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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

1956.0. "New DTN phone books?" by TOOK::MORRISON (Bob M. LKG2-2/BB9 226-7570) Mon Jun 22 1992 13:25

  Was a new DTN phone directory published in May? There are no new phone dir-
ectories in the LKG mailroom (and haven't been), and the clerk has not been
notified when/if new DTN phone books will be available. Also, I checked the
DTN phone book and couldn't find a number to call for the corporate DTN office.
Hence I'm posting this question here. It wouldn't surprise me to hear that
Digital has decided to postpone the directory update that was scheduled for
May. But if this is true, they should have informed (at least) the mailrooms.
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1956.1VCSESU::COOKThe Cookster!Mon Jun 22 1992 13:262
    
    You got it. Use VTX ELF from now on.
1956.2Effects on my groupASABET::MACGILLIVARYMon Jun 22 1992 13:5213
    That is correct the May directory has been postponed.  The next
    directory is scheduled to be published in November, but then who knows?
    
    This directly effects my group, as I manage the telephone operators at
    the Mill and they depend on that updated info. Not so much for the 
    employee DTN's but for the department listings in the back of the book.
    Also we have found that for at least a couple of months after the 
    directory is published the call volume from employees decreases which 
    allows the operators more time to be avaialble to handle the calls from 
    external customers, potential revenue generating calls.  
    
    But then, noone asked for my opinion on whether it should be printed or
    not! 
1956.3CVG::THOMPSONRadical CentralistMon Jun 22 1992 14:068
	I got mail on this. I assumed most people did. It's a cost cutting
	measure.

	RE: .2 People often forget about that sort of thing. I wish that sort
	of stuff was included in ELF. I doubt there is a technology reason why
	it can't be.

			Alfred
1956.4ELF works MOST of the time.EARRTH::ROBERTSraised on anthraciteMon Jun 22 1992 14:084
    
    
    
    Not all employees are on ELF,  or are the ELF listings kept up to date.
1956.5Ack!GENRAL::KILGOREUtah desert ratMon Jun 22 1992 14:154
The Corp phone book is where I get my copy of the Fiscal Calendar.  Anybody
have a FY93 calendar on-line that you could send me?

Judy
1956.6What Service! Request filled...GENRAL::KILGOREUtah desert ratMon Jun 22 1992 15:453
I received a postscript file of the calendar which looks great!  Thanks Sandy.

Judy
1956.7can someone post the calendar fileTENAYA::YEEMon Jun 22 1992 15:579
Hi:  I need the FY93 calendar also.  Can someone post
it on this notefile?

thanks,

PS: if it is true that no phone book will be available til
Nov 92, folks better keep updating their ELF profile or security
desk will be flooded w/ calls just to find the right number.
1956.9ELF OR NOTAIMHI::HARDCASTLEMon Jun 22 1992 16:251
    WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE, NO ONE ANSWERS THEIR PHONE ANYWAY.
1956.10ICS::CROUCHSubterranean Dharma BumMon Jun 22 1992 16:4212
    
    
    There may not be anyone left to answer the phones.
    
    Seriously, I can see why they may do away with Hardcopy
    versions of the DTN phone book. However, there should be
    an on-line replacement of some kind. ELF sure isn't it
    and as stated by Janet doesn't fulfil everyones needs.
    
    Jim C.
    
    
1956.12Fiscal 1993 CalendarMAJORS::ALFORDlying Shipwrecked and comatose...Mon Jun 22 1992 16:46845
Postscript file for Fiscal Calendar 1993 follows <FF>


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1956.13And some location codes will be dropped, too...SMURF::COOLIDGEBayard, DSE/PSPE-OSF ZKO 381-0503Mon Jun 22 1992 16:4610
    
    ELF is all fine and dandy, but it gets a bit spooky when you see
    a NOTES entry or some sort of electronic mail from a facility's TLA
    that you've never heard of and can't look up.
    
    And, then some of us have to do an rlogin to a VMS node just to
    use VTX ELF because it's not directly supported on non-OVMS platforms
    as yet...
    
    
1956.14VMS and DECnet not needed for VTX ELFLNDRFR::ADOERFERMon Jun 22 1992 17:1344
    
    re departmental listings - it's being worked on.
       MTS codes - several ways to get them, some actually "current"! :-)
       The other thing the phone book had was the "coupon"/instructions
          for changing your DTN, and that's being worked, too.
       
    re: .13 rlogin
    A small plug/fact correction....
    
    
    With the current release of VTX, you get

	o New clients on multiple platforms:
	
	    VMS Character Cell
	    Ultrix Character Cell
	    DOS Character Cell
	    MS-WINDOWS
	    Motif (VMS and ULTRIX)

	o Customizable options including keypad mappings.  This can be
	  done on a system wide or per user basis.

	o "Point and click" on menu choices for windowed systems
	  and DOS systems.

	o Improved character cell interface using stripmenus, dialogue
	  boxes and command line and form field editing.

	o Internet communications between VMS and Ultrix Clients and VTX
	  servers.


    The VMS kit uses standard VMS install. If you choose to install the
    complete kit, there will be a reference directory created for the ULTRIX
    and DOS kits. See the installation guide for more details.

    The ULTRIX kits are setld(able). Use FTSV on VMS, dcp -i or ftp (in
    binary mode) on ULTRIX to copy the files to preserve the integrity of
    the tar files.

    The DOS Kit should be copied to a directory on your PC, then type
    INSTALL to run the installaion.  
    
1956.15What with SERP, and the upcoming TFSO's, it probably ...YUPPIE::COLENeck-deep in the Big Muddy, ...Mon Jun 22 1992 17:172
	... would have been a waste of paper!  Can we assume things will be
stable in November??? :>)
1956.16only 2 holidays?ROYALT::KOVNEREverything you know is wrong!Mon Jun 22 1992 17:285
The calendar in PostScript a couple of replies ago only shows Christmas and
New Year's Day as holidays. Either we have many fewer holidays, or this was
the international version and doesn't show any country-specific holidays.

Does anyone have a more complete one? (I'd like the US calendar.)
1956.17US holiday info56383::DWESSELSMon Jun 22 1992 17:4117
    TM                                                   
    digital                    U.S. News                         LIVE WIRE
                                                         
                                 U.S. HOLIDAY SCHEDULE
    
                                         1992
      New Year's Day      Jan. 1          Day After Thanksgiving     Nov.27
      Memorial Day        May 25          Assignable Day             Dec.24
      Independence Day    July 3          Christmas Day              Dec.25
      Labor Day           Sept. 7         Personal Holiday
      Thanksgiving Day    Nov. 26         Location Choice Holiday
    
      To acquire your Location Choice Holiday date, contact your Facilities
      or Personnel Department.
    
    
    /dlw
1956.18MAJORS::ALFORDlying Shipwrecked and comatose...Tue Jun 23 1992 08:3514
Re: .16

As we are an International Company, and the whole company uses the fiscal 
calendar, I deliberately only put in the Christmas/New Year holidays.  It's not 
that difficult to patch in your local/country holidays.

The fiscal calendar is not issued in Postscript.  It's something I usually do 
around June as I think that this is the best way to get the Fiscal Calendar 
spread around the company, after all, we do have the most extensive networks 
and having an on-line version is logical :-)


If you want a US version, you will probably have to create your own.
1956.19VORTEX::BASLIN::RYANThink spring!Tue Jun 23 1992 11:2817
	re .13:

>    And, then some of us have to do an rlogin to a VMS node just to
>    use VTX ELF because it's not directly supported on non-OVMS platforms
>    as yet...

	If you don't want all of VTX just to access ELF from
	ULTRIX, see:

dxelf Motif Directory Search Utility TRUTH::DXELF                           3135
dxelf Motif Directory Search Utility easynote.confs.applications.dxelf      3135

	There's also a command-line ELF interface called "elph",
	but I can't find the notesfile anymore (did it close down
	when Martin Minow left?).

	Mike
1956.20ELPH PointerCVG::THOMPSONRadical CentralistTue Jun 23 1992 13:027
>	There's also a command-line ELF interface called "elph",
>	but I can't find the notesfile anymore (did it close down
>	when Martin Minow left?).
    
    It's still open. It's now at VMSZOO::ELPH.
    
    		Alfred
1956.21ON-LINE Fiscal CalendarAKOPWJ::LANEDon't assume I'm all I ever will be...Tue Jun 23 1992 14:088
You can find an on-line version of the fiscal calendar for viewing in
VTX AMTABLES, option 10.  This shows the US holiday's also.

To get a copy of the postscript file go into VTX AMTABLES, option 8.
The report name is FISCAL.093 and you specify which account to have it mailed
to.  

Debbi
1956.22So that's where it is....A1VAX::DISMUKESay you saw it in NOTES...Tue Jun 23 1992 15:145
    Thanks Debbi - that's where I got the copy for Judy but it was so long
    ago that I extracted I couldn't remember where it could be found.  
    
    -sandy
    
1956.23Why 6 weeks in June of FY93?DYNORM::NORMANTue Jun 23 1992 18:434
  I printed off a copy of the FY93 calendar and was surprised to see 6 weeks
  in June of next year.  Any reason for this one?

  /teri
1956.24\CIS1::FULTITue Jun 23 1992 18:445
>  I printed off a copy of the FY93 calendar and was surprised to see 6 weeks
>  in June of next year.  Any reason for this one?

Read the note under the Title.......
1956.25ROYALT::KOVNEREverything you know is wrong!Tue Jun 23 1992 18:455
Two people mailed me US copies shortly after I asked. Thanks.

(I realize that you had made an international version; I thought that was what
I said.)

1956.26MR4DEC::GREENPerot's the dudeTue Jun 23 1992 19:196
    
    Just to be picky: the digital logo at the bottom of the calendar
    is an illegal log. It should not be used. Use the correct logo,
    which is unique and not a typeface as was used on the calendar. 
    
    
1956.27CREATV::QUODLINGOLIVER is the Solution!Tue Jun 23 1992 20:4913
    re                 <<< Note 1956.23 by DYNORM::NORMAN >>>
>                       -< Why 6 weeks in June of FY93? >-
>
>  I printed off a copy of the FY93 calendar and was surprised to see 6 weeks
>  in June of next year.  Any reason for this one?
>
>  /teri

    Anything to stretch the selling potential of Q4.... :-)
    
    
    q
    
1956.28Think of it as "leap week" (^8MAZE::FUSCIDEC has it (on backorder) NOW!Tue Jun 23 1992 21:069
re: .23

>  I printed off a copy of the FY93 calendar and was surprised to see 6 weeks
>  in June of next year.  Any reason for this one?

52 seven-day weeks is only 364 days.  When they're a whole week behind, 
they throw in an extra week at the end of the year.

Ray