| T.R | Title | User | Personal
Name | Date | Lines |
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| 67.1 | POSITIVE SUPPORT FOR OUTLINE | PUGET::SIPE | | Sat Mar 07 1987 02:56 | 8 |
| Have been using OUTLINE as the pre_processor to DOCUMENT for about
4-5 months now and am on a real sales campaign with everyone I come
into contact with. Jack has produced one of the most well thought
out applications that I have run across in quite some time and at
the same time he is the most accomodating developer I have ever
worked with. He really is writing something for the user!!
I am a firm supporter of Jack and his product. Don't stop now.
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| 67.2 | We use both. | NANUCK::PEREZ | Batches, we don't need no stinkin' batches | Thu Mar 12 1987 01:47 | 13 |
| I agree. I've been encouraging people here in Minneapolis to use
both OUTLINE and LSE as is appropriate to get Document. We usually
do all the initial work in OUTLINE. I gives us an easy way to get
drafts out -- using Runoff which is faster than Document and exists
on our local systems -- then make .GNC files and use LSE for putting
in the fancy stuff.
Works great. I think the OUTLINE and Document products work very
well together.
Dave
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| 67.3 | Now for the other side of the coin ... | UKOSC::BRUNNOCK | Andy Brunnock - Greyhound Man | Thu Mar 12 1987 08:27 | 21 |
| We don't use OUTLINE, so I can't comment on it's ease of use,
functionality etc. but we do use LSE. I am a member of the U.K.
Local Engineering and Support Group and we are trying to get developers
to use LSE to standardise code output. As I am an ardent user of
the VAXSET and especially LSE, although it may be slow at times
it is definately one of the best engineering tools around.
If you are deciding between LSE and OUTLINE, please, please, please
do not drop support for LSE. Its hard enough to have to learn all
the new products that come along (SCA, PCA, SPM etc) without having
extra work (OUTLINE) thrust at the engineers.
Another thing to consider is the installed user base of OUTLINE.
The only time I have headr of it is through this notes file. Maybe
its because I am in the U.K.?
An interface to both would be nice (the more the merrier as the
saying goes).
Andy
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| 67.4 | Not less, more. | SEAPEN::PHIPPS | | Thu Mar 12 1987 11:47 | 32 |
| > it (LSE)is definitely one of the best engineering tools around.
^^^^^^^^^^^
and
> extra work (OUTLINE) thrust at the engineers.
^^^^^^^^^
I think that says it pretty well. In fact in my opinion, OUTLINE
reduces the amount of work.
> If you are deciding between LSE and OUTLINE, please, please, please
> do not drop support for LSE.
I don't think anyone was advocating that!
> Another thing to consider is the installed user base of OUTLINE.
I think there are about 200 sites. Have no idea how many users.
Might be useful to know.
> The only time I have heard of it is through this notes file. Maybe
> its because I am in the U.K.?
Try looking in on the {SHALOT|ATLAST}::OUTLINE Notes Conference.
> An interface to both would be nice (the more the merrier as the
> saying goes).
Actually, OUTLINE is the interface to DOCUMENT/SDML... and VTX and
DSR/RUNOFF and HELP and Postscript and just about every printer
made. (I know I missed something.)
Mike
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| 67.5 | An OUTLINE Supporter | 38082::HOROWITZ | | Fri Mar 13 1987 10:59 | 19 |
| I tend to agree with Mike.
I work with a group of 50 writers. We have recently switched to using
DOCUMENT as our main text formatting tool. However, we are quite unhappy
with the coding forced upon us.
I volunteered to research a front end for DOCUMENT. I have been using
OUTLINE for the past 4 months and while I found it a friendly and useful
tool for parts of the process, I did not think the product went far enough.
I then began looking at the LSE. What had taken me an hour to figure out
in OUTLINE I still have not figured out in LSE.
I will be making a presentation my group sometime in the next month. While I
was originally going to pan OUTLINE, I have now changed my mind. The product is
evolving for the better. OUTLINE does force you to change your work habits, and
become more organized. This is perfect for our writing group.
So I find that Outline allows me to get back to what I was paid to do, WRITE.
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| 67.6 | From very satisfied users ; keep up the good work | IMAGIN::SAUNDERS | Dan Saunders @CX03 ; 522-5683 | Sun Apr 05 1987 22:54 | 17 |
| I have been using outline for about 4 months now and have encouraged
many users in our IS group to use it. We find it very productive
in organizing thoughts and creating all types of written material
from memos to project plans, monthly reports, bussiness plans, and
product documentation.
I have just installed document FT1.0 and within a few minutes after
I completed the installation I had created my first document output
on an ln03 with no knowledge of document tags etc. I am very pleased
with both products.
Further, I in helping our secretary to use outline she says that
it is the easiest product that she has ever learned. When I show
her how she can directly make documents and overheads the amazement
will be even more.
Dan
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