| Date Of Receipt: 21-AUG-1995 08:52:23.21
From: SMURF::QUARRY::"vandyck@zk3.dec.com"
To: tresvik@gutter.zk3.dec.com (Tom Tresvik)
CC: decwet::ode@gutter.zk3.dec.com, odehelp@gutter.zk3.dec.com,
fred@gutter.zk3.dec.com, tresvik@gutter.zk3.dec.com
Subj: Re: ODE 3.0 kinit procedures - please provide clarification
This is NOT a problem. Fred is correct in that you do need a ticket to do
bco/bci/bsubmit work as always, but you are prompted for this when you enter
your workon, because once in the workon session you may do this work without a
time limit as long as you stay in the workon. HOWEVER, just because you see
that message doesn't mean you are NOT in a workon. Try it without getting a
ticket first and then check the value of $WORKON. You'll see that you really
are in a workon session, you just can't do RCS work. The message is just a
reminder that you didn't get a ticket yet. Perhaps it could be clarified.
If you just want to build and don't want to see the message, then you need to
pass the -nk flag when entering the workon:
workon -nk -sb <sandbox>
-Grant
> [Tina] This might best be addressed to the ODE team in seattle. If a design
> decision was made without enough consideration for the way people do work
> here, we'll need to address this. Tina, could you ensure a response to this,
> given Josh's absence this week.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom
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> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 1995 11:03:12 -0400
> From: Fred Canter <fred@tlaser.zk3.dec.com>
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> To: tresvik@tlaser.zk3.dec.com
> Subject: Josh is out
> Cc: fred@tlaser.zk3.dec.com
>
>
> Tom,
>
> Josh is on vacation. Is there anyone else who can respond to this?
>
> Fred
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> >From fred Sun Aug 20 08:48:46 1995
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> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 1995 08:48:45 -0400
> From: Fred Canter <fred>
> Message-Id: <9508201248.AA06418@tlaser.zk3.dec.com>
> To: fred
> Subject: jmf ....ing kinit mail
> Status: R
>
> Subject: Re: 8/14 Upgrade to DECode-II V3.0 for Digital UNIX pools
>
> Josh,
>
> RE:
> kinit must now be done BEFORE a workon (only required for
> source control, not for just doing builds) but once in the
> workon your ticket will never expire.
>
> >>> I took this to mean that I needed a ticket to do check in/out
> and bsubmit, but that I did not need a ticket to do a workon and
> do a build. I just discovered that I can't even do a workon without
> a ticket. I am not too happy about that idea.
>
> This is ok on my workstation (where I do all check in/out and bsubmits),
> because I have kerberos setup. HOWEVER, I do builds all over the place
> on many different machines. I don't want the extra hassle of kerberos
> on every machine I want to build on.
>
> Please cleaify the above statement. Did I misunderstand it? Here is the
> error I get:
>
> dino.zk3.dec.com> workon -sb pntoy
> cd'ing to sandbox source directory: /usr/osf1/sb2/pntoy/src.
> starting new shell: /bin/csh.
> To access your ODE server you must:
>
> o kinit $PRINCIPAL (then input your kerberos password)
>
> o Enter workon -sb sandbox name or default.
>
> Please obtain kerberos ticket and try again.
>
> Check: environment $BCSPORT, and ode_server daemon @ secret.zk3.dec.com
> Please exit workon, do a kinit and enter workon.
>
> >>> What does "Check: environment $BCSPORT...." mean?
>
> Fred
>
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Grant Van Dyck enet: vandyck@zk3.dec.com
Release Engineering
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