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Conference govt02::basingstoke

Title: * BASINGSTOKE - Gateway to Wessex *
Notice:BASINGSTOKE - John Arlott lived here - then left, I wonder why
Moderator:COMICS::CORNEJ
Created:Wed Jul 27 1988
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:925
Total number of notes:5875

294.0. "Gritty Bits in my tea woes" by LARVAE::NISBET_D (Dougie Nisbet) Mon Apr 30 1990 18:26

Any permanent answers to stopping horrible white stuff appearing in kettle? I've
started descaling periodically (the kettle that is), but would be interested in
a more permanent answer. Investing megabucks on a filter wouldn't interest me.
Some mysterious, hitherto unheard of wonder potion should do the trick. That
funny metal wire mesh thing in the bottom of my kettle doesn't.

Dougie

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294.1HAMPS::MANSFIELD_SAn English SarahMon Apr 30 1990 19:049
294.2Or for the price of a tea-strainer...HAMPS::MANSFIELD_SAn English SarahMon Apr 30 1990 19:053
    
    Alternatively, do what my mum does & use a tea strainer after the
    kettle's boiled.
294.3This wor... ArghhhhLARVAE::MOORE_ADont Worry- Its only 1's and 0'sMon Apr 30 1990 19:2211
    
    I find a few drops of concentrated hydrochloric acid in the kettle
    whenever you fill up does the trick.
    
    It makes the coffee taste B****y awful but the kettle is nice and
    clean.
    
    Regards
    
    Andrew
    
294.4HAMPS::THAYER_SmeowMon Apr 30 1990 20:1812
    Dougie,
    
    Go for the jug water filter!  My brand new kettle furred up within
    a week of moving to Basingstoke and my coffee was undrinkable because
    of the scum on the side of the cup.
    
    I bought a "Brita" water filter and descaled the kettle.
    
    3 months on and I still don't have a scaley kettle, nor is my coffee
    scummy, nor does the coffee taste B****y awful!
        
    Susi
294.5KERNEL::MOUNTFORDMon Apr 30 1990 20:524
    	Have you considered a water softener? But not specifically
    recommneded for drinking water. We keep 2 jug kettles on the go.
    
    Richard.
294.6Don't leave the filters in too long.TASTY::JEFFERYIs "Bones" the real McCoy ??Tue May 01 1990 00:3112
    Hi,
    
    Talking about the concentrated Hydrochloric acid. From what I remember
    of my Chemistry lessons, The ion exchangers (which is what I think the
    water softeners use), eventually run out of H and OH ions to exchange
    for the Sulphates, Calcium and Sodium ions, and instead swap a OH in
    the water for a Sulphate. This makes good old H2SO4 or Sulphuric Acid!
    
    I think that some water softeners use litmus, and when this goes red,
    you should change the filter.
    
    Mark.
294.7Ahh ... BostikLARVAE::MOORE_ADont Worry- Its only 1's and 0'sTue May 01 1990 12:595
    
    Ok - that's the last time I try to engage in humourous diversions 
    with you lot !
    
    
294.8BIGHUN::THOMASThe Devon DumplingWed May 02 1990 19:1613
	Another suggestion:

			Move to Plymouth



	I had a thirteen-year old kettle when I moved here, no scale whatsoever,
	after the first use here you could see scale already forming.

	Heather    
    

294.9YUPPY::FOXHarry Stow-Crat, Esq.Wed May 02 1990 20:322
    Put a couple of seashells in the kettle and leave them there.
    
294.10KERNEL::HUTCHINGSLunch is for wimpsThu May 03 1990 14:071
    Don't drink tea
294.11try thisCURRNT::WRIGHTLDIR can make the earth moveThu May 03 1990 15:4810
    I had the same problem. So I bought a lump of metal which you put
    in the kettle. This attracts the scale and leaves youre water nice
    and clean.
    
    The lump of metal is like a cyclindrical roll of wire mesh about
    1 inch in diameter and length and costs about 50p.
    
    
    Tony
    
294.12I don't drink tea...KERNEL::ABELLThu May 03 1990 15:532
    
    ....and there I was thinking that that was a "BRILLO" pad...
294.13Scale - well you get used to itXNOGOV::HELENThu May 03 1990 17:495
    In our kettle that seams to make it worse cause it kinda breaks all
    the scale up into smaller pieces, so you still get pieces of scale in
    your tea - they're just smaller.
    
    Hele  Helen.
294.14Best BuyLARVAE::BARKERDo not fold, spindle or mutilateThu May 03 1990 19:287
	The current issue of the consumer magazine 'Which' has a test of kettle 
(& coffee pot) descalers. I was astonished to find that there are over a dozen 
on the market.

	Best Buy was Ketlene - Kettle Fur Remover

Nigel
294.15KERNEL::HUTCHINGSLunch is for wimpsThu May 03 1990 20:008
    re: .11
    
    see .1
    
    "That funny metal wire mesh thing in the bottom of my kettle doesn't..."

    nuff said..??
    
294.16Filter it - it's the only way...SUBURB::MAYNEDNorm Tebbit for prime MinisterFri May 04 1990 16:4413
    
    I gave up with the metal mesh things as the improvement wasn't that
    terrific. What I ended up doing was buying some stuff called 'Oz'
    to clean out the kettle once and for all, and then bought myself
    a Brita water filter. I only use filtered water and after, what
    6 months my kettles still ok, no scum on the top of my tea or coffee
    (which I drink black, so it's usually worse).
    
    total cost, about #15 but worth every penny.
    
    'till sanity,
    
    	Derek.
294.17Water Softener is Probbly the AnswerLARVAE::NISBET_DDougie NisbetFri May 04 1990 21:295
Hi Derek! NotOnTheHeadCounters of the wrold Unite! You must inviteme up for a
nice cup of tea sometime?

Dougie

294.18ARRODS::CARTERWe arra champions!Thu May 10 1990 16:229
294.19COMICS::WEGGSome hard boiled eggs & some nutsThu May 10 1990 17:1719
       Having lived all my life in hard water areas, I've always taken
       chalk deposits in my tea for granted. I only discovered soft water 
       when I visited friends in the West Country and noticed that:
       (A) Their wedding present kettle was still as good as new
           internally 6 months later and 
       (B) having a shower would result in a mountain of frothy soap
           suds that were very difficult to get rid of.

       My wife, however, hates the fact that small sections of the white
       cliffs of Dover regularly accumulate in our kettle, and she
       descales it every month.

       It's worth remembering that gritty tea isn't the only effect of
       hard water. The scale forms when water his heated above a certain
       temperature (I forget what it is), so unless you do something
       about it, you can expect it to accumulate in your central heating
       system, electric emersion heater, steam iron and washing machine.

       Ian.
294.20Never mind the tea what about my showerCOMICS::MILLARNo Porn please I'm GraphicThu May 10 1990 17:248
    Is there some sort of removeable filter that you could insert into the
    cold mains supply of the house.  As Ian mentioned the kettle is only
    one problem, I have an electric shower that has to have the shower head
    thumped against the wall every other day.  
    
    Regards
    
    Bruce
294.21Well, I have seen one!!MALLET::HOOK_RSteaming Locknut.Thu May 10 1990 19:4519
    
    >> Is there some sort of removeable filter that you could insert into the
    >> cold mains supply of the house.
    
    In a plumbers merchant last Saturday, I notice a "Ceramic Cartridge"
    device that fits into the rising mains and claims to remove the
    scale-making bits in the water (how's that for a technical
    description?).
    
    Unlike the earlier "Ceramic magnet" device (which I know works), the 
    cartridge is removable for cleaning.  Apparently there are two 
    versions, one with a ceramic catridge (which will need to be replaced 
    from time to time) or a stainless steel version (which is supposed to 
    last forever).
    
    The price was approx 56 pounds for the Ceramic version and approx 80
    pounds for the stainless steel version.
    
    Richard who_is_thinking_about_it_but_needs_convincing.
294.22Go for it, and then let us know!!HAMPS::JORDANChris Jordan, London Technology Group, UKFri May 11 1990 20:3613
    We had a plumber come and fix a new radiator in the  house... he
    said that he had been using a filter on his mains in-let for the
    last 10 years... he had no problems, and did NOT have  the problem
    that 'water softeners' do  of having to fill it up with salt every
    month.
    
    He suggested that it would be possible to re-coop the cost (and
    his fees for installing it) in a little over 12 months... (due to
    better heating and free-er movement of water around the system -
    and also less breakdowns were likely in the boiler and pump, when
    it tries to pump  these bits of Dover around the system).
    
    As yet we haven't tried it, but it certainly seemed a good idea...