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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
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3297.0. "Commodity - utility - services; what does it mean?" by IDEFIX::65296::siren () Wed Aug 03 1994 11:35

Following reply is a memo, which I wrote almost two years ago to my 
colleagues and management in the midst of the discussion of, what we should
look at in our career development to stay or rather become competitive.

I would certainly frase several things differently now, but I still prefer
to post it as it was just leaving a couple of last irrelevant comments away.

After the memo, I proposed some activities for us locally to improve our
understanding of what's happening and what is needed and thus our readiness 
in the changing situation, but I never got support from the local management.

Digital certainly has done some changes to head towards, what I try to
say in the memo. The question is: How far will it go? The model shouldn't
be HP and IBM today, but rather, what they or other strong competitors
should be tomorrow.

A good debate around these issues would be interesting ;-).

--Ritva

Sorry about my lousy English in the memo ;-(.
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3297.1Can't be a new Wang, the world is changingIDEFIX::65296::sirenWed Aug 03 1994 11:46159
                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:     16-Oct-1992 09:35 CET
                                        From:     RITVA SIREN @VBO
                                                  SIREN.RITVA
                                        Dept:     VB ENS
                                        Tel No:   (33)92 95 57 63, DTN
828-5763

TO: See Below

Subject: Commodity products and information utility

        While working from home during my vacation day, I thought of
        writing my totally amateur opinions of where our business is
        going, inspired by Robin's comments.

        Warning! This is long

        COMMODITY PRODUCTS AND UTILITY COMPUTING

	 (For the ones who would like to see IT utility I explain my 
	word selection: IT is not an Utility, it is products, word 
	information in itself covers too many areas and businesses)

        Some of our management messages have stated that HW/SW sales
        in our business is going towards commodity business and computer
        networks towards utility business. What could it mean?


        1.      Commodity HW

        In the commodity side, HW business could probably be compared to
        the consumer electronics and especially TV/Radio manufacturing
        and distribution.
                -Products are designed and produced in the factory
                -Products are sold almost exclusively by distributors
                 with a minimum per unit effort from the manufacturer.
                -Products are serviced by authorized service delivery
                 companies, which may be the same as distributor, but
                 not always. For the cost reasons, service delivery must
                 be close to the customer.
                -Manufacturer delivers some product training, but almost
                 exclusively in train the trainer principle. Public 
		 industrial training organisations offer complementary 
		 training often even for specific brands.
                -Facility cabling is provided by an authorized cabling 
		 company, which sometimes is the utility company but 
		 usually not.
        !!Nobody goes to a $1000 training course to learn how to use the
          home appliances.
        !!Very few can justify to go to a series of PC user training 
	  courses even from businesses. -->Products must be developed to 
	  be self teaching -->Even the ones who could justify the 	  
	  training cost don't need to go.

        Where is our place in this chain in late 90'ies.


        2.      SW commodity

        Plenty of users could justify buying computer software perhaps
        with $1000 but very few with $10 000. I do believe that there
	will be a possibility to buy all required software for an 
	average PC user in the end of this decade with $1000. To me it 
	looks like SW business where developing towards the models of 
	publishing companies.
                -Books (even textbooks) are mostly written by private
                 authors or author groups and payment is received often
                 based on the success of the book. For encyclopedias, a 
		 group of free-lance people is collected together. 	
		 Publisher does not have very much more then the core 
		 business people in their permanent payroll.
                -You go to a bookstore, buy a book. If it's for fun you 
		 don't spend an awful lot of time and energy to 	
		 understand it. If it's for work, you study it, you may 
		 discuss about it with other people and only if you can 
		 justify both the time and money you go to special 
		 classes if learning by yourself proves to be too
                 complicated.
                 SW and SW manuals are already delivered in this way
                 and it will happen even more.
                 -->Commodity SW is not sold with plenty of consultancy
                 -->$10-$50 commodity software buyers do not want to go
                    to a $1000 course per SW package.
                 -->$10-$50 SW buyers do not want to pay $1000 fee/day
		    to get us to install their software
                 -->SW needs to be self teaching --> There is less need
		    to participate into the product training

                -As there is room for teachers, who teach English or 	
		 mathematics or whatever there will probably be 
		 cheap/user teaching of computer usage, not internals.

        What will be the commodity product standards?
                        -for users
                        -for developers

        Where is our place in this chain?


        3.      Utility business

        If we look at the telecom or power supply companies, they still 
	need plenty of special systems to run their service including 	
	lots of special automating technology. This technology is, 
	however, highly standardized and you can plug pieces from 
	different manufacturers together after the initial development 
	phase. Utility companies are usually very  careful of not to 
	select components, which lock them to one manufacturer. They may 
	play games with one vendor in the pilot phase, but after that, 
	major things must be standard. Utility industries keep alive 
	lots of specialized vendors (ABB, Siemens, Philips,
        Alcatel...) but even they have to learn to do things cheaper.
        More interesting to us, utility industries employ quite a lot of
	people, but even they need to learn to be more productive to 
	produce services with prices, which customers can afford and to 
	survive, when competing is allowed.

        What does the utility industry for computing look like? We could
	look models of e.g. communications industries (telecom and 
	broadcasting). Telecom is perhaps closer then broadcasting.
                -Cabling or equivalent owned by one company, which can 
		 be the same company, which runs the telephone switches 
		 or then not
                -Switches owned and operated by a PTT (in future more 
		 and more competing with other PTTs)
                -Major users have their own private networks and/or 
		 PBXs, which are run over the PTT service (minimum 
		 cabling) and always connected to the PTT service. --> 
		 PTT offers different levels of services based on 
		 requirements
                -Small users have their phone sets connected to the same
		 big service as the big customers and can communicate 
		 with them.
                -Even competing utility providers have their networks 
		 connected together. In most countries they are required 
		 to do this by law.
        Service to end users has been so far delivered mostly by the 
	PTT. It looks like gradually service will be more available from 
	authorized service providers.
        PTT services are mostly highly packetized and majority of 
	services is sold by packet price.
        Private PBX owners have paid relatively high prices for their 
	solutions but it must be justified by savings.

        How will computing utility evolve?

        What will it look like?
                -Computer network service?
                -Information store and/or delivery service?
                -Applications (i.e. solutions) service?
                -All above together in customer selected pieces?
	Who are owning and running it?  PTTs? PTT consortiums? Computer
	companies? Others?
	Who will be the utility systems (cf. switches) providers?
	What will be the utility system standards?
	What will be the services packets for the computing utility?
	What will be Digital's role in this, if we stay alive?
3297.2Look around RDGENG::WILLIAMS_AWed Aug 03 1994 13:3941
    A lot of questions in the previous note !
    
    My 2c.
    
    If we accept the realities of a commodity marketplace for product, then
    to succeed, we just need to accept what that means for the
    organisation. Painful as that is.
    
    In the back of my Time-manager (UK - 6 ring binder for diary etc), I
    have a graph that plots the decline in product margin over the last 6
    years (gleaned from reports, Gartner info etc). In the past, H/W type
    vendors preferred product , because the margins were higher than that
    available in services (No-brainer so far..). The lines crossed about 2
    years ago - if you organise yourself right, you can now get a higher
    margin for Consulting/SI/Business Process Mgt etc.
    
    But, if the mindset is all about sales per employee, (as opposed to
    margin, or return on capital per employee), you will never succeed in
    Services which tend to be people intensive.
    
    Digital can succeed doing commodity product, most certainly, but it
    won't need many people.
    
    The people making a stack these days ? EDS, Andersen, CGS, CSC etc etc.
    People intensive too.
    
    EDS and Andersen are probably one (or two) steps ahead of the
    Information Utility game too. They focus on delivering a 'Business
    Process' (eg card processing), that just happens to use tons of IT.
    They are already moving *further* up the value chain. (..heard that
    phrase before.?).
    
    Worth looking at what Unisys did to turn themselves around, and how
    ICL (UK/Japanese firm) did to change itself into a service led IT
    provider - they both started from a similar 'Product' orientation to
    us.
    
    I would re-phrase your title to be: 'The world has *already* changed.
    And it's still doing it !'
    
    AW
3297.31st exampleEEMELI::SIRENFri Nov 11 1994 11:0414
    It begins to be time to give some examples of, what's happening:
    
    Just read from INTERNET_TOOLS conference, that Microsoft is selling
    a CD for Internet server/connections with $109.
    
    In the same line: Some students from a local college here have put up
    the Web service for a local town hall based on the work they have done
    along with their related studies and UNIX freeware. They have also organised
    the end user training. I bet, that their charges are no more than half
    of ours. We can probably still compete with them IF we can deliver
    something more reliable/functional and do it (cost)effectively.
    
    --Ritva