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Conference 7.286::digital

Title:The Digital way of working
Moderator:QUARK::LIONELON
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Jun 06 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:5321
Total number of notes:139771

587.0. "Lifespan of an LNO3 Document?" by USMRM3::JHUTCHINS () Wed Aug 03 1988 19:02

    I have an unusual question which I hope someone can answer,
    or point me in the right direction.
    
    A friend is coordinating material for a time capsule and would
    like to include a list of the contributors to the project (it
    was a restoration effort).
    
    The question at hand is, what is the average life-span of a
    document printed on an LNO3?  Documents printed with carbon
    ribbons tend to fade quickly; is that also the case with the
    LNO3?  If the document was laminated, would it be preserved?
    
    Is there another notesfile which might provide an answer?
    
    Thanks for your info,
    Judi
    
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587.1LINCON::WOODBURYAtlanta Networks/VMS SupportWed Aug 03 1988 19:4711
Re .0:

	I may be completely off base on this, but from what little I know of
the problem, it comes in two parts.  The more important part is the quality of
the paper used.  Some kinds of paper do not last very long at all while others
are specifically designed to last a long time.  The second part of the problem
is the quality of the 'ink'.  I have even less information on that, but have 
heard that the 'ink' should be matched to the paper and visa versa.

	I suggest that you check with your nearest university library about the
paper.  I can not help at all with the 'ink' part.
587.2Other places to askCVG::THOMPSONAccept no substitutesWed Aug 03 1988 20:0012
>        Is there another notesfile which might provide an answer?

    A quick look at ANCHOR::NET$LIBRARY:EASYNOTES.LIS (the list of
    notes conferences) shows several likely conferences for this 
    question.

LN03				REGENT::LN03				  125
Ask the EasyNet			ANYWAY::ASKENET				 1540

		Try them out.
    
    				Alfred
587.3BINKLY::WINSTONJeff Winston (Hudson, MA)Wed Aug 03 1988 21:301
They way I'm told, the LN03 process is quite similar to xerography
587.4Worry about paperCLT::NETHCraig NethThu Aug 04 1988 16:5010
    It is xerography (only that's a trademark).  The black `ink' is really
    a plastic (ground up into really small bits).  The printing process
    melts the plastic into the paper.  That's why the paper comes out warm
    to touch.  If you get toner on your clothes, and wash them in warm
    water - they're ruined.  I've got some pants where the toner is
    still just as black as the day they got that way - many washings
    later!  My guess is that the paper quality is what you
    should worry about.
    
    Craig (ex XEROX employee) 
587.5pointerVIDEO::LASKOTakes no default valueThu Aug 04 1988 17:103
    Note 780 in REGENT::LN03 discusses this in some detail - the spec's
    and consensus seems to be that the lifetime is about 5 years with
    normal handling and good paper.  Refer to that note for details.
587.6Not appropriate to this conferenceDR::BLINNLife's too short for boring foodThu Aug 04 1988 21:4213
        This was cross-posted in ASKENET, without any indication that
        it had been posted in other conferences as well.  It really
        isn't an appropriate question for this conference; I certainly
        hope is was not posted here as part of an "I'll post this in
        every conference I usually read without any concern for whether
        it's appropriate to the conference."
        
        The cross-reference to a specific note in REGENT::LN03 is much
        appreciated.  If there's a need to continue the discussion,
        please do it there (KP7 or SELECT will add that conference
        to your notebook).
        
        Tom
587.7REGENT::POWERSMon Aug 08 1988 14:2110
> < Note 587.4 by CLT::NETH "Craig Neth" >

>    It is xerography (only that's a trademark).  

No, it isn't.  Xerography, xerographic, and other derivations are the 
proper use of a coined non-proprietary word.  The root xero- is from the
Greek for dry, -graph- is also from Greek for writing, hence "dry writing"
to distinguish the process from wet copying methods.

"Xerox" IS a trademark derived, in turn, from the non-proprietary root.