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Conference moira::learning_disabilities

Title:Learning Disabilities
Notice:Policies - note 1; Intros - note 4; Events - note 69
Moderator:NOTIME::SACKS
Created:Thu Sep 29 1988
Last Modified:Wed May 21 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:249
Total number of notes:1709

241.0. "Math problems" by YIELD::STOOKER () Wed Mar 20 1996 19:27

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241.1Professional TutoringNETCAD::CURRIERMon Mar 25 1996 14:016
241.2NETCAD::CURRIERMon Mar 25 1996 14:027
241.3OOYES::WEIERPatty, DTN 381-0877Tue Mar 26 1996 19:0170
241.4Check out Montessori methods and aidsROCK::RAMEYTue Mar 26 1996 20:3413
241.5WRKSYS::INGRAHAMAndyTue Mar 26 1996 20:4932
241.6YIELD::STOOKERWed Mar 27 1996 12:3725
241.7OOYES::WEIERPatty, DTN 381-0877Wed Mar 27 1996 18:2047
241.8YIELD::STOOKERThu Mar 28 1996 16:1419
241.9Numbers and Time Concepts ALFA2::MCGINNISMon Apr 08 1996 17:3531
241.10Still having math problems. Incapable of memorizing?YIELD::STOOKERThu Dec 12 1996 16:3836
241.11Could be 'timed testing' issueAWARD::MAGNILois, 297-3246Fri Dec 13 1996 11:2911
241.12Core Evaluation scheduled in January.YIELD::STOOKERFri Dec 13 1996 19:1510
241.15Math problemsGLOWS::KENEFICKThu Dec 19 1996 16:1618
241.16Little Tricks with MathALFA2::MCGINNISThu Dec 19 1996 17:2958
241.17problem with a particular learning skillNETCAD::CURRIERFri Jan 03 1997 12:0728
241.18NOTE 241.17 - REFORMATTED TO 80 CHARSALES::SIMMONSFri Jan 24 1997 17:4841
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Hi,

Math is another umbrella term.  A child may do poorly in computation but do
very well in comprehension and problem solving.  Some people can memorize
tables very easily.  For others it takes years of doing computation over and
over again.  The teacher who expects extra work with the flash cards is all
that is needed doesn't know very much about the dynamics of learning.  It's a
shame that people are certified to teach who haven't internalized psych of
learning.

If a child has memorization problems (be it with arithmetic tables, spelling,
or whatever facts), time, patience, and finding the right approach are
required.  If you know that your child is putting in great effort to learn, you
must not let the teacher "punish" your child by making her stay in at recess to
do flash cards.  You must give your child support when the timed test results
are poor.

Poor computation is no indication that your child will do poorly in math.  My
daughter was terrible in timed tests.  She still doesn't remember all the
tables.  She has several tricks that she uses.  She gets part way to the answer
then mentally counts on her fingers to get to the final answer.  As time goes
on she becomes faster at this method and her computation slowness decreases.

And she is getting straight A's in algebra.  This is good because she is only
in the 7th grade and has recently skipped grades in math.  She took the books
that she skipped home and did the work herself.  This only after I had several
battles with the school to convince them that the results of timed computation
tests were no measure of her math ability.  

Again, flash cards are not the only method to teach computation.  Try to find a
resource that can help you with other methods.  And then, by trial and error,
you may find the one that is the best for your child.

Look  into the math games that are available on computers.

    
241.19One more with memorization problemsSALES::SIMMONSFri Jan 24 1997 18:0118
    My son also seems to have problems with memorization of math tables. 
    He is also in the fourth grade.  He has been diagnosed with ADHD as
    well, but the school says he does not have any learning disabilities (as 
    if ADHD isn't a learning disability ... but that's a different issue). 
    When I had a conference with his teacher, she did not seem concerned
    that he did not have them memorized.  He uses little tricks, counts on
    fingers, puts little dots on his paper and adds them up, etc.  She felt
    that as long as he understood the process of what they were doing, that
    was fine.  He has not done well on timed tests in the past, but they
    have not pushed these with him.  As one of the requirements of his
    "needs being met in the classroom" (versus having and IEP) is to allow
    him additional time for organization of thoughts as well as his
    physical area.  If anyone finds a way to help these kids with math
    facts, please post them here ... I'd love to see what works for others.
    
    Anyone have any good computer programs/learning games to recommend?
    
    Joyce