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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
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1133.0. "Mike Hammer, Detective" by ODIXIE::CARNELL (DTN 385-2901 David Carnell @ALF) Tue Jun 19 1990 13:12

                                   Welcome
                     to the Mike Hammer, Detective Topic

    Just as Sherlock Holmes had his Baker Street Irregulars who helped 
    ferret out information that helped Sherlock discover clues that 
    would nail the bad guys, so too should DECland have its Mike 
    Hammer "Irregulars" who contribute investigative reports "based on 
    true incidents" that help in unmasking bureaucracy and 
    dysfunctional management practices that do nothing to lead 
    employees (individual contributors and managers alike) in 
    achieving -- through constructive, continuous improving change, 
    everywhere -- a better and more successful Digital.

    As the business guru, Tom Peters, advocates, you must speak up 
    about questionable practices that nuture bureaucracy and 
    dysfunctional behavior and the best way to eradicate it from an 
    organization is to make it PUBLIC.

    This topic will serve as the depository of those investigative 
    reports by the Mike Hammer's amongst us, who will tell us, IN MIKE 
    HAMMER STORY FORMAT (see first two reports), WITH ALL NAMES 
    CHANGED TO CARTOON NAMES TO PROTECT IDENTITIES, of those TRUE 
    incidents of questionable practice that may be impeding greater 
    total employee involvement and commitment to building a better and 
    more successful Digital, greater than what is.

    So put on your gumshoes, you guys and gals that would be a Mike 
    Hammer irregular -- or put gum on your shoe, as the case may be -- 
    and publish your reports (short-winded and long-winded alike).  
    For those Mike Hammer's DEEP UNDERCOVER, have your reports 
    published anonymously by a fellow noter, or send them to a 
    moderator, or me, to post on your behalf, asking to keep your 
    "undercover" identity safe.

    "Hammer's the name.  Mike Hammer.  Private detective."
    
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1133.1The Invisible Man ReportODIXIE::CARNELLDTN 385-2901 David Carnell @ALFTue Jun 19 1990 13:13214
    
    The names of the participants in the following story have been 
    changed to those of cartoon characters to protect their 
    identities.  This report filed on behalf of another employee, who
    wishes to remain undercover.

                  MIKE HAMMER AND THE INVISIBLE MAN

    	 I had just spilled some coffee from the morning's third cup 
    all over a table in the core 4 smoking room.  The murky brown 
    liquid flowed like a giant amoeba, its shape ever changing, as it 
    closed in on my notebook.  I was able to save the notebook but in 
    the process a business card had fallen from my shirt pocket into 
    the pool of coffee.

    	 "Mike Hammer. Private Detective." the card read, or at least 
    it used to.  Now it was nothing more than a soggy blob of 
    cardboard.

    	 As I threw the crumpled wet business card into the nearest 
    trash can, something caught my eye.  "Not doing enough at the 
    analyst level.  Invisible again."  It was nothing more than a 
    discarded yellow post-it note but something about it intrigued me.

    	 "Who is this Invisible Man?" I thought to myself.  I had to 
    know more.

    	 I didn't have many clues to work from but by putting my 
    superior investigative skills to use I was soon hot on the trail 
    of a prime suspect. His name was Roger Rabbit and he was 
    definitely up to something.

    	 At first I kept a distance, being careful not to arouse 
    suspicion, and waiting for the suspect to make himself invisible.  
    Weeks went by.  He was hard at work past six o'clock most nights 
    and even past seven o'clock on several occasions.

    	 "For someone 'not doing enough at the analyst level' this 
    person was exceptionally busy" I reasoned.  "Perhaps he was making 
    sculptures out of paper clips or rubber balls out of elastic bands 
    during all this time."

    	 I decided to throw caution to the wind and move in on my 
    suspect. Maybe there was more to the case then just the 
    invisibility issue.  I intently studied every move that Roger 
    Rabbit made from then on in.

    	 Most of his time seemed to be tied up working on a project 
    called 'Stocking Strategy'.  During the month of March, I observed 
    the suspect working on the following aspects of the project.

	 o  Did an analysis to determine if Stockroom 11 could handle 
            non-AD/CU activity, based on the previously established 
            Internal Rate of Return.

	 o  Did a set-up analysis to determine if Stockroom 11 could 
            handle non-AD/CU kit activity in a Build To Exact Demand 
            environment.

	 o  Did an analysis concerning the storing of material within 
            the stockroom by product family, which subsequently was 
            not recommended.

	 o  Developed a test plan to systemically check the data 
            integrity and plan the implementation of Phase I of the 
            Stocking Strategy.

	 o  Wrote the level 2 documentation for Phase I of the 
            Stocking Strategy.

	 o  Participated in a sub-team which devised the Phase I user 
            spec as well as on another sub-team which looked at how 
            orders would be printed, so as to ensure that all bin 
            information was correct.

	 o  Wrote the complex FEX (37 blocks) which will be used to 
            generate replenishment pull signals during Phase II of the 
            project.

    	 Still, I had yet to see the suspect become invisible.  
    Besides the Stocking Strategy project, he appeared to be doing a 
    lot of work writing FEXes; some for himself, some for his own 
    group and projects he was working on, and others for outside 
    groups such as Media Manufacturing and Incoming Inspection.

    	 A few of the FEXes that I recall off the top of my head are 
    the;

	 o  Capital equipment cycle count FEX (for Garfield the cat).
	 o  Simulation for projected new bin additions off of the 
            current Demand Pull FEX (for Betty Boop).
         o  FEX for pieces delivered by Stockroom WMO to Distribution, 
            Kit Assembly, Window Service, etc. (for Leonardo - the 
            ninja turtle).
	 o  Month to date inventory adjustments by stockroom (for 
            Inventory Control.)
         o  Media Manufacturing set up analysis (for Fred Flintstone).

    	 There were, however, a couple of times during the month when 
    I thought that I had the suspect nailed.  He gave a presentation 
    to Tom & Jerry's Order Filling staff as well as assisting Fred 
    Flintstone in presentations to Bugs Bunny's staff and the Class A 
    Operations meeting.  They were the perfect opportunity for him to 
    pull his invisible act, yet nothing happened.

    	 Disillusioned at spending an entire month on the case with no 
    results, I decided to confront the suspect directly.  He was 
    coming out from a CD-ROM sub team meeting where they had just 
    defined the Dock-to-point-of-use process when I cornered him.

    	 "The name's Hammer.  Mike Hammer." I said, flashing my 
    detective's badge.  I explained how I had been following him all 
    month, waiting for him to turn invisible.  This had become more 
    than a case.  It was now an obsession.

    	 "You mean that you were around when I was at Roadrunner's 
    pilot team for putting different part numbers on the same P.O. and 
    when I was updating the cycle count process documentation and 
    assisting in the group audit of our cycle count processes?" he 
    queried bewilderedly.

    	 "Yes, I was there then and all the other times in between as 
    well." I answered.  "I wanted to see you become invisible."

    	 "I can't become invisible." he shot back, his eyes piercing 
    through me as if I were an alien life form from the planet 
    Beldorf.  "Where'd you get that idea?"

    	 I told him the whole story; from the spilled coffee and the 
    post-it note in the trash can ... all the way up until the 
    present.

    	 The rabbit was cooperative and the pieces quickly started to 
    fall into place.  It all began when Kit Assembly supervisor, Olive 
    Oyl, made a request for help in order to make customer shipments.  
    Roger Rabbit had volunteered to work on the line for a day.

    	 "Why did you do that?" I asked him, returning the Beldorfian 
    stare he had given me moments earlier.

    	 "I was just trying to be a leader." Roger Rabbit shrugged.  
    "There's been a lot of talk about satisfying the customer.  
    Rhetoric is easy but actions speak louder than words.  I was 
    trying to be a "doer".

    	 Inquisitively, I asked him what happened.

    	 "Well, I had an open calendar for one particular day and I 
    made a commitment to Olive that I would give her 100% of my time 
    for that day.  I wasn't really looking forward to it but I felt it 
    was the right thing to do. The right thing to do isn't always the 
    easy thing to do."  Roger retorted. He went on to expound about 
    "values" within the Manufacturing Big Picture. It wasn't a lengthy 
    philosophical sermon.  It was one sentence; quick and to the 
    point.

    	 "Honesty: We always do what's right."

    	 "What happened next?" I inquired.

    	 "Well, at the eleventh hour someone scheduled a meeting 
    during the day which I had committed to Olive, so I sent a reply 
    that I wouldn't be able to attend.  The next thing I knew, 
    management was asking me not to work in Kit Assembly.  It was 
    after that when I found out about the statements questioning the 
    amount of work I had done at the analyst level and my alleged 
    translucent nature."

    	 "Didn't that bother you?" I pushed on, sensing a certain 
    level of frustration.

    	 Roger quizzically looked off into space before responding.  
    "At first it did but I suppose I have to consider the source.  
    I've realized I just have to keep trying to do the right thing.  
    Right now, I'm just trying to do my best and lead by building 
    other people's capabilities, inspiring others to 'go beyond the 
    nine dots' in reaching a solution, and leading by example while 
    giving 100%."

    	 I wondered what he had meant by "consider the source", so I 
    did some more leg work.  The response I received from the entire 
    group was practically unanimous when I inquired about the source.  
    "Oh Goofy?  He's totally out of touch with the Inventory Control 
    group" was the most common response.

    	 So much for The Invisible Man.

    	 I couldn't believe I had made such a rookie mistake.  That's 
    the last time Mike Hammer goes on a wild goose chase without first 
    considering the source.

    	 As I was about to head back to the office to start on another 
    case I saw Roger Rabbit talking to his better half, Jessica, in 
    the parking lot.

    	 I quickened the pace of my walk in the hopes of asking Roger 
    just one more question before I left.  "How do you keep motivated 
    amongst all this chaos?" I asked nonchalantly, trying not to 
    interrupt his conversation.

    	 His reply was quick and to the point.  "There's a credo that 
    I follow.  It isn't an easy one but I believe in it.  It's from 
    George Bernard Shaw and goes something like this ...

    	 The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;  the 
    unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.  
    Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man."

    	 As I headed over towards my car, thinking about Roger Rabbit, 
    another saying came to mind.

    	 You can always tell the pioneers.  They're the ones lying 
    face down ahead of you with an arrow in their back.
    
1133.2Big Cheese from Big Town ReportODIXIE::CARNELLDTN 385-2901 David Carnell @ALFTue Jun 19 1990 13:15215
     The names have been changed to cartoon names to protect the 
     identities.

              MIKE HAMMER and A Big Cheese from Big Town

     The local boss, Rocket Squirrel, had called a meeting of his 
     "boys" -- there was a dame there too, Olive Oil.  The purpose of 
     the meet: The boss wanted some of the "boys" to tell the rest of 
     us goons all what was happening, especially about new territories 
     being developed, new goods to be marketed.

     I was there too.  Hammer's the name.  Mike Hammer.  Private 
     Detective.  Corrector of wrongs, justice for all.  You get the 
     drift.

     The morning was quiet.  Too quiet, maybe, looking back.  I 
     couldn't help but feel that the pastries served at the meet were 
     somehow to fatten us up -- for something.  The coffee was strong, 
     as usual.  I put a cup away and two pastries -- I believe in 
     being a well-rounded detective -- helps career prospects.

     The morning proceeded with typical presentations.  Lunch came and 
     went.  Uneventful.  The afternoon session continued.

     Then, it was 2:00 p.m.  Bullwinkle Moose was now to give his 
     presentation.  Bullwinkle was one of those softspoken types, 
     never known to raise his voice, never known to lose his temper, 
     and never known to kill a fly.  He was new to the gang and some 
     of the boys weren't sure he was tough enough for working in 
     DECtown.

     How tough he was, we were about to find out.

     At 2:05, the door burst open!

     It was a Big Cheese from Big Town!  Batman!  A heavyweight 
     lieutenant boss, high in the organization.  He walked in with his 
     entourage of guns.  "Hiya, boys.  Don't mind if I sit in, do ya?"  
     He was all smiles.  Many of us familiar with Batman had looked to 
     him as a hero of the grunts in the trenches.

     Nobody said nuttin'.  It seems that Batman, being in town, had 
     been invited by Rocky to sit in on Rocky's sit-down with his 
     local people.

     Bullwinkle said welcome.  He began his presentation.

     We shoulda knowed right away there was going to be trouble.  
     The moose was NOT usin' official DEC 3M overheads with bullets!  
     He was trying to "chalk talk" his way through the intracacies of 
     his presentation without overhead bullets!  Some of us gasped.

     The moose decided to elaborate first on the problems of his 
     project in order to tell us where we've been, where we were at, 
     and then the work yet to be done to make the project successful.

     2:10 p.m.  Only a couple of minutes had passed.

     Suddenly, Big Cheese Batman leaned forward, his hand dippin' 
     inside his jacket.

     ""Goddamn it!  I don't have to listen to this bull%$#&!  Get to 
     what's goin' on to develop the territory!" he snarled loudly.  He 
     was yellin' so loudly that we was to find out later that many 
     outside the closed room for the meet had heard Batman.

     Bullwinkle looked at Batman squarely and said that he needed to 
     first let us know about the problem first so's we could 
     understand the problems in working the project.  The moose 
     continued, talking and drawing. Yup, shoulda used proper 3M 
     overheads, I thought.

     Suddenly, Big Cheese Batman swung his hand out -- it was a tommy 
     gun!  We were all helpless, have checked our gats at the door.  
     The bullets began pumping, all directed at Bullwinkle.  The 
     Valentine day's massacre came to mind.  We was helpless.

     "Goddamn it!" shouted Big Cheese Batman.  "I don't have to listen 
     to this f******* bull****.  This is bull****.  Get outta here and 
     don't come back."  A few more "f" bullets went zinging into the 
     moose.  

     Bullwinkle, apparently dazed, tried to calm Batman down, trying 
     to go on with his presentation!  "But, Batman, if you'll just let 
     me continue, I'll explain..."

     Batman let loose another volley of lead.  "Goddamn it.  Enough of 
     this f****** ...  Get out of here... and don't come back 
     until..."

     "But, Batman..."

     This went back and forth what minutes.  Seemed like days at the 
     time.  I checked.  Yup.  More gray hair.

     By now, everyone in the room was cringing, trying to sink into 
     their chairs to avoid the flying lead.  We shoulda run for it -- 
     but we'ze was petrified by the gunfire.

     Ping!  A stray hit one of Batman's own boys.  No one was safe!

     I looked to Rocky to see if he was gonna back his boy, 
     Bullwinkle.

     No rod appeared.  He was hidin'like the rest of us -- no one was 
     gonna do nuttin' to protect the moose.  The moose's goose was 
     cooked.

     Then, Bullwinkle reached into his pocket.  Did the moose sneak a 
     piece into the meet? I though increduously.  He did!  It was his 
     ol' slingshot, the only armament he carried since he was a kid.  
     He put a strawberry in it and launched.  "But, Batman, you ARE a 
     guest to our meet and I would just like to make my presen--"

     You could hear a pin drop, 'cept then it was actually a score of 
     bellies smackin' the floor, chairs flung back.  Cringing under 
     our chairs wasn't going to be enough -- and now it was too late 
     to exit gracefully through the only door, all of us saying in 
     unison, "'Scuse please, gotta go to the john."

     RAATTTAATTTTTTT!!!!!!!!

     We looked up at the moose.

     Bullwinkle, full of holes, up one side and down the other, was 
     still standing!  Incredible!  "But, Batman, if--" the moose 
     began, once again.  He looked to the rest of team for support -- 
     none had the "ethics" to do anything.

     Batman looked at his tommy, wonderin' if he was shootin' blanks.  
     Nope, he and we could all see the daylight streamin' through 
     Bullwinkle Moose; yet, - YET! - he was still standin', waitin' to 
     continue his presentation.  Talk about tough!

     And Bullwinkle, still talking calmly, still wanting to do his 
     part, like any good employee who had a presentation to make, and 
     wondering why after but a minute or two into his talk, without 
     justification, in public, in a mixed group, he was being gunned 
     down ruthlessly, in a such a demeaning manner, by what many 
     considered was a hero, Big Cheese Batman from Big Town.

     Frustrated with the moose seemingly not affected by his gunfire, 
     Batman, without a word, stood, and with most his entourage, left 
     the meeting room.

     Bullwinkle went ahead, and in fifteen minutes, finished his 
     presentation.  "Questions?" he asked.

     Batman returned.  He looked at the moose.  In a cold, deadly 
     voice, he uttered, "The next time I tell you to stop and get out, 
     you'd better damn well do it."  We couldn't be sure, but some 
     thought he had a pineapple palmed, ready to pull the pin and blow 
     the moose into stew.  What a motivator!  What a leader!

     At that point, Batman got up and took over the meet.  For the 
     next two hours, or was it three days, we was then forced to 
     listen to Batman tell us what great boys (and dame) we was, and 
     how we was the mob's greatest, most important asset.
     
     Funny, later that day, and even months later, all we remember was 
     how Bullwinkle got peppered full of holes, seemingly for simply 
     not using official 3M overheads.  I decided to put on my 
     investigator cap and grilled the other boys, and dame, present 
     during the massacre to see if I had missed something.

     I discovered that no one cared much anymore for Batman and his 
     style of leadership.  And it didn't take long to find the REAL 
     truth of why Batman dumped on Bullwinkle.

     One of the boys in the meet happened to walk by Batman just after 
     he walked in and sat down, and had spotted Batman's paper with 
     his notes regarding the meet.  On the paper was several lines of 
     stuff (no doubt correctly bulleted in 3M overhead style).  One 
     line stood out, like a bright neon light on a black night with no 
     moon, with a shapely... anyway, the line said,

     SHOW THEM WHO IS BOSS

     The moose had been set up!  An innocent victim at the wrong place 
     at the wrong time, gunned down JUST to show local boss Rocky 
     Squirrel and "his boys" who was the top dog in that organization!

     The morale of the story:  You can do everything right, do your 
     best, be a real team player, and have a kind word for everyone; 
     yet, you can still get selected at random to be a victim by those 
     who motivate through fear and intimidation, needing to 
     demonstrate who has the power, who is the boss, working under the 
     belief that by abusing power using FEAR, everyone will be MORE 
     motivated by FEAR to work harder to make said big boss even more 
     successful.

     I shook my head, trying to push off the chill.  I wondered when 
     we would learn from history.  The Romans used the motivating 
     fear technique called "decimate"  -- when you need to motivate 
     your troops, you lined them up, picked one at random, and counted 
     off by ten's, selecting every tenth to be summarily executed. 
     Where's the Roman empire and its dead lanquage today?   Others 
     have also tried whips and slavery and execution to drive fear 
     into the hearts of workers (see history of Stalinism in Russia 
     where 25 million were liquidated to motivate the rest of the 
     workers - didn't make for much economic success there either, did 
     it).

     Beating up your own people, instead of the competition, 
     inherently and intuitively makes NO sense.

     You win by ALWAYS treating your people, and your co-workers, with 
     respect and ethics, all working TOGETHER, based on mutual goals 
     and values.  Not by fear via someone on an ego trip to "show 'em 
     who's da boss."

     This ends this detective's report.  I'm going home.  Maybe I'll 
     spot my favorite Dairy Queen watering hole and get a double 
     float.
    
1133.3The idea of exposing problems may be sound; the format is badCOVERT::COVERTJohn R. CovertTue Jun 19 1990 13:3514
David,

Again, I am not impressed.

This looks like an excuse to

	- be long winded
	- use hyperbole
	- confuse facts and fiction
	- use sexist language (there was a dame there, too)

and otherwise waste time.

/john
1133.4Point of orderWORDY::JONGSteve Jong/T and N PubsTue Jun 19 1990 16:2511
    A point of order, Mike.
    
    I enjoyed reading the purple prose, and I suspect there are real people
    hiding behind Toontown names whose incompetence we could root out.  But
    if the point of the note is to root out incompetence, at some point
    mustn't you name names?  If not, it's just a series of cautionary
    tales, not much more than entertainment.
    
    The problem is, if you name names, you will win a free quiverful of
    arrows faster than you can say "thwip thwip thwip thwip" (which is
    about the sound they'll make as they're being delivered to you).
1133.5Spare me, Dave. Please.16BITS::DELBALSOI (spade) my (dog face)Tue Jun 19 1990 16:368
I'm sorry, Dave, but I must agree with John to a large extent. I don't spend
my time in this conference so I can read 200+ line notes from someone who should
have entered their creative prose in one of the writing conferences. If you've
got some points to make about things you see wrong at DEC, please just make the
points succinctly (sans names) but without the added fluff.

-Jack

1133.6Good stuff as Johnny would say...XCELL::WOODDon't have a COW dadTue Jun 19 1990 16:408
    
    
        I thought the writing was great.
             Very interesting.
                  Nice use of fictional characters.
                         
    
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1133.7cute butCLYPPR::NEEDLEMANyesterdays technology tomorrowTue Jun 19 1990 16:494
    I enjoyed it, but I agree. Brevity for the future.
    
    Barry 
    (who owned all the Mike Hammer books at one time or another)
1133.8FDCV07::HSCOTTLynn Hanley-ScottTue Jun 19 1990 17:188
    If the topic is management incompetence (and I didn't read 0-3 because
    they're too lengthy), I recommend the notes be moved to the topic
    already in progress re management incompetence.
    
    I also agree that these belong more appropriately in an employee
    interest conference on creative writing, detective writing, or
    something similar.
    
1133.9Lighten Up!ODIXIE::HARRISKETriathleteTue Jun 19 1990 18:056
    David,
    
    I agree John with as well.  Give it a REST!!!
    
    Ken
    
1133.10Try Again!ODIXIE::HARRISKETriathleteTue Jun 19 1990 18:074
    I guess my fingers got ahead of me there.
    
    I agree with John.
    
1133.11Medio tutissimus ibisASABET::COHENTue Jun 19 1990 18:2448
    In re: .0, .1, .2	
    
    
        Boring.  Inane.  Worthless.  Waste of disk space.
    
    	If there's a point to be made _make it_ and make it quickly
    	and intelligently.
    
    	Digital is part of the real world.  That means that it's not
    	perfect.  Things that are less than wonderful occur.  Not
    	every little thing is the way we would like it to be.
    
    	We try to make things better when possible.
    
    	However, . . .
    
    	to continue to obsess, complain, and harangue serves no useful
    	purpose unless ego massage is the goal.  There also is no
    	credibility in proposing tenuous theses supported by spurious
    	arguments.
    
    	I know nothing of the personalities of contributors aside from
      	how they write.  I haven't read all the notes, but judging from
    	this one and 1125 and 1115 there seems to be a great deal of
    	unhappiness, disatisfaction, and anger about the company by the
    	initial poster.  
    
    	If I were to feel that negatively about the company, my work, and
    	the people around me, both management and others, I'd quit.  Why
    	make yourself miserable?
    
    	But wait!  The company's all right, it's just people are stupid,
    	and cruel, and they say bad things, and they pick on me. (Well,
    	they say they're talking about my ideas, but I know it's really
    	about me personally.)  Why don't they see that I'm right?  I
    	really can save this place. . . . Maybe you should talk with 
    	EAP.
    
    	You don't want to look for a new job?
    
    	You feel that you're emotionally stable?
    
    	Then how about refraining from posting 100+ line notes during
    	business hours and turning your attention to the work Digital
    	pays you for?  (Or do your standards of perfection apply to
    	everyone but you?)
    
    
1133.12can we lay off David's presentation style?CVG::THOMPSONAut vincere aut moriTue Jun 19 1990 18:427
	If people are so upset about the length or style of Notes I guess
	they have a right to complain but really why make the rest of us
	have to read it? Send mail and leave this topic to either reporting
	cases of "bad things happening" or comments on cases reported here.
	Enough "me too" notes already.

			Alfred
1133.13in other words, be Mike Hammer if you want but be yourself if you preferCVG::THOMPSONAut vincere aut moriTue Jun 19 1990 19:0219
	It appears that this topic has gone off in the direction of
	style rather that substance. (All though there seems to be
	some discussion of there being any substance I suspect that
	that is a case of the style hiding the substance.) For
	myself I think there is probably some valid points that
	can be made from the examples in .1 and .2. I think there
	is some undue emphasis on presentation style though.

	I doubt anyone would mind all that much if someone reported
	incidents in other then "Mike Hammer" style. In fact simple
	straight forward prose would probably be welcomed by most
	readers. Let's not lose sight of the idea that this conference
	is for (among other things sometimes) communication. Let's
	everyone use the styles that works for them and keep the
	"process" discussion separate from issue discussion.

			Alfred

	
1133.14I defend the right to enter notes!WORDY::JONGSteve Jong/T and N PubsTue Jun 19 1990 20:5413
    I must say I think this is disgraceful.
    
    The author of .0 is a Digital employee.  His style is different from
    most others'.  Can you not find the value in what he is saying?
    
    If I decide a note is too long for me to read I shall pass it by.  I
    might even send mail privately to the author, suggesting a more
    succinct presentation style.  But I shall not attack the author's note
    or the author personally.
    
    (If someone writes in a 5,000-line document or a PostScript file, my
    batch extractor will run wild.  Then I will object 8^)  But matters of
    different style should not be so treated.)
1133.15Mike suggests murderATLACT::GIBSON_DTue Jun 19 1990 22:246
    I'd like to nominate .11 by ASABET::COHEN for the rude note award of
    the day.  In good taste, please don't define .0's motives or attitude
    for him.  Ask him if you think it's important or send him mail.  Kindly
    hit next unseen next time before truely wasting disk space.
    
    I suggest the moderators "moider dem notes .3 to .last"
1133.16HEYYOU::ZARLENGAall this and brains tooWed Jun 20 1990 02:147
    
re .3

    	If there's one thing I've learned over the years, it's that John
    Covert has a nasty habit of being right.

-mike z
1133.17A shorter form - not as entertaining!RDGENG::MCNAUGHTONJumping to solutionsThu Jun 21 1990 09:5435
    I like the use of the stories because they are specific and 
    easy to visualize.  They are long but clearly show problems
    we experience.
    
    Understanding the problems and their causes is very important. Its
    usually not easy, takes more time than people think, and difficult not
    to propose an immediate solution.

    How about this as an alternative way to capture the information needed
    to understand the problem ... a bit shorter?  Here is an example
    of 1133.2.  

    Bruce
    
    
     What do we                 People treated with respect.                  
     want to happen?            Issues are discussed and good                 
                                decisions made.                               
                                                                              
     What actually              People publically berate or                   
     happens?                   attack people without listening,              
                                or fail to discuss the issue.                 
                                                                              
     Suspected cause            People wanting to stroke their egos?          
     of difference?             or show their power,                          
                                or get their solution to the problems.        
                                                                              
     How often does             at least once per meeting?????                
     this happen?                                                             

     What is the impact?        People will not be open and honest            
                                Increased turnover of staff                   
                                Demotivation of staff                         
                                Missed ideas                                  
    
1133.18Ignore the a**holes, get to workDUGGAN::GREENWed Aug 01 1990 17:1830


	Another hammered report.


	Wed. 12:30  finished lunch. Checked out the Digital notesfile,.
	First time in over three months. Did DIR on most recent
	notes entered. Couldn't imagine what "Mike Hammer" topic 
	could possibly be. Read all replies. Was shocked. What
	is going on here? Does base note author want Digital people
	to start entering replies telling horror stories about 
	fellow employees? What good is served? Everyone knows 
	someone who is counter-productive. Everyone knows
	someone who is an a**hole. Company with 100,000 people 
	can't possibly be filled only with wonderful caring
	considerate people. So what? Some a**holes actually make
	a lot of things happen. Some don't. How does this note
	make anything happen that's good for the company? 

	Put gumshoes on desk. Wrote acerbic reply in the style of
	detective story. Wondered if anyone would attack reply.
	Wondered if I should care. Decided I didn't. Won't
	be back for months anyways. Have work to do.