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Conference govt02::basingstoke

Title: * BASINGSTOKE - Gateway to Wessex *
Notice:BASINGSTOKE - John Arlott lived here - then left, I wonder why
Moderator:COMICS::CORNEJ
Created:Wed Jul 27 1988
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:925
Total number of notes:5875

542.0. "Beggarwood Lane closed for 6 weeks" by KERNEL::SHELLEYR (I only _work_ in outer space) Tue Mar 31 1992 23:53

    Well, I'm surprised nothing has been said about the Beggarwood Lane
    closure near Hatch warren and also Woods Lane (leading under 
    the M'way to Cliddesden).
    
    This is causing big hold ups now coming in from the west, I'm just
    surprised both roads are closed at the same time as this must be adding
    to the chaos.
    
    Roy
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542.1COMICS::WEGGSome hard boiled eggs & some nuts.Wed Apr 01 1992 13:4214
    Roy,
    
    I had been intending to mention this, but I didn't have time yesterday
    owing to it taking me 25 minutes longer to get to work!
    
    There is another topic here that mentions that Beggarwood lane is going
    to be closed permanantly, and the notices that have been posted at each
    end of the lane only say it that it will be closed, there's no reference
    to a reopening!
    
    The extra strain on the remaining roads is immense, I'm just glad I'm
    on leave for the next two weeks.
    
    Ian.
542.2BLKPUD::WATTERSONPAs happy as a pig in shWed Apr 01 1992 14:108
    
    Which one's Beggarwood lane ? - is it the handy little road that goes
    round the back of Sainsburys ?
    
    If it is, it means virtually all traffic approaching Basingstoke from
    the south must go via Brighton Hill roundabout - great.....
    
    Paul
542.3KERNEL::SCOTTyou can trust a teddy bearWed Apr 01 1992 14:119
    I think the notice at the Woods lane end of Beggarwood lane 
    mentions a period of 6 weeks. The single track section of 
    Beggarwood lane may well be permanently closed but the wider 
    section should shortly be connected via the new road through 
    the housing developments at Hatch Warren. This road runs from 
    near to Hatch Warren farm to the road (I forget the name)
    that runs to Kempshott Roundabout.
    
    roland
542.43 Months?NEWOA::WINSLADEWed Apr 01 1992 14:598
    The Public Notices in the Gazette said that Woods Lane was 'booked' to
    be closed for a maximum of 3 months, but in reality the work should
    take no longer than 4 weeks.
    
    Biggest problem for me is having to go the long way round to get to the
    pub!
    
    Malcolm
542.5Don't hold your breath!SUBURB::THOMASHThe Devon DumplingWed Apr 01 1992 16:1711
>    The Public Notices in the Gazette said that Woods Lane was 'booked' to
>   be closed for a maximum of 3 months, but in reality the work should
>  take no longer than 4 weeks.
    

	MMMM this happened to Meadow Way, in Theale, the message has been posted
	4 times now, and a year later its still closed!!!!!


	Heather
542.6KERNEL::SHELLEYRI only _work_ in outer spaceWed Apr 01 1992 19:308
    Beggarwood lane is indeed the short stretch of road near Sainsburys
    with passing places. The wider section is called Cliddesden Lane.
    
    The notice at each end does say it will reopen in 6 weeks. I thought
    that it is going to be improved. It would be most sad if it was closed
    permanently.
    
    Roy
542.7Complain!COMICS::BENNELLU.K. Country SupportWed Apr 01 1992 21:1013
    I normally use both these roads in order to avoid the frustration
    caused by the traffic congestion on the A339 at the Venture
    roundabout. ( Also known as the ex CREST hotel roundabout). I waited
    45 minutes in that queue this morning. Since nothing happens unless you
    complain I did. Basingstoke Highways said "County shut Beggerwod and
    did not consult us." I was passed to Winchester. Winchester said oh the
    A339 south of Basingstoke comes under John Morgan. 0256 764444. I rang
    him. He had no knowledge of a problem and failed to see the
    significance of minor closures on a trunk road. He did however promise
    to investigate. He had received no other complaints.
    Anybody fancy explaining their problem to the Highway dept?
    
    Graham
542.8VULCAN::SMITHP1Terry Ebdon walks on waterThu Apr 02 1992 15:0110
> re: Note 542.7 by COMICS::BENNELL "U.K. Country Support"
>
> ....had no knowledge of a problem and failed to see the significance...

	This sums up the Basingstoke Highways Department admirably !

	'Short-sighted' and 'Out of touch with reality' are two phrases
	which also spring to mind in connection.

		p1
542.9KERNEL::SHELLEYRI only _work_ in outer spaceThu Apr 02 1992 21:2210
    It seems that the 2 roads that are closed (Beggarwood and Woods Lane)
    are closed for different reasons. Woods is closed for the Gas Board and
    Beggarwood for the Builders. Do these people need permission or 
    can they just do what they want.
    
    If they need permission (which of course they must), due to the close
    proximity of the two roads, they would be speaking to the same people.
    How could permission possibly be granted for the same time period ?
    
    Roy
542.10Who talks to Who though?NEWOA::WINSLADEFri Apr 03 1992 13:155
    They would presumably have to talk to the same department, but not 
    necessarily the same person within that department. The question is, do
    the people in the DEPARTMENT talk to each other?
    
    Malcolm
542.11Just wondering ...COMICS::BELLHear the softly spoken magic spellFri Apr 03 1992 13:166
  
  How come "builders" can request a through road closed ?  Are they putting
  an underpass or bridge in ?  If not, why do they need the road closed
  rather than just single stream with traffic lights ?
  
  Frank
542.12Full address for complaints?UKCSSE::HOBBSTue Apr 07 1992 15:2212
Did you get the full address for complaints?  If so please post here.

I use Beggarwood lane on Saturdays because I can't stand waiting 20 mins in 
the queue up to the Brighton Hill roundabout when I want to go west from 
Brighton Hill.  It would not just be a shame if it closed permanently - it
would be disastrous.  It would also be typical practice by the authorities. 

Everyone who has any interest at all must complain because I'm sure there 
just aren't enough complaints crossing the desks of the people who initiate 
these closures (as you indicate in your note).

Mike
542.13VULCAN::SMITHP1What a bunch of sweetiesTue Apr 07 1992 16:3310
	Just to make things easier in this part of Basingstoke, someone
	decided to put temporary traffic lights at the Kempshott round-
	about this morning.
	
	You know the ones....they let 3 cars through on the side where
	you are waiting in a seething tailback, then stay on for five
	minutes on the other side which is completely empty !!

		p1	
542.14KERNEL::SHELLEYRI only _work_ in outer spaceFri May 08 1992 18:225
    Well the 6 weeks are up at the end of this week.
    
    Does anyone know if the road/(new road) will be open on Monday ?
    
    Roy
542.15Monday Opening ? Update!!LARVAE::GEORGE_ESECRETARIES DO IT ALL-IN-1Mon May 11 1992 17:0710
    Just called B&D Highways Dept.  Spoke to a Mr Jim Penny, who told me
    that it was to be closed for 6 weeks OR UNTIL THE WORK IS COMPLETED. 
    He said that that should be anytime now.  He is getting back to me with
    more details.
    
    So stayed tuned!  
    
    
    
    Elly
542.16OPENING!!! From the horse's mouthLARVAE::GEORGE_ESECRETARIES DO IT ALL-IN-1Mon May 11 1992 18:279
    I'll believe it when I see it, but the afore mentioned gentleman has
    assured me that it will be open by the weekend, if not the latter part
    of this week.
    
    Back to a reaonable journey to and from work - I hope!
    
    
    Elly
    
542.17OPEN!! OPEN!!LARVAE::GEORGE_ESECRETARIES DO IT ALL-IN-1Mon May 18 1992 20:017
    Yes, it is open.  Took 15 mins off my journey today.
    
    Long may it continue.
    
    
    Elly
    
542.18KERNEL::SHELLEYRAchey Breakey BackTue Sep 29 1992 12:105
    Well its looks like its closed again for a while.
    
    The sign says from 5th October.
    
    Roy
542.19 KERNEL::MENDELSOHNGreg Mendelsohn, RSMSTue Sep 29 1992 12:3913
    Roy,

    I think that may be a permanent closure since it looks like they
    are just about to open up the new road that leads into the Hatch
    Warren, so you should still be able to get through with a detour
    (bypassing the single track bit of Beggarwood Lane

    Greg




542.20Hatch Warren Lane?KERNEL::SMITHERSJLiving on the culinary edge....Wed Nov 25 1992 16:137
    Does anyone know why there is such a build up of traffic on 
    Hatch Warren lane going onto the Viables roundabout this past
    week?  There seems to be an awful lot of traffic coming out of
    one of the side roads onto it, just wondered if another road was
    closed somewhere.
    
    julia
542.21KERNEL::COOPERSuzanne Cooper UK Customer Support (833)3502Wed Nov 25 1992 16:245
    Dear Lovey.....
    
    Everybody is trying to avoid the ring road.
    
    Depressed of Chineham
542.22KERNEL::SHELLEYRWed Nov 25 1992 16:577
    re:.20
    
    Isn't this inevitable as the estate is growing and more people
    will be driving into town. However, I've noticed that a lot of the
    new houses are unoccupied. A sign of the times ?
    
    Roy
542.23KERNEL::SMITHERSJLiving on the culinary edge....Wed Nov 25 1992 18:122
    What, so there has been this sudden influx into Brighton Hill
    over the weekend?  Don't think so somehow.....
542.24KERNEL::SHELLEYRWed Nov 25 1992 20:247
    I was referring to the new estate at Hatchwarren.
    
    More people may be using the new Cliddesden Lane which is a vast
    improvement over the narrow section of Beggarwood Lane which is now
    closed for good.
    
    Roy
542.25ARNIES::SMITHP1Noters of the null deviceWed Nov 25 1992 20:299
	Re: -1.

	Very True !

	Also, when the exit of Danebury Road is opened into the new
	Cliddesden Lane the traffic volume will probably double again.

		p1
542.26COMICS::TRAYLERThu Nov 26 1992 14:4910
    
    Could this be due to the 'Traffic Calming' mesures they have just
    implemented on Brighton Hill Way? Perhaps it is harder to get out of
    the other end of that road now ( Sullivan road?? ) so people are going
    the other way. 
    
    If thats the case then it looks like they've moved the problem onto
    Sullivan road instead!
    
    Kev