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Conference csc32::consolemanager

Title:	POLYCENTER Console Manager
Notice:	Kits, Scans, Docs on CSC32:: as PCM$KITS:,PCM$DOCS:, PCM$SCANS:
Moderator:	CSC32::BUTTERWORTH

Created:	Thu Aug 06 1992
Last Modified:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	1541
Total number of notes:	6564

793.0. "license issue" by KETJE::STEUKERS () Wed Jun 07 1995 12:57

Hi,



Customers here in Belgium start slowly to migrate with their management
platforms from OpenVMS VAX towards OpenVMS AXP.

Most of them started with VCS on VAX and could use the VAXCLUSTER-CONSOLE
license  without any problem when migrating to PCM, still on VAX.

One customer, using its VCS license on OpenVMS AXP however claims this does not
work. I have not seen the customer VCS license, but suspect the fact that most
licenses for AXP machines have the OPITIONS attribute ALPHA, which is not there
for the old VCS licenses destined for OpenVMS VAX HW.

I verified some "internal" POLY-CONSOLEMGR licenses and they don't have the
APLPHA options attribute.

What should be done in order to get this customer going on PCM for OpenVSM AXP?
Please reply "asaPp" as this customer is in the process of migrating and cannot
wait!

Erik.

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
793.1	concurrent vs. capacity PAKs	ICEKRM::KUNG		`Wed Jun 07 1995 22:56`	22
	Erik: Does your customer have a CAPACITY or CONCURRENT licenses for VCS? Concurrent licenses do not distinguish between hardware types, therefore the OPTION=ALPHA is disregarded and not taken in during the LMF check. This is why I would like to see your customer's license PAK. Because the LMF name is the same between the two license types, the other way to figure out if the license is capacity type is by looking at the AVAILABILITY TABLE, and if there is a non-zero and non-blank value in it. If the license if concurrent, the ACTIVITY TABLE would have a non-zero non-blank value. Capacity licenses DO distinquish between Alpha and non-Alpha hardware. Your customer, if they have capacity licenses, and they are under service/warranty, need to trade in their VCS capacity PAK for a PCM capacity PAK (and can do so for free). The LMF name will still be the same, just that the OPTION=ALPHA will be there. The part number for the capacity license on OpenVMS AXP is QL-2PCA9-AA, to generate the correct PAK. Hope this helps.
793.2	PCM concurrent licence	BIS1::WATTINNE		`Thu Jun 08 1995 11:57`	11
	Hello, Erik is away for 3 days so that is why I am answering to you. Our customer has a Concurrent licence QL-V01**-3B. I will try to get a copy of his licence to check what are the information on the activity code, and so on... Many thanks to help us. Patricia - SW Licensing DTN 856 7219 BIS1::WATTINNE Patricia Wattinne @BRO
793.3		CSC32::BUTTERWORTH	Gun Control is a steady hand.	`Fri Jun 09 1995 01:13`	14
	To add to what Rae said, See if the PAKS have CONSTANT = 100 in the Activity field and 100 or more in the UNITS field. This PAK will work fine. I've tested it. BEWARE - you will get an OPCOM message indicating that POLYCENTER Console Manager is not licensed fo use on this node EVEN IF YOU HAVE VALID VCS PAKS of the type listed above. I've had more than one customer be misled by the error such that they assumed the product was unlicensed when in deed it was. I had to make them issue a CONSOLE CONNECT command to one of the nodes in order to convince them it was working. They hadn't even bothered to try it before logging a call. REgards, Dan
793.4		MUZICK::KUNG		`Fri Jun 09 1995 17:31`	8
	And, if the customer has purchased more than one concurrent license, they need to register them all at the same time, BEFORE issuing a LOAD command. Else LMF will only pick up one concurrent license and allow a single connect. Seeing the license would help too. Thanks Patricia. Rae
793.5	Really for free ??	ESSB::PSCULLY		`Tue Jun 13 1995 13:20`	14
	Rae, In note 793.1 you mention that customers can trade in a VCS PAK 'for free' and move to PCM on AXP. Normally, we manage such migrations using the software trade-in programme where currently the 75%/25% rule applies. This rules states that we offer 75% credit based on the price of the old license OFF the price of the new. Is there some pre-approved free migration plan for VCS/PCM ? If so, can you please post details here. Regards, Pat.
793.6	Upgrade rather than Migration.	ZEDAR::simon	Simon Jackson 830 x3879	`Tue Jun 13 1995 14:53`	10
	Hi, From what I remember the reason for the zero cost migration of licenses was that PCM 1.5 was classed as an upgrade to VCS rather than a replacement i.e. it took on the UPI of VCS rather than a new product. Therefore a customer with maintenance is supplied PCM under the terms of the contract. this was not extended to a customer who was moving to a UN*X platform as this was not considered an upgrade under the terms of the contract. Cheers Simon...
793.7	VCS to PCM migration - updated	ICEKRM::KUNG		`Thu Jun 15 1995 00:55`	131
	Product Migration Information Sheet 12-JUN-95 VAXcluster Console System to POLYCENTER Console Manager * Migrating from VCS on VMS/VAX to PCM on VMS/VAX: concurrent use license: service - automatically receive PCM update kit at no charge - VCS PAK will work with PCM non-service - purchase PCM upgrade license and h-kit unlimited license (previously sold packaged with hardware): service - automatically receive PCM update kit at no charge - VCS PAK will work with PCM non-service - purchase PCM upgrade license and h-kit concurrent license -> unlimited license: service - use 107 concurrent licenses to trade up to 1 unlimited license at no charge non-service - use 107 concurrent licenses to trade up to 1 unlimited license and also purchase PCM upgrade license and h-kit * Migrating from VCS on VMS/VAX to PCM on VMS/Alpha: concurrent use license: service - go through software trade-in program - VCS PAK will work with PCM - kits available through ConDist non-service - software trade-in program - purchase PCM upgrade license - kits available through ConDist unlimited license (previously sold packaged with hardware): service - go through software trade-in program - trade in VCS PAK for PCM Alpha VMS PAK - kits available through ConDist non-service - software trade-in program - purchase PCM upgrade license - kits available through ConDist concurrent license -> unlimited license: service - go through software trade-in program, trade in 107 concurrent licenses to credit against one capacity license - trade in VCS PAK for PCM Alpha VMS PAK - kits available through ConDist non-service - go through software trade-in program, trade in 107 concurrent licenses to credit against one capacity license - purchase PCM upgrade license - kits available through ConDist * Migrating from VCS on VMS/VAX to PCM on Digital UNIX: concurrent use license: service - go through software trade-in program - trade in VCS PAK for PCM Digital UNIX PAK - kits available through ConDist non-service - go through software trade-in program - purchase PCM upgrade license - trade in VCS PAK for PCM Digital UNIX PAK - kits available through ConDist unlimited license (previously sold packaged with hardware): service - go through software trade-in program - trade in VCS PAK for PCM Digital UNIX PAK - kits available through ConDist non-service - software trade-in program - purchase PCM upgrade license - trade in VCS PAK for PCM Digital UNIX PAK - kits available through ConDist concurrent license -> unlimited license: service - go through software trade-in program, trade in 107 concurrent licenses to credit against one capacity license - trade in VCS PAK for PCM Digital UNIX PAK - kits available through ConDist non-service - go through software trade-in program, trade in 107 concurrent licenses to credit against one capacity license - purchase PCM upgrade license - trade in VCS PAK for PCM Digital UNIX PAK - kits available through ConDist * Migrating from PCM on ULTRIX to PCM on OSF/AXP: concurrent use license: service - go through software trade-in program - PCM ULTRIX PAK will work on PCM Digital UNIX - kits available through ConDist non-service - go through software trade-in program - purchase PCM upgrade license - PCM ULTRIX PAK will work on PCM Digital UNIX - kits available through ConDist unlimited license: service - go through software trade-in program - trade in PCM ULTRIX PAK for PCM Digital UNIX PAK - kits available through ConDist non-service - software trade-in program - purchase PCM upgrade license - trade in PCM ULTRIX PAK for PCM Digital UNIX PAK - kits available through ConDist concurrent license -> unlimited license: service - go through software trade-in program, trade in 107 concurrent licenses to credit against one capacity license - trade in PCM ULTRIX PAK for PCM Digital UNIX PAK - kits available through ConDist non-service - go through software trade-in program, trade in 107 concurrent licenses to credit against one capacity license - purchase PCM upgrade license - trade in PCM ULTRIX PAK for PCM Digital UNIX PAK - kits available through ConDist ** Please note that the terms of the Software trade-in program are subject to change, and are not within the management and control of individual software product management groups.