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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

3018.0. "rumors du jour -- MRO for sale?" by MR4DEC::LBERMAN () Thu Apr 21 1994 18:01

    Has anyone heard the "rumors du jour" concerning the sale(s) of
    various buildings within the MRO (Marlboro) complex?
    
    Rumor #1 has it that MRO4 (and possibly others) is being considered
    by Fidelity, who wants to move their corporate headquarters from
    Boston.
    
    Rumor #2, which came in hot off the press a few minutes ago,
    via Rochester, NY, has it that Kodak Corporation has made an
    offer on MRO1. This info came via a Rochester, NY Kodak employee,
    who called a friend here to see if this info made sense (i.e.,
    was there a Digital site called MRO1...)
    
    Are there any other selling/buying rumors out there?
    
    regards, lynn
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3018.1Heard MOR4 was already sold.USCTR1::JHERNBERGThu Apr 21 1994 18:376
    
    I also have heard that MRO4 was sold.  There are about 600 or so 
    people left in the building.  Being in MRO3, I can say that there
    is some room to spare here but what will they do with the personnel
    if MRO1 goes?
    
3018.2This building is chock full!FUNYET::ANDERSONVideoHardcopySalesSupportGenerationThu Apr 21 1994 18:443
Well, if we sell MRO1, we'll have to move HUMANE again.

Paul
3018.3I heard it was turned downSQRDNC::SCANLONJim Scanlon DIGITAL CONSULTING DTN: 297-3313Thu Apr 21 1994 19:454
I heard today that the Fidelity Investment bid on MRO4 was turned down as being 
to low, I also heard that there is talk of two groups of 500 people each 
interested in moving in

3018.4MILKWY::ED_ECKGeneration X < Group W!Thu Apr 21 1994 20:0010
    
    If we sell MRO1, we'll have to move the SBO Labs again--
    SEMs, chemical processing equipment, environmental test
    lab, etc. I have no idea how much it cost to set them up
    here 6 months ago, but relocation wouldn't come cheap--
    hundred thousand $, maybe?
    
    There's also at least two environmentally controlled rooms
    that would have to be moved or shut down.
    
3018.5MRO1 - Not to strange to other companiesCAPNET::WENTWORTHThu Apr 21 1994 20:016
I am familiar with some computer resource activity in MRO1 that
involves other companies. Basically they outsource their computer
services to Digital. As an example some systems running applications
for xyz company are belonging to and reside in MRO1. Digital employees
manage those systems and we get paid for that service.
Just a possibilty as to how a story may have turned into the rumor in .0
3018.6A1VAX::GUNNI couldn't possibly commentThu Apr 21 1994 20:155
    MR01 and MR02 represent RCA's memorial to the computer industry, bought
    by Digital at fire sale prices in 1974. These two buildings were
    intended to be RCA's computer headquarters. Now twenty years later
    another fire sale from a company going out of (the computer) business
    is in progress.........
3018.7TOOK::MORRISONBob M. LKG1-3/A11 226-7570Thu Apr 21 1994 22:4011
>         <<< Note 3018.4 by MILKWY::ED_ECK "Generation X < Group W!" >>>

    
>    If we sell MRO1, we'll have to move the SBO Labs again--
>    SEMs, chemical processing equipment, environmental test
>    lab, etc. I have no idea how much it cost to set them up
>    here 6 months ago, but relocation wouldn't come cheap--

  It was 13 months ago. Time flies when you're having fun! :-)
  I can't think of any logical reason to sell MR01 and/or MRO2 unless Digital
is planning a MAJOR cutback. MRO4 sounds like it's expendable.
3018.8MRO1's the keeprCARAFE::isdnip.lkg.dec.com::goldsteinResident ISDN WeenieFri Apr 22 1994 04:227
For some seriously important infrastructure planning, we had to find 
out which sites were least likely to go. We were told to hang our hats 
on MRO1... that is ONE building that will remain so long as there is 
a company, or at least that's how plans are being made.  So it 
sounds like an odd rumor to me.

MRO4, on the other hand, is utterly separable.
3018.9MROA::MACKEYFri Apr 22 1994 12:583
    
    MRO1 may be confused with NRO1.   I think Digital was outsourcing
    the printing shop (selling) to Kodak.    
3018.10Marboro Real EstateSTAR::LEACHEFri Apr 22 1994 13:355
    Doesn't the enormous inventory of vacant/under-utilized office
    buildings in Marlboro still exist?  (Rt20 East/West, Donald Lynch Blvd,
    Locke Drive, etc) - It's hard to imagine anyone thinking of buying or
    selling a piece of the MR campus when cheap(?) rentals are available
    all over town.
3018.11why rent when good buys exist?SLPPRS::SCHAFERMark Schafer, Development AssistanceFri Apr 22 1994 13:496
    I would imagine that the Company will entertain proposals on ANY real
    estate that someone might be interested in.  All of the MRO buildings
    are well located and attractive looking.  Can't say that about the
    Mill.
    
    Mark
3018.12WWDST1::MGILBERTEducation Reform starts at home....Fri Apr 22 1994 13:5819
RE: office inventory.

I suspect this depends on what your criteria is 
for space. It appears that many of the management
companies in the MRO area are holding on to their
space and looking to lease/rent it. If one of your
criteria is to own then that limits your market. 

Many companies are sensitive to employee commuting
time and hassles. Many of the MRO area sites aren't
"easy" to get to. MRO4 provides a number of options
and the new exit off 495 that is coming will likely
make a fairly easy commute for companies moving from
Boston (Turnpike to 495). If you've watched the 
emptying and refilling of the 495 corridor closely
you may have noticed that is spreading from the
Turnpike to the north (Westboro/Southboro) and 
South (Hopkinton/Milford).

3018.13SSGV02::GRANTMargo DTN 264-3705Fri Apr 22 1994 17:063
It would be entirely _too_ Digital to be trying to sell MRO4 ... I heard all 
of Corp Communications currently in the Mill would be moving there, except 
for Charles Holleran (VP) and a few who would be at MSO, near Palmer.
3018.14"Do not pass Go"BWICHD::SILLIKERCrocodile sandwich-make it snappyFri Apr 22 1994 17:4625
    Hang on, troops, this is getting a mite silly:
    
    BP is all set to move into MSO2.  Folks being moved out of there to
    accomodate him and entourage.
    
    Pessatory (got memo today) is vacating OGO to take over AKO1.
    
    The businesses located at NRO have been "sold" to two external
    companies, Kodak and Moore Business Forms.  I believe Kodak is going to
    retain NRO (hence the rumour that an *RO is being "sold") and vend out
    to Digital the mailroom and reprographics services.
    
    Have heard NOTHING that would lead me to believe that Digital has any
    firm plans to "sell" any of the MRO buildings, wouldn't make any sense,
    at any rate.  Too many cheap rentals, empty office buildings hanging
    around, as is, as one previous reply noted...  plus, MRO is one of the
    core areas owned by Digital wherein those who are having their
    facilities sold or rentals-not-renewed are being moved into!
    
    Of course, she humbly noted, in this lunatic times, anything is
    possible...
    
    FWIW
    
    /m
3018.15IMHOPOKIE::HORNSat Apr 23 1994 00:436
    Gee, sounds like I should get into the moving business!
    
    IMHO, unless a business is one of the 3 or 4 profitable ones these
    days, the business and building are not "safe" and will be gone with
    the wind very soon.  I've never known MRO to have been a profit
    center...
3018.16MILKWY::ED_ECKGeneration X &lt; Group W!Sat Apr 23 1994 03:372
    
    Believe me, not even the profitable businesses are safe. 
3018.17FWIWHANNAH::ALFREDAlfred von Campe, DECterm Eng.Sat Apr 23 1994 15:557
    
    >>I've never known MRO to have been a profit center...

    The Components & Peripherals unit is now in MRO, and it is one of
    the more profitable units.

    Alfred
3018.18Hope to move there someday ...15377::PILGRM::BAHNPossibility of IDICSat Apr 23 1994 19:307
      Can we get somebody to buy TWO so that my cluster will be moved 
      to MRO1?  I'm the systems manager ... and I live about 10 minutes 
      from MRO in Hudson, MA.
                                                          ;^)
      Terry

3018.19MILKWY::ED_ECKGeneration X &lt; Group W!Mon Apr 25 1994 17:226
    
    Actually, the profit center isn't allways where the business is.
    For example, my business is based in MRO, but the profit center
    is in HLO. 
    
     E. (quite profitable, thank you)
3018.20MRO4 sold to Fidelity InvestmentsTOOK::MORRISONBob M. LKG1-3/A11 226-7570Wed Aug 24 1994 19:5614
)0 Worldwide News                    LIVE WIRE

 Fidelity signs letter of intent on ...     Date: 24-Aug-1994
Page   1 of 1  
            Fidelity signs letter of intent on Marlborough property 
   
         Fidelity Investments of Boston has signed a letter of intent to 
   purchase Digital's MRO4 facility in Marlborough, Mass. 
         Negotiations for a purchase and sales agreement are under way.   
         Fidelity Investments is the U.S.' largest mutual fund company 
   and the second largest discount brokerage company.  In addition to
   mutual funds and discount brokerage, Fidelity is the nation's largest 
   provider of 401(k) plans to corporations and one of the top five 
   providers of retirement plans to non-profit institutions.
3018.21TOOK::MORRISONBob M. LKG1-3/A11 226-7570Wed Aug 24 1994 19:584
  Re -.1: Just a few months ago, Putnam Investments of Boston purchased the
former Digital plant in Franklin. It's lucky for us that Boston's investment
companies are expanding. But it says something about how businesses feel about
locating in downtown Boston.
3018.22NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Wed Aug 24 1994 20:004
re .21:

Office space in downtown Boston is expensive.  Office space in places like
Marlborough and Franklin is cheap.
3018.23Not purchasedUSCTR1::SCHILTONMRO3-1/E9, DTN 297-7558Fri Aug 26 1994 16:064
    
    re .21
    
    I think you'll find Putnam leased Franklin.
3018.24TOOK::MORRISONBob M. LKG1-3/A11 226-7570Thu Sep 08 1994 21:448
> Office space in downtown Boston is expensive.  Office space in places like
> Marlborough and Franklin is cheap.

  True. But one reason why space on I-495 is because of all the high-tech
companies that are cutting back.
  What I thought was interesting is that this space is being filled by busi-
nesses from downtown Boston and not by businesses from Route 128 or from
other regions.
3018.25Leapfrog, sort ofVMSSPT::LYCEUM::CURTISDick &quot;Aristotle&quot; CurtisMon Sep 12 1994 17:137
    .24:
    
    Perhaps the incremental savings are bigger?  It may not be worth it to
    move to save (say) $5/sq.ft, but might be to cut costs by (say)
    $15/sq.ft.
    
    Dick
3018.26MRO3 (not a rumor)LGP30::FLEISCHERwithout vision the people perish (DTN 297-5780, MRO3-3/L16)Fri Nov 04 1994 16:174
        We MRO3 tenants have been informed that the building has been
        sold to Fidelity and we will be vacating by next April.

        Bob
3018.27one, both, which?SMAUG::LOVEJOYFri Nov 04 1994 18:574
    
    MR03, I thought MRO4 was being sold to fidelity.  
    
    
3018.28bothNRSTA1::HORGANTim HorganFri Nov 04 1994 19:2311
    re: .-1
    
    > MR03, I thought MRO4 was being sold to fidelity.
    
    Apparently they were both sold to Fidelity. We've been told we'll be
    out of MRO3 by April.
    
    On the road again. Wonder what the hidden cost is of all this moving
    and getting set up again?
    
    th
3018.29the vogons are at it againLGP30::FLEISCHERwithout vision the people perish (DTN 297-5780, MRO3-3/L16)Sat Nov 05 1994 10:114
        Note that MRO3 was the destination for hundreds of people
        moving *IN* during the past three months!

        Bob
3018.30Doesn't mean a thing.15377::PILGRM::BAHNCuriouser and Curiouser ...Sat Nov 05 1994 17:1317
    >>> Note that MRO3 was the destination for hundreds of people
    >>> moving *IN* during the past three months!

        On June 12th, 1992, we moved from CTS to LTN1 because CTS had 
        been sold to SUN.  On November 13th, 1992 ... 148 days later, 
        we moved to TWOA because the company decided to drop the 
        lease on LTN1.

        When we moved to TWO, Building C was being emptied and was to 
        be moth-balled.  About a year ago, groups started moving into 
        Building C.  It's packed to capacity now ... but, Building A 
        is almost empty ... about 60 - 75 people rattling around in a
        room with roughly 300 cubes. 

    Terry

3018.31Could be some kind of low record these days...WAYLAY::GORDONto indicate the passage of time!Mon Nov 07 1994 16:555
	I started my Digital career in TWO building C, back before it had any
windows.  We later moved "across the parking lot" into the larger building.
I spent some time in ZKO1 and now I'm in MKO2.  A mere 4 buildings in 8+ years.

							--Doug
3018.32"...on the road again..."ROMEOS::TREBILCOT_ELFri Nov 11 1994 16:154
    what, don't you guys like musical chairs?
    
    ;^)
    
3018.33MRO closed completely?ASIC::MYERSWed Mar 01 1995 13:398
    Ok, another rumor for the fire.  I just heard that Fidelity has closed
    on an agreement with Digital to purchase MRO1 and MRO2 and are now
    working on the terms and agreements.
    
    Supposedly, MRO1/2 occupants will be moved to empty spaces in Littleton
    and The Wang Towers (????!!!).
    
    Anyone hear anything to this effect?
3018.34I still have unopened boxes from two moves ago!TEKVAX::KOPECwe're gonna need another Timmy!Wed Mar 01 1995 13:465
    That would figure; my group was moved from NRO to MLO shortly after it
    was announced that the mill would close.. we moved to MRO1 this past
    november..
    
    ...tom
3018.35USCTR1::GHIGGINSOh Whoa Is MoeWed Mar 01 1995 14:142
    Also heard the rumor about MR01 & 2. But not to Fidelity. AT&T.
    
3018.36MROA::SRINIVASANWed Mar 01 1995 14:3111
      re .33 
        > I just heard that Fidelity has closed on an agreement with 
        > Digital to purchase MRO1 and MRO2 and are now working on the terms 
        > and agreements.Supposedly, MRO1/2 occupants will be moved to 
        > empty spaces in Littleton and The Wang Towers (????!!!).
    
       I doubt this is true. Only last week I saw major construction
       begining for new spacious offices in MRO1 ( Supposedly for Harry 
       Copperman).If we are selling MRO1, why would we spend all that money 
       and build nee offices ?!?!?!?re
                     
3018.37AXEL::FOLEYRebel without a ClueWed Mar 01 1995 14:399
RE: .36

	Ah, but you see, that comes out of the different budget. That's
	money that was allocated and HAS to be spent, regardless of
	who will own the building in 6 months.

						mike

	(You don't really think I know what I'm talking about, do you?)
3018.38Need officesCFSCTC::PATILAvinash Patil dtn:227-3280Wed Mar 01 1995 15:299
re .36,.37

Also the sale (if any) and transfer of the buildings can take 6 months or more.
Harry Copperman and staff meanwhile needs offices. They are not going to move to
currently available partition offices in MRO and not going to use currently
available furniture there.

Avinash
3018.39CAPNET::PJOHNSONaut disce, aut discedeWed Mar 01 1995 15:466
I hear that Fidelity has purchased MRO3 and 4, and people are being
moved out of MRO1 to make way for Vincenzo et al.

FWIW,

Pete
3018.40MROA::SRINIVASANWed Mar 01 1995 17:2921
    Re. 37
    
            > Ah, but you see, that comes out of the different
            > budget.That's money that was allocated and HAS to be spent, 
    	    > regardless of who will own the building in 6 months.
    
    
            Now I get it... If they don't spend it, the budget will go away
            ( like government projects !).
    
            Re .38
    
            > They are not going to move to currently available partition
            > offices in MRO and not going to use currently available furniture
            > there.
            
            Why not ! What is wrong with the currently available private
    	    offices and furnitures ? I bet this project costs few hundred
            thousand dollars, which otherwise will go to the bottom line as
            a profit in Q3 or whatever.
                                       
3018.41ATLANT::SCHMIDTE&amp;RT -- Embedded and RealTime EngineeringWed Mar 01 1995 18:0014
Avinash:

> Also the sale (if any) and transfer of the buildings can take 6 months
> or more. Harry Copperman and staff meanwhile needs offices. They are
> not going to move to currently available partition offices in MRO and
> not going to use currently available furniture there.

  Do you actually *KNOW* this ior is it speculation? If you *KNOW*
  this, then I'd have to wonder if Harry has maybe not heard of the
  H.O.M.E. program. He could always come in to the office when it's
  time to produce another one of those glitzy DVNs telling us all
  how wonderful things are.

                                   Atlant
3018.42FUNYET::ANDERSONThis winter sucksWed Mar 01 1995 19:028
3018.43Rumour........Trumour..!!PAKORA::KANDERSONA wan OotThu Mar 02 1995 04:4217
      re .36 
          
       >I doubt this is true. Only last week I saw major construction
       >begining for new spacious offices in MRO1 ( Supposedly for Harry 
       >Copperman).If we are selling MRO1, why would we spend all that money 
       >and build nee offices ?!?!?!?re
            
       well we @SQF thought that the rumours that went around for 6 months
       of being bought over by Motorola were not true...but they were,
       and as for contruction work going on and spending all that money
       wouldn't make me doubt it wasn't for sale probably part of the plan.
    
    
       Me thinks...
    
       Katrina          
    
3018.44MAIL2::CRANEThu Mar 02 1995 11:542
    I wouldn`t be surprised if we merged with Motorola after the fiscal
    year ends. You can say you heard it here first.
3018.45DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVIDWe now return you to the terror of contemporary employmentThu Mar 02 1995 13:544
No longer a rumor ASO has been sold to SCI along with Digitals' entire contract
manufacturing business.

dave 
3018.46What next?...POBOX::CORSONHigher, and a bit more to the rightThu Mar 02 1995 14:191
    
3018.47AKOCOA::OUELLETTEThu Mar 02 1995 14:446
    
    
    	rep.   -< What next?... >-
    
    
    		Kanata plant...?
3018.48re (-1)DNEAST::OCONNOR_KEVIThu Mar 02 1995 15:3410
    
    Only if they are lucky. 
    Digital appears to be getting out of the manufacturing business; Chips,
    modules and anything else. The SCI deal comes with some percentage of
    network's load. The pc business already outsources some of its modules
    to SCI and I see no reason that the trend won't continue.
     As digital divests itself of these "non-core" activities it is far 
    better to be sold than to be closed.
    
                                                      
3018.49speculation based on prior eventsCFSCTC::PATILAvinash Patil dtn:227-3280Thu Mar 02 1995 15:5110
re .41

>Avinash:

>  Do you actually *KNOW* this ior is it speculation? If you *KNOW*

I am speculating based on my previous experience of facility moves. For example
when GIA (now known as APA or AP?) moved out of AKO1 and executives of new
organization/group moved in there, they reaped out all exisiting executive 
offices and built new ones.
3018.50MRO5 & MRO6?ASABET::SILVERBERGMy Other O/S is UNIXFri Mar 03 1995 08:5110
    Well, I receive a publication from the MEPA office monthly that 
    publicizes the various MEPA and ENF (Environmental Notification
    Form) notices, actions, etc.  In a recent issue, it identifies
    Digital as cancelling its submission for MRO3 & MR04, but leaves
    standing Digital's filing for MRO5 and MRO6.  I wonder if these
    were just early filings to get somethign on the books in case
    they ever wanted to be built.
    
    Mark
    
3018.51MRO - a look at the pastMPGS::WENTWORTHFri Mar 03 1995 10:1910
    a number of years ago I worked in the MRO facility engineering org.
    I participated in the design of MRO4. At that time the Engineering
    firm we used had also done several conceptual plans for the future
    construction of MRO5 and 6. Those were to be built down by the 
    softball fields if your familiar with the turf. Additionally we
    also had plans (which are still somewhat active by the state) to
    construct a rte495 interchange that would have run between MRO3 & 4.
    
    In any event I would imagine all those issues are off Digital's back
    since selling all that property to Fidelity. 
3018.52HANNAH::KOVNEREverything you know is wrong!Fri Mar 03 1995 16:584
A couple of weeks ago, we took a walk down to (the former) MRO4, and had a talk
with someone from Fidelity. He said that they hadn't bought MRO1 and 2, and that
Digital would be paying rent on MRO3 until we were out. This wasn't an official
statement from an officer of Fidelity, however.
3018.53AWECIM::MCMAHONLiving in the owe-zoneFri Mar 03 1995 19:051
    How many people currently work at ASO?
3018.54re;-1DNEAST::OCONNOR_KEVIFri Mar 03 1995 19:143
    
      About 1100 counting contract people. I don't know the exact split between 
    contract and regular but it is aprox. 750 regular and 350 contract. 
3018.55PCBUOA::KRATZFri Mar 03 1995 19:354
    SCI has a reputation of being an uncaring sweatshop in Huntsville,
    at least according to relatives who live there.
    
    On the other hand, SCI ownership of Augusta could be a step up.  kb
3018.56Press release from Livewire - ASO to SCIDNEAST::CROCKETT_PAULet it Roll...Fri Mar 03 1995 20:4042
    RE: Sale of ASO to SCI Systems
    Here's the official press release taken from Livewire
    
    
                Digital, SCI Systems sign agreement for sale of 
                  Digital's contract manufacturing business 
                        and Maine manufacturing plant 
   
         Digital and SCI Systems, Inc. of Huntsville, Ala. today announced 
   thay they have signed an agreement to transfer ownership of Digital's 
   contract manufacturing business with its international accounts and its 
   Augusta, Maine manufacturing plant to SCI. 
         The Augusta facility, which consists of a building in excess of 
   300,000 square feet on nearly 200 acres of land, employs approximately 
   700 regular workers plus temporary workers in contract manufacturing 
   for Digital and outside customers.  
         Under the terms of the agreement, Digital's Augusta employees 
   will become SCI employees upon the transaction's closing in the spring 
   of 1995.  In addition, SCI will enter into a multiyear agreement to 
   supply Digital with the networking electronic assemblies that are 
   currently produced at the Augusta plant.
         Charles F. Christ, vice president and general manager of 
   Digital's Components Division, said, "This sale of the Augusta plant 
   supports Digital's strategy of investing in our core competencies and 
   deriving the maximum value and use from our facilities and investments. 
         "This agreement is also a tribute to the hard work of the 
   employees in the Augusta plant," continued Christ.  "They have very 
   successfully built a contract manufacturing operation that is 
   attractive to a company like SCI, which is one of the world's premier 
   electronic contract manufacturers."
         "SCI Systems is actively involved in expanding our manufacturing 
   capacity through acquisitions and construction of new plants," said 
   Olin King, SCI's chairman and chief executive officer.  "Digital's 
   Augusta plant offers us the combination of an excellent facility, a 
   knowledgeable and highly skilled workforce and a multiyear supply 
   contract.  It will give us added resources to better serve our growing 
   customer base."    
         SCI Systems, Inc. is a diversified multinational electronics 
   manufacturer whose products and systems are supplied to a variety of 
   aerospace, commercial and industrial customers.

                       FOR DIGITAL INTERNAL USE ONLY
3018.57?WELCLU::62967::sharkeyaLOGINN - Defense industry's best kept secretFri Mar 03 1995 20:424
Who (what) is SCI ?

Alan

3018.58DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVIDWe now return you to the terror of contemporary employmentFri Mar 03 1995 22:4412
    SCI is a fairly large contract manufacturing operation based out of
    Huntsville, Alabama. They're reputed to operate on very lean margins so
    concerns at the plant are along the line of how many of us will
    eventually be gone?
    
    SCI currently operates 19 plants with something like 100 SMT lines. One
    plant is located in Hookset, NH. Currently I believe they hold a
    contract with Digital to build PC motherboards in Hookset and
    Huntsville.
    
    dave
    
3018.59SCI have a plant at Irvine, ScotlandAYRDAM::DAGLEISHPGood morning world, have a great day!!Sun Mar 05 1995 08:2710
SCI have a board manufacturing plant a few miles up the road at Irvine.

Had a large contract for Commodore Amiga 32's a few years back and does,
as the previous noter mentioned, work on very tight margins for a lot of
Scotland's Silicon Glen major companies.

Very much a hire and fire type of penny paying company.

Our new PC plant is just round the corner and is aspiring to the Irvine 
standard.
3018.60DELNI::WHEELERChickens have no bumsFri Mar 10 1995 18:214
	In last nights paper it showed MR03/MR04 sold on 12/17/94 for
	$17,000,000 in the real estate transaction section (Hudson Daily
	Sun)
3018.61MRO1 sold to Fidelity ?DCPWR::CROSSThu Apr 27 1995 14:589
    
    Where will things end ?  The rumor I heard yesterday was that MRO1 had
    been sold to Fidelity, and we had taken a 2-3 year lease-back.
    
    I haven't hear this confirmed and doubt its truthfulness, but I thought
    others might have opinions or (heaven forbid !) facts to add.
    
    /John
    
3018.62hey, why not?HDLITE::SCHAFERMark Schafer, Alpha Developer's supportThu Apr 27 1995 15:177
    I work in MRO1.  Trust me, Fidelity probably doesn't want it!  :-)  
    But if they did, I'm sure that Digital would work with them on a deal. 
    In my opinion, we still have too much real estate and cannot be choosy
    about what parcels to keep.  Can you imagine a used car salesman
    telling a customer, "No, that one's not for sale."
    
    Mark
3018.63REGENT::POWERSFri Apr 28 1995 12:4014
>                      <<< Note 3018.61 by DCPWR::CROSS >>>
>                          -< MRO1 sold to Fidelity ? >-
>
>    Where will things end ?  The rumor I heard yesterday was that MRO1 had
>    been sold to Fidelity, and we had taken a 2-3 year lease-back.

Real property ownership is a matter of public record.
If the MRO property changes hands, it will be newsworthy and reported 
as such in public forums.

This is not to say that a deal to sell the rest of the MRO facility couldn't 
be in the works or even completed, but it can't have been consumated in secret.

- tom]
3018.64ASO/SCI on the Internet?MILORD::BISHOPTake hold of the life that is truly lifeMon Jul 17 1995 12:4513
> <<< Note 3018.45 by DNEAST::BOTTOM_DAVID "We now return you to the terror of contemporary employment" >>>
>
> No longer a rumor ASO has been sold to SCI along with Digitals' entire contract
> manufacturing business.
> 
> dave 

    Can anyone tell me the correct Internet incantation to contact someone
    at ASO?  I lost touch with someone there when SCI bought them out.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Richard.
3018.65This is what former ASO folks have been giving meTOOK::ALBRIGHTBorn to DECserverMon Jul 17 1995 13:003
    firstname.lastname@scismail.sci.com 
    
    
3018.66thank youMILORD::BISHOPTake hold of the life that is truly lifeMon Jul 17 1995 13:193
    thanks very much, I'll give it a try.....
    
    - Richard.
3018.67Heliograph to Augusta might be faster...STSDEV::GRAYBruce Gray, Manufacturing SW EngMon Jul 17 1995 15:2115
    In Re: Last 2

    Don't hold your breath waiting for a reply.  As far as I know, E-Mail
    to SCI goes to Huntsville, AL.  People in Augusta who have accounts must
    dial up the system in Huntsville to get their mail.  Many don't bother
    unless you call them on the phone and ask them to read their mail.

    I've been to Augusta a few times since the plant was sold.  The culture
    shock is quite extensive.  There are signs of severe withdrawal symtoms
    as they have been largely cut off from the outside world.

    They do still have FAX and that has been the best way I've found to get
    messages to people. The main FAX number is (207) 623-6665.

    Bruce
3018.68Ancient historyTOOK::MORRISONBob M. LKG1-3/A11 226-7570Thu Jul 20 1995 20:518
>    Don't hold your breath waiting for a reply.  As far as I know, E-Mail
>    to SCI goes to Huntsville, AL.  People in Augusta who have accounts must
>    dial up the system in Huntsville to get their mail.  Many don't bother
>    unless you call them on the phone and ask them to read their mail.

  Why didn't we insist on a direct Internet link between Digital and Augusta as
a condition of them doing mfg for us? This so-called email link is something I
would expect in the Computer Museum, not in 1995.
3018.69Rumors againFUNYET::ANDERSONHey, where's all the snow?Wed Jan 24 1996 13:536
The latest rumor is that Fidelity has bought MRO2 and perhaps MRO1, with
occupancy in June.  I've heard this from a number of people since yesterday.

I've heard nothing official.

Paul
3018.70anything's possibleHDLITE::SCHAFERMark Schafer, Alpha Developer's supportWed Jan 24 1996 14:264
    well, the new parking garage ought to be finished before then, so maybe
    they can put us up in it!  :-)
    
    Mark
3018.71Only MRO2...for now.MROA::HEIER_LWed Jan 24 1996 15:374
    I heard only that MRO2 might be leased with us being out of the
    building by Summertime.
    
    Larry
3018.72MKOTS3::WTHOMASWed Jan 24 1996 16:304
    My $.02:
    
    Could be a "sale & lease back" (of MRO1).
    
3018.73MRO2 lease?FUNYET::ANDERSONHey, where's all the snow?Wed Jan 24 1996 16:544
I talked with someone in the cafeteria today who said he "saw a memo" stating
that Fidelity is going to lease MRO2.

Paul
3018.74REGENT::POWERSThu Jan 25 1996 11:444
But it was just yesterday that I first saw that there is a "new logo"
digital sign at the MRO campus, replacing the big one that faces 495.
New smaller ones at the driveways were installed earlier in the week.
Tasteful gray and burgundy....
3018.75we aren't moving to MRO2..TEKVAX::KOPECwe're gonna need another Timmy!Mon Jan 29 1996 18:2511
    all I "know" is that my group was slated to move from MRO1 to MRO2;
    last week I asked my boss when that move was gonna happen (to try and
    schedule deliverables around it) and I was told "we don't own the
    building anymore, so I guess the move is off."
    
    This should not be taken as gospel, but probably does indicate that
    there is a change in the status of MRO2 of some sort..
    
    ymmv..
    
    ...tom
3018.76HELIX::WELLCOMESteve Wellcome MRO1-1/L31 Pole HJ33Mon Jan 29 1996 18:5910
    The latest I've heard, which may not be correct of course, 
    is that we're trying to LEASE MRO2 to somebody (we haven't 
    sold it), contingent on finding places to put all the people 
    who are currently in MRO2.  Since some of the people in MRO2
    are part of groups in MRO1, and everybody from MRO2 won't fit
    in MRO1, and they dont' want to separate the MRO2 part of an 
    MRO1 group from the MRO1 part, some of the people from MRO1 
    may get dragged into the musical offices game too.  And so
    on, and so on, and so on....
    
3018.77FUNYET::ANDERSONWhere's the nearest White Castle?Mon Jan 29 1996 19:384
What *I* heard was that Fidelity has bought MRO2 and will occupy the building by
July 1.  I hope someone tells us before the day the orange crates show up.

Paul
3018.78More moving into the H.O.M.E. Program?ASABET::MCCALLIONTue Jan 30 1996 17:559
    I doubt we sold MR2 since all the utilities are one unit.  The cost to
    dismantle would be much more than when the cut between MR3 and the
    MR2/1 was made.  Leasing is the best bet unless of course, MR1 is up
    for grabs.  
    
    Is it possible for the mfg group presently on MR1-3 to move into the
    HLO bldgs? That would free up quite a bit of space.  After all it, was
    the stockroom and dock area for the PDP10/20 line and the Header area
    for the Venus 8600 about 10yrs ago. 
3018.79ATLANT::SCHMIDTSee http://atlant2.zko.dec.com/Tue Jan 30 1996 18:547
> Is it possible for the mfg group presently on MR1-3 to move
> into the HLO bldgs?

  What MFG group on MR1-3? [At least some of] That group vanished
  mysteriously a few months ago.

                                   Atlant
3018.80Overflow parking on the South 40ALFA2::ALFA2::HARRISWed Jan 31 1996 16:583
    HLO1-2-3, in my opinion, are jammed to the gills.
    
    M
3018.81MRO1 alsoUSOPS::CASEYMon Mar 18 1996 15:385
    
    I heard that MRO2 has been sold to Fidelity and MRO1 is being
    negotiated with them.  Just a matter of time before MRO1 is also
    sold.
    
3018.82BUSY::SLABOUNTYDon't like my p_n? 1-800-328-7448Mon Mar 18 1996 15:517
    
    	So why are they moving all these people into MRO1 just so they
    	can sell it?
    
    	Not that I'd be surprised, so I guess this is a rhetorical
    	question.
    
3018.83NPSS::GLASERSteve Glaser DTN 2267212 LKG1-2/E10 (G17)Mon Mar 18 1996 16:415
    Figures -- back when the Mill was closed, the Telecom group asked for
    one site that would be least likely to be sold so they could put
    relocate the stuff from MLO somewhere "safe".
    
    They were told MRO1.  I guess that means it's on the block for sure :-)
3018.84Marlboro needs the business #;-)MR2SRV::guinep.mro.dec.com::wwillisMCS Rapid Prototyping &amp; Offer CreationMon Mar 18 1996 18:429
re: .82 

....for the same reason "they" moved people into MRO3,2, and 1 after MRO4 
was closed.... and for the same reason they moved people to MRO2 and 1 
after MRO3 was closed: to beef up the relocation and shipping business in 
Marlboro.

	C'Ya,
	Wayne
3018.85look out, shrewsbury..TEKVAX::KOPECwe're gonna need another Timmy!Tue Mar 19 1996 10:0816
    My group seems to be a pretty good predictor of Digital's real-estate
    transactions:
    
     My group moved to NRO5; NRO5 was closed.
    
     My group moved from NRO5 to the mill; we actually moved in 
     *after* it was announced that the mill was sold.
    
     My group moved from MLO5 to MRO1 (no action here *yet*, but..)
    
     My group was told it was moving to MRO2; MRO2 is announced to
     be closing.
    
     My group was told it was moving to SHR. Stay tuned.
    
    ...tom
3018.86Several items come to mind, like why they sold to usVMSSPT::LYCEUM::CURTISChristos voskrese!Mon Apr 29 1996 21:444
    Gee, that's scary, considering the history of the previous tenants of
    MR1/2...
    
    Dick
3018.87RCA?RICKS::PHIPPSDTN 225.4959Tue Apr 30 1996 11:316
>   Gee, that's scary, considering the history of the previous tenants of
>   MR1/2...

  You mean RCA's Computer Division?  Spectra 70 series I believe.

  	mikeP
3018.88UCXAXP::64034::GRADYSquash that bug! (tm)Tue Apr 30 1996 19:275
>You mean RCA's Computer Division?  Spectra 70 series I believe.

True, but they were different from us.  They actually decided to
go out of this business of their own free will...;-)

3018.89The wise man learns from another's mistakesVMSSPT::LYCEUM::CURTISChristos voskrese!Wed May 01 1996 14:2813
    Heh heh.  No flies on y'all.
    
    Yeah, RCA was the company I had in mind.  (Come to think of it, I was
    using a Spectra 70 occasionally shortly before that, and for some time 
    after -- but after '72 or '73 the sw support was provided by Sperry.)
    
    Tim has a point in .88... although sometimes I read press releases and
    wonder...
    
    But the "bottom line" I had in mind in my comment was this:
    	Check out the recent corporate performance of RCA.
    
    Dick
3018.90trick question?LGP30::FLEISCHERwithout vision the people perish (DTN 227-3978, TAY1)Wed May 01 1996 14:3211
re Note 3018.89 by VMSSPT::LYCEUM::CURTIS:

>     But the "bottom line" I had in mind in my comment was this:
>     	Check out the recent corporate performance of RCA.
  
        RCA has not existed as a separate entity for a good number of
        years (my wild guess would be about 10).  GE bought them and
        divested many parts.  The trademark now belongs to others,
        and is still in use.

        Bob
3018.91Got it in one!VMSSPT::LYCEUM::CURTISChristos voskrese!Wed May 01 1996 14:375
    In other words, they were bought up by a company which intended to
    disassemble their hapless purchase and "part it out".  I suppose it
    beats Chapter 7 -- barely.
    
    Dick
3018.92sounds almost familiarLGP30::FLEISCHERwithout vision the people perish (DTN 227-3978, TAY1)Wed May 01 1996 14:4110
re Note 3018.91 by VMSSPT::LYCEUM::CURTIS:

>     In other words, they were bought up by a company which intended to
>     disassemble their hapless purchase and "part it out".  I suppose it
>     beats Chapter 7 -- barely.
  
        But is that so different from new management coming in and
        doing what felt and still feels like the same disassembly?

        Bob
3018.93UCXAXP::64034::GRADYSquash that bug! (tm)Wed May 01 1996 19:0411
As I recall, RCA announced it would go out of the computer
business in late 1971.  It closed the doors in Palm Beach
Gardens, which was the primary Spectra 70 manufacturing plant,
in 1976 or so.  GE bought RCA something like 10 or 15 years
later.  The two events were not related...and GE still owns NBC,
which was a division of RCA, so not all of it was sold off... 
GE is notorious for canabalizing its acquisitions like that.  I
think Thompson owns the RCA consumer trademark.  Not sure who
bought Banquet Foods (another division), or Avis...?

tim
3018.94RCA was probably not a chapter 7 candidate.NPSS::BENZI'm an idiot, and I voteThu May 02 1996 03:578
    I was at GE when the purchase of RCA happened.  I do not remember that
    RCA was perceived to be in trouble - they were running at about 10M in
    revenue per year, I think, and I think their profits were respectable.
    
    (From the perspective of GE's folks in semiconductors, it felt much
    more like RCA had bought us).
    
    \chuck
3018.95MRO2 Closing noticeUSOPS::DFITCHDigital=DEC ReClaim TheName!Sat Jun 08 1996 15:4951
From:	MRMTS::MRMTS::MRGATE::"SALES::A1::SITE"  7-JUN-1996 09:09:08.19
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Subj:	MRO2 CLOSING - EMPLOYEE ACCESS TO LIMITED AREAS                        1

From:	NAME: Site Services                  <SITE@A1@SALES@AKO>
To:     See Below

    From  GARY G. NELSON, @MRO, DTN 297-6732

          *****************************************************
          *           THIS MEMO TO EMPLOYEES OF MRO           *
          *           REGARDING THE CLOSING OF MRO2           *
          * IS FROM GREATER MARLBORO AREA PROPERTY MANAGEMENT *
          *****************************************************
                                    
As part of Digital's facility consolidation efforts, the MRO2 building 
will be vacated by the end of June.  All employees will be relocated, the 
majority to MRO1.  There will be a few functions that will remain in the 
building, primarily in the lower (LA) level of the building, until 
suitable space and a cost effective solution is identified within the 
MRO1 facility.  

Two of those functions which impact the greatest number of site employees 
include the Exercise/ Aerobics Rooms, and the Interactive DVN ("One 
Touch") setup.  Access to these areas will remain available after June 
ONLY VIA THE GLASS CONNECTOR FROM MRO1.  Employees with NCS card access 
to the Exercise Room and are currently enrolled in an aerobics program 
will have card access through the glass connector entry doors. 
Interactive DVN access will be coordinated along with the scheduled "One 
Touch" programs.  There will be no other accessible entrances to MRO2.  
Elevators and stairs, leading to the LA level, will be available.  ALL 
OTHER AREAS OF THE BUILDING WILL BE OFF-LIMITS.

Property Management appreciates your cooperation with the above.  We will 
continue to communicate any changes.  If you have any further MRO2 access 
concerns contact Steve Baker, Security Manager at 7-2600.

Thank you.

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3018.96MRO1 & 2 not sold, "Reminder Memo - Closing of MRO2 "USOPS::DFITCHDigital=DEC ReClaim TheName!Tue Jul 02 1996 11:1651
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Subj:	Reminder Memo - Closing of MRO2                                        1

From:	NAME: Site Services                  <SITE@A1@SALES@AKO>
To:     See Below

	  *****************************************************
          *      THIS REMINDER MEMO TO EMPLOYEES OF MRO       *
          *           REGARDING THE CLOSING OF MRO2           *
          * IS FROM GREATER MARLBORO AREA PROPERTY MANAGEMENT *
          *****************************************************
                                    
As part of Digital's facility consolidation efforts, the MRO2 building's 
employees have been vacated.  Only a few functions remain in the 
building, primarily in the lower (LA) level, until suitable space and 
cost effective solutions are identified within the MRO1 facility.  

Remaining in MRO2 are the Exercise/Aerobics Rooms, and the Interactive 
DVN ("One Touch") setup.  Access to these areas is available ONLY VIA THE 
GLASS CONNECTOR FROM MRO1.  Employees with NCS card access to the 
Exercise Room and are currently enrolled in an aerobics program will have 
card access through the glass connector entry doors (as of 6/28 MRO 
Security has not received the latest enrollment list from the Hudson 
Youth Center).  Interactive DVN access will be coordinated along with the 
scheduled "One Touch" programs.  Other site employees with the need to 
access MRO2 will have NCS authorization.  There will be no other 
accessible entrances to MRO2.  Elevators and stairs will be available 
leading to the LA level.  ALL OTHER AREAS OF THE BUILDING WILL BE 
RESTRICTED TO AUTHORIZED PERSONNEL ONLY.

If you have any MRO2 access concerns contact Security at 7-6161.  

Neither MRO2 or MRO1, as has been rumored, have been sold.  Digital is 
actively looking at sub-leasing portions of MRO2.  We will continue to 
communicate any news regarding the above.

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