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Conference koolit::vms_curriculum

Title:VMS Curriculum
Moderator:SUPER::MARSH
Created:Thu Nov 01 1990
Last Modified:Sun Aug 25 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:185
Total number of notes:2026

53.0. "SYSNET I CHAP 2 REVIEW" by SUPER::REGNELL (Smile!--Payback is a MOTHER!) Tue Mar 19 1991 17:34

    
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53.1Chapter 2 looks okDLO10::TARLINGWed May 08 1991 14:256
    Val, Kristin;
      
    Chapter 2 looks OK!
     
    Arnold.
    
53.2The view from the UKUKEDU::SHONEKeith Shone @RKA 830-4074Fri May 10 1991 09:2843
   Module: Issuing Commands

   My views - not necessarily those of my colleagues.

   Some of these comments I've made elsewhere - I think.


   Page	    Comment
   
   1-5	    First two sentences seem verbose. How about:
	    "To request service from VMS we use an  
	    interface called the Digital Command Language (DCL)."

   1-6	    Line 1: <Nit> english -> English

   1-7	    Line 3: typo "... in an written..." ->
			 "... in a written..."

	    Table heading: "...can Effect..." ->
			   "...can Affect..."

	    Body of table: Positional Qualifier:
	    After the word FILE2.TXT I assumed the word Example:
	    referred to another example of the positional qualifier
	    Sorry, just the impression from a first reading

   1-11a    Sub heading 2.: couple of typos:
	    managhers -> managers; environement -> environment

   1-16	    CTRL/T - works only when enabled

   1-17	    Something I queried before in the first sentence:
	    "...in response to many of the commands..."
	    VMS doesn't issue system messages to many commands.
	    The /LOG qualifier will force -I- or -S- serverity messages
	    to be emitted. Generally, few messages are issued
	    for ongoing valid commands.

	    Probably the text ought to say something like:

	    "When VMS, through DCL, is unable to understand your
	    commands, DCL will issue messages. These messages can
	    tell...".
53.3view of hollandNWGEDU::WIERSMADrive a BENTLEY or walk...Mon May 13 1991 19:4530
Review chapter:

	ISSUING COMMANDS

Page 1-6: Figure 1-1
              $PRINT  FILE1.LIS /COPIES=2

          Why not using this example to explain the bullets

          Verb:        $help            ---> $print
          Parameter:   $print file1.txt ---> $print file1.lis
          Qualifier:   Mention the slash "/" You can recognize him from it
                       
          Qualifier value: 
		$print/copies=2 file1.txt --> $print file1.lis/copies=2

Page 1-7: Where is the parameter qualifier. Which I always call they special
	  qualfiers like there is:  TYPE/PAGE

Page 1-12: typo  third line: <REFERENCE>...

Page 1-16: CTRL/S and CTRL/Q   (same as F1)

Page 1-17a: Mention since VMS V5.3  Sysatem Message online available

            SYS$HELP:SYSMSGHELP.HLB

Doei Arjen.

    
53.4Missing example UAF re 3NWGEDU::WIERSMADrive a BENTLEY or walk...Tue May 14 1991 19:3739
    Hello again,
    
    Here is the promised template of the UAF record.
    

Username: SMITH                            Owner:  Mary Smith
Account:  ADMIN                            UIC:    [123,456] ([ADMIN,SMITH])
CLI:      DCL                              Tables: DCLTABLES
Default:  DUA0:[SMITH]
LGICMD:   SYS$MANAGER:ADMIN_LOGIN.COM
Flags: 
Primary days:   Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri        
Secondary days:                     Sat Sun
Primary   000000000011111111112222  Secondary 000000000011111111112222
Day Hours 012345678901234567890123  Day Hours 012345678901234567890123
Network:  ---------##########-----            ---------##########-----
Batch:    ##### Full access ######            ##### Full access ######
Local:    --------###########-----            --------###########-----
Dialup:   -----  No access  ------            -----  No access  ------
Remote:   --------###########-----            --------###########-----
Expiration:            (none)    Pwdminimum:  6   Login Fails:     0
Pwdlifetime:        180 00:00    Pwdchange:      (pre-expired) 
Last Login:            (none) (interactive),            (none) (non-interactive)
Maxjobs:         0  Fillm:       100  Bytlm:         4096
Maxacctjobs:     0  Shrfillm:      0  Pbytlm:           0
Maxdetach:       0  BIOlm:        18  JTquota:       1024
Prclm:           2  DIOlm:        18  WSdef:          200
Prio:            4  ASTlm:        24  WSquo:          500
Queprio:         0  TQElm:        10  WSextent:      1000
CPU:        (none)  Enqlm:        30  Pgflquo:      10000
Authorized Privileges: 
  TMPMBX NETMBX
Default Privileges: 
  TMPMBX NETMBX
    
    
    Hope this explain a little bit of what I meant.
    
    Doei Arjen
53.5details, detailsMELKOR::HENSLEYratbag in trainingTue May 21 1991 19:014
    Minor nit:  how about using a logical name for the device (since we
    would normally recommend such).
    
    ih
53.6mention F1/hold buttonTEACH::CHUCKSat Jun 01 1991 03:365
           
         	module 2:   Page 1-16   I know his is for ctrl keys
         		    but the connection between ^S and ^Q
         		    with the hold (f1) button should be
         		    made here.
53.7More comments from DCTEACH::RINEWed Jun 05 1991 16:5013
The following are comments on Module 2 Issuing Commands

Page 1-5.	"Common words" could be replaced with "English-like"

Page 1-6.  	Something should be said somewhere on this page to indicate that
		this is a "Command Line" the command is Print.

Page 1-8. 	The first 2 paragraphs on this page pare Perfect, I couldn't
 		think of a better way to put it.

Page 1-9.	The first 2 bullets on this page are repeated from page 1-9


53.8Another California crankiness from tomSWAM1::STERN_TOHave TK; Will TravelTue Oct 29 1991 17:515
    Why is there a copy of the sysuaf record in a user-related chapter?  In
    the pilot class that's going on this week, this caused students to
    start asking questions that are not going to be answered for at least
    two more days (longer if we keep getting bogged down in the amount of
    material in the next few chapters).