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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

3757.0. "People trying to come back" by QUICKP::KEHOE (Mr. QuickPIC) Thu Mar 23 1995 12:51

    In the last week or two I have run into a few ex-Digital people
    who have expressed a sincere interest in coming back.
    
    My first reaction was, "What, are you INSANE?" but then I looked
    at the situation they were in and in spite of the problems we have
    apparently they are of the opinion that Digital is on the upswing
    again and the jobs they went to are just not that challenging
    (although most are paying better with better benefits.)
    
    Now, there are certain parts of this company that I would not 
    recommend them coming back into, but I can see that some
    operations here are booming and doing well.
    
    Has anyone else had this experience of people wanting to come back
    after a year or so?
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3757.2not even the better pay was worth itREGENT::LASKOThe CPBU hotline is: 1.800.777.4343Thu Mar 23 1995 13:002
    Re: .0   Yes. Although in the case(s) I'm familiar with, the "outside
             world" was even more screwed up than Digital is/was.
3757.3DEC hiring???GRANPA::GHALSTEADThu Mar 23 1995 13:073
    A friend of mine that took the early retirement program approx. 2 years
    ago got a call from DEC the other day. They wanted to see if he was
    interested in coming back to work.  
3757.4CSC32::M_JILSONDoor handle to door handleThu Mar 23 1995 13:319
                    <<< Note 3757.3 by GRANPA::GHALSTEAD >>>
                               -< DEC hiring??? >-

The Colorado CSC is currently bringing a variety of temps in all areas 
(VMS, Networks, OSF, etc.) and I believe some of them are permanent 
positions.  We have a number of TFSO folks back working temp contracts, 
from 6 months to 1 year in length.

Jilly
3757.5Those now working for minimum wage might be interested in returning...ROWLET::AINSLEYLess than 150 kts. is TOO slow!Thu Mar 23 1995 14:019
re: .0  Most of the people I know who were TFSO'd are so glad to be out of our
stressful environment, that you'd have to put a gun to their heads to make
them come back.  One person said, "It's great to be able to spend all my
energy on fighting the competition (and winning) rather than the internal
politics at Digital."

So, I guess my answer to your question is, Nope.

Bob
3757.6CSC32::WILCOXHakuna MetadataThu Mar 23 1995 15:524
I've seen a number of people who went to a rather large company in
Colorado Springs trying to come back to Digital.  

Liz
3757.7Coming back in drovesSNAX::PIERPONTThu Mar 23 1995 16:063
    People get hired back every week.[I see the reports]
    
    Howard
3757.8Speaking from personal experienceNEMAIL::BARNESThu Mar 23 1995 18:2723
    It is happening. I can speak only for myself and why I returned.
     
    I was TFSO'd 6/94 and returned as a full time employee on 1/95. Unlike
    .0, I did NOT seek to come back. When I left in June, I felt my Digital
    days were behind me and I was excited about the future. I threw myself
    into my job search and felt very comfortable about my progess, when I
    was approached about coming back.
    
    I knew it would take a long time to gain the appropriate approvals and
    I did not bank on this happening. Quite the opposite. As a result when
    the approvals were obtained and an offer extended, I had other offers
    on the table.
    
    I elected to come back to Digital because it was the best offer. I
    could have elected to not accept any of the offers but emotionally it
    was important to get back to work and a positive cash flow is always
    nice to have.
    
    My advice to those seeking to come back is that it is a long shot,
    don't count on it, and work your other leads aggresively. 
    
    hhb 
     
3757.9Even the tech writers want to come back...TNPUBS::J_GOLDSTEINRun over on the Info HighwayThu Mar 23 1995 21:019
In the last month, I've heard about 3-4 people who want to return (and these
are technical writers who are willing to come back, can ya imagine that!). I've
heard that it's the people and the flexibility that they  miss most. 

Maybe ex-Digits really can't adjust to the outside world :-)


joan

3757.10SX4GTO::WANNOORThu Mar 23 1995 22:002
    
    -1 that's a scary thought!  
3757.11been there, done thatSUBPAC::SKALSKIThu Mar 23 1995 23:3520
    
    
    		Believe it or not I'm one of those who came back.
    	I left in 90 from Hudson SCO, at the time we (my wife who
    	also worked at HLO) needed a change.  This was primarily
    	driven by economics, just married, looking for a home, 
    	starting a family etc.  Put the feelers out and wound up
    	at Intel Albuquerque.  Learned alot, bought that house,
    	had 2 kids but I realised something was missing.  Mostly
    	our families.  I always kept in touch with friends at HLO,
    	left under good terms and waited for an opportunity(FAB6).
    	Left behind #1 semiconductor company in the world for DIGITAL
    	SEMICONDUCTOR and the worlds fastest Microprocessor ALPHA!
    	
    
    
    					THE SHARK
    
    
    
3757.12PowerPC rules OK.MASALA::GBRUCES|i|l|e|n|t|n|i|g|h|tFri Mar 24 1995 05:467
    That's funny were the other way round,Digital Semiconductor and Alpha
    are leaving us behind.
    
    Best regards
    GB.
    
    
3757.13MKOTS3::LANGLOISWhch brdge to burn,whch to crossFri Mar 24 1995 11:5310
    I know of several people who've left and, for one reason or another,
    would like to return (although one was just offered a job and decided
    to turn it down because he wasn't entirely comfortable yet with DEC's
    continued viability). He voluntarily left DEC last June and the company
    he's at is in no great shape either but he's personally done well
    there. So, I think for him it's a case of the devil you know versus the
    one you don't.
    The folks I know are all in the networks space.
    
    							Thom...
3757.14TOKNOW::METCALFEEschew Obfuscatory MonikersFri Mar 24 1995 13:4025
I'll have to let you know.  ;-)

As for flexibility, it is a matter of jumping to the right job.
I nipped an interview in the bud when it was apparent that the 
manager's metric for a good job was whether or not I'd work a 
minimum or 45 hours.  I told this manager that I have worked overtime
when the situation called for it but that it has been rare with 
me.  I asked how he would feel if I came in and exceeded his 
expectations (and all my performance reviews exceeded expectations)
and turned my terminal off after 40 hours and went home.  He leaned
back and said, "Of course the project is most important but... I
have other people who are already putting in more than 40 hours and 
I have to think of the team."  I knew the interview was over one millisecond
after he used the word "but."  To me, it showed a lack of perspecacity
or worse, a devaluing of the worker (45 hours for 40 hours pay is a 12%
reduction on compensation, folks).

If you have the time, take your time and select the right job, and
you'll minimize trying to come back or leaving.  Digital is (or was)
a great place to work.  It provided me with the means and opportunity
to exceed the job requirements.  Maybe I'd come back, but if my
philosophy about job selection is correct, I'll simply wish you all 
well from my new, happy place of employment.

Mark
3757.15Nice to hear you're back.NOVA::MTAYLORNot powered by Zima(tm)Sun Mar 26 1995 18:4812
!                      <<< Note 3757.8 by NEMAIL::BARNES >>>
!                     -< Speaking from personal experience >-
!    hhb 
 

          Is this the one and only "Henry Hammond Barnes III (or II)"

     If so, hi, from a former report of yours in IHFS at TWO.

     Mike Taylor (not on ELF anymore, working for Oracle now)
         

3757.16Guilty as chargedNEMAIL::BARNESMon Mar 27 1995 11:564
    re: 15  Yes Mike you caught me...Good to be back.
    
    Ham
    
3757.17yo Barnes !MKOTS3::FLATHERSMon Mar 27 1995 14:307
    
      Hey, Ham !!!!  How are ya ?????????/
    
      from another  old-time report !!!!!
    
     Jack