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Conference vaxuum::document_ft

Title:DOCUMENT T1.0
Notice:**New notesfile (DOCUMENT.NOTE) now available (see note 897)**
Moderator:CLOSET::ADLER
Created:Mon Feb 09 1987
Last Modified:Thu Oct 31 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:897
Total number of notes:4397

401.0. "BL08 Installation Woes" by PDVAX::P_DAVIS (Peter Davis (aka SARAH::P_DAVIS)) Wed May 20 1987 18:11

    Well, I finally got DOC010 installed, after only minor problems
    (like inadvertently typing <CR> for additional destination/queue
    names, or losing the PostScript IVP output).
    
    Now, in trying to install DOCLN03010, the IVP seems to be blowing
    up during the TEX processing.  I'm currently trying the installation
    without running the IVP, but the fact that the IVP blew up makes
    me nervous.  The specific error messages were something like this:
    (VMSINSTAL doesn't let me assign SYS$ERROR: to a file)
    
[T e x t   F o r m a t t i n g]
%TEX-I-IDENT, T1.0-005
%RMS-E-FNF, file not found
-SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHFILE, no such file
-TEX-I-FILENAME, 'DOC$ROOT:[TEX.LN03.FONTS]DECLOGO.TFM;'
%TEX-I-SHOWCONTEXT, '			{'
%TEX-I-SHOWCONTEXT, '...ee 'readfont \logo {declogo} {'
%TEX-I-SHOWCONTEXT, '
har 34 \ch...'
%TEX-I-SHOWCONTEXT, '->'vbox {\kern -24pt\declogo '
%TEX-I-SHOWCONTEXT, '
%TEX-I-SHOWCONTEXT, '...ox {\setuptablecolhsize \tempcsB
%TEX-I-SHOWCONTEXT, '
revdepth }...'
%TEX-I-SHOWCONTEXT, '->\body '
%TEX-I-SHOWCONTEXT, '		  \let \next \iterate \el
fi \next
%TEX-I-SHOWCONTEXT, '...artfalse \fi \settablerowbox '
%TEX-I-SHOWCONTEXT, '
exttablero...'
%TEX-I-SHOWCONTEXT, '...{\kern -24pt\declogo }}'
%TEX-I-SHOWCONTEXT, '
%TEX-I-LINE, Error occurred on or around line number: 21
%TEX-I-SHOWCONTEXT, '\copyrightline{1987}{0}'
%TEX-I-SHOWCONTEXT, '			    '
%TEX-I-FILENAME, 'doc$sample'
-TEX-I-ONPAGE, on page [ii]
%TEX-I-PAGESOUT, 10 pages written.
-TEX-I-OUTFILENAME, 'vmi$root:[sysupd.docln03010]DOC$SAMPLE
%DOC-E-ERROR_FORMATTER, Errors found by the Text Formatter
%DOCLN03-I-IVP_FAILURE, VAX DOCUMENT LN03 FONT FILES T1.0
    			IVP failed.
%VMSINSTAL-E-IVPFAIL, The IVP for DOCLN03 V1.0 has failed.
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401.1check DOC$LOCAL_ELEMENTSCLOSET::ANKLAMWed May 20 1987 20:0722
    
    It looks like the IVP is failing because it's looking for
    a definition of \declogo on the copyright page.
    
     This would probably happen if you
    have the logical name DOC$LOCAL_ELEMENTS defined and pointing
    to a base-level 7 version of CUP$LOCAL_ELEMENTS.TEX. If you
    follow the steps in the installation guide, namely:
                
    1. rename doc$root:[local.formats]cup$designs.dat to
                                      doc$designs.dat
    2. change DOC$STARTUP.COM to define
    
       DOC$LOCAL_ELEMENTS as DOC$ROOT:[LOCAL.FORMATS]CUP$LOCAL_ELEMENTS.TEX
    
    ( both of the above DOC$ROOT's are BL8 !!!)
    
    3. Remove from your LOGIN execution path any command files that
       define DOC$LOCAL_ELEMENTS to be anything else.
    
                                 
    -patti
401.2So what ARE local elements?PDVAX::P_DAVISPeter Davis (aka SARAH::P_DAVIS)Wed May 20 1987 20:2119
    Thanks.  Please note that I haven't even installed the DOCINT010
    kit yet.  Isn't there where all the local formats are?  It seems
    a bad idea to make the IVP depend on prior installation of DOCINT010,
    particularly since customers may not install DOCINT010 at all.
    
    I seem to be having a similar problem with with generating contents
    for a report.  I'm getting messages like:
    
%RMS-E-DNF, directory not found
-NONAME-W-NOMSG, Message number 00000000
-SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHFILE, no such file
-TEX-I-FILENAME, 'DUA1:[DOCTOOLS.LOCAL.FORMATS]CUP$LOCAL_...
    
    I presume this is also because DOC$LOCAL_ELEMENTS is incorrectly
    defined.  My question is, "Why is this using local elements at all?"
    I thought local elements were for DEC internal use.
    
    Thanks.
    -pd
401.3internal thingsCLOSET::ANKLAMWed May 20 1987 20:2828
    
    It's not that the installation relies on the internal software
    being there, it's the way that DOCUMENT is set up to accommodate
    local customs, etc:
    
    1. When the text processor starts up, we load a file called
       DOC$LOCAL_ELEMENTS. It's default is NL:, that is, no file. But
       if the logical name is defined, it is read in. In Bl7 and below,
       the logical name was made on a process-basis, through execution
       of local DOC$STARTUP.COM files. In Bl8, it's made system-wide
       and the IVP normally doesn't look for it.
    
    2. One of the things that is in CUP$LOCAL_ELEMENTS, which we
       distribute, is a bunch of things that get printed by default
       on copyright pages (the famous "we don't promise to be perfect"
       paragraphs, and the list of trademarks, including the dec logo).
    
    3. In BL7 and below, there was a font that contained the characters
       for the declogo. We removed this from the external kit, and put
       it, and appropriate pointers to it, in new versions of 
       CUP$LOCAL_ELEMENTS, but since you are getting some of the previous
       definitions, you are getting the error.
    
    I suspect that we haven't heard more about this is that most 
    installations are done from system manager's accounts, and they
    didn't have any of the old COM files set up. 
    
      
401.4Some questions51336::LITBYP-O Litby, TSSC Stockholm/SwedenFri May 22 1987 11:4812
         I have a couple of questions regarding the baselevel 8 kit:

	 1) What is DOCINT010? In BL7, there were six savesets 
            DOC010.A - DOC010.F. There was no need to install anything
            called DOCINT.

         2) The kit directory on VAXUUM seems to contain four savesets
            only, DOC010.A through DOC010.D. Is this the way it should
            be?

	 -- POL
401.5diff between 7 and 8 ?DELNI::COLELLOFri May 22 1987 12:271
    so what's the difference between bl07 and bl08?
401.6SHIRE::ZGRAGGENSearching for infinity...Fri May 22 1987 15:511
    The release notes and installation guide tell all.
401.73 kitsCLOSET::ANKLAMFri May 22 1987 16:2818
    
    For base level 8, we decided to keep Digital internal doctypes and
    special definitions in a separate kit. DOC010.A through .D are
    the standard DOCUMENT kit, exactly what we send to customer field
    test sites. 
    
    The second kit, DOCLN03010, contains LN03 support. For royalty
    purposes, this has to be a separate kit.
    
    DOCINT010 contains the Digital-internal use only document types
    and copyright page definitions.
    
    Base Level 8 consists of bug fixes and support for items that weren't
    completed for Base Level 7. As Peter notes, the release notes
    tell all.
    
    patti