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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

1249.0. "Financial Goals of Digital?" by MARMAT::JERRY (Oh Captain, my captain - I shall seize the day!) Mon Oct 29 1990 19:29

    I'm looking for the latest, financial goals of Digital for FY90 &
    FY91.  These goals would be the following:
    
       
         Operating Asset Turns
         DSO (Days Sales Outstanding)
         Inventory Turns
         Net PP&E Turns
         R&E/NOR (Research & Experimentation)
         SG&A/NOR (Sales, General & Administration)
         Gross Margin
         PAT (Profit After Tax)
         Tax Rate
         Operating Profit/NOR
         ROE (Return on Equity)
         ROA (Return on Assets)
         OROA (Operating ROA)
    
    Any information, would be highly appreciated.
         
    Thanks     
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1249.1Well. I think it can be safely said that ...YUPPIE::COLEOpposite of progress? Con-gress!Mon Oct 29 1990 20:007
	... if you ever find some of them in THIS conference, it was the last note
ever written, and you probably were its last reader! :>)

	Possibly the SEC's 10K report might contain enough pieces to get what
you ask, but I'm not sure.  Some of those things look pretty confidential to me.

	You could always call Investor Services.
1249.2SDSVAX::SWEENEYPatrick Sweeney in New YorkMon Oct 29 1990 20:4117
    There's a public strategy and it's discussed in the Annual Report and
    in interviews with Olsen, Smith, Osterhoff, etc.  that appear in the
    business press.
    
    There's a private strategy and it doesn't appear in a VAX Notes
    conference.  I don't know it and I don't want to know it.
    
    My summary:
    
    Digital expects slow growth and low profits from operations due to the
    US and world economic environment.
    
    Digital continues to invest in new technologies and products because
    bad times don't last forever.
    
    Digital acknowledges that it has to improve profitability and that part
    of that includes reducing the employee population.
1249.3ULYSSE::WADETue Oct 30 1990 10:0111
>>>>	Ref.0 
>>>>
>>>>    I'm looking for the latest, financial goals of Digital for FY90 &
>>>>    FY91. 

	Call the office of Jim Osterhoff (VP Finance).  

	But be prepared with a real good explanation
	of why you want to know.  BTW, why?

	Jim
1249.4This is easyGUIDUK::B_WOODHaving a wonderfull Alaska SummerThu Nov 01 1990 00:465
    I would expect that the following are the corporate goals:
    
    1)  Make a profit!
    
    
1249.5SDSVAX::SWEENEYPatrick Sweeney in New YorkThu Nov 01 1990 11:448
    This comes up so often...
    
    The core goal of any company is to attract and retain customers.
    
    Products, profit, employees are a consequence of doing this.
    
    If profit was the only motivator, then the shareholders would invest in
    risk-free default-proof securities that have a one year yield of 7.66.
1249.6profit *is* the only motive :-)SA1794::CHARBONNDbut it was a _clean_ missFri Nov 02 1990 09:422
    umm, re .5 I've got twice as much invested in a money-market fund
    as I do in DEC stock
1249.7more profit if that is not the goalTOOK::CBRADLEYChuck BradleyFri Nov 02 1990 21:0115
those who have profit as a goal, do not do as well as those who do
not have profit as a goal.  this surprising result has been confirmed 
by a survey of chief executives.  the results were published, i think
in harvard business review, in the mid 50s.  i believe the experiment has
been repeated at least twice, with similar results, but i do not
recall where the later results were published.

the effective goals were phrases such as "to make the best widgets"
or "to have people prefer our milk/airline/clothing/car/etc".

i do not recall if the article tried to give a reason for the difference.
one possibility is that profit calculations for now treat investments
in the future as costs/expenses now.  short sighted.

1249.8REGENT::POWERSMon Nov 05 1990 11:5618
>              <<< Note 1249.7 by TOOK::CBRADLEY "Chuck Bradley" >>>

> those who have profit as a goal, do not do as well as those who do
> not have profit as a goal......
> ...
> the effective goals were phrases such as "to make the best widgets"
> or "to have people prefer our milk/airline/clothing/car/etc".

It's naive to think that these longer term, no-mention-of-profit goals
are more altruistic than profit-motivated.
In simple fact, keeping your business a going concern is the best way
to ensure long term profitability.  One keeps one's business a going
concern by serving customers and keeping them satisfied.
Quality ("making the best..." or "people prefer our...") is one known,
relaiable road to such success, but it is not without its costs in short
term profitability.

- tom]
1249.9A European ViewHERON::PERLATony PerlaMon Nov 05 1990 13:1517
Some years ago European HQ put together a Mission Statement which was to be
dessiminated throughout all Area organizations and subsidiaries.

The first of some fourteen or fifteen objectives was (and I paraphrase):
"To provide quality information systems..." When some questioned why profits 
were not the first objective, the very simple explanation was put that profits
were the  derivative of the first objective.

In fact, nowhere in the numerous objectives is profit explicitly stated as an
objective - the underlying thought being, I believe, that if the other 
objectives are achieved, then profits will derive as a natural consequence.

Where they being naive?  Well, Digital Europe has been, for some time now,
 one of the most profitable of the Areas.

Let's not make a fixation of the word "profit" in and of itself - it is the 
effect, not the cause of proper business managment.
1249.10SDSVAX::SWEENEYPatrick Sweeney in New YorkMon Nov 05 1990 21:147
    Where is there official financial data that discloses the profitability
    of the subsidiaries?
    
    I am, of course, familiar with the annecdotes to the effect that the
    United States is the least profitable area of Digital, but asking
    again, if this information has been released internally without
    distribution controls.
1249.11HERON::PERLATony PerlaTue Nov 06 1990 08:395
European Subsidiary "Contribution Margins" (since individual subsidiaries do
not report "profit" except for local tax purposes) are rolled up into FANDA
(Financial ANalysis DAta, or somesort). This data, located within the European 
Finance Department, is company confidential and, to my knowledge, 
not for public consumption.
1249.12When did DEC turn into a bank?TOHOKU::TAYLORFri Nov 09 1990 20:578
    re: .7 those who have profit as a goal, do not do as well as those who  do 
           not have profit as a goal.  this surprising result has been confirmed
           by a survey of chief executives.  the results were published, i think
           in harvard business review, in the mid 50s. 
    
    Any chance of a better reference? 
    DEC did seem to do better when the goal had something to do with
    computers rather a goal of ROI/ROE = X