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Conference csc32::consolemanager

Title:POLYCENTER Console Manager
Notice:Kits, Scans, Docs on CSC32:: as PCM$KITS:,PCM$DOCS:, PCM$SCANS:
Moderator:CSC32::BUTTERWORTH
Created:Thu Aug 06 1992
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1541
Total number of notes:6564

1287.0. "CONSOLE$MONITOR_INIT.DAT location" by OPCO::TSG_SJM (Steve McGinley - Sydney Australia) Thu May 02 1996 05:46

    In a note somewhere, can't find it again, it was stated that the
    CONSOLE$MONITOR_INIT.DAT file could be located in either SYS$LOGIN or
    the area pointed to by CONSOLE$USER_DEFAULTS, which is contrary to the
    manual which states that it must reside in SYS$LOGIN. What is the
    search sequence, SYS$LOGIN then CONSOLE$USER_DEFAULTS or visa versa.
    
    Thanks
    Steve
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1287.1CSC32::BUTTERWORTHGun Control is a steady hand.Thu May 02 1996 16:5113
    Steve,
      Excellent question and thanks for pointing out the flaw in the
    documentation. The answer is
    
    We will search in the following order:
    
    CONSOLE$USER_DEFAULTS:
    
    SYS$LOGIN:
    
    Current directory
    
    Dan
1287.2SuggestionOPCO::TSG_SJMSteve McGinley - Sydney AustraliaThu May 02 1996 22:058
    Dan
    
    Suggestion...perhaps it should be the other way around. If a site has a
    common CONSOLE$MONITOR_INIT.DAT file in CONSOLE$USER_DEFAULTS, if
    SYS$LOGIN  was search first, then an individual, and boy there are lots
    of them, could have his/her own init file.
    
    Steve
1287.3CSC32::BUTTERWORTHGun Control is a steady hand.Thu May 02 1996 23:5313
    And you still can have your own. Define CONSOLE$USER_DEFAULTS
    to SYS$LOGIN or you may use the /INIT qualifier to specify 
    the init file you want.
    
    I do like your search order best though. What we have to think about is
    impact to the customers that are used to the current search order.
    
    What we could do pretty easily is implement a logical that would 
    allow the search order to be changed and leave the default search order
    as it is.  Hmmmmmmm.....
    
    
    Dan
1287.4console$monitor_init.dat and C3KERNEL::NICHOLSONArackin frackin varmitWed May 08 1996 12:169
    
    
    Further onto this note, could you tell me if you are using an
    initialization script would you expect the keys defined within this
    file to be picked up when using the console monitor via the C3 
    interface?
    
    Thanks
    Avril
1287.5CSC32::BUTTERWORTHGun Control is a steady hand.Wed May 08 1996 17:499
    >Further onto this note, could you tell me if you are using an
    >    initialization script would you expect the keys defined within this
    >    file to be picked up when using the console monitor via the C3
    >    interface?
    
    Absolutely!
    
    Regs,
       Dan
1287.6WOTVAX::WATSONRLambs... so cute... but so tasty !Tue Aug 13 1996 07:5821
1287.7WOTVAX::WATSONRLambs... so cute... but so tasty !Tue Aug 13 1996 08:024
1287.8CSC32::BUTTERWORTHGun Control is a steady hand.Tue Aug 13 1996 17:3213
    Well Ross,
       Someone else asked me this question last Friday as they have the same
    behavior you do.  I went into the C3 code and lo and behold the /NOINIT
    qualifier is specified so what we are experiencing is intended
    behavior. The only reason I can think of for doing that is thaat
    MONITOR interfaces created from the C3 are MONITORing a single
    system and the init file could contain commands that don't apply
    to that system.
    
    At least we know.
    
    Regards,
       Dan
1287.9WOTVAX::WATSONRLambs... so cute... but so tasty !Wed Aug 14 1996 06:1014
1287.10CSC32::BUTTERWORTHGun Control is a steady hand.Thu Aug 15 1996 16:0626
    >I think its a bug really. The C3 interface should handle an
    >initialisation file. Of course, it would be interesting to see which has
    > precedence, the initialisation file, or the C3 definition for the 
    >control keys.
    
    Ross,
      What the C3 does is just SPAWN a decterm giving it a command of
    CONSOLE MONITOR /BREAK=whatever etc.
    
    The command-line qualifier takes precendence over the init file and of
    course this is true if you create a MONITOR from the C3 or from the DCL
    command line.
    
    Since there will always be those customers that want to have their cake
    and eat it too, I would suggest you submit an request for enhancement
    for a new button within the C3 that says whether or not the /NOINIT
    qualifier is used. Since we've already determined that the command line
    qualifiers take precedence over the init file, if the button is
    selected, the selections for the various keys in the C3 customizations
    menus would be stippled out and thus disabled. 
    
    Regards,
       Dan
    thus disabled.