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Title:You get surface noise in real life too
Notice:Let's be conformist
Moderator:GOVT02::BARKER
Created:Thu Jul 28 1988
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:550
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361.0. "" by BAHTAT::SUMMERFIELDC (Aut Tunc, Aut Nunquam) Tue Jun 09 1992 13:11

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361.1You takes you money,FUTURS::WATSONRik WatsonTue Jun 09 1992 14:177
361.2AYOV16::KMCCLELLANDThe Honest TruthTue Jun 09 1992 15:446
361.3Pioneer PD-9700NEWOA::SUTCLIFFEJWed Jun 10 1992 17:067
    Try the Pioneer PD-9700 also. 
    
    I went for the Rotel , but its worth a listen and feature packed too!
    
    Regards,
    Jonathan
    
361.4Pioneer CD PlayersWARHED::LENAGHThu Jun 11 1992 15:344
    
    Does anybody know how the PD-8700 compares with the PD-9700. The 8700
    had some rave reviews in HI-Fi choice and what Hi-Fi?
    
361.5Less but more...VOGON::NUTLEYThu Jun 11 1992 15:5210
    RE -1
    
    The 8700 sits between the 7700 and the 9700 in the Pioneer range,
    surprisingly enough! I compared the 8700 to my Rotel 965 when I bought
    it and there wasn't much between them (for my ears). The thing that put
    me off the 8700 was the cluttered front panel - crammed with buttons and 
    functions. The 9700 is a purer design with very few buttons and much less 
    function wise than the 8700, and I read, a better sound. 
    
    -Roy
361.6New Musical FidelityLARVAE::IVES_JBad Karma in the UKThu Jun 11 1992 21:398
    I read a while back the Musical fidelity are bringing out a second new
    CD player (not the CD1) which uses a valve based analogue section as in
    the cary player and the CAL tempest. the price was expected to be
    around 400.00 I think. You may laugh but some of the stateside player
    that use a "tube" output stage have been very well reviewed. It's due
    out this month I believe so it may be worth waiting for.
    
    The CD player with the valve based DAC is due out next april :-)
361.7Arcam Alpha vs Rotel 965BAHTAT::SUMMERFIELDCAut Tunc, Aut NunquamMon Jun 22 1992 14:4857
361.8Thanks...BAHTAT::SALLITTa legend in his lunchtimeThu Jun 25 1992 16:283
    A good review, Clive. Where did you audition the two players?
    
    Dave
361.9The coffee was good too :-)BAHTAT::SUMMERFIELDCAut Tunc, Aut NunquamThu Jun 25 1992 17:269
    Image Hi-Fi in Headingley. They were really good. Apologised for having
    to ask me to bring my own speakers in as they didn't have any
    comparable. Then the person (I forget his name) running the audition
    just sat there and operated the players as per my instructions. No
    pressure, no hassle, just take as long as you want. And he kept his
    opinions to himself. I only found his preference after purchasing the
    Arcam.
    
    Clive
361.10another Rotel vs. Arcam reviewMOVIES::ANDREWSRichard, OpenVMS Writer, Scotland - 824-3261Tue Aug 04 1992 16:1632
re. - a few

i too compared the Rotel 965 with the Arcam Alpha, and agree with
much of what has already been said.

the Rotel is a v. good machine but it always jangled a bit on the
ears a bit (poor treble?), and the bass was not well resolved. the
Arcam always sounded in control, producing a much `better' sound.

i'd summarise it by saying that the Rotel sounds like high fidelity 
musical equiment; the Arcam sounds like music

The difference was even more noticeable when the amp was upgraded
(see below)

other equipment:

Arcam Alpha 3 amp - later replaced by an Arcam Delta 60
Linn Speakers

music:

Various tracks from the IMP Classical Sampler, Vol. 1

Capercaille  - tracks from the Delirium album

Enya - tracks from Shephard Moons album

tests done at Russ Andrews Hi-Fi (no relation - i think!), Edinburgh


I bought the Arcam Alpha (and the Delta amp!)