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| 2571.1 | | SUBURB::THOMASH | The Devon Dumpling | Wed Jul 07 1993 12:02 | 5 |
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It's layered on the operating system, between the operating system,
and the software that the user uses.
Heather
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| 2571.2 | | SDSVAX::SWEENEY | You are what you retrieve | Wed Jul 07 1993 12:44 | 20 |
| It is "DEC" jargon not used elsewhere in the industry, or at least not
in the DEC sense.
"Layered product" is synonymous with (but not precisely meaning) "not
an operating system".
There are a few products which are not "layered" but also not
"operating systems" like diagnostic software.
There are "layered products" which have dependencies on other "layered
products" like some RDB tools that require DEC RDB.
The distinction "layered product" is also used to separate components
that are shipped with the operating system from operating-system-like
components which are sold apart from the operating system.
For an example of the former, VMSmail is not a layered product for
historical reasons, it's included in VMS. For an example of the
latter, OSF Motif for OpenVMS is a layered product for licensing
reasons.
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| 2571.3 | | WHO301::BOWERS | Dave Bowers @WHO | Wed Jul 07 1993 13:25 | 9 |
| If I remember correctly, in the early VAX/VMS days the term "layered
product" also distinguished between native-mode VAX software and
compatibility-mode stuff.
I remember, as a customer, being a tad confused as to why the COBOL and
FORTRAN compilers qualified for layered product discounts, but BASIC
didn't.
\dave
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| 2571.4 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Wed Jul 07 1993 14:37 | 5 |
| There was no distinction regarding compatibility mode vs. native. Simply
put, "layered product" was a term invented by VMS Development to mean any
software product they didn't produce.
Steve
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| 2571.5 | Layered != unbundled | TLE::AMARTIN | Alan H. Martin | Wed Jul 07 1993 16:31 | 15 |
| Re .2:
> The distinction "layered product" is also used to separate components
> that are shipped with the operating system from operating-system-like
> components which are sold apart from the operating system.
>
> For an example of the former, VMSmail is not a layered product for
> historical reasons, it's included in VMS. For an example of the
> latter, OSF Motif for OpenVMS is a layered product for licensing
> reasons.
Around here, the terms "bundled/unbundled" have been used to distinguish
software which is shiped with the base O/S from that which is packaged
separately.
/AHM
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| 2571.6 | | HDLITE::ZARLENGA | Michael Zarlenga, Alpha P/PEG | Wed Jul 07 1993 20:18 | 7 |
| .2> It is "DEC" jargon not used elsewhere in the industry, or at least not
.2> in the DEC sense.
Microsoft uses the same "jargon" when talking about software layered on
top of NT, and the term means exactly what it does to DEC.
Check out Inside WIndows NT by Helen Custer, the chapter on networking.
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| 2571.7 | | ODIXIE::RHARRIS | Bowhunters never hold back! | Wed Jul 07 1993 20:25 | 8 |
| Selling services, "layered product" means any software application
other than the o/s (vms, ultrix etc) running on the system. Pathworks,
basic, cobol, fortran, rdb, vaxset, blah blah blah are all layered
products. And then you have to sell them update services along with
with lps.
bob
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| 2571.8 | we take our jargon with us | CVG::THOMPSON | Radical Centralist | Thu Jul 08 1993 13:01 | 13 |
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>.2> It is "DEC" jargon not used elsewhere in the industry, or at least not
>.2> in the DEC sense.
>
> Microsoft uses the same "jargon" when talking about software layered on
> top of NT, and the term means exactly what it does to DEC.
>
> Check out Inside WIndows NT by Helen Custer, the chapter on networking.
Could be all the former Digital (and DEC) people there. Helen Custer
is a former Digital writer for example.
Alfred
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| 2571.9 | VMS didn't invent EVERYTHING! | MKOTS3::BEAUDET_T | Tom Beaudet | Thu Jul 08 1993 19:32 | 8 |
| I seem to remember "layered products" on the PDP-11 Operating Systems...
I don't think VMS invented THAT!
But then it WAS a looonng time ago...
/tb/
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