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Conference ulysse::rdb_vms_competition

Title:DEC Rdb against the World
Moderator:HERON::GODFRIND
Created:Fri Jun 12 1987
Last Modified:Thu Feb 23 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1348
Total number of notes:5438

378.0. "CONVERTING FROM ORACLE TO RDB.......ANY EXPERIENCE???" by ODIXIE::RICH () Wed Jun 28 1989 00:19

    CONVERTING FROM ORACLE TO RDB.......ANY EXPERIENCE?
    
    My account, Monsanto, has spent >$4M on Oracle and is very unhappy.
    They would like to convert to RdB but are not prepared to lose what
    they've invested in Oracle.
    
    I'm looking for an account who has made such a conversion and is
    willing to talk to Monsanto and share their experiences.  I'm also
    looking for any 3rd party who has a product for this purpose/ consults
    in this space/ etc.
    
    Anybody out there able to help??
    
    Joe Rich @ALF
    DTN: 351-7069
    
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378.1Why drag along the extra baggage?HOTAIR::DAVISUh Oh...another Balloonist..Wed Jun 28 1989 02:4315
    Joe,
    
    Just a guess, but wouldn't trying to do a quick-as-possible conversion
    bring along a lot of those Oracle features which they don't want?
    
    Seems to me that in most cases, 3gl/decforms would outperform just
    about anything Oracle has to offer...
    
    Just a few thoughts to get some dialog going....this is an interesting
    note.
    
    Cheers,
    
    Gil
    
378.2DWOVAX::BROWNFri Jul 07 1989 00:2224
Regarding note 378.0, I'm looking for about the same thing; though
the customer wants it to, preferably, be someone in the NY City area and
also someone using Rdb from the financial sector. 

The customer is Prudential-Bache, and they are currently using Oracle, and
looking to switch to Rdb for cost reasons. I was called in to provide some
technical backround on Rdb. However, they wish to use SQL, which I have
little backround in, and in our version specifically, even less. Also,
I'm finding it to be a difficult situation since the DBA of the group
seems most against going to Rdb (basically, because he would have to become
a true DBA) and I'm getting frustrated on how to place Rdb against Oracle
in  their situation, its rather a strange idea they have on what
a relational database is, but that's another story.

So, if someone knows of a customer who has gone thru an Oracle to Rdb
"conversion" and/or even a customer in the finacial arena who uses Rdb
and loves it, I'd be most appreciative to hear and talk to them too.


Thanks,

Kate
    
@DTN 338 - 5548
378.3Check NewsBooth III, #11HGOVC::DEANGELISTie me rickshaw down sportFri Jul 07 1989 10:389
    The latest Newsbooth (Vol III #11) talks about a migration tool
    "Smartstar Migration Tool" which will alow a user to "port" from one
    relational database to another - even the SQL is transformed. Also
    another tool is mentioned for conversion from Oracle to Rdb in
    that same article.
    
    Michael Booth might have more info on this.
    
    John.
378.4Heathen down on the farm..DWOVAX::BROWNFri Jul 07 1989 19:226
    
    
    What, (asks the software hick from Dela-where[?]), is Newsbooth (Vol III
    #11) and where does one find Vol I, let alone Vol III????    :-)
    
    Thanks.
378.5DBS MarketingAKOV12::HAGGERTYGIA SWS Database SupportSat Jul 08 1989 00:093
    Send mail to Mr. Booth at QUILL::BOOTH and I'm sure he'd be more
    than happy to edit his distribution list to add your name.  And maybe
    even point you to a few back issues...
378.6Try HereQUILL::BOOTHWhat am I?...An Oracle?Sat Jul 08 1989 01:334
    The NewsBooth is available in the notes file
    BROKE::DB_COMPETITIVE_HELP.
    
    ---- Michael Booth
378.7Latest info!SUBWAY::WANGMon Jan 21 1991 20:4410
    Colorado's Center for Migration Services has a conversion program that 
    converts ORACLE databases and applications to Rdb/VMS.  The contact is 
    Tom Koski.
    
    The conversion is accomplished using a Third party called Trifox
    (please refer to Trifox notes).  The different between Trifox and
    Smartstart is Smartstart will not convert the SQL*FORMS triggers,
    which is about 85% of the application.
    
    Jay Wang