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Title:USG buildhelp questions/answers
Moderator:SMURF::FILTER
Created:Mon Apr 26 1993
Last Modified:Mon Jan 20 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:2763
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2678.0. "Finding a file that was bcreated against another sandbox" by AOSG::FILTER (Automatic Posting Software - mail to flume::puck) Mon Nov 18 1996 15:33

Date Of Receipt: 	18-NOV-1996 11:39:12.60
From: 	FLUME::masinick "Brian Masinick USG  18-Nov-1996 1135"
To: 	odehelp@DEC:.zko.flume
CC: 	masinick@DEC:.zko.flume
Subj: 	Finding a file that was bcreated against another sandbox

I did a bcreate of a couple of files, perhaps a month or more ago, in
preparation for some QAR work.  I remember having some issues with it
- probably wrong header type or something of the sort.  But I left the
problem midstream due to several other higher priorities.

Now a month later, I come back to the problem.  Unfortunately, when I
attempt to bcreate the file, it says it already exists.  OK, that's
fine.  So I apparently did that.  Next I attempt to bco the file, and
it says:

[themas:(masinick) mas_cde(qar44167)] bco -u DesktopIntro.hf

[ ./doc/cde1/LearningProducts/fr_FR.ISO8859-1/DesktopIntro.hf ]

[ ./doc/cde1/LearningProductsfr_FR.ISO8859-1/DesktopIntro.hf already
checked out to same set in another sandbox;
branch check-out aborted ]

My question is, what tool can I use to identify which sandbox it may
be in.  Actually, if you have the tools available, I'd like this file
to be POWER defuncted, and also
./doc/cde1/LearningProducts/de_DE.ISO8859-1/DesktopIntro.hf.  I think
it would be easier to simply start over at this point and do it right,
since these files are missing from the PT and ST inventory anyway.

Thanks in advance for your explanations and assistance.

Brian   Mon Nov 18 11:35:35 1996
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2678.1Re: Finding a file that was bcreated against another sandboxAOSG::FILTERAutomatic Posting Software - mail to flume::puckMon Nov 18 1996 15:3412
Date Of Receipt: 	18-NOV-1996 11:44:34.89
From: 	SEAN::davidson "D. Sean Davidson"
To: 	masinick@zk3.dec.com, odehelp@zk3.dec.com
CC: 	
Subj: 	Re:  Finding a file that was bcreated against another sandbox

The ode blog command should give you some indication of where you created these
files.  You will need to look in all your sandboxes for the matching setname
that the blog command shows you.

Sean

2678.2Re: Finding a file that was bcreated against another sandboxAOSG::FILTERAutomatic Posting Software - mail to flume::puckMon Nov 18 1996 17:3836
Date Of Receipt: 	18-NOV-1996 14:25:22.74
From: 	FLUME::jmf "Joshua M. Friedman Digital UNIX"
To: 	davidson@sean.zk3.dec.com, masinick@zk3.dec.com, odehelp@zk3.dec.com
CC: 	
Subj: 	Re:  Finding a file that was bcreated against another sandbox

Brian, a litt more info...

As Sean has said you can find your sandbox (well, set really) from the
blog output for the file.  The best and safest thing to do is as Sean
recommends; workon to the sandbox where you did the bcreate, and outdate
there:  bcs -u -o file.  

If the correct sandbox has been deleted improperly, eg, with rm, then you
can access that sandbox's set using the -set switch of bcs (see the odeman
page).  If you do this, and the other file still exists in another sandbox,
this can cause problems later, so it is always best to workon to the 
original sandbox for the outdate.

-josh


> From davidson@sean.zk3.dec.com  Mon Nov 18 11:41:29 1996
> Delivery-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 96 11:41:54 -0500
> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:41:12 -0500
> From: D. Sean Davidson <davidson@sean.zk3.dec.com>
> To: masinick@zk3.dec.com, odehelp@zk3.dec.com
> Subject: Re:  Finding a file that was bcreated against another sandbox
> 
> The ode blog command should give you some indication of where you created these
> files.  You will need to look in all your sandboxes for the matching setname
> that the blog command shows you.
> 
> Sean
> 

2678.3Re: Finding a file that was bcreated against another sandboxAOSG::FILTERAutomatic Posting Software - mail to flume::puckMon Nov 18 1996 18:3978
Date Of Receipt: 	18-NOV-1996 14:42:44.81
From: 	FLUME::masinick "Brian Masinick USG  18-Nov-1996 1439"
To: 	Joshua M. Friedman Digital UNIX <jmf@DEC:.zko.flume>
CC: 	davidson@sean.zk3.dec.com, masinick@zk3.dec.com, odehelp@zk3.dec.com,
	masinick@DEC:.zko.flume
Subj: 	Re: Finding a file that was bcreated against another sandbox

This is all good information, but so far my attempts to locate this mythical 
sandbox have been unsuccessful.  Before 11AM this morning, I only had one 
sandbox for the build pool steelcde.nightly.  It was called mas_cde.  Based on 
some output that I gave to Sean, he noted that I had something called 
qar44167.  Now, I had intended to make that a set name, but perhaps I had 
screwed up the command syntax and accidentally made a sandbox instead of a 
set.  Who knows?

What I'd really like to do at this point is get this junk defuncted out of the 
"who knows where" place.  If it is in RCS, it is bogus anyway because I had 
made a typo in my first attempt.  So far I've been spinning my wheels trying 
to back out of it.  It would sure help me out if someone would take a "cannon" 
and blow these two files to oblivion.  They only exist in my mythical sandbox 
right now, and are not part of any inventory, so the risk to doing this is 
zero.

files:
./doc/cde1/LearningProducts/fr_FR.ISO8859-1/DesktopIntro.hf
./doc/cde1/LearningProducts/de_DE.ISO8859-1/DesktopIntro.hf

sandbox: Sean thinks qar44167.  I recreated one of those, recreated the 
.BCSconfig and .BCSset files, still no luck.

pool: ???, but should be steelcde.nightly.

This is taking way too much time.  I appeal to anyone who will listen to help 
me get rid of the bad reference, preferably with a fast, high powered RCS 
admin command.

Thanks in advance,
Brian

> Brian, a little more info...
> 
> As Sean has said you can find your sandbox (well, set really) from the
> blog output for the file.  The best and safest thing to do is as Sean
> recommends; workon to the sandbox where you did the bcreate, and outdate
> there:  bcs -u -o file.  
> 
> If the correct sandbox has been deleted improperly, eg, with rm, then you
> can access that sandbox's set using the -set switch of bcs (see the odeman
> page).  If you do this, and the other file still exists in another sandbox,
> this can cause problems later, so it is always best to workon to the 
> original sandbox for the outdate.
> 
> -josh
> 
> 
> > From davidson@sean.zk3.dec.com  Mon Nov 18 11:41:29 1996
> > Delivery-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 96 11:41:54 -0500
> > Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:41:12 -0500
> > From: D. Sean Davidson <davidson@sean.zk3.dec.com>
> > To: masinick@zk3.dec.com, odehelp@zk3.dec.com
> > Subject: Re:  Finding a file that was bcreated against another sandbox
> > 
> > The ode blog command should give you some indication of where you created these
> > files.  You will need to look in all your sandboxes for the matching setname
> > that the blog command shows you.
> > 
> > Sean
> > 


-- 
Brian W. Masinick	WWW: http://www.zk3.dec.com/~masinick
Mailstop: ZKO3-3Y25	Internet mailto:masinick@zk3.dec.com
110 Spit Brook Road	FAX:   (603) 881-2257
Nashua, NH  03062-2698	DTN: 381-0013; Phone: (603) 881-0013
Lower your monthly phone bill: http://www.freedomstarr.com/MA9668183.rep


2678.4Re: Finding a file that was bcreated against another sandboxAOSG::FILTERAutomatic Posting Software - mail to flume::puckMon Nov 18 1996 19:4334
Date Of Receipt: 	18-NOV-1996 15:59:58.52
From: 	SEAN::davidson "D. Sean Davidson"
To: 	sean::jmf, sean::masinick
CC: 	davidson@sean.zk3.dec.com, masinick@zk3.dec.com, odehelp@zk3.dec.com
Subj: 	Re: Finding a file that was bcreated against another sandbox

We really don't like to stamp out RCS files because the only safe way to do
this is shutdown ode and we would get MANY complaints about that.

You should be able to create the sandbox with a (signle tab between ,v and 1.1)
in the .BCSconfig file.

Sean

	% mksb -back steelcde -set qar44167 qar44167
	% workon qar44167
	% cat >.BCSconfig
	./doc/cde1/LearningProducts/fr_FR.ISO8859-1/DesktopIntro.hf,v	1.1
	./doc/cde1/LearningProducts/de_DE.ISO8859-1/DesktopIntro.hf,v	1.1
	^D
	% cat >.BCSset-Brian_Masinick_qar44167
	./doc/cde1/LearningProducts/fr_FR.ISO8859-1/DesktopIntro.hf
	./doc/cde1/LearningProducts/de_DE.ISO8859-1/DesktopIntro.hf
	^D
	% mkdir -p ./doc/cde1/LearningProducts/fr_FR.ISO8859-1
	% touch ./doc/cde1/LearningProducts/fr_FR.ISO8859-1/DesktopIntro.hf
	% mkdir -p ./doc/cde1/LearningProducts/de_DE.ISO8859-1
	% touch ./doc/cde1/LearningProducts/de_DE.ISO8859-1/DesktopIntro.hf
	%
	% bcs -o -u ./doc/cde1/LearningProducts/fr_FR.ISO8859-1/DesktopIntro.hf
	% bcs -o -u ./doc/cde1/LearningProducts/de_DE.ISO8859-1/DesktopIntro.hf
	%
	% mksb -undo qar44167

2678.5Re: Finding a file that was bcreated against another sandboxAOSG::FILTERAutomatic Posting Software - mail to flume::puckMon Nov 18 1996 21:50118
Date Of Receipt: 	18-NOV-1996 18:10:56.75
From: 	FLUME::jmf "Joshua M. Friedman Digital UNIX  18-Nov-1996 1807"
To: 	Brian Masinick <masinick@DEC:.zko.flume>
CC: 	odehelp@zk3.dec.com
Subj: 	Re: Finding a file that was bcreated against another sandbox
Brian, from any sandbox, backed by any cde pool, type: 	

    bcs -u -o -set qar44167  \
	/doc/cde1/LearningProducts/fr_FR.ISO8859-1/DesktopIntro.hf \
	/doc/cde1/LearningProducts/de_DE.ISO8859-1/DesktopIntro.hf

This will "blow away" the RCS history.

Then start fresh by doing a "bco" and you'll get an empty file.  You can
reset the comment leader if needed using

	bcs -c"!# " file

and include  /usr/sde/osf1/headers/header.hf  at the top of the
file (I'm assuming this .hf format is the same as your's)

No need to make any bogus .BCS files.

FYI,
Somewhere you have a set, not a sandbox, called qar44167, and the file's
listed in a .BCSset-Brian_Masinick_qar44167 file, however you can ignore
this; just beware that it could bite you if you try to use a new version
of this file sometime in the future in that sandbox or set.

-josh

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To: Joshua M. Friedman Digital UNIX <jmf>
Cc: davidson@sean.zk3.dec.com, masinick@zk3.dec.com, odehelp@zk3.dec.com,
        masinick
Subject: Re: Finding a file that was bcreated against another sandbox 
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 96 14:39:17 -0500
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This is all good information, but so far my attempts to locate this mythical 
sandbox have been unsuccessful.  Before 11AM this morning, I only had one 
sandbox for the build pool steelcde.nightly.  It was called mas_cde.  Based on 
some output that I gave to Sean, he noted that I had something called 
qar44167.  Now, I had intended to make that a set name, but perhaps I had 
screwed up the command syntax and accidentally made a sandbox instead of a 
set.  Who knows?

What I'd really like to do at this point is get this junk defuncted out of the 
"who knows where" place.  If it is in RCS, it is bogus anyway because I had 
made a typo in my first attempt.  So far I've been spinning my wheels trying 
to back out of it.  It would sure help me out if someone would take a "cannon" 
and blow these two files to oblivion.  They only exist in my mythical sandbox 
right now, and are not part of any inventory, so the risk to doing this is 
zero.

files:
./doc/cde1/LearningProducts/fr_FR.ISO8859-1/DesktopIntro.hf
./doc/cde1/LearningProducts/de_DE.ISO8859-1/DesktopIntro.hf

sandbox: Sean thinks qar44167.  I recreated one of those, recreated the 
.BCSconfig and .BCSset files, still no luck.

pool: ???, but should be steelcde.nightly.

This is taking way too much time.  I appeal to anyone who will listen to help 
me get rid of the bad reference, preferably with a fast, high powered RCS 
admin command.

Thanks in advance,
Brian

> Brian, a little more info...
> 
> As Sean has said you can find your sandbox (well, set really) from the
> blog output for the file.  The best and safest thing to do is as Sean
> recommends; workon to the sandbox where you did the bcreate, and outdate
> there:  bcs -u -o file.  
> 
> If the correct sandbox has been deleted improperly, eg, with rm, then you
> can access that sandbox's set using the -set switch of bcs (see the odeman
> page).  If you do this, and the other file still exists in another sandbox,
> this can cause problems later, so it is always best to workon to the 
> original sandbox for the outdate.
> 
> -josh
> 
> 
> > From davidson@sean.zk3.dec.com  Mon Nov 18 11:41:29 1996
> > Delivery-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 96 11:41:54 -0500
> > Date: Mon, 18 Nov 1996 11:41:12 -0500
> > From: D. Sean Davidson <davidson@sean.zk3.dec.com>
> > To: masinick@zk3.dec.com, odehelp@zk3.dec.com
> > Subject: Re:  Finding a file that was bcreated against another sandbox
> > 
> > The ode blog command should give you some indication of where you created these
> > files.  You will need to look in all your sandboxes for the matching setname
> > that the blog command shows you.
> > 
> > Sean
> > 


-- 
Brian W. Masinick	WWW: http://www.zk3.dec.com/~masinick
Mailstop: ZKO3-3Y25	Internet mailto:masinick@zk3.dec.com
110 Spit Brook Road	FAX:   (603) 881-2257
Nashua, NH  03062-2698	DTN: 381-0013; Phone: (603) 881-0013
Lower your monthly phone bill: http://www.freedomstarr.com/MA9668183.rep