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380.1 | Think of all the CDs you could buy.... | BAHTAT::SALLITT | Dave @LZO 845-2374 | Mon Nov 02 1992 14:48 | 17 |
| If your main source is CD or LP, with tape only for casual/mobile
listening, DCC is hardly worthwhile. A good analogue cassette machine
with Dolby HX-Pro or - if you can justify it - Dolby S, would be a far
better gamble.
If you use tape in a semi-professional role, DAT is your best bet.
It's still not clear if DCC will become the dominant recordable medium for
prerecorded material, or if Sony's Minidisc will win. I can't
understand why anyone would want either; there is no reason why the
music industry should favour one format over the other, and by the time
Joe Public has voted one way or the other recordable CD (CD-R) will be
affordable.
A personal view.
Dave
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380.2 | DCC=DumbCopfCassette!!!!!!!!!!!!! | UFHIS::JMASLEN | The wheels fallen off your day yet?! | Mon Nov 02 1992 20:23 | 12 |
| Just to put another spanner in the (your!) works, Pioneer will release
a super DAT soon (96kHz sampling).........the firt reports show DCC
being ok for digital to digital recordings buy fair for analogue
playback cassettes or analogue(you didn't use the digital input)
recordings.
I'm with Dave, hang out for R-CD, it makes more sense. The whole idea
of cassettes is that they should be a cheap backup or source......the
advanced publicity places DCC cassettes at a similar price to
CDs.....they are mad!.....just my humble opinion mind you.
cheers fjeff
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380.3 | Conspiracy, what conspiracy ? | UPROAR::WEIGHTM | Act, Don't React | Tue Nov 03 1992 16:21 | 19 |
| Trouble is, the hardware manufacturers are getting into bed with the
software (ie music) publishers - or even buying them outright (eg Sony &
Columbia). Consider how much money has been made on the back of standard
CDs (ie new hardware to sell and re-selling (at huge margins!) the same
music in a different format) and you can see the attraction, for the
industry, of inventing yet another format.
You'll have to throw away all your existing CD investment and spend
thousands on new hardware and software ! Who cares if DCC or mini-disc
wins - the consumer will be the loser. Just look how quickly vinyl has
declined.
I'm with the last note. Resist DCC and mini-disc and force the industry
to support the existing CD standard and release CD-R at last - the
technology has been around for a while now.
Fat chance.
Mike
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380.4 | Kodak will fix them.... | BAHTAT::SALLITT | Dave @LZO 845-2374 | Tue Nov 03 1992 16:38 | 23 |
380.5 | Sodium Hyposulfate & Glacial Acetic Acid | TIS::GRUHN | | Tue Nov 03 1992 17:35 | 5 |
| .4, you made a funny! "Kodak will fix them...." Develope them first
in D76, then "FIX" them in HYPO. Good show Dave.
Bill
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380.6 | But what about the water marks? | BAHTAT::SALLITT | Dave @LZO 845-2374 | Wed Nov 04 1992 14:40 | 7 |
| Hey, Bill! Well spotted, but it wasn't intentional. Also you forgot the
Photoflo to finish the job - it would probably work very well for
cleaning CDs, I know it does on records.
Or am I being negative?
Dave
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380.7 | but then.... | PEKING::GERRYT | | Wed Nov 04 1992 15:46 | 10 |
| Should I keep my old vinyl then???
I agree that the likes of SONY are well into owning the complete market
from top to bottom, and will wish to preserve their profits wherever
they can. I suppose with the ROM chips they'll have no problems with
'reading' the data.
How long will it be before CD-R is available, and won't they
'jump' in car mechanism anyway like ordinary car cd players..?
tim
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380.8 | I'm not buying one... (probably) | KRAKAR::WARWICK | Can't you just... ? | Wed Nov 04 1992 16:47 | 23 |
380.9 | Dump your LPs this way, if you must ;-) | BAHTAT::SALLITT | Dave @LZO 845-2374 | Wed Nov 04 1992 19:29 | 39 |
| re .7...
"Should I keep my old vinyl then???"
Taking your question at face value for a minute, the answer is an
emphatic but qualified "yes". The qualification is around how much you
have, how much you use it, its condition, and so on.
On the other hand, taking your question to mean "Are you saying I
shouldn't move forward at all?", again the answer is a qualified "yes".
Unless your records are clapped out and you have a below par record
player, moving to new technology doesn't necessarily improve anything.
It may, but only may, give you more choice, but the assumption many
make that the latest is the best is false, and is usually grounded in
the subtle selling messages that come from the industry. I would never
encourage someone to upgrade for its own sake.
Apply the Ivor Tiefenbrun principle: how many more tunes will the
proposed upgrade enable me to hear from my current music collection, or
how many more will it encourage me to access that I don't currently
have in my collection?
Unless you have a really low end system, for DCC the answer has to be
"not a lot".
It's your brass, of course; but just think of the CDs, records, blank
tapes you'd have money left over for if you just go a simple upgrade to
what you have - if you *must* upgrade at all.
Millions of hifi owners will have that choice to make, and they will
get lots of persuasion from the majors to start all over again. Just
how many copies of Raintown or With The Beatles, or any other album,
are worth having in multiple formats?
Like I say, it's your money and my advice would be to keep it, or spend
it in a way that improves your quality of life. If that equates to a
DCC machine, then that's your choice. I wouldn't touch one with a big
stick.
Dave
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380.10 | common-sense | PEKING::GERRYT | | Fri Nov 06 1992 20:11 | 13 |
| ref.9
Thanks Dave...a lot of common sense there.
I already have a CD player...and I think it was worth it...but I kept
the vinyl too....any old discs that are worn/damaged that i
particularly like, I'm trying to re-source on CD.
However, having said that, I've been listening to records a lot more
recently, and if it's a good pressing, then the sound is very good,
and, I believe, less clinical than a CD.
Tim
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