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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

2693.0. "What would it take to fund a Scott Adams talk?" by TLE::TOKLAS::FELDMAN (SDT Software Engineering Process Group) Thu Sep 30 1993 20:33

Scott Adams, the creator of the Dilbert comic strip, gives talks
for a $5000 honorarium plus expenses.  For those of you who've never
seen this strip, Dilbert is a stereotypical engineer, working in 
a business that frequently seems awfully familiar, and owner (or ownee) 
of a smart aleck dog named Dogbert.  The subject matter runs the
gamut from romance to fantasy (often the same for poor Dilbert),
and frequently pokes fun at business issues in ways that seem
incredibly appropriate to Digital.  For example, 

Frame 1.    Boss: We've got to focus more on the needs of our 
		customers.
Frame 2.    Boss: I've hired famous business consultant Tom Peters to 	
		follow you around and make passionate criticism.
Frame 3.    Peters: Is this Quality?  Are you truly focused on the
		customer?
	    Dilbert (thinking): Great... He's a spitter.

Question:  What would it take to get Adams to talk to Digital 
employees in the GMA (or, for that matter, in any area convenient to
a critical mass of Digital employees)?  I don't have much hope for getting 
Digital to foot the bill (though it would surely be worth in improved 
morale).  I don't think we could do it by charging admission; we'd need 500
people at $10 a head just to cover the honorarium.  Do the various
Employee Activities funds have this sort of money, and if so, could
something be arranged, perhaps balanced with a more reasonable door
charge?  Would it be easier to just make this a public event (with little 
or no tie to Digital).  Any other ideas?

By the way, he's scheduled to speak at MIT in November, so there may
be some opportunity for splitting airfare expenses.  

   Gary
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2693.1DRDAN::KALIKOWTechnology hunter\gathererThu Sep 30 1993 21:1719
    Heck, I'd pay up to $20 for the privilege of hearing Scott Adams.
    
    (I saved at least $100 last month (before "Dilbert" got in trouble for
    using his) when I bought my "Laser Pointer" from Edmund Scientific Co.
    in NJ, rather than through one of the glitzier mail-order catazines, so
    I'd be happy to spend some of the windfall to hear this immortal.)
    
    (lessee, did my parens balance above?  Great.
    
    I've exchanged Internet mail with him -- he published his address at
    aol.com sometime last fall.  He's quite the character in "E-Person"
    too, though completely consonant with the nerdly folks he paints in his
    strip.
    
    Bring him on!  I'd bet that many, MANY Deccies would pitch in on
    this...  I'm only the first of many.  Be prepared to take sign-up
    requests offline rather than cluttering up this string.
    
    :-)
2693.2QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centThu Sep 30 1993 22:396
    I'd pay to see/hear Scott Adams - I too have exchanged some mail
    with him.  I wonder what he's like as a speaker, though.  He may
    be devastatingly witty and astute in his strips (and in e-mail),
    but not everyone is cut out to be a public speaker.
    
    			Steve
2693.356518::BATESNAS-ty BoyThu Sep 30 1993 23:4312
    
    Hmmm...I too am guilty of exchanging mail with Scott Adams...and I know of
    other Digits who have done this too...while I'd pay to hear him speak...
    $5,000 seems a bit hefty...in these days of cost conservation, perhaps
    if we gathered together Scott's responses to all of the Digits who have
    exchanged mail with him, appended them all together in one file and
    then simply ran the file through DECtalk it would be just as good
    without all the cost! ;-)

    -Joe
    
    
2693.4DRDAN::KALIKOWTechnology hunter\gathererFri Oct 01 1993 02:209
    Now THERE's a creative use of technology, Joe...  I gotta admit, it'll
    take a great many (non-TFSOed) DECnerds to get together a $5K pot, not
    counting expenses...  
    
    But with creative thinkers like you around, who needs airplanes and
    honoraria?  
    
    :-)
    
2693.58-)TEKVAX::KOPECMe.Fri Oct 01 1993 09:573
    I'll dig up the DECtalk..
    
    ...tom
2693.624644::SOBECKYJohn Sobecky dtn 223-5557Fri Oct 01 1993 11:557
    
    
    	Forget Adams...let's see if we can get Dogbert to talk to us
    	for a case of Alpo.
    
    	John
    
2693.7seek and ye shall findTOLKIN::DUMARTFri Oct 01 1993 12:3419
    It is difficult to bring in outside speakers at this moment. It
    has been done in the past.....several groups have got together and
    contributed the money. The Women at Work Seminar Series ( a subdivision
    of the W.O.M.E.N. group) has run a forum for the last six years and
    will be running one this year too. Our 'guests' are a direct result of
    surveys/responses/concerns of our group. We negotiate the fee.....
    I really think I'n in the wrong business ...the lecture tour people
    make very good money....pray it gets through Purchasing....locate
    the right site etc. Last year, for example, we had Bertrice Berry
    speak on humour and discrimination. (She's now gone on to that ultimate
    fame > her own talk show!). This year Deepak Chopra will be a speaker.
    So I would check with your Engineering group ....I believe you can
    also join various Engineering networks....see if sponsorship is
    available....negotiate the contract....get the site....and voila!
    you have your speaker. Even in today's climate there is room for
    creative thinking. If you really want Adams as a speaker I believe
    you can find a way.
    
    Paula 
2693.8Could I just go see him at MIT?4GL::CMURRAYChuck MurrayFri Oct 01 1993 12:526
Re .0:

> By the way, he's scheduled to speak at MIT in November,...

Does anyone know the particulars (date, time, location)? Is this talk
open to the public? Is there an admission charge?
2693.9ICS::KAUFMANNLife is short; pray hardFri Oct 01 1993 12:533
    What is Scott Adams' email address?
    
    Bo
2693.10re .9 : scott can be reached at scottadams@aol..comXANADU::GANAPATHIFri Oct 01 1993 13:060
2693.11whither Dilbert?ZIGLAR::FPRUSSDr. VelocityMon Oct 04 1993 20:353
    What rags does the strip show up in?
    
    fjp
2693.12Re: .11 The Boston Globe, for oneRANGER::BACKSTROMbwk,pjp;SwTools;pg2;lines23-24Mon Oct 04 1993 20:540
2693.13.8 again: Where/when at MIT?ASD::DIGRAZIAWed Oct 06 1993 13:207
	Ditto .8: 

>Does anyone know the particulars (date, time, location)? Is this talk
>open to the public? Is there an admission charge?

	Regards, Robert
2693.14TLE::TOKLAS::FELDMANSDT Software Engineering Process GroupWed Oct 06 1993 19:493
I believe Nov 1, but I have no further details.

   Gary
2693.15REGENT::POWERSThu Oct 07 1993 11:5717
Let's not confuse insight with celebrity.
Scot Adams writes a very telling comic strip that many of us can identify
with, but I think his degree of "insight" is no more than that shown by MANY
contributors to this notes file alone (not even considering the rest 
of the industry and its outlets).
Scot Adams has, to his credit and initiative, a forum that has given him
name recognition and celebrity.
Does that merit serious consideration to paying him $5000 or more to leave
his known milieu and see if he can offer us any insights?

Would I pay any of the readers here $5000 for a short evening's entertainment?
(More importantly, would anybody like to offer ME anything approaching that
figure?)
Fat chance!  The lecture circuit is WAY overpriced, and based on fame
for things not connected with public speaking or enlightenment.

- tom] (curmudgeon with a smile on)
2693.16GRANMA::MWANNEMACHERranting and ravingThu Oct 07 1993 12:176
    
    
    Anyone ever see the strip "Duffy"?  
    
    
    Mike
2693.17Yeah, "Duffy" was good, but we don't get it in the Atlanta rag ...YUPPIE::COLESomedays the bug; somedays the windshield.Thu Oct 07 1993 12:322
	... anymore.  Another good one for office humor was "On the Fasttrack",
also disappeared from Atlanta.
2693.18MU::PORTERyou can't say that in this notes fileThu Oct 07 1993 17:467
>Would I pay any of the readers here $5000 for a short evening's entertainment?

Hmm, I didn't think that was the question.  I thought the question
was, would I pay Adams $10 in the hope that I'd get an evening's
entertainment?    Yes, I would.   If he bombs, I'm out $10.
The total of $5000 (or whatever) has no bearing on my assessment
of the entertainment value to me.