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Title:Early Digital RISC architectures
Notice:So early, we didn't *KNOW* they were RISCy!
Moderator:ATLANT::SCHMIDT
Created:Tue Feb 27 1990
Last Modified:Fri May 09 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:210
Total number of notes:1350

207.0. "Help please..never ready RL01" by TALLIS::GREENMAN () Mon Feb 24 1997 11:24

    I've got a 1980 DEC Datasystem.... 11/34a and a couple of RL01s.
    
    One of the RL01s has quit working. The "ready" light no longer
    lights and you cannot open the door. When opening the door from
    the panel on the side (defeating the lock), the spindle is rotating
    slowly. That is described in the docs as normal behavior for about
    15 seconds, at which point it stops and the "ready" light lights. The
    spindle is not stopping.
    
    Applying power to the unit (with the cpu off) lights the drive light
    and the fault light. Not the ready light. Turning on the cpu turns
    off those lights.
    
    I'm running RT-11 V5.6, XM MTTY monitor (the system has a DZ-11).
    
    The other drive boots and runs fine.
    
    This does not kill the system as the 256KB memory is exactly enough
    (with 16 blocks to spare!) to create a VM, put enough up there to
    run the machine and do I/O with VTCOM/TRANSF between the 34a and a
    PRO350 in another part of the house.
    
    I have all the documentation but no diagnostics.
    
    If anyone has any thoughts on this, I'd appreciate hearing from you.
    
    Thanks,
    Charlie
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207.1ATLANT::SCHMIDTSee http://atlant2.zko.dec.com/Mon Feb 24 1997 21:3030
Charlie:

> Applying power to the unit (with the cpu off) lights the drive light
> and the fault light. Not the ready light. Turning on the cpu turns
> off those lights.

  I believe THIS was normal behavior. If the drive isn't getting
  the clock (and a constant data stream?) from the controller,
  it calls this a fault.

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  I don't recall how the spindle motor control circuits of the
  RL01/2 worked, but I'd expect that if you have a second, working
  drive, you could compare things pretty easily. This was still
  back in the days when things were built out of small-scale
  integration and discrete parts, and could actually be fixed.

  It sounds like your drive is keeping the electronic brake applied;
  that's why the spindle continues turning slowly. Try giving the
  spindle a turn with your hand and see if there's a lot of drag.

                                   Atlant


P.S.: On the other hand, if you were getting seek errors, I could
      teach you how to tighten up that #^@%$@ dial-cord positioner.
      I once wore one of those out *several times over* discovering
      that the RSTS/E driver's error handler wasn't properly recov-
      ering from RL02 seek errors.