC tournament.
    
    John

    Lake Placid won the bid...

    About a month ago I ordered NCAA regional tix.  Just got two for Friday
    3/26 and two for Saturday 3/27.  Get to see two games each night.  Good
    seats too!  Both pairs are supposed to be a Christmas present for my 
    brother... 
    
    Anyone else order 'em?

    I didn't... where are they?  (The seats...)
    

    Section 107 row EE, can't remember the seat numbers...