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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

2825.0. "Flexware, Duraware, and women's underwear" by STAR::DIPIRRO () Thu Dec 23 1993 12:08

    	I received a copy of a memo through electronic mail (which I don't
    have permission to post) about the "official Digital Corporate Naming
    Scheme" which was reviewed and theoretically approved by the executive
    committee on December 15th. I haven't seen mention of it here (maybe I
    missed it), but I've seen references to it elsewhere.
    	As part of the branding campaign, a bunch of names were being
    trademark searched. The proposal, which may even be a joke as far as I
    can tell, suggests using "flex" in ALL Digital product names. If "flex"
    doesn't pass the trademark search, then "dura" will be used in its
    place. I guess that if "dura" fails as well, then "women's under" will
    be next.
    	The naming goes something like this. All systems and hardware will
    have "Digital flexsystems" in the name. For networking stuff, it's
    "Digital flexconnect"...For software, it's "Digital flexware" and for
    services, it's "Digital flexteam." So picking a software product at
    random, the name might look something like "Digital flexware FORTRAN
    for OpenVMS AXP."
    	Does anyone know if this is for real? Personally, I have a better
    idea. Marketing should purchase 89,000 (or however many employees are
    left this month) "Kick Me!" signs for all of us to wear while we're out
    in public. We'll also need dark sunglasses or paper bags to wear over
    our heads at trade shows.
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2825.1Seems we're making bad situation worseAKOCOA::BBARRYDon't breathe balloon airThu Dec 23 1993 12:3610
From 1-December VideoTex Worldwide News
...
         Andrew Allison of "RISC Management Newsletter" believes Digital's 
   processors, workstations and servers are second to none, and are going 
   to be "hard to catch."  Allison finds that message is lost: "Digital 
   buried that good news in a blizzard of software...software, fuzzy 
   marketing and the fact that the competition no longer even acknowledges 
   the company's existence" remain overriding problems.
...
     
2825.2LABRYS::CONNELLYIf I H(WHAM!!)ad a Hamme(WHAM!!)rThu Dec 23 1993 15:0316
re: .1

This is off the "flexware" subject, but why do we insist on announcing a
bazillion products on the same day?  It seems like we mute any impact of
any one product by doing this.  It started off when we announced the Rainbow,
DECmate and Pro-350 all at the same time ("gee...so which one do they want me
to buy?  guess i'll get an IBM PC instead").  And it's gotten much worse over
time.  Somebody in marketing seems to think that announcing large quantities
of products is better than doing one high impact product announcement.  It
may impress people at the announcement, but it sure muddies the message in
the press and over the grapevine.
								- paul

P.s.  on the subject: how about "flaccidware"...not hard, not even firm, but
	not quite soft either! ;^)
2825.3NACAD::SHERMANSteve NACAD::Sherman DTN 226-6992, LKG2-A/R05 pole AA2Thu Dec 23 1993 17:3915
    re: .2
    
    Yup.  That's a real problem.  I remember the announcement for the LPS20
    being buried with a bunch of other product announcements.  A botch,
    near as I can tell.  Basically had to be reintroduced from what I was
    told.
    
    The reason?  I'm guessing  it's a political thing, sort of a least common
    denominator approach.  That is, high-level folks want to have presence
    with product announcements.  But, it's not reasonable to have them
    involved for one's and two's for announcements because that can be
    handled by subordinates.  So, there needs to be a raft of products so
    that high-level persons can justify their involvement.  
    
    Steve
2825.4SPECXN::WITHERSBob WithersThu Dec 23 1993 18:367
The Flex discussion reminds me that Digital almost released a product called 

	LACluster

Luckilly the name changed at the last moment.

BobW
2825.5Who says that luck has no role in marketing?PASTIS::MONAHANhumanity is a trojan horseFri Dec 24 1993 10:213
    	We did carefuly avoid the PDP-13 (the PDP-14, -15, and -16 were
    sold), but that was in the good old days when Marketing by Mythology
    was the rule.
2825.6For you Trivia buffsICS::DOANETue Dec 28 1993 12:384
    I was part of the PDP-14 development group.
    
    Ken said something like "we're not superstitious, but let's not take
    any chances..." and we just quietly stepped across 13 to 14.
2825.7lightbulb burned outSWAM1::MEUSE_DAThu Dec 30 1993 18:528
    
    flexware= to me some kind of exercise equipment.
    duraware= hiking boots or kitchenware 
    Digital=watchmaker
    
    ...yes, I see a pattern here.
    
    
2825.8What's in a name? Not much around here!EPAVAX::CARLOTTIRick Carlotti, DTN 440-7229, Sales SupportMon Jan 03 1994 02:4131
As a field person trying to get a grip on the vast array of stuff we have to 
sell, I wouldn't mind a naming scheme which helps to "catagorize" a product so 
that I can tell by the name which family of products it is related to 
(POLYCENTER, COHESION, DEC DB xxx, DECxxx 90, DECxxx 900, STORAGEWORKS, etc.).  
I realize, for example, that the POLYCENTER products are mostly an unrelated 
grab bag of products, but at least I know what audience to target those 
products at.

If we actually have six software frameworks into which all of our products fit, 
I for one, would like to see us come out with six family naming schemes shich 
are consistently applied to the product names within those frameworks...and 
they don't have to use common bits like flex or dura across the frameworks.

I have always felt that a customer should be able to make a fairly accurate 
guess about what a product's function is by just seeing the name.  For 
instance, ACMS, FMS and TDMS all suck...DECtp and DECforms are more obvious.
"RdbAccess for xxx" isn't awful, but gives you the impression that Rdb is 
necessary, while "DEC DB Gateway for xxx" is a little more descriptive and 
doesn't imply any dependence on Rdb.

Anyway, having the bits "flex" or "dura" or anything else in EVERY product name 
is about as useful as announcing 200 products at a time, every 3 or 4 months.  
It blows any chance I or my customers have of keeping all ten bazillion of our 
products straight in our minds.

About the only thing I wouldn't mind seeing in every product name is "DEC"...or 
should that be "Digital" or maybe "DIGITAL".  At least the customers would know 
it was from one of those two companies.


Rick C