Conference ulysse::rdb_vms_competition

If default Rdb databases are ok, he could use RALLY or DECdecision,
but maybe soe tuning is required afterwards.

-Hans

    
    datatrieve doesn't have databases, my guess is he is referring to RMS
    files. In which case there is a lot of discussion of switching from
    RMS to Rdb in the RDB_40 notesfile on NOVA. Also, an advantage of
    Rdb/VMS is he can switch the RMS files to Rdb, and keep on using his
    Datatrieve procdures etc, as the change will be invisible to the user.
    
    Simon

...is a report by Martin Butler and Robin Bloor, of 

ButlerBloor Ltd
2nd Floor
Office Suite 2
North Church Side
Hull HU1 1RP
United Kingdom

Phone 0044 482 227 511

Rdb and Ingres come out looking the best.

I agree totally with .2 - If he already has DTR/RMS and is doing data entry
etc. (presumable through FMS) then he already has everything he needs. As
Simon says his procedures should (mostly) stay the same. He may need to tune
them for locking. The only other thing he needs to do is to create the db.

John.

    Try using SMARTSTAR!

Does anyone know the email (internet) address for Butler Bloor Ltd?
Thanks in advance!
Rick

(sounds like a poor TV show :-)

Seriously, is this a Digital product?
Rick

    re .7

    they are not on an enet today. Please work through me for contact with
    them.

    Barry Needleman
    Consultant Relations Manager
    NAS BPM

    re .3
    
    Did'nt Martin and Robin move to Milton Keynes? The address that's in
    their publications is
    
    ButlerBloor Ltd
    Challenge House
    Sherwoord Drive, Bletchley
    Milton Keynes, MK3 6DP
    United Kingdom
    tel: 0908 373311

    Rick,
    
    It's a little old, but close to home and good starter:
    

Directory NOVA::PM01:[DBS_HELP.PUBLIC.ARCHIVE]

4GL_TABLE.PS;1       13-JAN-1989 13:31:41.00

Total of 1 file.
    
    Bruce

    Thanks for the info - I have passed it along.
    Rick

Not sure why anyone is recommending anything but RALLY.  It does everything 
you want to do and it works well with either Rdb or RMS files.  

David F.

    Recommend RALLY, Digital's strategic 4GL. This will ensure that Digital
    receives all of the revenue from the sale. In this day and age we
    cannot afford to give away any business to 3rd parties, unless we
    cannot provide a requested product. In the case of 4GLs, we can provide
    RALLY.
    
    Richard
    
    P.S. RALLY - available on MSDOS in the very near future.

    Re: .0
    
    I am from the Center for Migration Services in Colorado Springs,
    Colorado.  I recommend two products:
    
    
         1)  TRIM/tools, a product that we use in-house, and in our
             ORACLE to Rdb migration program.  It is suite 4GL tools which
             allows developers to rapidly put up a system, including 
             reports, screens, menus, and querying capability in a
             very short period of time.  For additional information,    
             e-mail me (TYFYS::SLATER) or Dave Munns (TYFYS::MUNNS)
             who is our Database Migration Team Project Manager.
    
         2)  PARADOX and PARADOX SQL for Rdb/VMS.  This pair of products
             allows rapid prototyping and system development in an MS-DOS,
             PC-based environment, while allowing upload, download, and
             client/server access to Rdb/VMS databases on the VAX.  Using
             PARADOX/PARADOX SQL LINK is becoming more appealing due to the
             present market penetration of PARADOX (and name recognition).
             BORLAND International distributed more than 800,000 copies of
             PARADOX in the past 12 months.  For additional information
             about PARADOX/PARADOX SQL LINK, you may e-mail me at TYFYS::
             SLATER or review the notes I wrote up on it at NAC::IBMPC
             No. 7323, or one of the notes I left on the Rdb/VMS, or 
             the SQL_SERVICES Notes files.
    
    
    Good Luck!
    
    
    Bill Slater

    
    
    Rally V3.0 is slated to run on MS-DOS, for development only I think.
    
    simon

    
>>    Rally V3.0 is slated to run on MS-DOS, for development only I think.
    
>>    simon

Hm, I heard about an MS-DOS client, I think that means runt time only.

-Hans

    
    RALLY V3.0 is slated to have run-time ONLY support for MS-DOS.
    
    Terri Landry
    V3.0 PL

    Interesting. The UNISYS LINC product is targetting DOS for development
    and to run on UNISYS mainframe...opposite strategy

    Have you looked at LEVEL4? It is a very successful local product - it
    helped us to close a VAX 9000 sale.
    
    See
    
    	SIRDOS::LEVEL4
    
    for more information, kits and documentation.
    
    Werner Brunner
    

    PC-client ... "runt-time" only .... OH! PLEASE!!