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Conference govt02::basingstoke

Title: * BASINGSTOKE - Gateway to Wessex *
Notice:BASINGSTOKE - John Arlott lived here - then left, I wonder why
Moderator:COMICS::CORNEJ
Created:Wed Jul 27 1988
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:925
Total number of notes:5875

359.0. "Jewellers" by XNOGOV::KAREN (when you wish upon a star...) Wed Sep 26 1990 19:18

I've reason to believe I've been ripped off by a jeweller on 
Winchester Street in Basingstoke.  

I have a three colour gold "slave" bangle.  The red strand broke last
year and cost me 12.50 to be repaired at this shop.  About a month ago
it snapped again in a couple of places and a piece of gold actually 
fell out.  I took it to this jewellers; the jeweller wasn't around to 
give an estimate so I left it.  After a few days I had not heard 
anything so I rang and was told the cost to repair it would be 40.00 
pounds.  They said it was this price (compared to the previous 
12.50) because the hollow red strand of gold was being replaced with a 
solid piece.  Fair enough, I accepted what they told me and went 
ahead with the repair.

In good faith I  collected it and paid my money.  I wore it only three 
times after getting it back and it snapped again.  To my surprise I
noticed the strand was still hollow!
  
I rang and spoke to the proprietor and he insisted that they had never 
promised to replace the hollow strand with a solid one!  When I asked
why he had charged so much for so little in that case, he said this was 
the real price, and that the sum I'd paid previously was a "nominal  
charge" as I'd got the bangle in the first place from him.  What's 
more he refused point blank to look at the bangle again and repair it, 
even though it had broken less than two weeks after it had been 
repaired.  He said he didn't guarantee that his work lasted two days
or two years!!
 
I find this attitude very bad indeed, and the whole affair so costly 
and demoralising.  Having lost the money and still being left with a 
broken bangle I feel cheated.  I'm not sure if there is anything I can 
do; I'm about to ring the Citizen's Advice Bureau.  But I thought I'd 
share this bad experience in the hope you don't let him do the same to 
you. 

Regards,

Karen

PS  If anyone has any suggestions on what I should do, please let me 
    know.  I've also posted this in the Reading Notesfile.
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359.1COMICS::WEGGSome hard boiled eggs & some nutsWed Sep 26 1990 20:495
    I'd advise going to the Trading Standards Department. I've found them very
    useful in the past for this sort of thing. I think the Basingstoke one
    is somewhere near the Job Centre.
    
    Ian.
359.2Small Claims CourtBRABAM::PHILPOTTCol I F 'Tsingtao Dhum' PhilpottThu Sep 27 1990 18:023

Get it repaired elsewhere then sue...
359.3Report him!!!ODDONE::PAYNE_RThu Sep 27 1990 20:316
    See if he's a member of a guild, (jewellers), then complain to them.
    
    	Any repair by anyone should carry some sort of warrenty.
    
    		Richard
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359.4Which Jewellers was it?MAJORS::DAVISONFri Sep 28 1990 17:215
    
    Is this the jewellers opposite the Halifax? I don't think I'll use them
    if thats how they treat customers.
    
    Angela
359.5XNOGOV::KARENwhen you wish upon a star...Fri Sep 28 1990 17:4612
    Re: the last note, as I'm not allowed to give the name in notes, I'll
    contact you separately.
    
    How do I find out if he's a member of the jeweller's guild?  Any help
    would be appreciated.  I've been trying to ring the CAB for the last
    three days.  They seem very hard to get in touch with!  So I'm planning
    to go in tomorrow as I think they are open for a couple of hours on
    Saturday mornings.
    
    Regards,
    
    Karen
359.6COMICS::WEGGSome hard boiled eggs & some nutsFri Sep 28 1990 18:385
    No need to give the name. Just tell us if it's the one opposite the
    Halifax!   (Handy if it is, it's just a stone's throw from the Tading
    Standards Office).
    
    Ian. 
359.7Disappointing NewsXNOGOV::KARENwhen you wish upon a star...Fri Sep 28 1990 19:4817
    If the Halifax is on Winchester Street, just of the market square in
    the old part of town, then YES!
    
    I've just spoken to the CAB.  And it's bad news.  The woman there said
    I don't have a leg to stand on as I didn't get the quote for the
    exact work to be carried out in writing.  It will be my word against
    his.  I don't stand a change with the small cliams court, and the
    Trading Standards people don't look at individual cases!  
    
    I'm very upset.  How can this man get away with cheating me like this?
    It looks like I'm left with writing a complaint to him...
    I can't just give in, but with no paperwork the small claims will just
    dismiss it.  Any ideas?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Karen
359.8COMICS::WEGGSome hard boiled eggs & some nutsFri Sep 28 1990 20:1814
359.9SUBURB::PARKERGISSAJOBFri Sep 28 1990 21:2711
    I agree with Ian. He is a trader, and he is bound by the Sale of Goods
    Act, and a repair he undertakes must be of reasonable quality, and it
    clearly was not.
    
    I would return, and ask him nicely once more to give you a refund. If
    he does not, write to him formally, stating the basis for your claim.
    
    If and when he replies - give him a reasonable deadline - you can
    decide how to proceed from there.
    
    Steve
359.10Get tough with the shop if not satisfiedLARVAE::BARKERDo not fold, spindle or mutilateFri Sep 28 1990 21:4118
	If after writing and asking nicely you get no satisfaction then perhaps 
at the risk of embarrassing yourself a little you might consider more direct 
action.

	Standing outside his shop and speaking to potential customers on the 
lines of "I was unhappy with a repair that I had done here" or walking around 
with sandwich boards that simply state :

	"I have not been satisfied with the service from this shop"

	Is not libellous but might make him think twice about treating you in 
such a blatantly unfair way.

	I can recommend the above approach (not the sandwich boards I must 
admit) as it forced a garage that I was in dispute with to come around to my 
way of thinking.

Nigel
359.11SUBURB::PARKERGISSAJOBMon Oct 01 1990 13:269
    I think .10 is skating on slightly thin ice. If you approach somebody
    saying "I am dissatisfied with the service here", they will want to
    know more. Once you are forced into conversation, you start to get off
    your "script", and are more likely to be tempted into allegations which
    you cannot prove. In my judgement, once you are communicating with
    third parties, you are far safer doing it in writing, where you can
    ensure everything said is exactly what you mean.
    
    Steve
359.12BIGHUN::THOMASThe Devon DumplingMon Oct 01 1990 15:3317
359.13XNOGOV::KARENwhen you wish upon a star...Mon Oct 01 1990 19:4723
Thanks to everyone for your interest and encouragement...

I've now spoken to the Trading Standards office and they have told me 
that they think I have a fair case.  They've advised me to send a 
letter by recorded delivery to the jeweller explaining all the details 
and asking for a refund on the grounds that the repair was not 
satisfactory, and saying that I will be taking legal action if I do not 
recieve a reply.  Then, if I don't hear anything I should take the 
matter to the County Court. 

They said that I'm within my rights to complain and the fact that the 
jeweller wouldn't guarantee his work doesn't count.  I should be 
covered by the Supply of Goods and Services Act.

I feel it's worth going to go for this course of action.

Wish me luck!

Karen
 



359.14Go for itSUBURB::PARKERGISSAJOBMon Oct 01 1990 20:175
    Good on ya!
    
    Let us know how you get on.
    
    Steve
359.15BURYST::EDMUNDS$ no !fm2r, no commentTue Oct 02 1990 13:036
359.16an updateXNOGOV::KARENwhen you wish upon a star...Fri Oct 19 1990 14:416
As I haven't heard heard anything from the jeweller I'm now completing 
the form for the county court.

Regards,

Karen
359.17a further updateXNOGOV::KARENwhen you wish upon a star...Fri Nov 09 1990 11:437
    The jeweller has replied to the County Court summons saying he is
    within his rights not to refund me.  The preliminary hearing is
    now set for December.
    
    Regards,
    
    Karen
359.18Victory!XNOGOV::KARENwhen you wish upon a star...Wed Dec 19 1990 16:5813
I feel I should convey my good news...

I went to the County Court today for the preliminary hearing.  As the 
jeweller had decided not to turn up the registrar made an award in my favour.
The jeweller has 14 days in which to pay for the cost of the repair, plus the 
court fee; in total 47 pounds.

As you can probably imagine, I'm feeling pretty happy right now.

Thanks again for all your support and good wishes.  It's been a long 
wait, but it's been a worthwhile one.

Karen
359.19ARRODS::CARTERTreat me like I'm a bad girl...Fri Dec 21 1990 15:278
Well done Karen...

To be honest I'm surprised how quick this has been to be resolved...

I thought taking something through the Courts would taker much longer!


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