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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

3610.0. "How to send mail to AOL?" by AKOCOA::DOUGAN () Wed Jan 04 1995 18:19

    Can someone please tell me or point me at the appropriate conference?
    
    How does one send mail from A1 and/or Vaxmail to someone on AOL?  seems
    we have a lot of people now telling us their @aol.com name.  I've tried
    sending mail in all sorts of ways to them, and myself but can't get
    through.
    
    Advice for an internet neophyte is appreciated.
    
    Axel
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3610.1USnRMC::"user@aol.com"MILORD::BISHOPTake hold of the life that is truly lifeWed Jan 04 1995 18:2510
    USnRMC::"user@aol.com"
    
    Where n = 1,2, or 3 depending on where in the country you are.
    Since you're in MA, I think it's US2RMC, at least that's what I 
    use from NH.
    
    user is the person's account name (or whatever they call it) at 
    AOL. 
    
    - Richard.
3610.2internet mailNRSTA2::HORGANTim HorganWed Jan 04 1995 18:3311
    Axel,
    
    From the recently published "Getting Started on the Internet" Guide,
    section 2:
    
    	US1RMC::"username@aol.com"
    
    US1RMC (and US2RMC and several others) is a mail concentrator that
    allows us to send mail out of the internal network. 
    
    /Tim
3610.3ALL-IN-1 makes it easy now...AMCUCS::SWIERKOWSKISWed Jan 04 1995 19:186
re .0

From ALL-IN-1, name@aol.com@internet

Regards,
Susan S.
3610.4PERFOM::WIBECANGoing on an AlphaquestWed Jan 04 1995 19:238
Regional Mail Concentrators:

  US1RMC -> located in Littleton, Ma.
  US2RMC -> located in Nashua, N.H.
  US3RMC -> located in Palo Alto, Ca.
  VBORMC -> located in Valbonne, France
  JRDMAX -> located in Japan

3610.5ICS::CROUCHSubterranean Dharma BumThu Jan 05 1995 10:095
    re: .4
    
    US4RMC -> located in Maynard Ma. 
    
    
3610.6AKOCOA::DOUGANThu Jan 05 1995 11:521
    Great - thanks
3610.7Don't forget the triple quotes...SWAM2::BARNETTE_NENuclear Physics for DummiesThu Jan 05 1995 15:2014
    
    
>    From the recently published "Getting Started on the Internet" Guide,
>    section 2:
    
>    	US1RMC::"username@aol.com"
    
    When I do this from DCL I get an error. However, when I do THIS:
    
        	US1RMC::"""username@aol.com"""
    
    It seems to go through. I'll check with Mr. Username tonight to see
    if he got his mail on AOL.
    
3610.8reply 3 worked for certain...ROMEOS::TREBILCOT_ELThu Jan 05 1995 15:204
    FYI:  When I tried it from .2's suggestion it didn't work, but when I
    sent the way mentioned in .3 it worked.
    
    
3610.9KLAP::porterkeep reading and no-one gets hurt!Thu Jan 05 1995 15:4211
re .7

Of course (he says, smugly).  It's normal DCL stuff.

You want to pass quotes to MAIL.  However, quotes
have meaning to DCL.  The rules are that you have to double
the real quotes and enclose the whole string in quotes.

By the time MAIL sees it, DCL has mangled it back to what
you really need.

3610.10Avoid the command lineMUNDIS::SSHERMANSteve Sherman @MFRThu Jan 05 1995 15:4918
re -.2

I also had problems sending from DCL, for example,

	$ mail filename.txt VBORMC::"user@provider.com"

failed, but when I called up mail, it worked fine, eg

	$ mail
	> send filename.txt
	> to: VBORMC::"user@provider.com"
	> subject:
	> exit

Wasn't aware of the possibility of doubling the quotes, however.  I'll
give that a try, next opportunity.

Steve
3610.11DPDMAI::EYSTERFluoride&Prozac/NoCavities/No prob!Thu Jan 05 1995 15:557
    
    I defined a logical for a friend I send mail to across the net.  It
    looks like:
    
    $  define/nolog buddy ""scapas::us2rmc::"""buddy@us.dell.com"""
    
    Should solve it.
3610.12KLAP::porterkeep reading and no-one gets hurt!Thu Jan 05 1995 17:0621
>    $  define/nolog buddy ""scapas::us2rmc::"""buddy@us.dell.com"""
                           ^^

Those quotes do nothing and should be deleted since they
make it look even more mysterious than it otherwise is.

My preferred quoting would be

     $ define/nolog buddy "foo::bar::""mumble@frotz.com"""

but that's just because it makes DCL look a little more
like it has some reasonable lexical structure. The quotes 
are then

			start-of-string
				embedded-quote	
					embedded-quote
						end-of-string



3610.13DPDMAI::EYSTERFluoride&Prozac/NoCavities/No prob!Thu Jan 05 1995 17:202
    Didn't say it couldn't be cosmetically cleaner.  Just said it worked,
    honcho.
3610.14Rule-of-thumbAD::MCGEEAt this point, we don't know.Thu Jan 05 1995 20:053
    Whenever you have a problem in DCL just start throwing quotes at it :-)
    
    Bill""""""""""""
3610.15":-)"HLDE01::VUURBOOM_RRoelof Vuurboom @ APD, DTN 829 4066Fri Jan 06 1995 07:231
    
3610.16Official Gateway nodesTOKNOW::METCALFEEschew Obfuscatory MonikersMon Jan 09 1995 14:5120
From a data sheet I have:

DECWRL::    Palo Alto, CA    30000 mpd (messages per day)  all users
DECPA::     Palo Alto, CA     5000 mpd  areas 10, 30
CRL::       Cambridge, MA     7500 mpd  for area 37
DECUAC::    Landover, MD      4000 mpd  ULTRIX resource centers, sales
VBROMC::    Valbonne, France 15000 mpd  areas 40, 41, 43, 44, 46-51
 
US1RMC::    Littleton, MA    15000 mpd  areas 4, 9, 1, 29, 55, 56
US2RMC::    Nashua, NH       15000 mpd  areas 2, 19
US4RMC::    Maynard, MA         ?  (just saw in a reply a few back)

The sheet I have is nearing a year old which says that "VBORMC, US1RMC, 
and US2RMC exchange mail with DECWRL which remains the actual border 
gateway machine between Digital and the Internet."  I do not know how up
to date this information is; whether each of these gateways are now
their own gateways.  But now you have a closer approximation of which
nodes are for your better use.

Mark
3610.17Latest statsICS::CROUCHSubterranean Dharma BumMon Jan 09 1995 15:4439
    Gateway and Regional Mail Concentrator Statistics for December 1994
    ====================================================================
    
    
    Internet Gateway                Messages    Average     Total
        IP Host name                Delivered   Delay       KB
                                                (hh:mm:ss)
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
        decuac.dec.com                 9,934    00:00:45     37,321
        crl.dec.com                  107,553    00:07:24    770,841
        inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com         549,635    00:12:24  3,300,529
        inet-gw-2.pa.dec.com         477,742    00:10:22  2,954,457
        inet-gw-3.pa.dec.com         399,327    00:10:40  2,463,009
        jnet-gw-1.dec-j.co.jp        272,258    00:10:02    440,401
        
    Internet Gateway Totals:       1,816,449              9,966,558



    RMC/Mail Relay                  Messages    Average     Total
        IP Host name (DECnet name)  Delivered   Delay       KB
                                                (hh:mm:ss)
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
        easynet.crl.dec.com (CRL)     82,869    00:02:51  1,025,414
        mts-gw.pa.dec.com (DECPA)    134,402    00:01:37  1,019,110
        enet-gw.pa.dec.com (DECWRL)   29,887    00:01:46    418,764
        us1rmc.bb.dec.com (US1RMC)   195,877    00:01:36  3,675,045
        us2rmc.zko.dec.com (US2RMC   199,699    00:05:20  1,139,373
        us3rmc.bb.dec.com (US3RMC)   156,695    00:06:42  1,440,740
        us4rmc.pko.dec.com (US4RMC)  171,686    00:02:51  1,068,512
        vbormc.vbo.dec.com (VBORMC)  184,037    00:10:03  4,345,975
        jrdmax.jrd.dec.com (JRDMAX)   57,830    00:00:41    407,218
    
    RMC/Mail Relay Totals:         1,212,982             14,540,151



    
3610.18QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centMon Jan 09 1995 16:254
The current "regional mail concentrator" list is kept in UPSAR::GATEWAYS
note 1988 (see latest replies).

				Steve
3610.19Re: Stats published in .17LJSRV2::KALIKOWPentium: Intel's Blew-Chip SpecialMon Jan 09 1995 21:591
        Well that settles it.  We're using the Internet FAR too much.
3610.20ROMEOS::TREBILCOT_ELTue Jan 10 1995 02:235
    notesfiles too
    
    ;^) ;^) ;^) ;^) ;^) ;^) ;^)
    
    
3610.21Net TrafficTOKNOW::METCALFEEschew Obfuscatory MonikersTue Jan 10 1995 14:3914
I wonder what the noise-to-nugget factor is?

Both in notes and networking in and outside of Digital, we engage in 
human interaction.  A lot of it is "noise"; something that doesn't
benefit anyone except the person creating the noise.  Some of it is
"nugget"; something that is useful to others or has reapplication.

The network has a lot of noise, but we pick up plenty of nuggets that
have helped us to work more efficiently and more effectively.  Buried
nuggets generally do not change their value to anyone.

Sorry if this is noise.

Mark