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Conference ulysse::rdb_vms_competition

Title:DEC Rdb against the World
Moderator:HERON::GODFRIND
Created:Fri Jun 12 1987
Last Modified:Thu Feb 23 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1348
Total number of notes:5438

595.0. "Oracle Ingres References" by KETJE::MONTE () Wed Mar 14 1990 15:18

Hello ,

A customer of ours (EBES MAPPING - ULTILITIES ) is going to start with a new
mapping system. In the futur they will have to be able to communicate with
the systems of municipal administrations . Since they expect most of these 
system to be UNIX-like they 're also looking into the UNIX-world .
On the other hand there was Big Blue who told them that UNIX cannot manage large
databases. 
The technical people at the customersite are not very Big Blue-minded so the are
looking for arguments to convince their management .

So now my question :

Can anybody give me references on site having Ultrix (UNIX) systems with 
ORACLE or INGRES databases with a size of about 4 to 5 Gigabytes ? !

As usual : It 's URGENT

Thanks in advance

Marc Monte SWAS Brussels
 
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595.1some thoughtsWARNUT::BRYANWed Mar 14 1990 16:4417
    
    What are his timescales like ?
    
     If its NOW, then it has to be INGRES, don't even think about Oracle.
    
     If its later ( this summer ? ) then why not ultrix/sql.
    
     What is the level of communication required ? - Batch or Interactive.
    
     Can't Ingres provide a referece site for *their* database ?
    
     Perhaps we could go in supporting Big Blues argument but promoting the
     benefits of Rdb/VMS. With the developments in NAS and VMS/posix
     compliance you do not HAVE to work in a vanilla UNIX environment to
     achieve box-box communication.
    
        
595.2They're RightNOVA::BOOTHWhat am I?...An Oracle?Wed Mar 14 1990 17:264
    IBM is right. Doing a large commercial database on Unix is not very
    clever. That's why the references are non-existent.
    
    ---- Michael Booth
595.3reply to .1KETJE::MONTEWed Mar 14 1990 19:5520
    -> reply 1
    
    >> What are his timescales like ?
   
    Final decision : juin 1990
    But they want to run a bench in april .
                                                          
                                     
    >> If its NOW, then it has to be INGRES, don't even think about Oracle.
    
    Why not Oracle ( sorry I'm an ULTRIX-boy , not very knowledgable about
    DB-stuff ) ? I was told that the ministry of agriculture purchased a
    DEC-system with some clients and a 9GB-Oracle_DB
    
    >>  What is the level of communication required ? - Batch or Interactive.
    
    I don't , I'll contact the customer to have more info on that .