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Conference govt02::basingstoke

Title: * BASINGSTOKE - Gateway to Wessex *
Notice:BASINGSTOKE - John Arlott lived here - then left, I wonder why
Moderator:COMICS::CORNEJ
Created:Wed Jul 27 1988
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:925
Total number of notes:5875

649.0. "Big Brother is watching" by KERNEL::SHELLEYR () Thu May 20 1993 14:15

    Anyone notice the "high level photography" van monitoring the
    roundabout at the end of hatch warren lane where it meets Cliddesden
    Lane ? Yesterday it was the other end of the new Cliddesden lane
    extension.
    
    If you don't know what I'm talking about, its a van with a security type
    camera perched ontop of a great big mast about twice the height of a
    lamp post.
    
    Whats it all about ?
    
    Royston
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649.1ARNIES::SMITHP1Early-afternoon catatoniaThu May 20 1993 14:195
	I noticed it yesterday at the Sainsbury's roundabout. It looked
	as if it was photographing the new shopping extension.

		p1
649.2WIZZER::PARRYTrevor ParryThu May 20 1993 17:074
    I guess it is for the land development that is going on there.  Why not
    stop and ask them next time you pass :-)
    
    tp
649.3Road Watching?KERNEL::MORRISWhich universe did you dial?Fri May 21 1993 13:0710
    If it were land development, why was it parked at the Kempshott
    Roundabout on the A30 last night?  There ain't no land to develop.
    
    Unless it is monitoring traffic flows to identify the impact on road
    systems of new land development.
    
    Nah - that sounds too much like careful planning and we know that
    Councils don't do that!
    
    Cynical of Basingstoke
649.4WIZZER::FISCHERI can always sleep standing upFri May 21 1993 16:294
There was something in the Gazette last week about the 
extension to Sainsbury's. maybe it's the protesters!!!

Ian
649.6 Uh!!KERNEL::MENDELSOHNGreg Mendelsohn, Remote ServicesFri May 21 1993 18:308
    
    Is that the Cottage Lane that comes into Woods Lane just behind the
    Jolly Farmer?
    
    I thought that road had been closed ages ago.
    
    Greg
    
649.7NoKERNEL::DLLOYDSun May 23 1993 02:257
    Greg,
    
    For a man who actually lives in Cliddesdon, you show a scant regard for
    the village's history. Cottage Lane runs into Woods Lane by Cliddesdon
    library.
    
    David L.
649.8UKARC1::HUDSONThat's what I thinkSun May 23 1993 17:573
    Is that next to the Tandoori then?
    
    Nick Cunnea
649.9KERNEL::MENDELSOHNGreg Mendelsohn, Remote ServicesMon May 24 1993 22:0914
  Re .7:

  David,  For somebody who lives not too far from Cliddesden you show a scant
  regard for correct spelling.  The spelling is CliddesdEn, not CliddesdOn.
  Besides, it _does_ run just behind the library and joins WOods Lane
  _opposite_ the library, so my statement still stands.

  Re .8:

  Nick, your just being flippant now.  BTW when are you going to get around to
  changing your username ;-)

    Greg
649.10shouldn't throw stonesAUSSIE::GARSONnouveau pauvreTue May 25 1993 03:126
re .9
    
>  Nick, your just being flippant now.
         ^^^^
    
    you're
649.12Live at the Cliddesden Bowl...KERNEL::DLLOYDTue May 25 1993 17:096
    
    This is just ridiculous. 
    
    Or perhaps that should be: this just is ridiculous ?
    
    David L.
649.15Funny handshakes ;-)KERNEL::MENDELSOHNGreg Mendelsohn, Remote ServicesWed May 26 1993 12:4715

    But there is an agreement in place with Sony that states that people are
    allowed to use the carpark as a shortcut.

    This goes back to when planning permission was applied to build the Sony
    building.  At that time, Cliddesden Parish Council objected to the plans
    on the basis that the building dominates the skyline (stand outside
    Cliddesden Station and see what I mean).  The Parish Council asked for a
    row of conifers to be planted between the building and the M3 to screen
    building.  Sony pushed back on this and did a deal with Basingstoke and
    Deane Borough Council that efectively got the plans through.  This "deal"
    was the use of the carpark as a shortcut

    Greg (who hates looking at the back of the Sony building from his lounge)
649.16KERNEL::SMITHERSJLiving on the culinary edge....Wed May 26 1993 13:127
    Say, this is all news to me.  What short cut?  What, if I turn left
    into the Sony Car Park and what, carry on going or something?  Will
    that bring me out into Cliddesden/don etc?
    
    Hopefully yours,
    
    julia
649.17GL ->>CliddesdenLARVAE::BEALESecurity is a Thumb and a Blanket...Wed May 26 1993 13:597
    Well, the 'van' was monitoringthe Golden Lion roundabout at 9:15 this
    morning. Either its part of a far wider ranging traffic survey than
    this note has surmised - or there is a short cut from the Golden Lion
    direct to Cliddesden!
    
    
    ANdy
649.18not for much longerKERNEL::COLOMBOI like bowed legs @@Wed May 26 1993 16:358
    
    Is that the one that brings you out near McDonalds in Cliddesden ??
    
    I think BigMac is planning to close it down anyway because there aren't
    enough people purchasing as they pass 'thru'.
    
    ..Jason
    
649.19KERNEL::CORNEJWed May 26 1993 19:234
The van was at the Viables roundabout at lunchtime.  Is there just one, or 
are they breeding?  There was alao a camara on a lamp post opposite the van...

Jc
649.20Ministry of Transport's covert operationsWAYOUT::TALBOTTrevor TalbotThu May 27 1993 17:4818
I think that someone is pulling your pilsner!

Surely it's obvious!! The camera vans being used are 
gathering data on roundabout construction and the use of
there after, well we are the experts in this sphere!

The data may also be related to the recent transport
departments ideas on charging road users for the use
motorways. Although, not mentioned directly a hidden
item could be our beloved roundabouts. Since these 
marvels of technology seem popular in Basingstoke 
they are trying to work out the optimal position for 
the toll booths.

Probably the best...

-Trev
649.22KERNEL::BELLHear the softly spoken magic spellFri May 28 1993 15:2111
  I thought it was a variation of those cameras used to detect people jumping
  the lights ... anyone who races across a roundabout at the last minute gets
  photo'd and a summons through the door in a few weeks time.  The reason they
  keep moving it around is to try and solve a technical hitch in decoding the
  number plates, they haven't got the angle quite right yet ... the most recent
  statement from the pilot project referred to the high incidence of illegal
  number plates in this area that obviously weren't visible from a distance of
  twenty feet ... vertically ...

  Frank
649.23KERNEL::SHELLEYRFri May 28 1993 20:294
    Folks bemused by these replies may want to check out note 325 (Esp. .9
    onwards).
    
    Royston
649.24TV link in Woods LaneCOMICS::WOODI like traffic lights but only when they're greenTue Jun 01 1993 14:349
Did anybody ever find out where Woods Lane was ? I was going to ask
before but I couldn't remember my question (325.12). I didn't think it came
out in Jays Close, but rather next to the BBC TV Centre in Shepherds
Bush, London W12 8QT. This would explain all the TV cameras.

Just a thought

Richard
649.25private joke follows,....CSC32::S_MAUFEthis space for rentFri Jun 04 1993 01:289
<<< Note 649.24 by COMICS::WOOD "I like traffic lights but only when they're green" >>>
                           -< TV link in Woods Lane >-

>>Richard

    a clue, it isn't off The Oval 8-))
    
    Simon
    
649.27I had to askCOMICS::WOODI like traffic lights but only when they're greenFri Jun 04 1993 20:428
What a load of Kakadoo Tony.

I always thought I was somebody famous in a previous life. BTW, I went to
visit Oztraylier and not the Anti-podes. What is a pode anyway, any relation
to a Just ?

R. De Wood II
649.28AUSSIE::GARSONnouveau pauvreSat Jun 05 1993 05:243
    re .-1
    
    Streuth, cobbah, a "pode" is a just's foot.
649.29Where's that bridge ?WIZZER::PARRYTrevor ParryWed Jul 28 1993 17:468
    re: .14 and note 325.
    
    There isn't a bridge over the M3 between the footbridge by ICL and the
    where Woods lane goes under the M3.  I've driven up and down many times
    and just can't see it.  Is it 'sky' coloured perhaps ?  Have the
    demolished it now ?
    
    tp
649.30KERNEL::SHELLEYRThu Jul 29 1993 15:103
    Trevor, Haven't you got any sense of humour ? :-)
    
    Royston
649.31WIZZER::PARRYTrevor ParryThu Jul 29 1993 16:105
    Not when it comes to trying to go home betwen 5:35 and 5:55. :-)
    However, there are some nice houses in the area behind the Jolly
    Farmer.
    
    tp
649.33BLKPUD::WATTERSONPA humble CSC personFri Jul 30 1993 22:487
    
    Tony,
    
    check it again - I believe the current bridge has been sent to America
    to help the 'Mid-West flood damage bridge appeal'. 
    
    Paul
649.34From Sony Car Park to Sydney HarbourGIDDAY::PARSONSWhich Space Corps Directive ?Mon Aug 02 1993 04:428
    
    Paul,
    
    I think you're mistaken.  It's just been installed across Sydney
    Harbour as the second harbour bridge to help with traffic congestion
    in the lead up to the 2000 Olympics.
    
    Tony.
649.36KERNEL::MCGOWANWed Aug 04 1993 15:454
    and what makes you think the Olympics would want anything to do with
    Sydney in 2000 ?    :-)
    
    Pete
649.37Basingstoke for the 2004 Olympics ?GIDDAY::PARSONSWhich Space Corps Directive ?Thu Aug 05 1993 05:466
    
    > and what makes you think the Olympics would want anything to do with
    > Sydney in 2000 ?    :-)
    
    Sorry Pete, I forgot that in the UK the media still think Manchester
    are in the running  ;-)