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| 1481.1 | | COVERT::COVERT | John R. Covert | Thu May 30 1991 03:27 | 3 |
| Secretary?
'Bout the only way she'll get permission to work in the U.S. is by marriage.
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| 1481.2 | Mission Impossible | CSSE32::RHINE | A dirty mind is a terrible thing to waste | Thu May 30 1991 10:43 | 12 |
| US Immigration will never approve the temporary international
assignment for a secretary. It is getting harder and harder to get
approval for highly technical people.
International Relocation is also VERY expensive to DEC. Although
qualified people to fill secretarial positions are being sought in many
DEC organizations, DEC is not going to spend that kind of money on an
international relocation to fill a secretarial position. I have done
several international relocations of senior technical contributors and
I have been told no more. FYI the last domestic relo. I did cost about
$80K and I was lucky to get it approved. I know a number of people are
paying their own relo expenses if they want another job.
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| 1481.3 | Not A Good Idea....... | COOKIE::LENNARD | Rush Limbaugh, I Luv Ya Guy | Thu May 30 1991 14:28 | 6 |
| I'm probably gonna take a ration of you_know_what for saying this, but
the lady would probably also be quite disappointed in the life of a
secretary in the U.S., even at DEC. Generally, they are not properly
respected for their skills, and this is reflected in an inadequate
pay scale. She certainly couldn't attempt to live on the pay of a
secretary in the New England area.
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| 1481.4 | Keeping fingers crossed... | BEAGLE::BREICHNER | | Fri May 31 1991 09:57 | 24 |
| re: all
Thanks for the recommendations. BTW It never has been the
question to relocate her, just helping to find a job.
Finding a job seems to be less difficult than I thought.
I received a quick reply showing genuine interest from
a recruiter in Palo Alto, Leesa GIDARO.
Having read "not so good things" about recruiters in this
conference, I wanted to stress her initiative in particular!
So it looks not too bad for the job. (The west coast is the
"closest" to TAHITI anyway and the west coast seems to
represent more job opportunities than the east-coast, which
in turn might explain the difference, if any ,in recruiter
quality).
For immigration, we'll have to find out.
I guess I'll mention the "marriage solution" which
has come up several times.
Gee, if I were Single and American, I'd sure be a candidate !
(My wife can't read this file :-) )
Thanks,
Fred
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| 1481.5 | it's tough | SUBURB::THOMASH | The Devon Dumpling | Mon Jun 03 1991 10:54 | 33 |
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I have worked in the States with a 1-year work visa, which I also had
renewed for a further year.
The best thing to do is get the job, then apply for the visa.
To qualify for a work visa, you need a university degree, or 10 years
in the business.
The employer then has to proove that they have advertised the job x
times, and no suitable American has applied - this is usually
accomplished by paying a lot less than the "going rate" for the job.
It took a large company, who was used to these procedures - 6 weeks to
get me a visa, this was considered very quick.
You then get a 1-year work visa - be careful, some of these are single-
entry only, ie if she went to Tahiti after 3 months because her father
was ill, she couldn't get back in again without re-applying for the
visa.
Once you are in the states on this visa, you can then start to apply for
a green card - this costs for a lawyer (attourney?) and can easily take
2-3 years - you are not meant to leave the US whilst you are applying
for a green card.
In this 2-3 years, you have to get the work visa renewed, and your
employer will have to re-advertise etc.
I have known some very good techi people go through this, I have NEVER
heard of a secretary accomplishing this.
Heather
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| 1481.6 | Pointer to possible source of jobs... | BSS::D_BANKS | | Mon Jun 03 1991 21:36 | 13 |
| Re: <<< Note 1481.0 by BEAGLE::BREICHNER >>>
> How could I help her to find one (aside VTX and "old boys"
> network.
You might want to try a notes conference which is devoted to advertising both
available jobs and people looking for jobs. I think it's U.S. jobs only, but
you should still be able to access it (slowly :-). It's located at OASS::JOBS
(KP7 or Select will add to your notebook).
I'm deliberately avoiding the relocation and immigration issues... :-)
- David
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| 1481.7 | 1990 Immigration Act | EICMFG::WJONES | Commuting Loon: Autocheck-in Mode | Tue Jun 04 1991 06:53 | 22 |
| > Once you are in the states on this visa, you can then start to apply for
> a green card - this costs for a lawyer (attourney?) and can easily take
> 2-3 years - you are not meant to leave the US whilst you are applying
> for a green card.
Heather, I'm afraid you're way out of date on this one! The 1990 Immigration Act
significantly changed the way all this works. H1 visas now come in two classes,
H1A and H1B. There are quotas on both; the H1 used to be available in almost
unlimited quantities. If you are in the USA on an H1x and you apply for a
Green Card, you will be deported. The reasoning is that when you apply for an
H1x, you sign a form saying that you intend to return home at the end of the
stay in the US. By applying for a Green Card, you are saying that you want to
*stay* in the US and not return home. The INS takes this to mean that you lied
on the original application. This is grounds for deportation.
I have a very thick book covering all this, including changes in recent law. If
anyone has specific questions, mail me by this Friday and I'll look up the
rules and the guidelines. (The book is about 500 miles away at the moment!)
As you may guess, I too am attempting to get over there... :-)
Gavin
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| 1481.8 | Check out other titles too. | TPS::BUTCHART | TP Systems Performance | Tue Jun 04 1991 11:23 | 10 |
| re: difficulty of getting immigration for a secretarial position
Don't limit the search to straight Secretary job codes either. There
are a number of job codes within Digital that a heavy duty
administrative secretarial position is good qualification for. Check
out CSSE Project Specialist (or whatever the new title is since JEC) and
similar positions. Might find that a slight change in the title makes
all the difference in the world to the INS bureaucracy.
/Dave
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| 1481.9 | | SUBURB::THOMASH | The Devon Dumpling | Tue Jun 04 1991 13:25 | 5 |
| I think my visa was an H2 - I'll check, however, I'm certain that the
rules get more and more restrictive, and not less so, which means
It's even more difficult to stay, even if you have a job.
Heather
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| 1481.10 | It is hard in these times... | MR4DEC::MAHONEY | | Mon Jun 10 1991 18:38 | 10 |
| And then, after all that is accomplished.... how can you expect to live
in the US with a secretary's salary? you'll need some suplementary
income... or be ready for some very "frugal" days ahead! as coming from
overseas implies a lot of expenses like a car, housing, taxes, learning
your way around, and very important, getting used to a new culture and
way of living. It is not impossible, but it sure is difficult.
Lots of luck.
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