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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

3066.0. "Spin-off Rumor Round-up" by CSOA1::RANKIN () Thu May 12 1994 16:18

    Heard a rumor that a press release occured yesterday in the New England
    area that said we spun or sold off ALL-IN-1 futures or the product to a
    company call Touch Inc.
    
    Any real details on this?
    
    -jr
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3066.1Probably referring to ...HYDRA::BECKPaul BeckThu May 12 1994 16:251
    See 3057.3
3066.2From IOSGIOSG::BILSBOROUGHSWBFSFri May 13 1994 07:456
    
    Well put it this way, I work in the group that writes ALL-IN-1 and we
    haven't heard anything.  I'm pretty sure that even Digital would
    have told us if they'd outsourced ALL-IN-1.
    
    Mike
3066.3well THAT CINCHES it!ICS::BEANAttila the Hun was a LIBERAL!Fri May 13 1994 13:021
    
3066.4Rdb will be sold to our arch-enemyNEWVAX::MURRAYso many notes, so little timeMon May 23 1994 12:351
    
3066.5PASTIS::MONAHANhumanity is a trojan horseMon May 23 1994 12:411
    Rdb is written in Bliss, and we don't sell that any more ;-}
3066.6LGP30::FLEISCHERwithout vision the people perish (DTN 223-8576, MSO2-2/A2, IM&T)Mon May 23 1994 13:0113
re Note 3066.5 by PASTIS::MONAHAN:

>     Rdb is written in Bliss, and we don't sell that any more ;-}
  
        Well, then it would seem like a brilliant stroke to sell it
        to our arch-enemy (whoever that is) -- as long as they have
        to pick up support!

        (Actually, some sort of Rdb-like database for OSF/1 has been
        in development for a long time, so I assume that there is a
        new flavor of Rdb written in a living programming language.)

        Bob
3066.7NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon May 23 1994 13:156
BLISS for OSF exists.  Rdb uses it.

There's also a BLISS for Windows NT.

	Gerald Sacks
	BLISS developer
3066.8 Hippee!!! SUBURB::POWELLMNostalgia isn't what it used to be!Mon May 23 1994 13:201
    
3066.9STAR::ABBASIchess is cool !Mon May 23 1994 13:387
    .7
    
>There's also a BLISS for Windows NT.
    
    OMIGOD !!
    
    \nasser
3066.10Rdb is already on OSFNOVA::SWONGERDBS Software Quality EngineeringMon May 23 1994 17:279
>        (Actually, some sort of Rdb-like database for OSF/1 has been
>        in development for a long time, so I assume that there is a
>        new flavor of Rdb written in a living programming language.)

	Yes, there is an "Rdb-like" database for OSF/1. It's called DEC Rdb
	V6.1 -- the same one that's on OpenVMS. It's currently in field
	test.

	Roy
3066.11LGP30::FLEISCHERwithout vision the people perish (DTN 223-8576, MSO2-2/A2, IM&T)Mon May 23 1994 18:2610
re Note 3066.10 by NOVA::SWONGER:

> 	Yes, there is an "Rdb-like" database for OSF/1. It's called DEC Rdb
> 	V6.1 -- the same one that's on OpenVMS. 
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

        I gotta believe that there are a ton of implementation
        differences.

        Bob
3066.12QUEK::MOYMichael Moy, DEC SQL EngineeringMon May 23 1994 18:549
    re: .11
    
    > I gotta believe that there are a ton of implementation
    > differences.
    
    Actually, the stuff we had to do for OSF we did for VMS too. There's
    still only one code base at this time with varianted code.
    
    michael
3066.13PASTIS::MONAHANhumanity is a trojan horseTue May 24 1994 08:211
    	For more discussion on Bliss see VAXAXP::VMSNOTES note 1663.
3066.14Why sell our best layered software?IJSAPL::OLTHOFOranje goes AmericaWed May 25 1994 08:546
    After some operating system en netwrok related products, Rdb is the
    best selling software product that Digital has (rank 5) and it brings
    much revenue (licences, support, hardware, consulting, projects) to the
    company. Why would we want to sell this?
    
    Henny
3066.15NOVA::FISHERTay-unned, rey-usted, rey-adyWed May 25 1994 12:048
    a cynical reply could be "because it would draw a good price."
    but I wouldn't write a cynical reply...  :-)
    
    Seriously though, the buyer would have an automatic entry to
    a very large number of customers' doors.
    
    ed
    (Rdb engineer)
3066.16One might also predict that...OOTOOL::HIGGSSQL is a camel in disguiseWed May 25 1994 13:437
    The seller would experience an automatic ejection from
    a very large number of customers' doors.

    And I'm not just talking software...

	Bryan
3066.17say it ain't so!POWDML::SMCCONNELLNext year, in Jerusalem!Tue May 31 1994 17:4714
    re: .4
    
    I'm not a techie, but I have been involved in negotiations with the
    "prophetic ones".
    
    It is my (not-so-humble) opinion that no matter how attractive the
    short-term gain of such a sale might be, this would be a devastating
    mistake for us.
    
    Who would make such a decision?  I'd like to share my thoughts if
    he/she/they would be willing to listen....
    
    
    Steve
3066.18...one for every occasion...?KELVIN::KELVIN::BLISSRalph Bliss MLO5-3/E35 dtn:223-4202Fri Jun 10 1994 03:0517
>Note 3066.7                  Spin-off Rumor Round-up                    7 of 17
>NOTIME::SACKS "Gerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085"  6 line  23-MAY-1994 09:15
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>BLISS for OSF exists.  Rdb uses it.

>There's also a BLISS for Windows NT.

>	Gerald Sacks
>	BLISS developer
    
    
    ...hmmm...
    
    Maybe I ought to look into this...!