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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

3370.0. "Microsoft product woes...do we have an internal contact or portfolio manager?" by BALZAC::62552::BULMER () Fri Sep 02 1994 15:59

   We are a very Microsoft oriented software development group. In the
past, I have been blown away by the Microsoft telephone support group. You
would call the support number that came with your license for 3 months of
free support. You would enter into a voice driven queue, with messages like
"You are caller number 21 for C++, with an average wait of 42 seconds per
caller. Therefore, estimated time to connect with a support specialist is
14 minutes." It was always faster than promised and the support specialist
always eventually found a patch or workaround within 24 hours for me.

   Well, this seems to have completely changed. Our project has been
virtually halted for two days by a linker fatal error when trying to link
Visual V1.5 C++ objects. Local Microsoft in France just shrugged their
shoulders. I FTPed to Microsoft to grab the support number and policy to see
if it had changed. No changes written there. I've tried to call Microsoft
U.S. support a HUNDRED times since yesterday and it's always busy. I sent
mail to Microsoft and got no response. (I posted on the internet and NOTES,
but not a lot of people are risking V1.5, so I didn't get any response.)

   Before I take the week to escalate this up my management chain, who will
see that it gets escalated up Microsoft's France management chain, then over
to Microsoft U.S. etc., is there a quick route through a DEC Microsoft Portfolio
manager?

   Anyone have tips on how to get support from Microsoft?

   Thinking seriously about returning to Borland....

Cheryl
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3370.2STOWOA::ODIAZOctavio, Dev. Suppt. Svcs - MCS/SPSFri Sep 02 1994 18:5713
    Re:                  <<< Note 3370.0 by BALZAC::62552::BULMER >>>

    Cheryl,

    I am not too familiar  with C++ versions, but you seems to imply that
    1.5 is too new, and what may be happening  is  that  local  Microsoft
    just doens't  know  the  answer.  Yes, Microsoft "free" support lines
    in the US are  just  overloaded,  too  much  business.  But Microsoft
    could offer you a faster  response  time if you're willing to pay for
    it :-)
    
    In the other hand, have you tried our internal support groups?  Maybe
    even calling the Atlanta CSC? (I don't have the number BTW)
3370.3A couple of phone numbersPEACHS::LAMPERTPat Lampert, Graphics Support - CSC/AT, DTN 343-1050Mon Sep 05 1994 15:179
Normally Internal people call 1-800-525-7104 to reach the U.S. CSC. but ofcourse
(800) numbers are only valid withing the U.S.

Customers outside the United States call (404)343-7615. I'm not sure what
an internal person outside the U.S. calls, but it cant hurt to try the
(404) number. 


Pat
3370.4We have the technologyBBRDGE::LOVELLTue Sep 06 1994 11:4518
	Anyone on the DTN can call US 1-800 tollfree numbers.

	Try a DTN call to 223-1800<wait for secondary dialtone> then your
	tollfree number.

	e.g. to call the Digital support desk aforementioned, the dialling
	sequence is ;


		<DTN prefix (7 or 8)>, 2231800, <wait 3 or 4 seconds>, 5257104

	Obviously unnecessary if you are in U.S.A. or Canada

	Also, I am unsure who offers this service and what its capacity is - any 
	queries to your local telecoms manager please, not to me.

/Chris (satisfied customer)
3370.5US 800 numbers from EuropeGVPROD::ILFORD::BOWMANDTN 821-4767Tue Sep 06 1994 14:489
Re: -1

Anybody in Europe on the physical DTN can call US 800#s as described by 
Chris. (7) 223 1800 (second dial tone)

Hopefully the majority of people know what is available in their particular 
site. If not contact your local telecom group, if it remains...

Mike 
3370.6AXEL::FOLEYRebel without a ClueTue Sep 06 1994 15:246

	I didn't think that was still available.. I thought it got 
	pulled a year or so ago.

							mike
3370.7METSYS::THOMPSONTue Sep 06 1994 16:279
At least in Reading you don't even have to do that. 
The DTN intercepts all your externally dialled calls to the US, e.g. if
you dial 9-010-1-nnn-nnn-nnnn that doesn't go over the public network
instead it gets switched onto the DTN. To this system, 800 is just 
another US area code!
Pretty neat stuff!

M
3370.8Try Microsoft forums on Compuserve or America OnlineMICROW::CARRIETue Sep 06 1994 20:3815
I know this will cost some money, but in the past I've had good
luck getting 24hr turnaround on problems by posting questions in
Microsoft forums on Compuserve.  The Microsoft personnel who
monitor the forums generally seem experienced and helpful.  Since
the forums are public you might find somebody has already
experienced your problem and has a circumvention.  Finally, there
might be a patch posted in the library areas.

Most of my experience is with Compuserve.  I find that I can't
keep my PCs at home running without it (which is a sad commentary
on both the local support from stores and the quality shipped by
vendors).  Nearly all the major PC vendors maintain forums on
Compuserve, fewer maintain forums on America Online.

Ian Carrie