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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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1807.0. "Digital investigated DCU loans back in 1986" by SMAUG::GARROD (An Englishman's mind works best when it is almost too late) Mon Mar 16 1992 22:41

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    The attached was posted in the DCU notesfile. I'm posting it here
    because the information is not just about the DCU. It is about Digital
    and how it has dealt with the DCU in the past. I find it very
    interesting that Digital Security investigated DCU's loan activities
    with the since failed Barnstable Credit Union (BCCU), way back in 1986.
    Pity Digital couldn't have somehow persuaded the DCU to stop those
    participation loans back then. Would have saved the DCU (ie us the
    owners) over $12M.
    
    It is also interesting to see that Digital the Corporation is taking a
    great interest in this years elections for the DCU. A memo from John
    Sims has been sent to all DCU members at their homes notifying people
    how important it is to vote. It also suggested that they read the Nominating
    Committee Statement. Now I wonder which set of candidates that
    statement will back. Wouldn't be the Nominated ones by any chance would
    it?
    
    More information than is posted here is in the SMAUG::DCU notesfile.
    
    A note to the DIGITAL moderators. All that is posted below has been
    verified. Contact myself or Phil Gransewicz offline if you need details
    on the verification. Please this paragraph only applies to DIGITAL.NOTE
    moderators.
    
    Dave
    
    
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	Digital Corporate Security has acknowledged the existance of a report
	which it conducted in 1986 concerning DCU's loan activities with 
	Barnstable Credit Union.  Informed sources tell me that the report
	has been subpoenaed by federal authorities.  Other sources have told
	me that Digital and DCU lawyers have 'spoken' with the people who 
	conducted the investigation to explain that it should not be discussed.
	The actual contents of the report are not known outside of corporate
	security.  No more can be said at this time.
    
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1807.1ACOSTA::MIANOJohn - NY Retail Banking Resource CntrTue Mar 17 1992 17:205
I'm sure glad I took all of my money out of there last month.  If it looks
like a skunk, walks, like and skunk, and sounds like a skunk it probably
smells like a skunk as well.

John
1807.2GUFFAW::GRANSEWICZI'm voting for REAL CHOICE candidates next weekTue Mar 17 1992 18:195
    
    RE: .1
    
    But hopefully you kept that last $5 in so you could vote to change
    things...
1807.3correction posted in 1807.8SSDEVO::EGGERSAnybody can fly with an engine.Tue Mar 17 1992 19:135
    I've just talked to Ray Humphrey in Digital Security. He confirms that
    Digital had an *inquiry, not an investigation, in 1986, and says the
    results are confidential so that he can't give me any more information. 
    He did say that Kinzelman, Gransewicz, et al. do have copies of the
    results of the inquiry.
1807.4GUFFAW::GRANSEWICZI'm voting for REAL CHOICE candidates next weekTue Mar 17 1992 21:1332
    
    My apologies for posting this reply to the previous reply since the
    same reply is also in DCU.  Just wanted to make sure you read the
    answer in case you don't monitor DCU the conference.
    
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GUFFAW::GRANSEWICZ "I'm voting for REAL CHOICE cand" 23 lines  17-MAR-1992 17:16
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>    I've just talked to Ray Humphrey in Digital Security. He confirms that
>    Digital had an *inquiry, not an investigation, in 1986, and says the
>    results are confidential so that he can't give me any more information. 
    
    Could he please explain the difference between an inquiry and an
    investigation?  The real questions is what did the 'inquiry' SAY.  What
    were the findings?
    
    And why is the result of an 'inquiry' about DCU confidential??  As
    shareholders of DCU aren't we entitled to know what that report says?
    What are they trying to hide or who are they trying to protect?  Do
    what DCU does, redact names and indentities but release the report.
    
>    He did say that Kinzelman, Gransewicz, et al. do have copies of the
>    results of the inquiry.

    Mr. Humprey is lieing to you.  We have told him repeatedly that we do
    *not* have a copy of the report.  If we *did* have the report why would 
    we be asking him for it?  And rest assured, if we did have the actual 
    report, YOU WOULD TOO, right here in this conference.  We have no
    vested interest in protecting this report.
    
1807.5What is the Legal Relationship - DEC & DCUFHOPAS::JAMBE::MCMULLENTue Mar 17 1992 22:5815
Small Nit Questions - 
     
   If the DCU is an independant entity from Digital Equipment Corporation, 
operated "at arms length" from DEC, then:

   1) What authority or juristiction does DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORP SECURITY 
      have in investigating and/or inquiring into activities of an 
      external, non-DEC corporation?.

   2) Who requests, authorizes, and directs DEC corporate resources 
      during such investigations/inquiries?

   3) What is the legal relationship between DCU and Digital?

    
1807.6We've wanted to know about those things for some time now16BITS::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dog face)Wed Mar 18 1992 00:016
re: .5

Hardly nits. I think those are very critical questions. You'll pardon me
if I don't hold my breath while we await the answers.

-Jack
1807.7No small nits in the bunchGUFFAW::GRANSEWICZI'm voting for REAL CHOICE candidates next weekWed Mar 18 1992 00:1727
    
    RE: .5
         
>   If the DCU is an independant entity from Digital Equipment Corporation, 
>operated "at arms length" from DEC, then:

    I believe John Sim's letter sent to DCU members on Monday pretty well
    dispels this myth.
    
>   1) What authority or juristiction does DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORP SECURITY 
>      have in investigating and/or inquiring into activities of an 
>      external, non-DEC corporation?.

    The problem is that both of them have DIGITAL in their names. 
    Sometimes people don't understand the difference and complain to the
    wrong people. 
    
>   2) Who requests, authorizes, and directs DEC corporate resources 
>      during such investigations/inquiries?

    	Probably Corp. Security or somebody high up.
    
>   3) What is the legal relationship between DCU and Digital?
    
    Lately this is the $64,000 question.  I seems to depend on the day, issue,
    and people involved.

1807.8SSDEVO::EGGERSAnybody can fly with an engine.Wed Mar 18 1992 03:038
    Ray Humphrey has sent me a correction to 1807.3.
    
    He says that the inquiry is privileged and confidential, and
    that the "results" are not held by Kinzelman, Gransewicz, et al.
    
    That may very well have been my error in transcribing the substance of
    the telephone call.  I tried to get it right, but something clearly
    went awry.
1807.9ICS::CROUCHJim Crouch 223-1372Wed Mar 18 1992 10:167
    This whole business sounds like a good story for Morley and the
    crew of 60 minutes. He's in town doing a story on the State Senate
    President Billy Bulger. Maynard is a short drive out from Southie.
    They could get 2 of the 3 weekly stories without much travel expense.
    
    Jim C.
    
1807.10GUFFAW::GRANSEWICZI'm voting for REAL CHOICE candidates next weekWed Mar 18 1992 11:5014
    	RE: .8
    
>    Ray Humphrey has sent me a correction to 1807.3.
    
    Thank you for that correction.
    
>    He says that the inquiry is privileged and confidential, and
>    that the "results" are not held by Kinzelman, Gransewicz, et al.
    
    Hmmm, "privileged and confidential"?  So are we to believe that nobody
    in DEC has seen this inquiry?  If people HAVE seen it, who has seen it?
    At what level does one have to be to see it?
    
1807.11New ground broken every daySTUDIO::HAMERBertie Wooster loves George BushWed Mar 18 1992 15:4314
    >>He says that the inquiry is privileged and confidential, and
    >>that the "results" are not held by Kinzelman, Gransewicz, et al.
    
    And under what doctrine is this inquiry privileged? Doctor-Patient?
    Lawyer-Client? Secrets of the Confessional? Corrupt President-
    Incriminating audio tapes? House Schill-Embarrassed/incriminated
    management? 
    
    The sacred trust between the investigator and investigatee? That *is*
    a new one to me.
    
    It is very hard to put this in a neutral, much less a positive, light.
    
    John H.
1807.12privileged info.?BTOVT::CACCIA_Sthe REAL steveWed Mar 18 1992 20:0214

    RE.11 and a few others.

    Under what authority is the inquiry information confidential? You may
    have it closer to the truth than you think. If there  was in fact an
    inquiry into any function of the DCU and/or it's officers, personnel or
    activities, AND , there MAY be a POSSIBILITY of litigation or charges 
    then the information in that report would be confidential under the
    right to privacy act and by attorney client privilege.

    ********PLEASE NOTE THE KEY WORD ----- AND, MAY, POSSIBLE. I claim no
    knowledge of anything that went on. This reply is conjecture based on
    past experience as an investigator in an unrelated field.
1807.13The missing link!!!DEMOAX::SMITH_BThu Mar 19 1992 00:577
    If I remember correctly, the DCU is made up of Digital employees,
    most Digital employees do banking on company time, and Digital 
    gives the DCU free floor space.  Could that make Digital and the
    DCU 'connected' ??
    
    Brad.
    
1807.14INDUCE::SHERMANECADSR::Sherman DTN 223-3326Thu Mar 19 1992 01:5812
    According to what has been posted here, it was an INQUIRY, not an
    INVESTIGATION.  Also, Digital Security is in the business of checking
    on matters regarding Digital, not other companies such as DCU.
    
    I'm not clear on the difference between an inquiry and an
    investigation, but my understanding is that an inquiry is intended to
    be considerably less formal and less intensive than an investigation.  
    Given the mission of Digital Security, the inquiry was probably
    intended to be limited in its scope of query regarding DCU and to be
    focused more on Digital.
    
    Steve
1807.15GUFFAW::GRANSEWICZI'm voting for REAL CHOICE candidates next weekThu Mar 19 1992 04:058
    
    Enough word games please.  Haven't we already gone down this road with
    loans and 'investments'?  The real issue is what was discovered, if
    anything.  Who HAS read the report at Digital and/or DCU?  
    
    Given the recent statement by Mr. Sims that DCU is an employee benefit,
    why wouldn't DEC security possibly become involved?  Or is this the day
    that DCU is a 'seperate entity'?  ;-)
1807.16BEING::EDPAlways mount a scratch monkey.Thu Mar 19 1992 13:196
    What motivation does John Sims have for this?  Does Sims benefit from
    DCU in any way other than ordinary membership?  Do any of his friends
    or other connections benefit somehow?
    
    
    				-- edp
1807.17SCHOOL::RIEUSupport DCU Petition CandidatesThu Mar 19 1992 14:223
       Well, from reading his letter, Mr. Sims obviously got to read the
    committe's report before any other members did. How did this happen?
                                      Denny
1807.18SSDEVO::EGGERSAnybody can fly with an engine.Thu Mar 19 1992 22:0115
    Re: .16  by EDP

    Does John Sims benefit?  I don't know.  I don't know who is friends
    really are.  I presume that he is on friendly terms with the other VPs,
    one of whom is running for the BoD.  I presume he also knows Digital's
    Director of Public Relations, who still is the DCU BoD Chairman. Do
    those people benefit?  I hope not, but power has been called an
    aphrodisiac on many occasions.

    I would be much happier with this whole situation if there were some
    openness.  We can't even find out who are the members of the secret
    committee behind the "Qualified Choices" flier.  Is John Sims a member
    of that group?  I don't know.

    Do you?
1807.19ACOSTA::MIANOJohn - NY Retail Banking Resource CntrFri Mar 20 1992 02:1921
RE: <<< Note 1807.2 by GUFFAW::GRANSEWICZ "I'm voting for REAL CHOICE candidates next week" >>>
>    But hopefully you kept that last $5 in so you could vote to change
>    things...

I did.  I just got my ballot today and I noticed a very interesting thing
about the nominated candidates:  their qualifications are almost the same
(MBA/lawyer, Finance etc.)  While individually the nominated candidates
are all well qualified, all together as a group the slate stinks.  What
ever happened to "Valuing Diversity"?  We don't need 7 finance people on
the BoD.  1 or 2 would do just nicely.

The someone ought to extend to the nominating committee the
Maggot-Filled Road Kill award.  I would also like to give my
congratulations to those people who went to the effort of petitions so
that we could have, at the the opportunity, for a representive BoD. 

In the future DCU needs a nominating committee that can find at least
one qualified Software Engineer, or Field Service Tech, or Secretary, or
factory worker.

John
1807.20Cape Cod Times article on 1986 ReportGUFFAW::GRANSEWICZI'm voting for REAL CHOICE candidates next weekFri Mar 20 1992 03:41195
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   [Re-printed without permission from the Cape Cod Times, March 19,1992]

	    "Digital had tip-off in '86 about bad loans to Cape"
			By Susan Milton
			   Staff Writer

	  Millions of dollars of risky Cape real estate loans were first 
	investigated in 1986 by the Digital Equipment Corp., according to
	investigators at the international computer company.

	  Checking out a tip about the Cape loans, the investigators were
	surprised to learn that the primary lender was their own credit union,
	the Digital Employees' Federal Credit Union, based in Maynard.

	  Their report, intended as a warning, was rejected by credit
	union leaders, the former Digital employees said.

	  Now the credit union has lost millions of dollars because of such
	loans, now known to be faked and channelled through the closed
	Barnstable Community Federal Credit Union in Hyannis.

	  Due to the loan losses, the Hyannis credit union was taken over 
	a year ago and closed last June by federal regulators.  Last April,
	the Digital credit union fired Richard Mangone, its president since
	1983.

	  Mangone and other Barnstable credit union insiders secretly siphoned
	millions of dollars in loans shared by the two credit unions between
	1987 and 1990, according to two civil lawsuits.

	  Digital's 1986 report has resurfaced to draw new attention to the
	$345 million credit union, the largest in New England, and its parent 
	computer company.

	  The Cape Cod Times has learned:

	  o The Federal Bureau of Investigation has supoenaed and obtained the
	    1986 report.

	  o The 1986 investigation and report was denied last week by Digital
	    credit union chairman, Mark Steinkrauss, also Digital's director
	    of investor relations.  He described "an informal inquiry" in 1986
	    that revealed Mangone was serving on the Barnstable credit union 
	    board that developed and sold the large loans to his own credit 
	    union.

	  o A Digital lawyer, by letter and telephone, last year warned two
	    former Digital employees to keep quiet about the company's 1986
	    investigation of Cape loans.

	  Those early loans, all repaid, included $2.8 million for the 41-lot
	Yankee Village commercial/residential subdivision in Brewster and a 
	$2.7 million mortgage for the Sands Motor Lodge and Greenbrier Motel
	on Route 132 in Hyannis.

	  Later, between 1987 and 1990, Mangone led the Digital credit union
	to invest another $18 million in 12 similar loans for Cape motels
	and real estate projects, all now in foreclosure.

	  The 1986 report has resurfaced during a campaign that will decide
	the future management of the Digital credit union, created as an 
	employee benefit for Digital employees.

	  Under fire for months over the Cape loans and other operating 
	policies, the entire Digital credit union board, many of whom are
	high-level Digital managers, is being replaced.

	  The unusual election, involving 81,000 voters at various worksites
	in 83 countries, was mandated last November at a special meeting
	called by rebelling depositors.  The ballots were mailed March 14,
	with results due at the credit union's April 23 annual meeting.

	  At the heart of the campaign are the Cape Cod loans.  The primary 
	focus according to board critics, is not the fraud nor the credit
	union's losses.  It was the board decision in 1985 to make such 
	loans at all.

	  "The issue is that our credit union funds were being funnelled
	into what many consider to be risky investments, land development
	on the Cape.", said candidate Phil Gransewicz, a Digital engineer
	and board critic.

	  Digital investigators, also credit union members, had the same 
	reaction in 1986.  That is why the 1986 report was an early warning 
	to the board about its lending policies.

	  Confirmation about Digital's 1986 investigation came from two 
	former Digital employees.  Although known to Digital, both men asked 
	the Cape Cod Times not to publish their names.

	  In further confirmation, Digital lawyer William Sutton's letter
	warned against disclosing information about a 1986 investigation.
	Sutton contacted the two former employees, first by telephone, then by
	Express Mail, just before the November debate over the board's removal.

	  Because of such warnings, each refused to comment on the 1986 
	investigation and report.  But the two former employees said there was
	no reason to protect Sutton's letters, which puizled and angered them.

	  The report, one former employee said, was not about Digital at all,
	but about the credit union, a seperate corporate entity, which had shown
	no interest in the report's contents in 1986.

	  He asked, "Why is Digital keeping this from the (credit union)
	membership which has a right to know if people (board members) running
	for office were delinquent in their duties or not?"

	  Sutton did not respond to a request for comment.  In a later letter 
	to the two men, he said his purpose was not to intimidate the two former
	employees but to remind them of their legal and professional 
	obligations.

	  In a telephone interview last week, Steinkrauss downplayed the 1986
	events by saying, "I'll say again - and I am in a position to know,
	there was no investigation.  There was no report.  There was no 
	subpoena.  There was none."

	  He did remember meeting with Digital management in 1986 over an 
	anonymous phone call.  He said the call "suggested some sort of 
	impropriety and I'm not even sure it was with (Digital credit union)
	but with Barnstable."

	  Told about Sutton's reference to the 1986 investigation, Steinkrauss
	then recalled there had been "an informal inquiry but all the 
	references were to the Barnstable credit union."

	  Steinkrauss suggested that the newspaper was being fed distorted 
	information by board candidates who were politicking or trying to 
	tarnish past or present board members.  He also suggested that the 
	likely sources about the 1986 investigation had ulterior motives.

	  He said, "I can't tell you the circumstances under which they left,
	(their jobs) because that would be a violation of trust."

	  One former employee said they retired early, by choice, when 
	Digital offered to buy out their pensions.  Known, not anonymous,
	sources started the investigation.  Both men said that an in-depth
	investigation resulted in a lengthy report about the early loans.  
	The Cape Cod Times also confirmed, through non-Digital sources, that
	the report had been obtained by the FBI by subpoena from Digital.

	  Through the 1986 inquiry, Steinkrauss added, the Digital credit
	union board did learn its president, Richard Mangone, was also 
	serving on the Barnstable board.  The board asked Mangone to sever 
	his Barnstable relationship, Steinkrauss said, because "he was 
	drawing his salary, after all, from DCU."

	  Mangone complied, but continued to make weekly visits to the 
	Barnstable credit union to prepare the fraudulent loan applications
	that he then presented and sheparded through a deceived Digital credit
	union board, according to a pending lawsuit.

	  Steinkrauss even visited the Cape investments on trips to the Cape,
	he said.  He is among four Digital credit union board members who 
	own second homes or timeshare units on the Cape.  He did not know if 
	other board members made similar visits.

	  In another change after the 1986 report, the Digital Credit Unions
	participation, usually 75% to 90%, was concealed.  Its participation
	was denied, in 1987 and early 1991 by Mangone and other Barnstable 
	credit union officials interviewed then by the Cape Cod Times.  The
	loan's were recorded in the Barnstable credit union's name.

	  The Digital credit union is now suing Mangone, as well as Robert 
	Cohen of Newton, former counsel for both credit unions; Cohen's
	Wellesley law firm, Cohen & Kushner; Rockport developer Ambrose 
	Devaney; Barnstable developer and credit union founder James K. Smith;
	and Centerville appraiser Paul C. Brown.

	  Its suit claims that each man played a role in a scheme to locate
	properties, fake loan and legal documents, recruit "straw borrowers",
	inflate property values and siphon money for personal use.

	  About last year's revelations, Steinkrauss said, "I know that I was
	deeply saddened to see that the trust we had put in Mr. Mangone was
	broken.  It was a blow to all of the board and all of the staff and
	certainly all the membership at Digital (credit union)."

	  Claiming $47 million of fraud at the Barnstable credit union, 
	federal regulators are suing Mangone, Smith and Cohen, as well as 
	former Barnstable credit union leaders Michael O'Neil, a lawyer now
	living in Scituate, and Bruce Harris, now living in Florida.

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1807.21Makeup of the Nominating CommitteeSALEM::BERUBE_CClaude, G.Fri Mar 20 1992 10:26158
    Rep to <<< Note 1807.19 by ACOSTA::MIANO "John - NY Retail Banking Resource Cntr" >>>

>The someone ought to extend to the nominating committee the
>Maggot-Filled Road Kill award.  I would also like to give my
>congratulations to those people who went to the effort of petitions so
>that we could have, at the the opportunity, for a representive BoD. 
>In the future DCU needs a nominating committee that can find at least
>one qualified Software Engineer, or Field Service Tech, or Secretary, or
>factory worker.

    Part of  the  problem  was the make up of the Nominating Committee (see
    below) of the  total  3  members, 1 was a current DEC employee, 1 was a
    EX-DEC employee (Retired) and the third  member  a DCU Employee.  While
    on  the  face  of  it  that  doesn't   look  bad  because  you  have  a
    representative from all 3 categories that make up  the  DCU membership.

    The bad part was they were all high level  DEC/DCU  employees.    Now I
    don't have any personal gripe with any of the three  members  that made
    up  the  committee mind you.  What I'm getting at is  as  long  as  the
    Nominating Committee is made up of high level folks, you will never get
    a  Board  of  Directors  made  up  of  a TRUE cross section of the  DCU
    membership and the Representation/Accountability that goes  along  with
    it.
    
    Maybe if we get a chance to  have  several  of  the Petition Candidates
    (whether Real Choice or not) or the lone  Nominated  Candidate,  one of
    the changes I would like to see if a Nominating Committee made up of at
    least  5  DCU  members from a greater cross-section of the  membership.
    Which by the way was also one of the issues concerning the  current DCU
    BoD makeup etc.
    
    Claude

    PS I found  it  odd  how  the  little brouchure with all the candidates
    write-up, one page 1 were we  have  the Nominating Committee Report, We
    aren't  provided  with the names of all  3  members  who  made  up  the
    committee.

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Author:	DCU                           
Date:	06-Jan-1992
Posted-date: 06-Jan-1992
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                    DIGITAL EMPLOYEES' FEDERAL CREDIT UNION
                DCU 1991-92 BOARD OF DIRECTORS SPECIAL ELECTION
                         NOMINATING COMMITTEE OVERVIEW
         
         
         
         Each year a credit union's Chairman of the Board appoints a 
         Nominating Committee for its annual elections.  This year's 
         nominating committee possesses a diverse knowledge of 
         finance, business, credit unions and human resources:
         
         
         Phyllis Lengle/Chairperson
         Business Unit Management Reporting Manager/Central
         Finance Group
         
         Phyllis has been with Digital Equipment Corporation for 3 
         years and has extensive experience in management and 
         corporate finance.  She has an MBA from the Wharton School, 
         University of Pennsylvania, and a BA in Economics and 
         Political Science from Millersville University.
         
         Ms. Lengle served on DCU's Nominating Committee in 1990.
         
         
         Anita Cohen
         DCU member
         
         Anita is a retired Digital Equipment Corporation employee 
         with 12 years of management experience.  Her position as 
         Programs Manager in Digital's Personnel and Corporate 
         Personnel organizations challenged her with the management of 
         fair and equitable Personnel policies and practices.  She has 
         a BS in Education from Boston University.
         
         Ms. Cohen was a candidate for DCU's Board of Directors in 
         1989.
         
         
         Chuck Cockburn
         DCU President/CEO
         
         Chuck has over 20 years of credit union experience including 
         10 years with the National Credit Union Administration 
         (NCUA), the federal agency governing all credit unions.  He 
         has 10 years of experience as president/CEO of two other 
         large federal credit unions.
         
         Mr. Cockburn has an MBA from George Washington University and 
         a BS from Frostberg State College.
         
         
         

         
         INTERVIEW SCHEDULE/CANDIDATE WRITE-UPS
         Because there have been numerous requests to increase the 
         number of words in candidate write-ups, DCU's Nominating 
         Committee has voted to increase the limit to 150.  They 
         believe this will allow candidates to adequately state their 
         position, assure readability and contain postage costs to 
         $.29 per member.
         
         DCU has received 43 applications for the 1992 Special 
         Election.  All applicants will be interviewed on January 7th 
         or January 11th. (2 members of the current DCU Board of 
         Directors are seeking re-election and have submitted 
         applications.)
         
         
         TERMS FOR BOARD POSITIONS
         Terms for DCU's Board of Directors will be staggered as 
         follows:
         
         1. The two (2) candidates receiving the highest number of 
         votes will be elected for a three (3) year term.
         
         2. The three (3) candidates receiving the next highest number 
         of votes will be elected for a two (2) year term.
         
         3. The two (2) candidates receiving the next highest number 
         of votes will be elected for a one (1) year term.
         
         For example:
         
                                # of votes              term     
         Candidate A		10			3 years
         Candidate B		 9			3 years
         Candidate C 		 8			2 years
         Candidate D		 7			2 years
         Candidate E		 6			2 years
         Candidate F		 5			1 year
         Candidate G		 4			1 year
         Candidate H		 3			   -
         Candidate I		 2			   -
         Candidate J		 1			   -
         
         
         Under our bylaws, all elections are by plurality vote.  In 
         order to comply with our bylaw requirement that terms be 
         staggered, the above procedure has been adopted. This 
         procedure was suggested by the National Credit Union 
         Administration (NCUA).
         
         If you have questions about the Special Election, please 
         contact Patti D'Addieco, Assistant Marketing Director, at 
         DTN/223-6735 or 508/493-6735, ext. 239. 
1807.22SCHOOL::RIEUSupport DCU Petition CandidatesFri Mar 20 1992 11:574
       What I find odd about this nominating process is that one of the
    candidates now running by petition was, in the past, nominated by the
    committee. Why, all of a sudden, is he no longer qualified?
                                           Denny
1807.23Let's not get the two topics all tangled up...SCAACT::AINSLEYLess than 150 kts. is TOO slowFri Mar 20 1992 12:017
Could we please keep the discussion of the election/nominating process in the
other DCU note and limit the discussion here to the news story concerning the
investigation/inquiry.

Thanks,

Bob Co-moderator DIGITAL
1807.24Some food for thoughtGUFFAW::GRANSEWICZI'm voting for REAL CHOICE candidates next weekSat Mar 21 1992 15:5387
    
    In light of the recent Cape Cod Times article and the revelation of the
    existence of the 1986 report, I feel I should post a note that I authored 
    in the SMAUG::DCU conference.  I believe it raises some very pertinent 
    questions that need to be asked as we are selecting people for the DCU
    Board of Directors.  Any replies would probably be better in the DCU
    conference though.
    
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	Independent: "not looking to others for one's opinions or for guidance
		      in conduct"

	This is a note about independence.  It is written with the events 
    	of the last several months in mind as well as all of the current 
    	goings on regarding the election.

	Depending on the issue at hand and the people involved, Digital and
	DCU have what can only be described as a on-again, off-again 
	relationship.  Some days they are described as being seperate entities,
	while today we find that DCU is an employee benefit deserving the 
	attention of a Digital VP and thousands of Digital dollars.  

	DCU's board has always been firmly controlled by senior Digital
	managers.  There has been little or no interference with this control.
	Candidates have always been selected by the Nominating Comm. which is
	selected by Chairman of the Board and follows the instructions given 
	to it by the Board.  When Directors have resigned, the Board votes
	on who the replacement is, in other words they are hand-picked.  The
	one exception to this was the time a lone petition candidate ran
	about 5 years ago.  I have spoken with him and his description of
	what he went through in the process compares to what we are seeing
	now, but on a smaller scale.

	This very tight bond between Digital senior management and DCU has
	VERY bad implications at this point in time.  With the loss of
	millions of dollars and the credit union posting a loss, Digital 
	senior managers find themselves in a light that is not one which 
	may be considered favorable.  This undesirable situation may carry
	over to the Digital side since they are senior managers in the 
	corporation.  If you or I had been involved, the fallout would have
	been much less.

	Are there situations in the future (past or present also) in which 
	this very tight bond between DCU and Digital senior management may 
	force them to choose between what is right for the credit union and 
	what is right for Digital, our their career?  Are senior Digital 
	managers free to fulfill roles as Directors without having to think 
	twice about their positions as Digital senior managers?  One instance 
	that looms in the very near future is the possibility of collecting
	on the $3 million bond on the current Board.
	
	The following are facts.  The DCU Board is bonded for $3 million.  DCU
	has refused to disclose the terms under which the credit union may 
	collect on this bond.

	We have been told by the Board that "It is important to note that these
	investigations [NCUA & DCU] have not implicated any other official or
	employee of DCU." (Network, Oct. 1991)  We have also been told by the 
	NCUA that "...the NCUA had not conducted nor had any plans to conduct
	an investigation into the activities of current members of Digital
	EFCU's board of directors.". (Letter from NCUA)

	The questions are:

	1. If elected to the Board, will Digital senior managers be unencumbered
	   to fully investigate the actions of the current Board to determine 
	   the feasability of collecting on the $3 million bond?

	2. Will personal or professional relationships play a role in deciding
	   what is in the best interest of the DCU membership, keeping in mind
	   that 20,000 DCU members are NOT Digital employees.

	3. Are Digital senior managers capable of taking action as a Director 
	   which may harm the reputation or image of other Digital senior
	   managers (and thus possibly Digital) if it is determined to be in 
	   the best interest of DCU?

	4. Are candidates for the Board, who are not Digital senior managers,
	   undesirable in that they may be unencumbered?

	Much to think about...
    
1807.25More food, gulp?ALOS01::MULLERFred MullerSun Mar 22 1992 14:292
    Does DEC itself bear any responsibility for what happened because of
    the overlap of "officers"?  I have not seen this question asked yet.