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Title:You get surface noise in real life too
Notice:Let's be conformist
Moderator:GOVT02::BARKER
Created:Thu Jul 28 1988
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:550
Total number of notes:3847

406.0. "What went wrong with my turntable?" by AYOV14::SREGAN () Mon Mar 29 1993 19:31

    Hi Folks,
    	Can any of you tell me what happened to my turntable last night?
    I have a 4/5 year old Technics semi-automatic belt-drive turntable (I 
    forget the model...SL-BDsomething-or-other). The type with fine pitch
    adjustment and red strobe light.
    
    Here's the problem:
    
    Last night I was listening to an album when the turntable suddenly
    slowed down and stayed at this slower speed. I cancelled the play and
    then started it again but the speed was still too slow. Tried moving
    speed selector to 45rpm but this changed nothing. Tried fiddling with
    the pitch adjuster...still no change. Eventually wouldn't start running
    at all unless given a slight push. Hauled it apart and couldn't see
    anything obvious like a blown trany or such like.
    Tried starting it then spinning the platter with my finger to approx 33
    and this worked! It stayed at 33 and when it was stopped and started
    again it was sill fine. Ran at 45 when I selected that and the pitch
    adjuster worked properly too. So what went wrong with it?
    Spoke to a guy at the work and he has had the same problem with his
    (Technics/Panasonic) turntable for the past three or so years. Is it a
    common design fault or what?
    
    Any info would be much appreciated.
    
    The Bishop
              
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406.1"Are we the diminishing race?"TROOA::SLEUNGTue Mar 30 1993 00:0411
    The belt of the turntable may be aged too much that it doesn't provide
    enought frictional pull on the heavy turntable i.e. there may be
    slippage between the pully on the motor and the belt. Inspect the motor
    pulley, if your see black dust deposit on it, its propably the problem. 
    
    You may want to invest a few pounds on a new belt to see if its the
    problem.
    
    regards
    
    Samuel
406.2No black depositAYOV17::SREGANSugar and mice and all things dicedTue Mar 30 1993 13:3412
    When I had the turntable in bits I noticed that the spindle didn't have
    any black deposit or such like on it and there wasn't any on the
    platter either and the belt tension seemed fine. Also, it was the spindle
    itself that was going slowly. When the belt was disconnected the
    spindle went faster but didn't appear to change speed when the rpm selector
    was flicked between 33 and 45.Never-the-less I'll keep it in mind and if it
    happens again I'll see about getting a new belt.
    
    Cheers for the input.
    
    The Bishop
                                               
406.3motor may need oilTROOA::SLEUNGTue Mar 30 1993 18:4626
    In this case, I suspect that its the motor which is aged to a point
    that it cannot provide the necessary torque to bring the turn tabale up
    to speed; that's why if you manually turn the table i.e. help the motor
    by providing some extra torque, the turntable works fine. The reason
    for this is that keeping the spindle once its started requires much
    less torque than bring the table from zero speed to the working speed.
    
    On thing you can do is oil the spindle bearing with light weight oil,
    like WD40, be sure you do this for both bearing(the upper and lower
    ones). 
    
    Also unless your table is the kind uses phase lock loop or one of the
    servo speed control technology, otherwise the motor should be turning
    at a predefined constant speed, to change from 33 to 45 there is a
    lever actully moving the belt to mesh with a different radius segment
    of the motor spindle pulley(you can note this from looking for the
    lever and the spindle pulley should have two segments with slight
    diameter difference like two pulleys stacks together).
    
    Hoped this will help.
    
    Tell me the progress
    
    Regards
    
    Samuel
406.4No more bump starts!AYOV17::SREGANSugar and mice and all things dicedTue Mar 30 1993 19:5418
    One thing you forgot:
    
    I had to spin the table ONCE and since then it has worked fine. When I
    stop and restart it again now it goes up to the correct speed. I do not
    have to spin it every time I start it. So far, it has not done it's
    slowing down trick since Sunday night and I used it a fair bit last
    night, but we'll wait and see what happens.
    
    I can also tell you that the spindle doesn't have two segments for the
    different speeds and I would assume it is a servo.
    
    Anyways I've now got a few ideas to play with if it happens again and I
    should manage to avoid taking it to a repair shop. I don't want to lose
    an arm and a leg!
    
    Cheers
    
    The Bishop
406.5Back to old faithful?AYOV14::SREGANSugar and mice and all things dicedFri Apr 02 1993 13:2517
406.6re-use?PEKING::GERRYTFri May 14 1993 21:233
    Why not use the cartridge off the SLB2 in the Pioneer?
    
    tim