Conference 7.286::digital

    It doesn't seem to be doing anything for me! Here's the ALL-IN-1 message I 
    sent:
    
    --> Michael Nicholls         {Filing: 015986 in OUTBOX }
    M/S: SNO2-2/E4               {Title: ADD               }
                                 {Printed at 11:36 on 12-Nov-1992, Text Type:A }
    
                      I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M
    
     Digital Equipment Corporation          Date:     11-Nov-1992 11:34 AED
     (Australia) Pty. Limited               From:     Michael Nicholls
     A.C.N. 000 446 800                               NICHOLLS MICHAEL
                                            Dept:     MIS
                                            Tel No:   [61]-2-561-5815
    
    TO:  Remote Addressee                     ( digital@humane@mrgate )
    
    
    Subject: ADD
    
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    The above was sent about 24 hours ago and I've had no reply of an ny
    sort.Ideas?

    I believe that the person running this service is having fun with
    quotes in dcl, so bear with it, your extracts will arrive...

Please be careful when creating the Subject: line in your mail message to
HUMANE::DIGITAL.  The distribution list process is automated and was not
entirely prepared for the wide variety of ways people specified their addresses.

For those simply saying ADD or REMOVE in the Subject: line, everything is fine
and you may ignore the rest of this note.

For those specifying a VMS address in the Subject: line, the routines now
ignore any extra stuff so that "ADD ME TO THE LIST PLEASE -- FUNYET::ANDERSON"
or "ADD ME (FUNYET::ANDERSON) PLEASE, by the way how are ya doin'?" will work
as well as "ADD FUNYET::ANDERSON".

For those who want to receive the extracts at an ALL-IN-1 MTS address
(first last @ site), please specify this in the subject line.  Michael in note
.1, who said he hasn't received anything, had a space in his return address
(SNOC01::SNOC01::MRGATE:: A1::NICHOLLS MICHAEL) that was put on by some machine
between him and HUMANE.  The automated procedure took SNOC01::SNOC01::MRGATE
as his VMS address and obviously those extracts wound up in the bit bucket.

You should receive a mail notification within an hour stating that your request
has been processed.  If you don't receive the message, and don't receive any
extracts, check the syntax of your Subject: line and try again.

Paul

    NOt allowing blank spaces in mail addresses. Mail protocol weenies will
    beat you over the head over that one...
    
    q
    

    re: not allowing spaces, and getting beaten over the head
    
    so let them perform the service instead of this gentleman who
    volunteered it.
    
    bwe

    
    I got two duplicate confirming mail messages sent to ddif::tancill, in
    response to my one ADD request, however it stated that extracts would
    be sent to gemvax::burns.  Something get out of sync?
    
    jeff
    

    I've put my VAXmail address in the mail subject and I'll set what
    happens.
    
    Michael (the one that had extra spaces inserted by some friendly
    software somewhere in MTS land!)

As our friend Michael has noticed, for a while late yesterday and early today,
some confirmation messages were sent out with the *previous* person's address
in the text of the message.  This has been fixed, and does not affect the
addition to the distribution list for those who requested to be added.

To make things simple for both you and me, I am only allowing VMS and ALL-IN-1
MTS addresses at the moment.  HUMANE runs DECnet (DECnet-VAX Extensions) and so
can easily send to these addresses.  If there is another type of address that
would be helpful, please let me know.  Spaces are allowed in the ALL-IN-1 MTS
address, so there's no problem in processing different types of addresses as
long as I know what to check for and how to build the address through Message
Router.

Paul

    Twice now I've sent REMOVE requests (and received a confirmation both
    times), but I'm still getting the extract.
    
    Ken....
    

	Only tried once, and am still receiving, as well.

				Tom_K

    
    Well I am just the opposite.  I have submitted twice to get the
    extract, received confirmation both times and received nothing.
    
    Ken
    

.10 and .11 should forward their extracts to .12!

There was a problem with removing names from the distribution list until early
this week.  I have removed Ken A. and Tom from the list and added Ken S.

Paul

    
    
    re: .13
    
    Well at first I saw your note and thought; hey they must have heard you!
    I say this because I got confirmation that the extract should start at
    midnight.  Then I saw note .14 and it confirmed what I had thought for
    a couple of days now - that either there was a problem or a backlog of
    requests.  Anyway thanks .14 (sorry forgot your name) - probally from
    laughing so much at .13s reply (sorry .13 forgot your name too).  Hope
    I am not losing my memory!
    
    o o
     *
    \_/ hee-hee-hee   .... still laughing - really needed that - THANKS!
    
    Ken
     

    I haven't been getting the extracts for the last few days.
    What's happening?
    
    Regards,
    
    Val

If you want the daily extract to be mailed to an ALL-IN-1 address, you must use
the following format in the subject line:

	ADD first_name.last_name @ facility

For example, "ADD Paul Anderson @ OGO".

Specify "ADD" with no address only if you are sending the request via OpenVMS
Mail.

Paul

To all Digital Notes extract service customers,

The daily extract service from the Digital Notes conference will resume tomorrow
night.  HUMANE has been moved to an Alpha AXP system and both the extract
service and the distribution list maintenance software have now been
transferrerd to the new system.

If you have been frustrated in the past with the response time of HUMANE and
used the read-only shadow copy on MORTAL or reduced your use of the conference,
I encourage you to give HUMANE another try.  The speed of OpenVMS AXP is truly
phenomenal!

Thank you for your patience the last two weeks.

Paul

I haven't been receiving the extracts since March 3.  Is the extract
service broken again, or has my entry just been lost from the mailing
list?

Ed Sachs
POBOX::SACHS

There was a system problem while I was on vacation last week that prevented the
extract service from being run.  The problem has been corrected and all should
be back to normal now.

Paul

    
    Is there a problem with the Daily Extracts? I haven't been receiving
    them.
    
    Thanks,
    
    /d

Look for the extract service to return shortly.  Due to software changes on both
HUMANE and the system on which the extract is run, the service has been
unavailable this week.

Paul

    
    Anyone know what happened to the extract service? I haven't been
    receiving it.
    
    Thanks

> Anyone know what happened to the extract service? I haven't been receiving
> it.

The extract job failed a couple of times this week but it's fixed now.

Paul

    Sometimes some of the replies in the extract have no headers in the
    contents part at the beginning of the extract. See the replies after
    the topic 3875 in the extract of 17 May 1995. The headers help me to
    browse thru the contents before reading the actual replies.
    
    
    Sunder

I'm aware of this problem but haven't had time to fix it.  Please be patient.

Paul

    
    Does this daily extract service still exist?  I haven't been
    receiving them.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Dianne

Yes, it does.  Send Paul mail if you're having problems.

			Steve

Due to problems on the system that creates the extracts, the daily extracts of
this conference will not be sent until later this week.

Paul

Recently, some ALL-IN-1 users who have sent a request to be added to the daily
extract service with just an "ADD" in the subject line.  These requests are
ignored by the distribution list software because it expects an OpenVMS Mail
DECnet address.

If you are sending a request from ALL-IN-1, please follow these instructions to
be added to the distribution list:

          <<< Note 2209.18 by FUNYET::ANDERSON "OpenVMS Forever!" >>>
                     -< Reminder to those using ALL-IN-1 >-

If you want the daily extract to be mailed to an ALL-IN-1 address, you must use
the following format in the subject line:

	ADD first_name.last_name @ facility

For example, "ADD Paul Anderson @ OGO".

Specify "ADD" with no address only if you are sending the request via OpenVMS
Mail.

Paul

    
    I've been receiving the daily extract at my VAXmail account for
    several years.  Sometime last week I stopped receiving it.
    Anything wrong?  I've experienced interruptions of several days
    in the past, but they usually resumed, and I found the reason
    for the interruption in this string.  Using the prior reply,
    I'm going to try to reroute my extract to Exchange, but I'd
    like to know what happened.
    
    Lou
    
    

Lou,

Mail from HUMANE to some DECnet nodes has been failing since late last week due
to "remote node is unknown."  This is an after-effect of the node translation
problems HUMANE experienced last week.

In your case, information for node MROA was bogus; witness your note with a
numeric representation for your system MROA.  I've cleared HUMANE's node name
cache of some bogus information, so you should start to receive the extracts
again.

Paul

    
    Thanks,  I just received the last two extracts.
    
    Lou
    

    
    Is the extract service once again down?
    
    Thanks

Yes, the extract service seemed to be stuck, so I stopped and restarted the
software and it seems to be working now.

Paul