| T.R | Title | User | Personal
Name | Date | Lines |
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| 1438.1 | Job obsolete? | CADSE::MACPHERSON | | Wed Apr 17 1991 20:08 | 5 |
| This is just a guess, Mike. I know at least one person who has been on
maternity leave for exactly a year. She is planning to come back, and
has not been offered the package. However, the job is clearly one that
does not need to be filled. Apparently your friends job became
obsolete. Nothing stays the same around here for very long.
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| 1438.2 | Leave of any kind not exempt | GEMINI::GIBSON | | Thu Apr 18 1991 01:01 | 5 |
| Way back in the beginning I remember reading that employees out on
STD, LTD, or LOA of any kind were not exempt from the layoff. I think
the job had to have disappeared for that to happen.
Linda
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| 1438.3 | So What Else is New???? | COOKIE::LENNARD | Rush Limbaugh, I Luv Ya Guy | Thu Apr 18 1991 15:29 | 8 |
| I can absolutely confirm that senority or performance has nothing to
do with it. There really is no hard criteria. It's a matter of
whether or not you are in a ground that is adequately funded, and
above all that you are working on some viable project, viable meaning
profitable.
Senority never has meant anything in Digital....and that's probably
good.
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| 1438.4 | | MAMTS5::MWANNEMACHER | Just A Country Boy | Fri Apr 19 1991 11:06 | 4 |
| Her whole group did not go away, just 2 people.
Mike
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| 1438.5 | | FDCV07::HSCOTT | Lynn Hanley-Scott | Fri Apr 19 1991 13:30 | 5 |
| RE the 8 week unpaid parental leave - if you take 4 weeks, you're
guaranteed your job when you return; if you take the full 8 weeks,
you're only promised a similar position, not necessarily the same job.
So, perhaps that was a factor in your friend being let go.
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| 1438.6 | some questions? | WFOV11::KULIG | | Mon Apr 22 1991 15:53 | 9 |
| Mike,
Was this person on the golf league?
Was she on the hockey team?
Did she eat lunch with the right people?
Was she a manager?
If you answer yes to any of the above, you would have survived the
cuts in Westfield.
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| 1438.7 | Let's look at the bright side! | MR4DEC::MAHONEY | | Tue Apr 23 1991 12:15 | 17 |
| remarks like .6 would undermine moral in any employee... and I reserve
the right to doubt the context...
I think that private activities like hockey or golf is not the right
"tool" to guarantee job continuity. PERFORMANCE should...
Let's think that "our company" is going through rough times, just like
any other business these days and it is doing the best it can to go on,
survive, you name it, but please, let's keep our loyalty, integrity,
and knowledge alive, that is the best way to help to get over the rough
period... Digital needs the best we can provide now!
Don't take my remarks badly, it is not my intention to hurt or bother
anybody, my intention is to bring up the good feelings and knowledge
that all of us have and put it to use! Things are bad... it will only
get better. (the world have gone through many recessions and got out of
them all, we will get over this one too)
Best wishes, Ana
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| 1438.8 | Try again! | FLYWAY::ZAHNDR | | Thu Apr 25 1991 11:29 | 5 |
| >1438.3 Sorry, I have found this fact untrue. Seniority has more
weight in some groups. Hard work, good performance did not count.
For what it's worth.
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| 1438.9 | Was your friends job critical to DEC? | NAC::BRAUNSTEIN | | Mon Apr 29 1991 18:56 | 20 |
|
We just went through a down sizing in T&N. There were a few different
criteria given as selection criteria. The most common ones used were
"the skills you have do not match what DEC currently needs, but we are
sure other companies need people with your skills" and "DEC has too
many people with your skills and we are consolidating the efforts but
we are sure other companies have positions that require your skills".
In very few cases was performance metioned as the reason. IMHO, in many
cases performance was the real reason. All the people I know who got
let go were senior people (10+ years all the way up to 18.5 years with
DEC). Some were engineers, so there goes the theory that engineers are
imune. I also have to say that contrary to previous notes, I saw no proof
that social activities or who you know made you imune. I did not agree
with all the selections (both those who were selected to stay and those
who were selected to go) but reasonable criteria seem to have been used.
Getting back to the base note. Your friend's groups probably made an
important discovery when she was out. They could do without her. She
may have done her job well but it was a job that was not needed. May
be sad but is probably true and is a good selection criteria.
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| 1438.10 | few are indispensable | XANADU::FLEISCHER | without vision the people perish (381-0899 ZKO3-2/T63) | Tue Apr 30 1991 20:08 | 10 |
| re Note 1438.9 by NAC::BRAUNSTEIN:
> Getting back to the base note. Your friend's groups probably made an
> important discovery when she was out. They could do without her.
Of course, a well-managed group should be able to do without
any one of its members (obviously, there will be exceptions
for VERY rare talents). That alone proves little.
Bob
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