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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

2202.0. "Stock price fluctuation indicating something ?" by LEPARD::SEKURSKI () Fri Nov 06 1992 10:31

    
    
    	From time to time I see I jump in our stock price and wonder 
    	what happened, especially when I don't read about in VNS or
    	here...
    
    	So I ask the question, Why did the price of DEC stock go up over
    	$2.00 yesterday ?
    
    						Mike
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2202.1Annual Stockholder's meetingCAPNET::CROWTHERMaxine 276-8226Fri Nov 06 1992 10:425
                     <<< Note 2202.0 by LEPARD::SEKURSKI >>>
              -< Stock price fluctuation indicating something ? >-


Good vibes from the stockholder's meeting.
2202.2have we found the magic button?MRKTNG::SILVERBERGMark Silverberg DTN 264-2269 TTB1-5/B3Fri Nov 06 1992 10:525
    gee...if we can get a few points out of a stockholders meeting, let's
    hold one every day 8-)
    
    Mark
    
2202.3WBZ radio comment last night..SOLVIT::DESMARAISFri Nov 06 1992 11:295
    What I heard on the radio last night going home WBZ was the
    announcement by Palmer that DEC was going to be divided into
    seperate financially accountable Business Units. Example
    PC's would be a division(?) responsible for its own bottom 
    line..
2202.4see livewire (worldwide news)INFACT::BEVISThey're gone, are we far behind?Fri Nov 06 1992 13:111
    
2202.5Cancel those meetings till next month!!!SPECXN::BLEYFri Nov 06 1992 13:487
    
    Well I for one don't want to see the stock go up until after Dec. 1,
    and we have purchased our stock at the lowest price....THEN it can
    go as high as it wants to.  Maybe those $120. shares I have will be
    worth something again.
    
    
2202.6nov 30SCCAT::SHERRILLhead between knees were goin downFri Nov 06 1992 17:313
    
    What I have noticed through the years is that the stock goes up before
    stock purchase and the drops right after. 
2202.7..easy!ANARKY::BREWERnevermind....Fri Nov 06 1992 22:576
    
    re: .0
    
    	Stock probably went up upon hearing that we will shortly have
    	a new VP in charge of Ethics.
    	/john
2202.8or did they hire Machiavelli?SA1794::CHARBONNDnow watch Sarah gloatMon Nov 09 1992 01:581
    I would have expected the opposite reaction >;-)
2202.9Investor Services making a profit on us???STOOA::ACOSTAMon Nov 09 1992 12:1313
    if you look at the number of shares bought on June 1st., and look back
    at the number of shares bought the previous two weeks, you'll have your
    answer. Again, the same thing is happening now, you'll see the
    following  Vol (100s) 11/2/92 = 11944  , 11/03/92 = 16524, 11/04/92  =
    11179, 11/05/92 = 18974. I bet Investors Services are buying the
    employee shares right now, increasing their profit once it gets to 
    December 1st. and we are charged $40 (-15%) per share, rather then $33
    (-15%) per share. 
    
    
    
    
                                                                   
2202.10SCHOOL::SUSELDanced my feet down to the knees!Mon Nov 09 1992 14:253
    no no no.  purchase price is the LOWER of the start and end date
    prices.  we are already guaranteed a maximum purchase price as dictated
    by the opening day.
2202.11For What It's Worth!!!ODIXIE::GELINEAUTue Nov 10 1992 13:5212
    So negative.  How about the following scenario.
    
    * Palmer spoke
    * ALPHA AXP Announcement on 10/10
    * Additional TFSO
    * Business Units
    * More Optimistic Outlook for CY93
    * Analyst Comments Still Highlight Digital Favorable Position in The
      Industry From A Financial Standpoint
    
     
    
2202.12I hope my math is right!!!, STOOA::ACOSTATue Nov 10 1992 14:3645
    Humor me, let do some math for you. .10 was right we are guaranteed a
    maximun purchase price. I believe that amount is ~$37/share (June 1st
    stock value.
    
    If you follow the stock activity during the past few days, prior to
    Nov 2 an average of 700000 shares were transacted daily, from the 
    2nd to the 5th  a total of 5,862,100 at an average of $34/share.
    
    700000 (average) x 4 = 2,800,000 (shares if the average activity
                                      continued)
    
     Date          High         Low           Close     Vol(100s)      
    
           06-Nov-1992     37           36 1/8         36 3/4       8068
           05-Nov-1992     36 7/8       34 5/8         36 5/8      18974
           04-Nov-1992     35 1/8       34 1/4         34 1/2      11179
           03-Nov-1992     36           34 1/2         34 1/2      16524
           02-Nov-1992     35 5/8       33 5/8         35 5/8      11944
           30-Oct-1992     34 3/8       33 1/8         33 3/4       8689
           29-Oct-1992     35           33 1/4         33 1/4       7337
           28-Oct-1992     35           32 7/8         35           7918
           27-Oct-1992     33 5/8       32 7/8         33           7493
           26-Oct-1992     34           33 1/4         33 1/2       4840
    
    
    $34 x .85   = 28.9  $29/share (reducing cost by 15% empl. disc.).
         
     If the price of stock remains at $37 or goes up, we'll pay $37/share
    
    $37 x .85   =31.45  $31.50/share (this is the amount we'll pay)
    
     31.5 - 29 = $ 2.5 difference
    
                  A total of 3,000,000 shares (over average) were bought on 
                 the 4 days
    
     $2.5 x 3,000,000 = $7,500,000 profit on the purchase price difference,
    If I were Investors Servies, what you think I'll do. For further
    confirmation let's see how many shares we'll see purchase on December  
    1st on our behalf.
    
    
                             
    
                                  
2202.13put your money where...HANNAH::BOONETue Nov 10 1992 15:4419
    don't neglect the flip side.  what if:
    
    Stock bought already:
    $34 x .85   = 28.9  $29/share (reducing cost by 15% empl. disc.).
    
    December 1st stock is at $31!!
    
    $31 x .85   = 26.35  $26/share (reducing cost by 15% empl. disc.).
    
    28.9 - 26.35 = -2.55  Difference
    
    -$2.55 x 3,000,000 = $7,650,000 LOSS 
    
    
    
    If you all so sure the stock will go up by Dec 1st, go buy some, and
    sell it on Dec 1st!
    
    
2202.14ESPP from treasury stock?OZROCK::FARAGOFY94 HW$6B SW$4B Serv$7BTue Nov 10 1992 23:193
    I thought the ESPP prospectus states that the shares "sold" to
    employees are from "treasury stock?" which means they are shares
    already owned by Digital.
2202.15think of it as Price SupportREGENT::REGENT::BLOCHERMon Nov 16 1992 20:5410
    It does and is. However, "treasury stock" is stock Digital has bought
    at sometime or the other, and is different than (previously)unissued
    stock. So, in anticipation of X numbers of stock being needed on our
    "buy" date, Investors Services purchases stock whenever it seems "low".
    This is not bad, in that it keeps some demand out there, which keeps
    the stock from going even lower, which would make our Stockholders
    upset. 
    
    Marie
    
2202.16The Stock PotAUSTIN::UNLANDSic Biscuitus DisintegratumTue Nov 17 1992 14:2316
    Stock price doesn't seem to be fluctuating, it seems to be on a steady
    downward trend.  I thought the Alpha announcement would help, until my
    stockbroker pointed out to me that Digital management has repeatedly
    stated that Alpha won't have any impact on revenues until the end of
    next year.  And while there are some people who buy and sell stocks
    based on hype, most of the traders out there are interested in only
    two things:  revenues and profits.
    
    I can't imagine that the Investor Services purchases make much of
    a dent in the overall market volume.  Even at the current low price,
    I doubt that the employees consume that much stock through ESP.
    And the last time I talked to anyone with options from the RSOP,
    it didn't sound like they were going to be exercising those options
    anytime soon ...
    
    Geoff