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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
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1084.0. "Digital's profit margins " by HPSCAD::CCHEN () Wed Apr 18 1990 21:40

    
    
    	Does anybody know Digital's profit margins on large, mid-range,
    and microcomputer systems in GIA, US, and Europe??  An approximation
    or an industry average will be good enough since these ratios are
    not supposed to be public information.  What I am trying to do is the
    following:
    
    	1. analyze the competitive positions of Digital's products under
           the categories of large, mid-range, and micro systems in each
           geographical area.
    
    	2. forecast next two years' revenue from Digital's competitive
           positions and the worldwide market dollar value (forecasted
           by InfoCorp).
    
    	3. calculate next two years' net income from the revenue and profit
           margins.
    
    	4. roll up all the net income figures, and forecast Digital's stock
           price of the next two years.
    
    This is for a school paper.  I have no idea on these profit margins,
    and I don't know where to look for them either.  Any help will be
    appreciated.  Thanks
    
    Charlotte
    
    
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1084.1SECRETSDSVAX::SWEENEYPatrick Sweeney in New YorkThu Apr 19 1990 12:1012
    profit margin = (price - cost) / price
    
    Of course, on a corporate basis, such figures which aggregate 
    total sales and total cost of sales are published to the public.
    
    Of course, on a product by product basis, or class by class basis,
    Digital's traditional practice has been to consider cost data, units
    sold, and so forth, as very, very, strongly kept secrets.
    
    Even the fact that cost data and units sold are secret data is a
    secret, although I am permitted to divulge this to other Digital
    employees.
1084.2But, then againCSG001::MAKSINJoe Maksin 291-0378 PDM1-2/H4Fri Apr 20 1990 10:3619
    Of course,
    
          NOR = MLP-(Discounts+Allowance)+(Uplift+Service Income)
                                                           
    and Gross Profit Margin is given at % NOR.
    
    But, then with all "product costs" at % MLP (i.e., above the line), and
    all "operating expenses" at % NOR (i.e., below the line), the equation
    given in note .-1, might seem a bit simplistic.  [Caveat: Service
    Income and Service Expense might not in MLP terms.].
    
    MLP = Maynard List Price (artifact of accounting system)
    NOR = Net Operating Revenue
    
    Then again, as we move to Variable Margins and Value-Based Pricing,
    ..., but that's another story.

    
    jOe
1084.3Digital's was 1.2%SDSVAX::SWEENEYPatrick Sweeney in New YorkFri Apr 20 1990 12:1216
    re: .2, re: .1, profit margin = (price - cost) / price
    
    or from the income statement 
    	profit margin = net income / sales
    
    for the quarter ending March 31, Digital's was 1.2% compared to a year
    ago, 13%.
    
    price and cost are not "simplistic" they are accurate.  It is the text
    book definition of profit margin, which is incidentally also called
    return on sales.
    
    The equation in .2 includes "net", "gross", "revenue", and "income". 
    It's not clear to me, indeed, I wonder if it's clear to anyone what's
    being measured in .2.