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    HiFi Choice has reviewed some - about 5 models, I think. The reviews
    are summarised in the back of the latest issue, which also has info on
    back numbers.
    
    I don't know anyone who's heard one yet, nor heard one myself. I did
    read somewhere that the BBC prefer them to CD players, as they found
    them to be more reliable for professional playback (lots of cueing,
    etc.). The Beeb also use a lot of prerecorded DATs, as well as
    archiving LPs and CDs to the new medium. You can add your own indeces,
    etc., even when recording from an analogue source - great for studio
    work.
    
    If you get to hear one, howzabout posting a review?
    
    Dave

    
    Sounds like a good idea. I have heard that I should be able to pick one
    up for 3-500 pounds in Tottenham Court Road....

>    Sounds like a good idea. I have heard that I should be able to pick one
>    up for 3-500 pounds in Tottenham Court Road....

I think that you will find that they are a bit more expensive than that.

There is an excellent review of the technology and various models available in 
the current issue of 'International Musician & Recording World'.

Nigel

ARE PRE-RECORDED (oops) dat tapes available in shops yet?

cheers...

...art

    ....but you may need to travel, as I doubt your average High St. record
    store will have them. Covent Garden Records (in The Smoke) specialise
    in things digital and may stock them.
    
    Why do you ask? Are you the first kid on the block with a DAT machine?
    
    

Nope no dat player, I asked 'cuz I read somewhere that dat software was 
unavailable. It was an article in a car stereo magazine trying to explain why
dat hadn't taken off in a big way in ICE.

was thinking of upgrading my car stereo (broken tape player)...

thinking is much cheaper than spending money!

do you know the exact location of Covent Garden Records?

thanks...

...art

I saw a copy of the Durutti Column's DAT at the record shop (recently changed
name) in Broad Street Mall (whichever one is near the Ramada) in Reading.

Tiny thing it was.

Mark.

P.S. Pardon geographical dyslexia!

	Hi,

	The address and tel. no.

	Covent Garden Records,
	84 Charing Cross Road,
	01-379-7365

	Leicester Square is the closed tube, go north up Charing Cross Rd,
	and they are on the north side of Cambridghe Circus.

	Simon 		

cheers

...art

does anyone know how a DAT recorder limits you to making only one DIGITAL
recording off individual CD's?

(by digital I mean straight from a digital output from a cd player & into the
digital inputs of the DAT recorder ie. without it going thru' a DAC)


thanks...


...art

Does that mean you've got one now?

Steve

PS I don't know the answer.

    
    From what I've read, the Copycode device won't stop you making copy
    after copy from a CD, rather it will allow you to make a copy to tape
    from a CD (and maybe even good old vinyl) but then prevent you from
    making another tape copy from your new copy (does that make sense ??).
    
    In other works, it's to stop the DAT machine makers producing the
    double deck thingies which will do tape-to-tape copies.
    
    Anyway I think it's just some sort of fudge by the machine
    manufacturers to get round the 'tape machines encourage piracy' lobby.
    
    Dave.

    I have Sony DTC-55ES Dat, Copycode works thus.
    
    
    Source    Route    Copy    Route    Copy2   Route  Copy3
    
    CD       Digital   YES    Digital    NO       
    CD       Analog    YES    Digital    YES   Digital  NO    
    CD       Analog    YES    Digital    YES   Analog   YES   
    LP/TAPE  Analog    YES    Digital    YES   Digital  NO  	
    
    In other words It will let you record as many copies as you like using 
    analog Inputs. But only one DIGITAL copy anywhere along the chain.
    
    Rob.
    
    

yes, I know that only one digital-digital copy is allowed (is this true for all
dat machines?), but HOW is it enforced?

i wondered if the dat recorder had some sort of memory & could say 
"not recording that one again" as soon as it picked up the first few bits off
the cd


nope, i've not got one, but am thinking about it...



cheers...


...art

re .-1

	It actually puts a code onto the tape to say that it is a digital copy. 
You cannot then make another digital copy off that digital copy. You can make 
as many digital copies as you like of your CDs (or pre-recorded DATs) you 
simply can't make a digital copy of that copy. This also of course prevents you 
making a digital copy of a copy of a tape that you have made yourself so there 
is a potential problem here if you are using DAT as the mixdown medium for your 
own home recording.

	The whole scheme is basically flawed and is really just a sop to the 
record industry. This copycode protection is only fitted to domestic DAT 
machines it is possible to buy professional DAT machines that don't have it 
although these are about twice the price. Additionally for all practical 
purposes doing an analogue copy to circumvent the code is apparently 
indistinguishable in quality anyway.

Nigel