| Title: | The Digital way of working |
| Moderator: | QUARK::LIONEL ON |
| Created: | Fri Feb 14 1986 |
| Last Modified: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 5321 |
| Total number of notes: | 139771 |
Do you think the folks at SUN or HP set up a WEBpage and solicited
input on Style internally before opening their pages to the WWWW???
-- John W.
Subj: OpenVMS WWWserver on the Internet
OPENVMS INTERNET WORLD-WIDE-WEBSERVER IS NOW ONLINE
An OpenVMS "Centric" WEBpage is alive well on the DFWLUG DECUS WEBsever
World-Wide-WEB at URL:
http://www.montagar.com/dfwlug/
Almost 350,000 blocks of white papers, OpenVMS rebuttles, Good Articles,
engineering information, and other assorted OpenVMS Positive "Stuff" is
now online and available across the Internet.
Congratulations and many thanks to Warren Sanders and the OpenVMS marketing
team for assembling and building this tribute to OpenVMS!
Anyone with external whitepapers or competitive information and would
like it made available on the Internet and WWW just mail the information
to dfwlug@dfwlug.decus.org. Note that these pages are sponsored by the
DFWLUG, a DECUS Local Users Group in Dallas/Ft Worth Texas. Information
presented is offered under the terms and conditions of a DECUS sponsored
clearing house for software, information or ideas.
Feel free to pass this WEB location along to your customers -- it has
lots of ammunition for defending OpenVMS in the marketplace of ideas;-)
And if your customers can't get to DECUS this week, WEBsurfing the
DFWLUG homepage/BBS is one way of getting a fix. The new OpenVMS
Freeware CD is online and ready for download from the WWW page or
via anonymous FTP from:
anonymous@ftp.montagar.com (courtesy of the DFWLUG;-)
and is available for download (binaries need 2.4 of mosaic or later)
via the world wide web from the DFWLUG homepage:
http://www.montagar.com/dfwlug/
Lots of great stuff! Many, Many thanks and cudos go to Steve Zalewski
of OpenVMS engineering for getting this collection organized, built and
delivered!
OVMS_FREEWARECD62:[000000]
$FREEWARE_README.TXT;3 000000.DIR;1 ADVENT.DIR;1
ARCHIE.DIR;1 BACKUP.SYS;1 BADBLK.SYS;1 BADLOG.SYS;1
BAT.DIR;1 BATCH.DIR;1 BITMAP.SYS;1 BLISS.DIR;1
CD_PLAYER.DIR;1 CMUIP.DIR;1 COLORMAP.DIR;1 COLORWHEEL.DIR;1
COMPRESS_VMS.DIR;1 CONTIN.SYS;1 CORIMG.SYS;1 DECL.DIR;1
DFU020.DIR;1 DISKMAP.DIR;1 DISK_BALANCE.DIR;1 DISK_MONITOR.DIR;1
DISTRIBUTE.DIR;1 DWAUTH.DIR;1 DW_NEWMAIL.DIR;1 EMACS.DIR;1
FINGER.DIR;1 FLIGHT.DIR;1 FLIST.DIR;1 FREEWARE.DIR;1
GCML.DIR;1 GETCMD.DIR;1 GLOB.DIR;1 GOPHER.DIR;1
GZIP.DIR;1 HTML.DIR;1 ICO.DIR;1 IMAGEMAGICK.DIR;1
INDEXF.SYS;1 INFO-ZIP.DIR;1 JED097.DIR;1 JPEG.DIR;1
KERMIT.DIR;1 KILL.DIR;1 LD051.DIR;1 LSTMAIL.DIR;1
LZ.DIR;1 MGFTP.DIR;1 MGSD.DIR;1 MG_FINGER.DIR;1
MMK.DIR;1 MPEG_PLAY.DIR;1 MX041.DIR;1 MXRN.DIR;1
NETLIB017.DIR;1 NEWMAIL.DIR;1 NEWSRDR.DIR;1 NMAIL.DIR;1
NOTICE.DIR;1 NSQUERY.DIR;1 ORPHANS.DIR;1 OSU_HTTPD_1_6.DIR;1
PBMPLUS.DIR;1 PERIODIC.DIR;1 PINE.DIR;1 POVRAY.DIR;1
POVRAY_UTILS.DIR;1 PROCLIST.DIR;1 PRODUCT_USAGE.DIR;1 RAID_EVAL.DIR;1
RAMDISK.DIR;1 RCARD.DIR;1 RELOAD.DIR;1 RMSJNL.DIR;1
SDL.DIR;1 SECURITY.SYS;1 SEND.DIR;1 STRINGS.DIR;1
SUNCLOCK.DIR;1 TTI_INTOUCH.DIR;1 TTI_WSG.DIR;1 TYPCHK.DIR;1
UNZIP.DIR;1 UUE.DIR;1 VFYMAIL.DIR;1 VMS-SW-LIST.DIR;1
VMSTAR.DIR;1 VMS_LOGO.DIR;1 VMS_SHARE.DIR;1 VOLSET.SYS;1
VWSVT.DIR;1 WATCHER.DIR;1 WATCH_MAIL.DIR;1 XANIM.DIR;1
XFISHTANK.DIR;1 XGIF.DIR;1 XGLOBE.DIR;1 XIMQ.DIR;1
XMAG.DIR;1 XMARK.DIR;1 XNEKO.DIR;1 XODOMETER.DIR;1
XPOOL.DIR;1 XPOSTIT.DIR;1 XROACH.DIR;1 XSHUFFLE.DIR;1
XSWARM.DIR;1 XV-3_00A.DIR;1 YADMAN.DIR;1
Total of 110 files.
OpenVMS T6.2 Freeware CD-ROM Release Notes
------------------------------------------
Dear OpenVMS Professional,
Please accept our apology for the following bugs/restrictions,
which were discovered too late to be corrected in the
field test version T6.2 of the OpenVMS Freeware CD-ROM:
o The INTOUCH 4GL "demo" can not be executed without
first installing INTOUCH 4GL to your hard disk.
(Select INTOUCH 4GL from the Freeware Menu for
installation details)
o The INTOUCH 4GL Guided Query Language (GQL) can not
be used.
o As a side effect of the CDROM mastering process,
several aliases (created with SET FILE/ENTER) in the
Emacs directory tree were lost. The workaround is as
follow:
When GNU Emacs is started up, it creates a rooted logical
name using something like this:
$ DEFINE EMACS_LIBRARY DAD<nn>:[EMACS.]/TRANSLATION:CONCEALED
The fix is to create an appropriately named directory, copy
the needed file there, recreate the aliases and redefine
EMACS_LIBRARY as a search list:
$ CREATE/DIRECTORY my_disk:[somedir.COMMON.DATA]
$ COPY EMACS_LIBRARY:[COMMON.DATA]DOC-19.22 -
my_disk:[somedir.COMMON.DATA]DOC-19.22;1
$ SET FILE/ENTER:my_disk:[somedir.COMMON.DATA]DOC-19.22;2 -
my_disk:[somedir.COMMON.DATA]DOC-19.22;1
$ DEFINE EMACS_LIBRARY DAD<nn>:[EMACS.]/TRANSLATION:CONCEALED,-
my_disk:[somedir.]/TRANSLATION:CONCEALED
These problems will be corrected in the final version of the
OpenVMS Freeware CD-ROM.
--
Happy Downloading;-))
John Wisniewski
OpenVMS Partner North Texas/Oklahoma
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| 3568.1 | ooh, my pet peeve! | KLAP::porter | keep reading and no-one gets hurt! | Mon Dec 12 1994 12:30 | 9 |
> An OpenVMS "Centric" WEBpage is alive well on the DFWLUG DECUS WEBsever When we say this sort of thing in public, can we say that it is an "OpenVMS centered" page? There is no such word as "centric". Just because it occurs as a suffix in real words doesn't mean it can be used as a word by itself. | |||||
| 3568.2 | English Is As Good As It Can Ever Be? | LJSRV2::FEHSKENS | len - reformed architect | Mon Dec 12 1994 12:59 | 12 |
re .1 - if the dinosaurs had felt this way we'd never have had birds...
;^)
(Some [not all] evolutionary changes in language are harmless if not
an improvement.)
We now return to your regularly scheduled thread.
len.
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| 3568.3 | evolving Web styles | NRSTA1::HORGAN | Tim Horgan | Mon Dec 12 1994 13:20 | 24 |
re: .0
John, not sure what to make of your comment:
> Do you think the folks at SUN or HP set up a WEBpage and solicited
> input on Style internally before opening their pages to the WWWW???
Two comments. First, I'm not sure what they did for their external
server, but they did a good deal of work on the style and design of
their internal servers, as Jakob Nielsen describes in the paper he
presented at the recent Web Conference in Chicago. See his paper at
http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/IT94/Proceedings/HCI/nielsen/sunweb.html
for details.
Second (obvious) comment is that the Web allows iterative development.
If we don't do it right the first/second/third time we can continually
improve it. We're doing that now with our external Home Pages.
My sense is that, yes, Sun and HP do solicit input on their pages. In
fact HP has funded a project at the OSF Research Institute to
investigate ways they can improve what they have already done on their
external server.
/Tim
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| 3568.4 | Not a slam just a comment... | DPDMAI::WISNIEWSKI | ADEPT of the Virtual Space. | Mon Dec 12 1994 18:22 | 17 |
>John, not sure what to make of your comment:
>> Do you think the folks at SUN or HP set up a WEBpage and solicited
>> input on Style internally before opening their pages to the WWWW???
I'm just saying that it's better to be first then worry about style
later than to be last and have the best an most consistant WEBpages
on the block.
Let's provide content, items and ease of navigation first, then
worry about the color of the borders and size of the map areas...
JMHO
John W.
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| 3568.5 | Pet Peeve -- My dog's name... | DPDMAI::WISNIEWSKI | ADEPT of the Virtual Space. | Mon Dec 12 1994 18:27 | 21 |
> <<< Note 3568.1 by KLAP::porter "keep reading and no-one gets hurt!" >>>
-< ooh, my pet peeve! >-
>> An OpenVMS "Centric" WEBpage is alive well on the DFWLUG DECUS
>WEBsever
>When we say this sort of thing in public, can we say that
>it is an "OpenVMS centered" page? There is no such
>word as "centric". Just because it occurs as a suffix
>in real words doesn't mean it can be used as a word
>by itself.
I believe that by placing "Centric" in quotes I conveyed that
it was nonstandard language usage. The correct usages
should have been "OpenVMScentric". Sorry for any loss of
productivity over this mistake...
John ;-) Wisniewski
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| 3568.6 | Nice | WELCLU::62967::sharkeya | LOGINN - Best of class '94 | Mon Dec 12 1994 21:20 | 10 |
Back to the original.... Just looked at it - its nice - visual impact is high. Looks good. Took a while to download over my 64Kb link. Alan [I have netscape but have turned off the 'display while downloading'] | |||||