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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

2009.0. "where is safety?" by STOKES::BURT () Wed Jul 22 1992 17:30

    Need a pointer:
    
    Is there a NF that is dedicated to safety issues?
    
    Thanks,
    Reg.
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2009.1ZYDECO::PEACOCKShakin' the bush, BossWed Jul 22 1992 18:4311
    You might try:
    
    
    Product Safety                  Contact LESREG::SEGAL for membership     
    
    
    from easynotes.lis.
    
    
    Tim
    
2009.2thanksSTOKES::BURTThu Jul 23 1992 10:518
    <-- I looked at that and saw that it is a members only and the title
    suggests and says "Product Safety".  I'm looking for general safety
    for DEC: labs, offices, sites, policies, procedures, etc.
    
    I guess I'll just have to find out what Product Safety is all about.
    
    Thanks,
    Reg.
2009.3nothing for in houseBTOVT::CACCIA_Sthe REAL steveThu Jul 23 1992 15:5414

    Reg,

    To the best of my knowledge there is no notes file specifically dealing
    with the issues you mentioned. The closest thing I know of deals with
    environmental and site planning issues for the field. you can find that
    on GUMMO::ENVIRONMENT. It is an open conference. 

    If you have a specific question about policies you can look it up in
    VTX - ORANGE BOOK EMPLOYEE HEALTH AND SAFETY or call Chuck McGrail at
     DTN:229-7897.


2009.4thanks!STOKES::BURTMon Jul 27 1992 13:537
    Thanks for the new pointer; I never would have thought of looking in
    the environment file.  I'll go once again to the orange book, but it
    never really has a steadfast hardcore policy under which to operate.
    
    Everything is so gray (in more ways than one)
    
    Reg.
2009.5Is there anything that's cut'n'dry?STOKES::BURTThu Aug 20 1992 17:1739
    Well, I've searched high and low and find nothing.  At least through
    this type of medium and some local sources.  Does DEC have a corporate
    level safety org that basically dictates how it expects it's people to
    work under various environments?
    
    I mean we had one person die in 35 years (that I know of), it should be
    none, but it could've been many more.  So, in essance, I'd say we have
    a pretty good awareness of safety.
    
    However, accidents happen and in a laboratory environment or a
    manufacturing environment where chemicals are used, who in these
    various locations spells out what has to be worn/not worn, etc.
    
    I get a lot of answers, but they're ususally in the form of finger
    pointing.  I see some things written/documented, but rarely do more
    than one follow a set operating procedure layout (if DEC has such an
    animal).  I hear a lot about, "well, OSHA says...", but nothing as to
    what DEC says.
    
    People say safety is unique to each site; I say hogwash to that!  Very
    thourough blanket procedures could be developed to handle the whole
    corp; from there, each site and subsequently each group could have
    something to go by.  
    
    It's very hard to attempt to warn people of possible hazards, such as
    wearing contact lenses when present around chemicals, when there is
    nothing to back one up that DEC supports.  Now, I may be totally out to
    lunch here and there maybe safety operating policy and procedures out
    there that DEC has bought off on that everyone can use to fit into
    their present orgs, BUT I've yet to see anything like this.
    
    Reg.
    
    FWIW: I've been my group's safety coordinator for 5 years and have had
    to deal with many people in site safety orgs and have constantly run
    into these problems of "whose job is it?" "whose responsibility is it?"
    etc.  I can only suggest what I can within my power, but I'm constantly
    confronted with, "does DEC say that?"  I mean, there has to be
    something to protect DEC legally, at least.
2009.6NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Aug 20 1992 18:242
I looked in the phone book under "Safety."  The first listing is "Corporate
Manager."  DTN is 223-8374.
2009.7A1VAX::DISMUKESay you saw it in NOTES...Thu Aug 20 1992 20:137
    Each facility does/should have a "safety manager".  I remember when I
    worked in facilities years ago we had one in our group - he is still
    part of the safety organization.  Just what are you looking for?  Would
    Gerald's suggestion help?
    
    -sandy
    
2009.8others to try . . .CAPNET::CROWTHERMaxine 276-8226Thu Aug 20 1992 20:142
    Try Polly Strife in Environmental Health and Safety or Ron Lamb in
    Risk Management (insurance related issues).
2009.9SUBURB::THOMASHThe Devon DumplingFri Aug 21 1992 08:2613
	I don't think you'll get the same saftey procedures everywhere.

	Different offices and plants are built differently, with different
	numbers of people, and different ways of working, and each country
	has its own health and saftey legislation that it has to comply
	with.

	We have a health and saftey manager, and also health and saftey reps in
	each area who have recieved training.
	

	Heather