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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

1621.0. "Does Senior Corp Consulting Eng. title exist?" by STAR::ABBASI () Thu Oct 03 1991 00:04

    
    in the 1991 DEC annual report i just received in US-mail today,
    it list the Corporation consulting Engineers, there are 14 of them:
    Fernando Colon-Osorio
    Richard J. Holligsworth
    Richard I. Hustvedt
    Alan Kotok
    Butler W. Lampson (Dr Lampson has good interview in book called
                       'programmers at work' by microsoft press, i
                       recommend reading this book)
    Richard Lary
    Anthony G. Lauck
    Jesse Lipcon
    Mathendra R. Patel
    John Shebell
    Robert E. Stewart
    William D. Strecker
    Robert M. Supnik
    Charles P. Thacker
    
    There was no listing of any Senior Corp Consulting Engineers, why
    is that? i thought there was such a title? 
    
    it must be really hard to be a corp. consulting Engineer, we only have
    14. (they dont list how many senior consulting and consulting Engineers
    we have, it will be intersting to know these numbers too)
    
    FYI, it list the number of DEC employees at 121,000 for 1991,
    and at 124,000 for 1990. it showes as the largest number was in 1989
    at 126,000. there many more usefull data about DEC in this report.
     
    /Nasser
    
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1621.1IMTDEV::BRUNOFather GregoryThu Oct 03 1991 02:214
         The title exists, or did a month or two ago.  The one we had at
    CXO retired then.
    
                                       Greg
1621.2Slighly different titleHIBOB::SIMMONSTristram Shandy as an equestrianThu Oct 03 1991 03:388
    Re .1
    
    He was not a corp. cons. eng.  He was a Senior Corporate Consultant
    with no engineer in the title (I don't know why because he is a good
    one).  Anyway, he was my manager for 11 years - I hope I know who he
    was!
    
    cws
1621.3Except for Mike Riggle, the 1990 list is the same as .0VMSZOO::ECKERTWaltzing to a rock 'n' roll songThu Oct 03 1991 06:0212
    The 1990 Annual Report had 15 people listed under the heading
    "Corporate Consulting Engineers".  Each of the 15 had a title and
    area of expertise listed along with their name.  For example:
    
    	Fernando Colon-Osorio
    	Corporate Consultant, Information Systems Business
    
    Of the 15, two were listed as "Senior Corporate Consultants":
    Mike Riggle (Storage and Information Management) and Bill
    Strecker (Architecture).  I believe Dave Cutler was also a
    Senior Corporate Consultant before he left Digital.
    
1621.4SDSVAX::SWEENEYSOAPBOX: more thought, more talkThu Oct 03 1991 10:185
    William D. Strecker has a few hats:
    
    Senior Corporate Consultant (p.52)
    Vice President, Engineering (p.51)
    * "Executive officer" under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934
1621.7IMTDEV::BRUNOFather GregoryThu Oct 03 1991 11:2012
    RE: <<< Note 1621.2 by HIBOB::SIMMONS "Tristram Shandy as an equestrian" >>>
    
>    He was not a corp. cons. eng.  He was a Senior Corporate Consultant
>    with no engineer in the title (I don't know why because he is a good
>    one).  Anyway, he was my manager for 11 years - I hope I know who he
>    was!
    
         I can't dispute what his title was when you worked for him, but
    his title at retirement was "Corporate Engineering Senior Consultant",
    to use the official JIS jargon.
    
                                       Greg
1621.8NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Thu Oct 03 1991 12:034
re .7:

OK, so what's the job code?  For that matter, what's Ken's job code?
I can't find either under VTX JIS.
1621.9Don't want to get TOO depressed!STAR::DIPIRROThu Oct 03 1991 12:571
    	Just don't list the salary ranges. I don't want to know!
1621.10IMTDEV::BRUNOFather GregoryThu Oct 03 1991 14:2013
    RE: <<< Note 1621.8 by NOTIME::SACKS "Gerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085" >>>

>OK, so what's the job code?  For that matter, what's Ken's job code?
>I can't find either under VTX JIS.

         I don't know the job code (or Ken's either).  However, by semi-
    logical extrapolation from a known job code, I would guess that the
    job code is 60Ex (the "x" is either an A,B,C or D).
    
         VTX JIS seems to be missing several job codes.  I don't know what
    the criteria is for having it listed there.
    
                                    Greg
1621.11Software Engineer job codes 50AxSIMON::SZETOSimon Szeto, International Sys. Eng.Fri Oct 04 1991 00:0317
    Before JEC, the job titles were: Software Engineer 1, Software Engineer
    2, Senior Software Engineer, Principal Software Engineer, Consulting
    Software Engineer, Senior Consulting Engineer, and (I think) Corporate
    Consulting Engineer, Senior Corporate Consulting Engineer.
    
    After JEC, the job titles are: Software Engineer 1, Software Engineer
    2, Software Senior Engineer, Software Principal Engineer, Software
    Engineering Consultant, Software Engineering Senior Consultant, and I
    don't know the exact titles of the two Corporate Consultant grades
    above that.  Note change of usage from "Consulting" to "Consultant."
    The top grade listed in JIS under Software Engineering is 50AF.  I
    would hazard a guess that job codes 50AG and 50AH exist but are not
    listed in JIS for some reason.  Or could it be that at such elevated
    levels they don't make distinctions between software and hardware?
    
    --Simon
    
1621.12IMTDEV::BRUNOFather GregoryFri Oct 04 1991 15:435
         My friendly PSA has informed me that the job code for a
    Corporate Engineering Senior Consultant is 60EB.  Semi-logical
    extrapolations do seem to work.
    
                                     Greg
1621.13BUNYIP::QUODLINGWhat time is it? QUITTING TIME!Fri Oct 04 1991 15:585
    Strange VTX JIS doesn't know about Code 60EB. I guess they don't want
    any more of them.
    
    q
    
1621.14Can't touch 'emKISHOR::MITTALFri Oct 04 1991 17:068
    
    FYI:
         KO's 1990 salary: ~$950,000 (base salary)
                           ~$11 million (with bonus, stock options etc.)
    
         Jack Smith: ~$550,000 (base salary)
    
     (source: Business Week, around August 1991).
1621.150001?NOTIME::SACKSGerald Sacks ZKO2-3/N30 DTN:381-2085Mon Oct 07 1991 13:234
re .14:

If you're a stockholder, you can find that information in your proxy statement.
It still doesn't list KO's job code.