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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
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3477.0. "Help with a customer please!" by ROMEOS::TREBILCOT_EL () Mon Oct 31 1994 20:17

    I'm putting this in here because I've been unable to resolve this
    through other channels.  Can someone offer their two cents worth
    please?  
    
    I have a customer who has NetWare and VAX workstations on the network. 
    They have TGV's IP stack on the VAX.  They have 8mm drives hanging off
    the VAXstations and they want to backup from the NetWare servers to the
    tape drives on the VAXes.
    
    I am proposing PATHworks 5.0 and then there are two possibilities for
    backup products ...
    
    Either our Storageworks Desktop Archiver Backup 
    OR
    Networker Save and Restore
    
    Any suggestions?
    
    Also, HOW should I quote the PATHworks?  5.0?  The coexistence piece?
    
    Thanks for any help!
    
    Eliz
    
    
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3477.1no on vms?ROMEOS::TREBILCOT_ELMon Oct 31 1994 21:135
    I just read that DECnsr does not work with VMS.  Is this true?  Maybe I
    have an outdated source of information?
    
    Eliz
     
3477.2ODIXIE::MOREAUKen Moreau;Sales Support;South FLMon Oct 31 1994 22:368
DECnsr (Network Save & Restore) has been officially de-committed for OpenVMS.
It started on DEC OSF/1, and is apparently doing very well there (good 
performance, happy customers, etc), and was being field tested on OpenVMS
VAX.  The performance was never there, and there were very few customers,
so it was cancelled and never became a product.

-- Ken Moreau
   who had one of the few customers interested in this solution
3477.3DECnsr <> VMSDECWET::FARLEEInsufficient Virtual um...er....Tue Nov 01 1994 14:4412
You are right.
There were several problems with the VMS port of Networker Save and Restore.
Not the least of which were budgetary. (It would have cost a lot to support
as compared to the incremental income produced).

NSR is supported on Ultrix as well as OSF/1, where it is doing very well.

So, for the base noter's problem, they should talk to the POLYCENTER
archive/Backup folks unless a move to OSF/1 is in the wind.

Kevin Farlee
DECnsr Engineering
3477.4TAPE::NOBREGATue Nov 01 1994 16:276
    The StorageWorks Desktop Backup/Archiver is implementing TCP support.
    The server will support TCP via UCX. The Windows client will support
    the Microsoft WinSock API for TCP. There are no current plans to test
    or qualify with TGV's IP stack. 
    
    					Bob...
3477.5TGV Multinet and UCX provide similar functionality ?TPSYS::BHATThu Nov 03 1994 21:434
    
    The new name for UCX is DEC TCP/IP Services. If they have TGV Multinet
    on the VAX, that should provide the same functionality from the VMS
    side.