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Conference 7.286::macintosh

Title:Apple Macintosh Volume II
Notice:Mac is NOT an acronym - it's Mac or Macintosh *not* MAC
Moderator:SMURF::BINDERONS
Created:Sun Jan 20 1991
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:964
Total number of notes:30983

412.0. "Apple's Personal Digital Assistant, "Newton"" by RT128::BATES (NAS-ty Boy) Sun May 03 1992 03:29

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412.1CECV05::ARONSONTags Fun,but I'm tired of being it !Mon May 04 1992 19:219
412.2PhotoLink today (and yesterday!)GUCCI::NFERGUSONTANSTAAFLMon May 04 1992 20:027
412.3So when's our turn & who's stopping us?GLDOA::MORRISONDaveTue May 05 1992 03:544
412.4WARP5::LARUEJeff LaRue: U.S. Network Resource CenterTue May 05 1992 21:459
412.5Good but...LEMAN::BURKHALTERWed May 06 1992 09:208
412.6WARP5::LARUEJeff LaRue: U.S. Network Resource CenterWed May 06 1992 22:159
412.7Seriously looking at the PDAALAMOS::ADAMSVisualize Whirled PeasThu May 07 1992 14:0616
412.8Not with today's Aplha chip, power&heat, Oy Vey!GUCCI::NFERGUSONTANSTAAFLThu May 07 1992 15:4113
412.9Alpha doesn't have to be hot!FASDER::AHERBAl is the *first* nameFri May 08 1992 11:5510
412.10Think of it a s evolution in actionGUCCI::NFERGUSONTANSTAAFLFri May 08 1992 12:5814
412.11How many mips is my Mac SE?FASDER::AHERBAl is the *first* nameFri May 08 1992 16:1410
412.12No Alpha chip ready any time soonGUCCI::NFERGUSONTANSTAAFLFri May 08 1992 17:2416
412.13low power at Fclk=100MHz limited by CV**FORACLE::WATSONN1GNB, DTN 225-4898, 293-5922Fri May 08 1992 17:4627
412.14Someday, sure, but not RSNGUCCI::NFERGUSONTANSTAAFLFri May 08 1992 17:5617
412.15You may be right about timing (I hope not!)ORACLE::WATSONN1GNB, DTN 225-4898, 293-5922Fri May 08 1992 18:1512
412.16PDA = ? VUPS?MVDS02::HARROWJeff - The System is the Sum...Fri May 08 1992 18:537
412.17chip performance != user performanceGUCCI::NFERGUSONTANSTAAFLFri May 08 1992 19:179
412.18CREATV::QUODLINGKen, Me, and a cast of extras...Fri May 08 1992 21:545
412.19I'll be happy to get data compatibilityFASDER::AHERBAl is the *first* nameSun May 10 1992 13:0811
412.20MAC/OS on Alpha someday???GLDOA::MORRISONDaveMon May 11 1992 15:283
412.21Where can we get a look?ERLANG::BACKESMon May 11 1992 15:318
412.22PDA Demo'ed soon, Shipping rumored 1/93GUCCI::NFERGUSONTANSTAAFLMon May 11 1992 15:4211
412.23Mac IIfx ~ 3.something SPECmarksSWAM2::DAVIS_RIRich DavisTue May 12 1992 19:4712
412.24"Newton" technology announced for PDA and moreMVDS02::HARROWJeff - The System is the Sum...Sat May 30 1992 15:067
412.25Newton - first press reportsMVDS02::HARROWJeff - The System is the Sum...Sat May 30 1992 15:10167
412.26Newton - Apple Press ReleaseMVDS02::HARROWJeff - The System is the Sum...Sat May 30 1992 15:22159
412.27"Soft" Newton details, + it's relevance to DECMVDS02::HARROWJeff - The System is the Sum...Tue Jun 02 1992 15:23407
412.28Digital already doing it?WARP5::LARUEJeff LaRue: U.S. Network Resource CenterTue Jun 02 1992 16:1611
412.29Please specifyMVDS02::HARROWJeff - The System is the Sum...Tue Jun 02 1992 16:397
412.30WARP5::LARUEJeff LaRue: U.S. Network Resource CenterWed Jun 03 1992 16:028
412.31Newton is (will be) assistant, not toolGUCCI::NFERGUSONTANSTAAFLWed Jun 03 1992 17:2223
412.32WARP5::LARUEJeff LaRue: U.S. Network Resource CenterWed Jun 03 1992 18:5110
412.33CALS::THACKERAYWed Jun 03 1992 21:2310
412.34newton is more than just organizer appsGUCCI::NFERGUSONTANSTAAFLThu Jun 04 1992 13:065
412.35CALS::THACKERAYThu Jun 04 1992 14:5719
412.36more folks need/want Newton than PBs ($ for Apple)GUCCI::NFERGUSONTANSTAAFLThu Jun 04 1992 15:3115
412.37A full keyboard is too big too carry.TOOLS::BLOCKP::nethCraig NethThu Jun 04 1992 19:3821
412.38Pen-only now, later voice I/OGUCCI::NFERGUSONTANSTAAFLThu Jun 04 1992 20:0714
412.39"Newton Technology - An Overview Of A New Technology From Apple"MVDS02::HARROWJeff - The System is the Sum...Thu Jun 04 1992 20:21697
412.40Newton-related technologies, plus Newton - The SoftwareMVDS02::HARROWJeff - The System is the Sum...Fri Jun 05 1992 20:01334
412.41Article: Apple's PDA future at handMVDS02::HARROWJeff - The System is the Sum...Sun Jun 07 1992 16:5387
412.42Skytel brings mobile computing to Apple's NewtonEVMS::NORDLINGERTo read the unreachable STAR::Wed Jun 17 1992 12:5321
412.43Digital Has "The Vision", Too - Let's Use It!MVDS02::HARROWJeff - The System is the Sum...Thu Jun 18 1992 17:2944
412.44Some Vision isn't enoughGUCCI::NFERGUSONTANSTAAFLThu Jun 18 1992 18:5713
412.45Evangleism will pay off.KAOM25::TOMKINSThis MIND left BLANK INTENTIONALLYSat Jun 20 1992 04:4529
412.46Apple + Toshiba = Newton #2MVDS00::HARROWJeff - The System is the Sum...Sun Jun 28 1992 13:1051
412.47More details on Apple/Toshiba "SweetPea" PDAMVDS02::HARROWJeff - The System is the Sum...Thu Jul 02 1992 01:0451
412.48Motorola and Apple's Newton PlansMVDS02::HARROWJeff - The System is the Sum...Thu Jul 02 1992 01:1166
412.49IBD Article on Newton S/W - Is it true?MRKTNG::SHIDERLYSun Sep 06 1992 15:42137
412.50Interview: Apple's Tesler on Newton PDA developmentMVDS02::HARROWJeff - The System is the Sum...Sat Sep 12 1992 21:29333
412.51Newton delayed until mid-1993AOSG::NORDLINGERTo reach the unreachable STAR::Wed Sep 23 1992 17:336
412.52More Newton Info - Due April/May, 1993MVDS02::HARROWJeff - The System is the Sum...Mon Sep 28 1992 23:2465
412.53Newton's 2nd wave and PCMCIAAOSG::NORDLINGERAlpha OSF dtn 381-2894Tue Mar 23 1993 17:49159
412.54MORTAL::PDA notes conferenceAOSG::NORDLINGERVMS -> WNT: WNT -> XOU (Xopen Unix)Tue Jun 15 1993 19:024
412.55Newton On Sales @ MacWorld in AugustHANNAH::VOBATue Jul 20 1993 12:5163
412.56Best price for Developer's Toolkit?YEOLD::ROBBINSWorth RobbinsWed Aug 04 1993 18:557
412.57Lincoln meets Newton story: Excerpt from RISKS DIGEST 15.06CALDEC::GOETZEThe guard is tired, again.Thu Oct 07 1993 19:0320
412.58Is the Newton Modem usable on a Mac ?HBSRVR::JENKINSHostBridge MVS, VM, VSE, OS/400, AIX, OS/2 EngineeringMon Feb 21 1994 15:209
412.59Data side of the Netwon modem is usableMLNCSC::MILANAPatior ut Potiar...NETWORKS:Tue Feb 22 1994 14:169
412.60Has anyone else played with the"new" 120?ICS::ZAHARCHUKThu Feb 16 1995 16:4512
412.61ATLANT::SCHMIDTE&RT -- Embedded and RealTime EngineeringFri Feb 17 1995 12:0512
412.62NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu May 22 1997 15:3951
Newton unit will separate from Apple's core

By Julie Schmit, USA TODAY

PALO ALTO, Calif. - Apple Computer will spin off its Newton hand-held
computer unit as a wholly owned subsidiary.

An announcement is expected within days, ending months of speculation about
Apple's most controversial product. Apple had explored numerous options for
Newton, including a sale or partnership.

But Apple's woes and the Newton's checkered past resulted in low-ball
discussions, analysts say. Apple also decided that as a separate division
Newton could benefit from renewed focus, more easily attract outside
investors and wouldn't be distracted by Apple's problems.

Apple refused comment.

Newton is the operating system for Apple's MessagePad 2000 and eMate, a
portable device for kids. The first Newton product, introduced in 1993,
flopped because the technology didn't work. The latest, the MessagePad
2000, costs about $1,000, is much improved and is selling well, Apple says.
The $700 eMate is a big hit in the education market. By keeping Newton,
Apple retains control of the eMate, which was one of its biggest
priorities.

Apple had shopped the Newton to Hewlett-Packard, Sun Microsystems, Inventec
of Taiwan and others. Whether anyone made a serious offer is unclear. About
two years ago, Apple valued Newton at about $200 million.

But the Newton's inability to turn a profit and concerns about Apple's
future depressed its value, analysts say. Apple has lost $1.6 billion the
past six quarters and isn't expected to return to profitability until later
this year, if then.

Despite Newton's unprofitable past, the worst might be over. Not only are
current models selling well, but the hand-held market is growing fast. It
grew 29% last year with shipments reaching 1.6 million units, market
researcher Dataquest says. The hottest mover is U.S. Robotics' Pilot, which
has 51% market share. The market is expected to grow 23% this year, faster
than the personal computer market.

Now that Apple has made a decision, analysts speculate MessagePad sales
might surge because buyers had been in a wait-and-see mode.

Some companies that make software for the Newton were hoping for an
outright sale. Apple's problems have hurt Newton sales because buyers are
fearful that Apple won't be around long term. Whether spinning it off
solves that problem remains to be seen. "We spend over half of our time
defending Apple," says Stan George, president of software maker PDA
Solutions.
412.63eMateMAL009::MAGUIREThu May 22 1997 16:0310
    re the mention of eMate and the student population.  
    
    Columns I've read in the Wall Street Journal and another major
    newspaper, have expressed very high opinions of the eMate, and also the
    disappointment that is not available to "grownups", i.e. reporters,
    business people, those who do a lot of travelling.  It is said to be
    superior to the bulk and "cumbersome-ness" of a regular lap top.
    
    There must be someone in Apple that hears this lament?  No?  I wouldn't
    mind forking over $700 or $800 for something so fine. 
412.64ROCK::SARRAZINDavid B. SarrazinThu May 22 1997 17:544
I think they were expecting grown-ups to buy the ~$1000 Message Pad 2000.
It's supposedly 8X faster than the last Newton (the 130).  For those who
didn't know, it is powered by a StrongArm chip designed by our very own
Digital Semiconductor in Austin and fabbed here at HLO in Hudson, Mass.
412.65NPSS::NEWTONThomas NewtonThu May 22 1997 22:542
So put the StrongARM into an eMate-type package and sell it, already ...
412.66STAR::EVANSFri May 23 1997 18:365
I think the StrongARM is in the eMate.  It runs on 4 AA batteries.

Jim

412.67COVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertFri May 23 1997 20:043
The StrongARM is in both the eMate and the new Newton.

/john